Re: [MBZ] 300E oil question (I almost hate to ask this!)

2008-11-03 Thread Tom Savage
Wonko the Sane wrote: Given that I have successfully used 15W-50 in my 240D, I can't see any reason why I can't run it in my 300E. The 15W-50 flows well in really cold temperatures and I can't see any downside of having -40 rather than -50. I'd run the 15W-50. Because... After driving at

Re: [MBZ] 300E oil question (I almost hate to ask this!)

2008-11-03 Thread LarryT
My experience has always been main bearing problem = low oil pressure at speed. Seems like the viscosity may be too low - It's *supposed* to go to the peg by 3000rpm = For a 300E gasser I'd run 15W50 year round - possibly 20W50 if available and it is a hot area of the country - Sincerely,

Re: [MBZ] 300E oil question (I almost hate to ask this!)

2008-11-03 Thread kaleb
Well these guages are electrical, its quite obvious to look at it that its jumping around from electrical issues. When I had it it would jump up to 3 at idle often. Quite common problem on these cars. My experience has always been main bearing problem = low oil pressure at speed. Seems like

Re: [MBZ] Interesting engine

2008-11-03 Thread Peter Frederick
We call them hit and miss engines, because the governor usually holds the exhaust valve open on the intake stroke to prevent it from generating an un-needed power stroke. At no load with the governor set low, it may only fire every four or five power strokes unless set VERY rich to make

Re: [MBZ] #22 head?

2008-11-03 Thread Rusty Cullens
I do! Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 5:23 PM Subject: [MBZ] #22 head? If anyone has a #22 head for sale

Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Vibrations

2008-11-03 Thread andrew strasfogel
Don, the good news is that flex disk replacements aren't terribly expensive. On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 11:10 PM, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Check the rear too, I've had one blow out (not fun on the interstate). A bad front flex disk will also cause thumps on downshifts (but then, so

Re: [MBZ] Indy in Columbus OH

2008-11-03 Thread Rusty Cullens
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Re: [MBZ] bcs whining some more

2008-11-03 Thread Gary Thompson
Yep, Texas came out flat in the first half and didn't look like they deserved the #1 ranking. Too many back-to-back weeks against top 10 competition probably took a toll mentally. Now Tech has to face the same gauntlet. If they can get by Oklahome and Oklahoma State, they deserve to be playing in

Re: [MBZ] 300E oil question (I almost hate to ask this!)

2008-11-03 Thread Tom Hargrave
I took two 300E's well past 300,000 miles and saw no electrical issues with either. But you are right, it's easy to tell the difference. If the jumping around is random then it's electrical. If it's not so random (pulsing at idle, drops at warm-up) then its not electrical. Thanks, Tom Hargrave

Re: [MBZ] 300E oil question (I almost hate to ask this!)

2008-11-03 Thread Gary Hurst
i hate to agree with kleb, but i think he is right here. according to the gauge, the ex wife's 300E was driving with zero oil pressue at idle for years, which then shot up to 3 bar when driving. then i changed the sender and now it is pretty normal. if you are really running the car with no oil

Re: [MBZ] bcs whining some more

2008-11-03 Thread Gary Hurst
nearly anybody over penn state. i wouldn't rate penn state as a top 10 team and maybe not even top 15 or 20. i'd take georgia tech over penn state today, let alone the real football powers. On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Yep, Texas came out flat in

Re: [MBZ] 300E oil question (I almost hate to ask this!)

2008-11-03 Thread Curt Raymond
Do you have Autozone out there? Our Autozone has all (or most anyway) of the weights of Mobil 1 including 5w40 (my current fave). If they don't have it be sure to ask and when the counter weenie gives you no satisfaction make sure you write to Autozone with your tale of displeasure. The

Re: [MBZ] #22 head?

2008-11-03 Thread Trampas
HAhahaha... I was looking for a used one that might be cheaper. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 9:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] #22 head? I do! Rusty Cullens

Re: [MBZ] bcs whining some more

2008-11-03 Thread Donald Snook
Gary T. wrote: Yep, Texas came out flat in the first half and didn't look like they deserved the #1 ranking. Too many back-to-back weeks against top 10 competition probably took a toll mentally. Now Tech has to face the same gauntlet. If they can get by Oklahome and Oklahoma State, they deserve

Re: [MBZ] #22 head?

2008-11-03 Thread Luther
I purchased my used head on Ebay for $600. Came with the camshaft, injectors, and prechambers. Luther Trampas wrote: HAhahaha... I was looking for a used one that might be cheaper. Trampas -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi)

Re: [MBZ] bcs whining some more

2008-11-03 Thread Luther
So, Penn St stays undefeated and no Big 12 or SEC school remains undefeated, who gets the shaft? Penn St deserves it, but either the Big 12 or SEC will get it Luther Donald Snook wrote: Gary T. wrote: Yep, Texas came out flat in the first half and didn't look like they deserved the #1

[MBZ] 190D Differential continuing saga

2008-11-03 Thread Curt Raymond
So car-part.com found me a diff for my 190D 2.2l 5spd in New Jersey. They want $450 shipped. Other diffs seem to run $150-$200 so I played with shipping a bit, assuming it weighs around 50# I should be able to ship it UPS for less than $100, its not a real big part, just heavy... Anybody delt

Re: [MBZ] bcs whining some more

2008-11-03 Thread Gary Hurst
my whole point is penn state does not deserve anything, but they will get it for being undefeated against very soft opposition. i can only hope for an iowa upset to bury penn state. otherwise we are in big trouble. On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, Penn St

Re: [MBZ] OT, ladybugs

2008-11-03 Thread Loren Faeth
Those are NOT ladybugs. Those are Asian Beetles. Ladybugs are orange, don't bite, and don't stink. Asian beetles are more yellow, stink, and bite. They are especially a problem with wine grapes. They also eat holes in apples and other fruit. Asian beetles were introduced by our gummit to

Re: [MBZ] W124 vibration question

2008-11-03 Thread Luther
QUOTES page please! :) Luther Wonko the Sane wrote: snip The more I drive this car, the more I have flashbacks to flying the T-34. A turbo-prop (or a jet, for that matter) has a certain lag between power control input and response. With the 240D, you lift your foot and slow down. With the

Re: [MBZ] Interesting engine

2008-11-03 Thread Loren Faeth
If you want to see hundreds of them in operation, along with hundreds of antique tractors, and dozens of steam traction engines (probably around 100) , Steam locomotives and electric trolleys in operation go to Midwest Old Threshers Reunion. http://www.oldthreshers.com/ At 04:46 PM

Re: [MBZ] 190D Differential continuing saga

2008-11-03 Thread brian . toscano
Where are located? I will be in NJ this week for work. Regards, Brian Toscano Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 08:00:08 To: Diesel Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 190D Differential

Re: [MBZ] OT - way of topic, concrete restoration

2008-11-03 Thread R A Bennell
Do you want to patch the concrete or just slow the process? If the latter, one would think there is a spray on sealant that would reduce the water penetration that is likely causing the damage. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fmiser

Re: [MBZ] bcs whining some more

2008-11-03 Thread Gary Thompson
Sorry, Donald. While I might be surprised, I just don't see Mizzou winning the Big 12 Championship game, no matter who is there from the South... I do agree, though, that the winner of the Big 12 would stack up with anybody in the country this year. Gary Thompson On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 9:39

[MBZ] 115 300D won't start

2008-11-03 Thread R A Bennell
I know this has been covered lots of times but if someone out there wouldn't mind, I would like to be reminded of the procedure for checking the old style series glow plugs. My car would not start this morning and it was in the garage and it is not cold out. The orange light came on as normal

[MBZ] Carfax request

2008-11-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Can somebody please run this VIN: 3GNGK26J0VG102834 Should be a '97 Suburban 2500. Thanks! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] 190D Differential continuing saga

2008-11-03 Thread Curt Raymond
North Central MA, right on the NH border. --- On Mon, 11/3/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D Differential continuing saga To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Monday, November 3,

[MBZ] OT: Chevy full-size 4WD systems

2008-11-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
I know a lot of guys on the list have Suburbans, Tahoes, and full-size Chevy/GMC trucks, so somebody must know the scoop on this. I'm looking at mid-to-late-'90s Suburbans and I think I'm seeing at least three different kinds of 4WD systems, but I'm not sure of the details. Most of the '95s and

Re: [MBZ] 115 300D won't start

2008-11-03 Thread Wonko the Sane
Easy to install. Take out the old glow plugs and toaster wires, put in the new plugs, wire them in series, and do NOT hook up the ground strap at the front side. On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 12:37 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this has been covered lots of times but if someone out

[MBZ] Glow Plug Drama

2008-11-03 Thread Robert Rentfro
Someone remind me where the fuse (strip) is I need to check for the glow plugs? I haven't been able to locate my manuals/CDs since I move and SWMBO said she didn't put them away. And, btw Rusty, glow plug relay is under the dash Bob R '77 300D ___

[MBZ] Stealership Excitement

2008-11-03 Thread Robert Rentfro
Took the '05 E320 to the stealership to get the B service done. I have around $400 left on my Loyalty VISA to burn at the joint so that is why the dealer is doing the service. He said the B service would be $299. Gave me a new C300 to drive. Nice. Anywho..the service guy called and gave me a

Re: [MBZ] OT: Chevy full-size 4WD systems

2008-11-03 Thread R A Bennell
I'm not really familiar with the Chevy's so maybe I should just keep quiet, but I am guessing they are similar to the Fords. My Supercrew has a button set up to switch between 2WD and 4WD high and low but is not fulltime. I cannot run in 4WD on dry pavement. The button just operates an

Re: [MBZ] 115 300D won't start

2008-11-03 Thread R A Bennell
OK, but please clarify. Is there a ground strap there now? And if so, why wouldn't I reconnect it? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re:

Re: [MBZ] Interesting engine

2008-11-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Peter Frederick wrote: We call them hit and miss engines, because the governor usually holds the exhaust valve open on the intake stroke to prevent it from generating an un-needed power stroke. So no pumping losses or intake vacuum? But inefficient anyway?

Re: [MBZ] 115 300D won't start

2008-11-03 Thread Tom Hargrave
Actually, if it's the 12V pencil type replacements for the older loop style, the correct procedure is to wire them in parallel. The ground is not hooked back up because each one provides its own ground. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Drama

2008-11-03 Thread Rolf
Glowplug relay, mounted on the fender. -Rolf Robert Rentfro wrote: Someone remind me where the fuse (strip) is I need to check for the glow plugs? I haven't been able to locate my manuals/CDs since I move and SWMBO said she didn't put them away. And, btw Rusty, glow plug relay is

Re: [MBZ] Interesting engine

2008-11-03 Thread Tom Hargrave
Actually, I re-read my own email need to correct myself. The ones I've seen disable the intake valve on the 'miss' strokes. But even then, there are little pumping losses. The piston will pull a vacuum on the intakes stroke the same vacuum will help pull the piston back in during the

Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Drama

2008-11-03 Thread Tom Hargrave
Was the 77 on the fender or under the dash? From memory, it is under the dash. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rolf Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 12:25 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] 115 300D won't start

2008-11-03 Thread Curt Raymond
You've got new replace whats there glowplugs or new better type replaces the old type? In either case I'm a big fan of replacing the glowplugs. Wait, let me rephrase, I'm a fan of having new glowplugs, I'm not a fan of the job itself although its not really that hard. Easier on your car than

Re: [MBZ] OT - way of topic, concrete restoration

2008-11-03 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Mon, 3 Nov 2008 12:20:51 -0600, R wrote: Do you want to patch the concrete or just slow the process? If the latter, one would think there is a spray on sealant that would reduce the water penetration that is likely causing the damage. Randy If I could go back 6 years and

Re: [MBZ] 115 300D won't start

2008-11-03 Thread Loren Faeth
have someone hold out the glow switch. with a volt meter check for voltage on each busbar. when you get to the one that has no voltage, moving forward, then the plug behind that is the bad one. If you replace loop type with loop type, then everything, including the ground goes back as

Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Drama

2008-11-03 Thread Wonko the Sane
'77 240D has the glow plug fuse on the firewall. Wouldn't a 300D have it in the same location? There is a square cover over it. Follow the wire from the rear glow plug and it will go to the fuse. On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Was the 77 on the fender or

Re: [MBZ] Stealership Excitement

2008-11-03 Thread John Freer
Why wouldn't your warranty kick in for some of that bill? John On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Took the '05 E320 to the stealership to get the B service done. I have around $400 left on my Loyalty VISA to burn at the joint so that is why the dealer is

Re: [MBZ] Interesting engine

2008-11-03 Thread pop3.atlantic.net
I tried to get one of those engines running for a high school friends father during WW-2 in a small SE Indiana town. Instead of a spark plug system, it had mechanical strikers in the top of the cylinder that made contact and ignited the gas vapour. (Later models had spark plugs.) The

Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Drama

2008-11-03 Thread Tom Hargrave
The fuse is on the firewall but the relay (controller) is under the dash. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 1:10 PM To: Mercedes Discussion

Re: [MBZ] Stealership Excitement

2008-11-03 Thread John Robbins
Robert Rentfro wrote: Anywho..the service guy called and gave me a laundry list of stuff that could stand to be done but weren't pressing. Add totaled, his laundry list of stuff, along with the $299 service, added up to a little over a grand. Gotta love those service guys. Woah! What all did

[MBZ] OT: Carvin PA loudspeakers?

2008-11-03 Thread Allan Streib
Anyone know anything about Carvin loudspeakers? Think $400 is reasonable for a pair of (used) 3-way/400W/15-inch ?? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Stealership Excitement

2008-11-03 Thread Allan Streib
I've NEVER had ANY car at ANY dealer for service where they JUST did what I asked them to do without a phone call and a lot of FUD about ten other things that needed to be done. This is because a) the service writer gets paid on commission and b) I suspect that service is really the money-maker

[MBZ] WARNING(virus check bypassed): Re: Glow Plug Drama

2008-11-03 Thread Rich Thomas
My 79 has it on the firewall just aft of the head to the drivers side a bit, you can see the wire leading from the GP to the little plastic holder (which is likely melted?). The fuse itself is about 1.5 long x 1/4 wide with 2 ears that bolt the wires to it. --R Wonko the Sane wrote: '77

Re: [MBZ] Indy in Columbus OH

2008-11-03 Thread ned kleinhenz
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Re: [MBZ] 115 300D won't start

2008-11-03 Thread R A Bennell
Just replacing what is there with new original style. I know there are folks who believe the new style is better but I also read that there is nothing really wrong with the original equipment type so I just got a new set of those. 300D does not have the pull out glow switch. It is in the

Re: [MBZ] OT - way of topic, concrete restoration

2008-11-03 Thread R A Bennell
I am assuming, after seeing the photos, that your intention is to retain it as an ornamental element in your garden. If that is true, then I think I would use a bit of morter to restick anything that might fall off and just let it be. It is sort of a ruin and total patching would not improve

Re: [MBZ] WARNING(virus check bypassed): Re: Glow Plug Drama

2008-11-03 Thread andrew strasfogel
The glow plug fuse on my 83 300TD wagon costs 85 cents. I wish they would blow more often. On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My 79 has it on the firewall just aft of the head to the drivers side a bit, you can see the wire leading from the GP to the

Re: [MBZ] 115 300D won't start

2008-11-03 Thread andrew strasfogel
Hard starting usually means the need for a valve adjustement, according to my indy tech who is an MB diesel expert. On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 4:00 PM, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just replacing what is there with new original style. I know there are folks who believe the new style is

Re: [MBZ] flex disks

2008-11-03 Thread RELNGSON
...Don, the good news is that flex disk replacements aren't terribly expensive... The cost of flex disks is totally irrelevant because a broken front one can total the car when the driveshaft starts flailing around. There are some pictures someplace of the trans area in a car where the

Re: [MBZ] flex disks

2008-11-03 Thread Rolf
Mine let fly during rush hour traffic in the middle of 10 lanes. Swapped it out on the side of the road. Not the best start I've had on a camping trip. On a side note, I kept wondering what people were yelling at me as they drove by. Eventually I made it out, CRACK. Apparently I spent a few hours

Re: [MBZ] flex disks

2008-11-03 Thread Allan Streib
I assume this all applies to W123 cars as well? I do have a pretty distinctive klunk especially on the 3/4 shift if I'm not really under power when that happens Downshifts as well. Allan -- 1983 300D On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:22:52 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: ...Don, the good news is that

[MBZ] Axle grease

2008-11-03 Thread Curt Raymond
You might remember last week when I said Tom said Bimby couldn't ship axle grease and then Rusty said they could. Today I called and Tom had to check with Rusty but yeah they can get it. It goes from MB to Bimby but saves me a drive to my local dealer which is an hour each way. $6.50 a tube

Re: [MBZ] flex disks

2008-11-03 Thread Rolf
Carrier bearing bushing OR rear diff mount? -Rolf Allan Streib wrote: I assume this all applies to W123 cars as well? I do have a pretty distinctive klunk especially on the 3/4 shift if I'm not really under power when that happens Downshifts as well. Allan -- 1983 300D On Mon, 3

[MBZ] American Diesel

2008-11-03 Thread Curt Raymond
http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/cto/904173574.html I'm almost considering this one... Must be okay its got a brand new inspection sticker, MA is fairly picky. Drive it for awhile and transplant the motor into an Struck Wish I had project space. Of course if I did I'd buy the 190D 2.5l

Re: [MBZ] American Diesel

2008-11-03 Thread Allan Streib
Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/cto/904173574.html I'm almost considering this one... Must be okay its got a brand new inspection sticker, MA is fairly picky. I don't think the motors in those GM passenger diesels were ever held up as a model of good

Re: [MBZ] OT: Carvin PA loudspeakers?

2008-11-03 Thread Fmiser
Allan wrote: Anyone know anything about Carvin loudspeakers? Think $400 is reasonable for a pair of (used) 3-way/400W/15-inch ?? Does it look like this? https://www.carvinguitars.com/products/single.php?product=LSX1503 Depends upon what you want them to do. *smile* Carvin are mass-market,

[MBZ] Anybody want a 190D 2.5l Turbo?

2008-11-03 Thread Curt Raymond
Saturday I met up with Fred and hit a junkyard where I got some cosmetic bits for my 240D. After that we checked out a Craigslist 190D 2.5l Turbo. The guy has that and a '90something 190E parts car together for $1500 (Paying attention Kaleb?). The parts car really is, they've pulled the front

Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Drama

2008-11-03 Thread Robert Rentfro
On my '77 it is under the dash. On my '81 300D it was in the engine compartment on the fender. Dealer wants $251.86 for it, but they actually have it. Crazy. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rolf Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008

Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Drama

2008-11-03 Thread Robert Rentfro
Under the dash is correct. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Hargrave Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:27 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Drama Was the 77 on the fender or under the dash? From

Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Drama

2008-11-03 Thread Robert Rentfro
Are those the ice cube looking things in the black box on the fender? Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 12:10 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Glow Plug Drama '77 240D

Re: [MBZ] Stealership Excitement

2008-11-03 Thread Robert Rentfro
It was stuff like rear brakes, cabin filter set, and a new driver's sun visor since the one in it is almost impossible to put down anymore. Nothing covered by warranty. Bob R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Freer Sent: Monday,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Carvin PA loudspeakers?

2008-11-03 Thread Allan Streib
Yeah that's pretty much it. Cosmetically a bit different but I'd bet it's the same box and internals. Just wondering if anyone knew how well this kind of stuff tends to hold its value. I'm looking at this as a possible opportunity do do a quick eBay flip if I can get a decent price on these.

Re: [MBZ] Stealership Excitement

2008-11-03 Thread John Robbins
Robert Rentfro wrote: Here is what my invoice says: MBZ Flex Service B$212.97 Windshield Washer Solvent $7.04 Oil Filter $23.00 Seal$1.90 5W-40 Oil $48.00 Enviro. Waste Charge

Re: [MBZ] Stealership Excitement

2008-11-03 Thread John Freer
Bob, Just had my 05 CDI with 46K miles in the dealer for an oil change. Service writer noticed a small hairline crack in the wood surround by the gearshift and the rear door sill plate was slightly bent. All was replaced at no charge. Certainly think your malfunctioning sun visor would be covered.

Re: [MBZ] Stealership Excitement

2008-11-03 Thread Mitch Haley
My first thought was he could have topped up his washer fluid before he went there and saved $6. My second thought was he paid $300 for an oil change, some windshield wash, and an attempt to sell other services. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] Stealership Excitement

2008-11-03 Thread Rolf
All I can say is Atlanta Classic Cars has always changed a fair price, done the work specified, and mentioned any other problems they found along the way. My wife says they are by far the best mechanic experience she has ever had. Everyone treated her with respect and not like she was some dumb

Re: [MBZ] flex disks

2008-11-03 Thread dave walton
There should be zero play in a Flex Disk. By the time you notice any, it's too late. Any visible cracking indicates replacement. -Dave Walton On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 4:27 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume this all applies to W123 cars as well? I do have a pretty distinctive

Re: [MBZ] Stealership Excitement

2008-11-03 Thread Robert Rentfro
Here is what my invoice says: MBZ Flex Service B$212.97 Windshield Washer Solvent $7.04 Oil Filter $23.00 Seal$1.90 5W-40 Oil $48.00 Enviro. Waste Charge$6.00 Labor

Re: [MBZ] Stealership Excitement

2008-11-03 Thread R A Bennell
But you would think they would be smart enough to charge an extra $6 for the oil change and fill the washer fluid for free. That charge for the washer fluid just seems petty. Either that or just leave it and not top it up. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Stealership Excitement

2008-11-03 Thread Wilton Strickland
That's why I've done my own oil changes for 62 years (started helping brother do 'em at 12). 'Think the oil was ~$0.20 per qt. then. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 5:02 PM

Re: [MBZ] Stealership Excitement

2008-11-03 Thread Wilton Strickland
That's why it's called STEALERship. 'Got the name the old fashioned way - they EARNED it. Wilton - Original Message - From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stealership Excitement

Re: [MBZ] 300E oil question (I almost hate to ask this!)

2008-11-03 Thread LarryT
Be careful using the Mobil site for oil suggestions for older cars. Their focus is on newer cars - most of their customers drive cars less than 8 years old IMO so when asked about a car that's ~15 yrs old their info may be a little skewed. They may however have some oils specifically for

Re: [MBZ] dash removal 201

2008-11-03 Thread Hendrik Fay
Nothing mysterious there, couple of screws behind the speaker grilles, about 4 along the bottom. Much the same as a 123, the cluster will have to come out and the center air vent, unscrew the headlight switch and all the other little bits and pieces. Hendrik Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Anybody

Re: [MBZ] Beaver dolly

2008-11-03 Thread Hendrik Fay
I like the way the fire truck is following it, guess they weren't 100% sure this was going to work. However I thought that seaplanes had little wheels on the side of the floats to enable them to land on solid ground, then again I know as much about planes as I do about sports cars. Hendrik

Re: [MBZ] American Diesel

2008-11-03 Thread Tom Hargrave
The GM trash diesel was a good engine by 82. Problem was, they did so much damage with previous years that there was no possibility of recovering. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt

Re: [MBZ] 300E oil question (I almost hate to ask this!)

2008-11-03 Thread Hendrik Fay
The only way to be 100% sure is to hook up an mechanical oil gauge to the motor, to get an idea of what the 'actual' oil pressure is. Hendrik Tom Hargrave wrote: I don't think you are being anal. Oil pressure that bounces between 0 - 1 BAR at idle then goes full scale at road speed is not

Re: [MBZ] 300E oil question (I almost hate to ask this!)

2008-11-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
You are in the minority then. Its been my experience after 20 years, sometimes less, they all pretty much do it. In fact, my old 94 E420 even did it. Usually when you turn the key on before the engine is even running you will see the guage flicker, sometimes move as far up as half. Its the

Re: [MBZ] 300E oil question (I almost hate to ask this!)

2008-11-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, if it really had 0 pressure, you would hear problems. Gary Hurst wrote: i hate to agree with kleb, but i think he is right here. according to the gauge, the ex wife's 300E was driving with zero oil pressue at idle for years, which then shot up to 3 bar when driving. then i changed the

Re: [MBZ] 190D Differential continuing saga

2008-11-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have a woman I deal with for business here that has the same last name as you. Just FYI. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where are located? I will be in NJ this week for work. Regards, Brian Toscano Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] OT: Chevy full-size 4WD systems

2008-11-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well supposedly the old fashioned manual version is more reliable, less to go wrong. Both were offered along side each other, may still be. My old 87 burb had the leaver, so did my 93. My 02 truck is push button but I have seen other 02's and newer with the leaver. Alex Chamberlain wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Anybody want a 190D 2.5l Turbo?

2008-11-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Where was this? Im sure too far away and too much money for what you describe. Curt Raymond wrote: Saturday I met up with Fred and hit a junkyard where I got some cosmetic bits for my 240D. After that we checked out a Craigslist 190D 2.5l Turbo. The guy has that and a '90something 190E

Re: [MBZ] 190D Differential continuing saga

2008-11-03 Thread brian . toscano
I don't have any known family in Okla. When is the next Okie BBQ or GTG? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:31:28 To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 190D

[MBZ] OT: '05 Dakota

2008-11-03 Thread Curt Raymond
Got a call from the stealership where I'd tried a Chevy Colorado last week. He's sold the Colorado but he's got an '05 Dakota he wants me to look at. I'd seen it before but didn't drive it. The nice thing is its about $6,000 cheaper (and 2 years older) than the Colorado. I also consider the

Re: [MBZ] 190D Differential continuing saga

2008-11-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Oh Im not sure. If there is one, it would be in June. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have any known family in Okla. When is the next Okie BBQ or GTG? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008

Re: [MBZ] Stealership Excitement

2008-11-03 Thread Hendrik Fay
They know how to make their money, 7 bucks for windshield juice. I can just about buy a whole bottle of juice (without the star on it of course) for that. My question is how do they know that the filters need replacing, did they inspect them or just guess? Where do you live? Dustville? I know

Re: [MBZ] 300E oil question (I almost hate to ask this!)

2008-11-03 Thread Curt Raymond
The gauge in my 190D flickers when I put the key on and the engine is off, dances a bit from 0 to 1.5 or so, taps against the stop. Start the car and it balances out some but flickers now from .5 to 2 or so. Once I get it above 1500 rpm or so it sits at 3. I figure if I'm moving and it comes

Re: [MBZ] American Diesel

2008-11-03 Thread Curt Raymond
Yeah I figured at 26 years old with 70,000 miles if it was going to fail it already would have. I HATE how those older American boats ride but it would be an interesting ride if nothing else. Parts for everything but the engine should be cheap and used parts again for everything but the engine

Re: [MBZ] 300E oil question (I almost hate to ask this!)

2008-11-03 Thread Wonko the Sane
The 300E has been drained of the Kendall 5W-30 and refilled with Mobil 1 15W-50. Finished about 3 minutes ago. I didn't change the filter but how it is mounted -- pretty much upside down -- suggests 99% of any Kendall in there had drained out. The filter has only 400 miles on it. Noticed in the

Re: [MBZ] OT: Carvin PA loudspeakers?

2008-11-03 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:06:53 -0500, Allan wrote: Yeah that's pretty much it. Cosmetically a bit different but I'd bet it's the same box and internals. Just wondering if anyone knew how well this kind of stuff tends to hold its value. I'm looking at this as a possible

[MBZ] Is this out of line?

2008-11-03 Thread Michael Esh
I went to a local independent and he quoted $850.00 to replace all three tie rod assemblies and replace the bushings on the idler arm. He charges $98.50 per labor hour. I can get the parts from Rusty for about $150.00. Even if he doubles his money on parts he is charging me 5.5 hours. Is

Re: [MBZ] Floats

2008-11-03 Thread RELNGSON
...However I thought that seaplanes had little wheels on the side of the floats to enable them to land on solid ground,... Floats with retractable wheels (which have brakes and are steerable) are heavy and very expensive and the consequences of landing on water without retracting them

Re: [MBZ] 115 300D won't start

2008-11-03 Thread Peter Frederick
First, the glow plug lamp will light as normal in a W115 300D with series plugs even if the hot wire at the rear is off, it's not current operated. Likely you have a burned out plug. The way to check is to get a volt meter and check the voltage to ground from the glow plugs from back to

Re: [MBZ] Stealership Excitement

2008-11-03 Thread Allan Streib
Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They know how to make their money, 7 bucks for windshield juice. I can just about buy a whole bottle of juice (without the star on it of course) for that. I watch for sales at $1.00/gallon and buy cases of it. Normally it sells for $2 - $3/gallon

Re: [MBZ] 115 300D won't start

2008-11-03 Thread Peter Frederick
The 300D has a keyswitch operated relay and vacuum shutoff, not a pull knob. Peter On Nov 3, 2008, at 12:49 PM, Loren Faeth wrote: have someone hold out the glow switch. with a volt meter check for voltage on each busbar. when you get to the one that has no voltage, moving forward,

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