Re: [MBZ] The big hole in the ground

2010-03-14 Thread Hendrik Fay

Hi All

Hendrik's wife here again.
Am in the process of finalising our epic journey across America  am 
booking the last two flights tomorrow being:

Chicago to NYC  NYC to Tulsa.

Our proposed driving route is: Tulsa - Oklahoma City - Amarillo - Santa 
Fe - Grand Canyon - Las Vegas - San Francisco  back to Los Angeles.


What the main attractions are along they way that are worth looking at 
and how long does it take to stop  have a look at the Grand Canyon?


Cheers
Fay
Who has Hendrik cooking dinner on the barbie  allowing him to have a 
beer while he is doing it
  


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Re: [MBZ] The big hole in the ground

2010-03-14 Thread Peter Frederick
It's been a long, long time since I visited the Grand Canyon, but  
it's a day trip, more or less -- an hour or so from Flagstaff, I  
think, there is going to be lots of traffic, quite a bit to see, etc.


You could do it in half a day, I think, if you drove ti with only a  
stop or two.  If you want to SEE anything, it may take longer.  It's  
pretty big, and you really have to drive through.  A nice museum,  
several ruins, etc.


I don't recommend hiking down Bright Angel Canyon unless you are VERY  
fit -- going down is OK, but it's like climbing stairs coming back out!


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] The big hole in the ground

2010-03-14 Thread Bob Rentfro
That's a lot of driving.
From Flagstaff, it takes about an hour to get to the Grand Canyon. When you
guys come it will be pretty crowded. To see it correctly it will take most
of a day.

Hiking is the best way to see the place. If you guys are hikers, going down
to Bright Angel, eating lunch, then hiking out is nice. Kinda rough if
you're not fit/hikers. Many people start out and find out it's more than
they bargained for.

I've hiked in the canyon many times. Each trip I met met, almost
exclusively, people not from here. They all agreed that hiking the Canyon
was the best part of their trip to the states.

Bob R
Still looking into the Disneyland stuff

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote:

 It's been a long, long time since I visited the Grand Canyon, but it's a
 day trip, more or less -- an hour or so from Flagstaff, I think, there is
 going to be lots of traffic, quite a bit to see, etc.

 You could do it in half a day, I think, if you drove ti with only a stop or
 two.  If you want to SEE anything, it may take longer.  It's pretty big, and
 you really have to drive through.  A nice museum, several ruins, etc.

 I don't recommend hiking down Bright Angel Canyon unless you are VERY fit
 -- going down is OK, but it's like climbing stairs coming back out!

 Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Serious equipment wanted here

2010-03-14 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:13:26 -0500 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Craig McCluskey wrote:
  
  So would using a sabot like in a black powder rifle be cheating?
 
 General Rules
 1. All pumpkins fired must remain intact until they impact the ground
 to obtain an official measurement.
 2. No part of the machine shall cross the firing line.
 3. No Wadding (including bean chaff, straw, foam, metal, or any other
 object.)
 4. No explosives are allowed.
 
 http://punkinchunkin.com/punkinchunkinrulesv10.pdf

This is a much bigger deal than I thought!


Craig

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[MBZ] Detouring to Santa Fe and Los Alamos [was Re: The big hole in the ground]

2010-03-14 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 18:27:45 +1030 Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au
wrote:

 Our proposed driving route is: Tulsa - Oklahoma City - Amarillo - Santa 
 Fe - Grand Canyon - Las Vegas - San Francisco  back to Los Angeles.

When you drive west out of Amarillo, you will be on Interstate 40 (I-40).
That runs right into Albuquerque. Santa Fe is a detour. The shortest way
to Santa Fe is to get off the Interstate at Clines Corners and turn north.

And if you're in Santa Fe, it's only another 45 - 60 minutes to get to
Los Alamos, the home of the atomic bomb, where I live.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Detouring to Santa Fe and Los Alamos [was Re: The big hole in the ground]

2010-03-14 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:52:15 -0600 Craig McCluskey
diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 When you drive west out of Amarillo, you will be on Interstate 40
 (I-40). That runs right into Albuquerque. Santa Fe is a detour. The
 shortest way to Santa Fe is to get off the Interstate at Clines Corners
 and turn north.
 
 And if you're in Santa Fe, it's only another 45 - 60 minutes to get to
 Los Alamos, the home of the atomic bomb, where I live.


And I forgot to include the map link:


http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8ll=35.496456,-106.070251spn=1.616676,2.430725z=9



Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Valve Seats 190DT

2010-03-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

This is where you need to send it to.

http://www.gishart.com/sites/dover/index.htm

Never used used them myself but have heard good things about them.

Frederick W Moir wrote:

Dwight.
Info would be great.
Thanks.
Fred Moir

On 3/13/2010 2:01 PM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:

Fred,
I'd contact Carriage House MB in New London CT-they have three good 
old time
mechanics in their classic care division  and I think they do engine 
work.
Email me off list for more info or if you want me to call the folks I 
know

there.
Dwight

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.
Wickford, RI

   


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Re: [MBZ] The big hole in the ground

2010-03-14 Thread Rich Thomas
You can see it when you drive by, but it is best to stop and take some 
piccies.


--R

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/tip/2220


 Amarillo, Texas http://www.roadsideamerica.com/location/tx -
 Cadillac Ranch


Address:
   I-40, Amarillo, TX
Directions:
   In a cow pasture along eastbound I-40 between exits 60 and 62. Exit
   onto the frontage road, then enter the pasture through an unlocked
   gate. Visitors are encouraged.
Admission:
   Free.
Hours:
   Daylight hours. 




On 3/14/2010 3:57 AM, Hendrik  Fay wrote:

Hi All

Hendrik's wife here again.
Am in the process of finalising our epic journey across America  am 
booking the last two flights tomorrow being:

Chicago to NYC  NYC to Tulsa.

Our proposed driving route is: Tulsa - Oklahoma City - Amarillo - 
Santa Fe - Grand Canyon - Las Vegas - San Francisco  back to Los 
Angeles.


What the main attractions are along they way that are worth looking at 
and how long does it take to stop  have a look at the Grand Canyon?


Cheers
Fay
Who has Hendrik cooking dinner on the barbie  allowing him to have a 
beer while he is doing it


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Re: [MBZ] The big hole in the ground

2010-03-14 Thread Rich Thomas

Oops I forgot


 Amarillo, Texas http://www.roadsideamerica.com/location/tx - Muffler Man

Address:
   8200 W Interstate 40, Amarillo, TX
Directions:
   Next to the highway on westbound I-40 exit 64.
Phone:
   806-335-2325

--R


On 3/14/2010 3:57 AM, Hendrik  Fay wrote:

Hi All

Hendrik's wife here again.
Am in the process of finalising our epic journey across America  am 
booking the last two flights tomorrow being:

Chicago to NYC  NYC to Tulsa.

Our proposed driving route is: Tulsa - Oklahoma City - Amarillo - 
Santa Fe - Grand Canyon - Las Vegas - San Francisco  back to Los 
Angeles.


What the main attractions are along they way that are worth looking at 
and how long does it take to stop  have a look at the Grand Canyon?


Cheers
Fay
Who has Hendrik cooking dinner on the barbie  allowing him to have a 
beer while he is doing it


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Re: [MBZ] Detouring to Santa Fe and Los Alamos [was Re: The big hole in the ground]

2010-03-14 Thread Rich Thomas
If you get off I40 just past Santa Rosa and head up to Las Vegas NM 
there is a really cool very old hotel there in town on the main square, 
it was in the movie There Will Be Blood. and then you can go on up to 
Taos and poke around there, visit the Taos Pueblo and the canyon there, 
Los Alamos is up that way too.


http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8ll=35.496456,-106.070251spn=1.616676,2.430725z=9

On 3/14/2010 10:53 AM, Craig McCluskey wrote:

On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:52:15 -0600 Craig McCluskey
diese...@pisquared.net  wrote:

   

When you drive west out of Amarillo, you will be on Interstate 40
(I-40). That runs right into Albuquerque. Santa Fe is a detour. The
shortest way to Santa Fe is to get off the Interstate at Clines Corners
and turn north.

And if you're in Santa Fe, it's only another 45 - 60 minutes to get to
Los Alamos, the home of the atomic bomb, where I live.
 


And I forgot to include the map link:


http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8ll=35.496456,-106.070251spn=1.616676,2.430725z=9



Craig

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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Ign Switch / GP Relay / Preglow Light

2010-03-14 Thread LarryT

Jim said about GP Relays  Can you solder?  I've fixed them

That's encouraging.  I expect the new one from Rusty tomorrow but will try 
to repair the old one.  It can be a spare or I can sell it


I assume I will be searching for bad solder joints?  things like 
discoloration, cracks in the solder or anyting else that looks odd - 
correct?


Thx
LarryT
91 300D

OilAnalysis Time?
Looking for Weber Parts or Porsche Posters?
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Ign Switch / GP Relay / Preglow Light 
(Wasdelivery valveproject)


I think it *must* be the relay.  Probably the timer.  Too bad there's no 
*fixing* to the relays -


Who says?  Can you solder?  I've fixed them.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Delivery Valves Glow Plugs

2010-03-14 Thread LarryT

You wrote   Capacitavely couple it to be safe, if unsure.

Hi Jim - 
It's like you speak another language.  ;-^


LarryT
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They are only good for TTL and CMOS digital logic.


I have myself convinced that this particular one
is OK.  (I may have opened it to reverse-engineer
its power requirements.)  Capacitavely couple it
to be safe, if unsure.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] The big hole in the ground

2010-03-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Yea,  we stopped by there on the way back from Craigs.

Rich Thomas wrote:
You can see it when you drive by, but it is best to stop and take some 
piccies.


--R

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/tip/2220


 Amarillo, Texas http://www.roadsideamerica.com/location/tx -
 Cadillac Ranch


Address:
   I-40, Amarillo, TX
Directions:
   In a cow pasture along eastbound I-40 between exits 60 and 62. Exit
   onto the frontage road, then enter the pasture through an unlocked
   gate. Visitors are encouraged.
Admission:
   Free.
Hours:
   Daylight hours.


On 3/14/2010 3:57 AM, Hendrik  Fay wrote:

Hi All

Hendrik's wife here again.
Am in the process of finalising our epic journey across America  am 
booking the last two flights tomorrow being:

Chicago to NYC  NYC to Tulsa.

Our proposed driving route is: Tulsa - Oklahoma City - Amarillo - 
Santa Fe - Grand Canyon - Las Vegas - San Francisco  back to Los 
Angeles.


What the main attractions are along they way that are worth looking 
at and how long does it take to stop  have a look at the Grand Canyon?


Cheers
Fay
Who has Hendrik cooking dinner on the barbie  allowing him to have a 
beer while he is doing it


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Re: [MBZ] The big hole in the ground

2010-03-14 Thread Mountain Man
It looks like you may be biting off more than you may really want to chew.
In other words, you may need a vacation when you get home, so that you
can recuperate.
You might find yourself more satisfied with visiting less than half
the places you have on your list of places to visit - I mean, really
whittle it down to only a few places, enjoy to the max the few places
you visit and be satisfied that america is a real place with real
beauty.  Any driving trip should be encouraged to see the countryside
off the interstate highway system.  The interstate highway system is a
350-foot wide swath of asphalt/concrete across the USA for purposes of
getting goods there quickly, but it is certainly not the way to see
the USA.  The best roads to travel and that offer a real view of the
countryside are the US Routes, like Route 66 and other major western
USA USRoutes.  They provide an unmolested view of real america,
instead of the view of america that some madison avenue idiot wanting
you to spend your money wants you to see.  None of us here live the
madison avenue life that most attractions here offer.  However, all of
us here live within 10 miles of a USRoute across america - all
wonderful and real views of america.  Of course, if you want to see
how the wealthy people want you to spend your money on the attractions
they want you to see - knock yourself out.  There are plenty of
attractions put up by snake oil salesmen and shysters - especially
across the western USA.  Be mindful that Vegas is all a charade, a
playground, an unreal vista of what america is NOT all about.
Rand off - I'm done.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] The big hole in the ground

2010-03-14 Thread buymbparts

That was great sound advice. Very good.


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From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 13:50:09 
To: Mercedes Discussion Listmercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The big hole in the ground

It looks like you may be biting off more than you may really want to chew.
In other words, you may need a vacation when you get home, so that you
can recuperate.
You might find yourself more satisfied with visiting less than half
the places you have on your list of places to visit - I mean, really
whittle it down to only a few places, enjoy to the max the few places
you visit and be satisfied that america is a real place with real
beauty.  Any driving trip should be encouraged to see the countryside
off the interstate highway system.  The interstate highway system is a
350-foot wide swath of asphalt/concrete across the USA for purposes of
getting goods there quickly, but it is certainly not the way to see
the USA.  The best roads to travel and that offer a real view of the
countryside are the US Routes, like Route 66 and other major western
USA USRoutes.  They provide an unmolested view of real america,
instead of the view of america that some madison avenue idiot wanting
you to spend your money wants you to see.  None of us here live the
madison avenue life that most attractions here offer.  However, all of
us here live within 10 miles of a USRoute across america - all
wonderful and real views of america.  Of course, if you want to see
how the wealthy people want you to spend your money on the attractions
they want you to see - knock yourself out.  There are plenty of
attractions put up by snake oil salesmen and shysters - especially
across the western USA.  Be mindful that Vegas is all a charade, a
playground, an unreal vista of what america is NOT all about.
Rand off - I'm done.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Valve Seats 190DT

2010-03-14 Thread Frederick W Moir

Kaleb.
Ta, very much. I'll put them on my list of possibles, though I'd like 
some place nearer.

Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred

On 3/14/2010 11:24 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

This is where you need to send it to.

http://www.gishart.com/sites/dover/index.htm

Never used used them myself but have heard good things about them.

Frederick W Moir wrote:

Dwight.
Info would be great.
Thanks.
Fred Moir

On 3/13/2010 2:01 PM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr wrote:

Fred,
I'd contact Carriage House MB in New London CT-they have three good 
old time
mechanics in their classic care division  and I think they do engine 
work.
Email me off list for more info or if you want me to call the folks 
I know

there.
Dwight

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.
1978 240D 4 speed. 218K + miles. 1990 300D 2.5t 170K miles.
Wickford, RI



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Re: [MBZ] The big hole in the ground

2010-03-14 Thread Redghost
Grand Canyon is doable in four minutes, but you should take a few  
hours to really have a look.  Maybe a burro ride to the bottom, or  
check out the natives.  Have some lunch.


Go for the local cuisine in Amarillo and Santa Fe.  Nothing like good  
BBQ in TX or southwest mexi food in Santa Fe.  Check out the native  
arts as well as the cultural doings in Santa Fe.  Great jewelry as  
well as art of the  Georgia O'Keefe sort.


clay

On Mar 13, 2010, at 11:57 PM, Hendrik  Fay wrote:


Hi All

Hendrik's wife here again.
Am in the process of finalising our epic journey across America  am  
booking the last two flights tomorrow being:

Chicago to NYC  NYC to Tulsa.

Our proposed driving route is: Tulsa - Oklahoma City - Amarillo -  
Santa Fe - Grand Canyon - Las Vegas - San Francisco  back to Los  
Angeles.


What the main attractions are along they way that are worth looking  
at and how long does it take to stop  have a look at the Grand  
Canyon?


Cheers
Fay
Who has Hendrik cooking dinner on the barbie  allowing him to have  
a beer while he is doing it




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Re: [MBZ] Detouring to Santa Fe and Los Alamos [was Re: The big hole in the ground]

2010-03-14 Thread Redghost
May as well schedule some time to checkout Roswell.  May find little  
green men.


clay

On Mar 14, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:

If you get off I40 just past Santa Rosa and head up to Las Vegas NM  
there is a really cool very old hotel there in town on the main  
square, it was in the movie There Will Be Blood. and then you can  
go on up to Taos and poke around there, visit the Taos Pueblo and  
the canyon there, Los Alamos is up that way too.


http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8ll=35.496456,-106.070251spn=1.616676,2.430725z=9

On 3/14/2010 10:53 AM, Craig McCluskey wrote:

On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:52:15 -0600 Craig McCluskey
diese...@pisquared.net  wrote:



When you drive west out of Amarillo, you will be on Interstate 40
(I-40). That runs right into Albuquerque. Santa Fe is a detour. The
shortest way to Santa Fe is to get off the Interstate at Clines  
Corners

and turn north.

And if you're in Santa Fe, it's only another 45 - 60 minutes to  
get to

Los Alamos, the home of the atomic bomb, where I live.



And I forgot to include the map link:


http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8ll=35.496456,-106.070251spn=1.616676,2.430725z=9



Craig

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[MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I am sick of my 6 year old maytag washer leaving crap all over the 
dishes, which seems to get worse and worse.  Im looking for a new one.  
Anyone got any to recommend or avoid?


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Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-14 Thread Redghost
Change your soap, clean the filter and sanitize.  The next time you  
load the washer, do not cram it full.


The recent brood of dishwashers is garbage.  They have to meet new  
energy and enviro rules, which has made them less able to actually  
wash a dish.  Best DW I have had is a 1976 KitchenAid that seemed to  
rip the top layer of atoms off the dishes.


clay

On Mar 14, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

I am sick of my 6 year old maytag washer leaving crap all over the  
dishes, which seems to get worse and worse.  Im looking for a new  
one.  Anyone got any to recommend or avoid?


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euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com



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Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-14 Thread Bob Rentfro
I don't know too much about them but when I shop for a new one I'm going to
compare decibel level. I hate our noisy  one.

Bob R

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 I am sick of my 6 year old maytag washer leaving crap all over the dishes,
 which seems to get worse and worse.  Im looking for a new one.  Anyone got
 any to recommend or avoid?

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Re: [MBZ] Detouring to Santa Fe and Los Alamos [was Re: The bighole in the ground]

2010-03-14 Thread WILTON
I lived in Roswell several months; didn't see any; in fact, 'didn't even 
hear 'bout any while I was there - 1962.   ;)


Wilton

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Detouring to Santa Fe and Los Alamos [was Re: The bighole 
in the ground]



May as well schedule some time to checkout Roswell.  May find little 
green men.


clay

On Mar 14, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:

If you get off I40 just past Santa Rosa and head up to Las Vegas NM 
there is a really cool very old hotel there in town on the main  square, 
it was in the movie There Will Be Blood. and then you can  go on up to 
Taos and poke around there, visit the Taos Pueblo and  the canyon there, 
Los Alamos is up that way too.


http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8ll=35.496456,-106.070251spn=1.616676,2.430725z=9

On 3/14/2010 10:53 AM, Craig McCluskey wrote:

On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 08:52:15 -0600 Craig McCluskey
diese...@pisquared.net  wrote:



When you drive west out of Amarillo, you will be on Interstate 40
(I-40). That runs right into Albuquerque. Santa Fe is a detour. The
shortest way to Santa Fe is to get off the Interstate at Clines 
Corners

and turn north.

And if you're in Santa Fe, it's only another 45 - 60 minutes to  get to
Los Alamos, the home of the atomic bomb, where I live.



And I forgot to include the map link:


http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8ll=35.496456,-106.070251spn=1.616676,2.430725z=9



Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-14 Thread buymbparts

Wash by hand. That is what we do.


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Change your soap, clean the filter and sanitize.  The next time you  
load the washer, do not cram it full.

The recent brood of dishwashers is garbage.  They have to meet new  
energy and enviro rules, which has made them less able to actually  
wash a dish.  Best DW I have had is a 1976 KitchenAid that seemed to  
rip the top layer of atoms off the dishes.

clay

On Mar 14, 2010, at 2:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

 I am sick of my 6 year old maytag washer leaving crap all over the  
 dishes, which seems to get worse and worse.  Im looking for a new  
 one.  Anyone got any to recommend or avoid?

 -- 
 Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89  
 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D  
 euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com


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Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-14 Thread Russ Williams

Both Daughter and S-I-L have Bosch dishwashers.
Low Decibel and do a good job of cleaning.
S-I-L's is about 8 years old and was one of the top of the line models. 
She hasn't had any problems with it.
Daughter's is 2 years old a mid-price model No problems so far. Much 
quieter that S-I-L's.


Russ W

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
I am sick of my 6 year old maytag washer leaving crap all over the 
dishes, which seems to get worse and worse.  Im looking for a new 
one.  Anyone got any to recommend or avoid?




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Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-14 Thread Rich Thomas
Buy a Bosch.  They are on the expensive end but well worth it.  Very 
quiet, do a great job, and all stainless steel inside.  I bought one 
about 1.5 yr ago from Lowes, they had some kind of rebate on them, $50 
if I recall.  I think they are made in NC too, so domestic manufacture 
with Deutsche engineering I guess.


I have bought expensive Kitchenaids in the past, the expensive ones have 
the same (poor) guts as the cheap ones.  At one point after going 
through 2 of them I went to some dept store, found a really cheap one on 
the display floor, offered the sales guy $50 less than it was priced 
at,  he said sure, got it for maybe $100 or 150, I wheeled it out, put 
it in, worked same as the expensive one but noisy, plastic tub, etc.  I 
figured if they were generally disposable I would just get cheap ones 
and let them run til they died.  But the Boschs are great, much much 
better than the cheap ones.  They have different models with different 
basket deals that are adjustable or not, wine glass racks, etc. and 
different controls and cycles but you really don't need all the cycles.


--R

On 3/14/2010 5:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
I am sick of my 6 year old maytag washer leaving crap all over the 
dishes, which seems to get worse and worse.  Im looking for a new 
one.  Anyone got any to recommend or avoid?




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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Ign Switch / GP Relay / Preglow Light

2010-03-14 Thread Jim Cathey
I assume I will be searching for bad solder joints?  things like 
discoloration, cracks in the solder or anyting else that looks odd - 
correct?


Yup.  And cast a skeptical eye over any/all electrolytic capacitors
you may find, those have a poor track record when it comes to longevity.

I just replaced the lone Frako electrolytic (a particularly troublesome
brand in these things) that I found in the Jetronic in the 380 SL.
It was rated 100uF/40V, and weighed in at 13, 44, 63, or 82 uF on the
GenRad Digibridge, depending on the series/parallel and 60/1000 Hz
settings.  The D factor was large, which sucks.  (Related to its
internal series resistance.)  This is not a very good capacitor
anymore.

We'll see if it makes any difference.  I got out an old Tek 561A
freebie scope and was able to see that the Jetronic seems to be
doing what it ought to.  The O2 sensor voltage hovers at around
500mV, with swings up to 900mV and down to 300mV when playing
games with the throttle.  (Not back on the road, yet.)

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] The big hole in the ground

2010-03-14 Thread OK Don
I think the oldest house in N. America is in Sante Fe as well 9not really
impressive, other than the age), as well as a very old church. Sante Fe is
our favorite city to visit in NM, so far anyway. Wife and I are going to see
the Grand Canyon for the first time, and our first trip since our first born
without children, and not going to visit relatives, next month.

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

 Grand Canyon is doable in four minutes, but you should take a few hours to
 really have a look.  Maybe a burro ride to the bottom, or check out the
 natives.  Have some lunch.

 Go for the local cuisine in Amarillo and Santa Fe.  Nothing like good BBQ
 in TX or southwest mexi food in Santa Fe.  Check out the native arts as well
 as the cultural doings in Santa Fe.  Great jewelry as well as art of the
  Georgia O'Keefe sort.

 clay


 On Mar 13, 2010, at 11:57 PM, Hendrik  Fay wrote:

 Hi All

 Hendrik's wife here again.
 Am in the process of finalising our epic journey across America  am
 booking the last two flights tomorrow being:
 Chicago to NYC  NYC to Tulsa.

 Our proposed driving route is: Tulsa - Oklahoma City - Amarillo - Santa Fe
 - Grand Canyon - Las Vegas - San Francisco  back to Los Angeles.

 What the main attractions are along they way that are worth looking at and
 how long does it take to stop  have a look at the Grand Canyon?

 Cheers
 Fay
 Who has Hendrik cooking dinner on the barbie  allowing him to have a beer
 while he is doing it



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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: Ign Switch / GP Relay / Preglow Light

2010-03-14 Thread Mitch Haley

Jim Cathey wrote:


We'll see if it makes any difference.  I got out an old Tek 561A
freebie scope and was able to see that the Jetronic seems to be
doing what it ought to.  The O2 sensor voltage hovers at around
500mV, with swings up to 900mV and down to 300mV when playing
games with the throttle.  (Not back on the road, yet.)


I forget, did you ever try swapping the injector from the wet cylinder with 
another?

I also forget whether it was CIS or electronic. If CIS, you can pull the 
injectors, stick them into containers, and supply 12v to the fuel pump while 
lifting the airflow flapper. Does the container under the #1 injector fill 
faster than the others? Or does #1 flow fuel before you lift the airflow flapper?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-14 Thread OK Don
We bought one laswt year to replace a worthless Maytag. Ended up with a
Kenmore. The sales critter was showing us which Kenmores had the gots from
which other makes - You could see the same guts if you looked carefully.
It's quiet, much more so than any other one we've owned (this is the fifth,
I think, since 1979), and Doris is happy with the way it cleans. It has a
turbo mode where you place really dirty pans, etc. in the rear of the
bottom, and they get extra attention. It actually does a good job on burnt
on stuff.

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 Buy a Bosch.  They are on the expensive end but well worth it.  Very quiet,
 do a great job, and all stainless steel inside.  I bought one about 1.5 yr
 ago from Lowes, they had some kind of rebate on them, $50 if I recall.  I
 think they are made in NC too, so domestic manufacture with Deutsche
 engineering I guess.

 I have bought expensive Kitchenaids in the past, the expensive ones have
 the same (poor) guts as the cheap ones.  At one point after going through 2
 of them I went to some dept store, found a really cheap one on the display
 floor, offered the sales guy $50 less than it was priced at,  he said sure,
 got it for maybe $100 or 150, I wheeled it out, put it in, worked same as
 the expensive one but noisy, plastic tub, etc.  I figured if they were
 generally disposable I would just get cheap ones and let them run til they
 died.  But the Boschs are great, much much better than the cheap ones.  They
 have different models with different basket deals that are adjustable or
 not, wine glass racks, etc. and different controls and cycles but you really
 don't need all the cycles.

 --R

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[MBZ] Epic double tranny swap/conversion week

2010-03-14 Thread OK Don
We started yesterday on the standard-auto tranny swap between two '84 190Ds.
So far, we're only one bolt away from removing the standard tranny from the
gold car. But we spent all afternoon today on it, and all we accomplished
was to round the corners of the bolt head. I think we're going to un-bolt
the engine mounts from the frame to slide the engine forward, hoping to get
enough room to pound a 6 sided socket onto the bolt, and hopefully get it
loose. If not, we're probably into pulling the engine to get it out. For
those of you who have BTDT, this is the tranny-engine bolt above the top
starter bolt. I thought that this little engine would be easy to work
on/around. Nope - they shrank the chassis to match.
At this rate, we'll be lucky to have one running car at the end of the week.
Hopefuly, we'll learn something as we go, and it'll get easier, but that's
not my track record ---

OK Don
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Re: [MBZ] The big hole in the ground

2010-03-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Yes, they have the oldest church and the oldest house, we went and saw 
both of them.


OK Don wrote:

I think the oldest house in N. America is in Sante Fe as well 9not really
impressive, other than the age), as well as a very old church. Sante Fe is
our favorite city to visit in NM, so far anyway. Wife and I are going to see
the Grand Canyon for the first time, and our first trip since our first born
without children, and not going to visit relatives, next month.

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

  

Grand Canyon is doable in four minutes, but you should take a few hours to
really have a look.  Maybe a burro ride to the bottom, or check out the
natives.  Have some lunch.

Go for the local cuisine in Amarillo and Santa Fe.  Nothing like good BBQ
in TX or southwest mexi food in Santa Fe.  Check out the native arts as well
as the cultural doings in Santa Fe.  Great jewelry as well as art of the
 Georgia O'Keefe sort.

clay


On Mar 13, 2010, at 11:57 PM, Hendrik  Fay wrote:

Hi All


Hendrik's wife here again.
Am in the process of finalising our epic journey across America  am
booking the last two flights tomorrow being:
Chicago to NYC  NYC to Tulsa.

Our proposed driving route is: Tulsa - Oklahoma City - Amarillo - Santa Fe
- Grand Canyon - Las Vegas - San Francisco  back to Los Angeles.

What the main attractions are along they way that are worth looking at and
how long does it take to stop  have a look at the Grand Canyon?

Cheers
Fay
Who has Hendrik cooking dinner on the barbie  allowing him to have a beer
while he is doing it

  


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Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-14 Thread Dieselhead

I bought a kitchenaid DW in 1980, and it was/is a good one, and still going.

I'd talk to very experienced repair guys and ask them which they 
think is the best value.  I have a friend who has been in the 
appliance repair business since he came up  from underwater, and 
learned to live on dry land (about 1965 or so).  He always knows 
which guts are serviceable and long lived.  Back in the 70s he saw a 
tiny percentage of the kitchenaids sold.


(yes, he was a submariner.)

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Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I went looking at Lowes a little while ago and narrowed it down to 
Bosch, Kitchen and, and a Frigidair.  There were a few whirpool models 
that have the silver ware deal in the door, I kind of like that. I am 
thinking I want one with a stainless steel tub rather than plastic.  
Reading on lowes, the KA one has better reviews than the Bosch, both are 
$599.  Bosch has more cycles, but does not have a food disposal but 
rather a basket thing you have to empty.  Also does not seem to have a 
heated dry cycle.


Rich Thomas wrote:
Buy a Bosch.  They are on the expensive end but well worth it.  Very 
quiet, do a great job, and all stainless steel inside.  I bought one 
about 1.5 yr ago from Lowes, they had some kind of rebate on them, $50 
if I recall.  I think they are made in NC too, so domestic manufacture 
with Deutsche engineering I guess.


I have bought expensive Kitchenaids in the past, the expensive ones 
have the same (poor) guts as the cheap ones.  At one point after going 
through 2 of them I went to some dept store, found a really cheap one 
on the display floor, offered the sales guy $50 less than it was 
priced at,  he said sure, got it for maybe $100 or 150, I wheeled it 
out, put it in, worked same as the expensive one but noisy, plastic 
tub, etc.  I figured if they were generally disposable I would just 
get cheap ones and let them run til they died.  But the Boschs are 
great, much much better than the cheap ones.  They have different 
models with different basket deals that are adjustable or not, wine 
glass racks, etc. and different controls and cycles but you really 
don't need all the cycles.


--R

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I am sick of my 6 year old maytag washer leaving crap all over the 
dishes, which seems to get worse and worse.  Im looking for a new 
one.  Anyone got any to recommend or avoid?




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[MBZ] Pitching deck night landings on an aircraft carrier

2010-03-14 Thread Mountain Man
Someone here has done this, I suspect.

Not just another day at the office...

This is very unnerving, landing with deck pitching 30 feet, at night,
low on fuel.  Incredible.  You will never forget viewing this.  I have
seen a lot of aviation emails but the two videos below are undoubtedly
the best.  Turn on your sound and go full screen.  I guarantee this
will definitely hold your attention.  These videos show the difference
between Naval Aviation and any other kind.  The links below are two
outstanding videos about F-18 carrier operations aboard the USS Nimitz
during weather that causes a severely pitching deck, which you can see
in the videos.  It's more dangerous than most combat missions and the
tension in the pilots and crew is very apparent.  Watch Part 1 first.
Great videos:
Carrier - Landing on a Pitching Deck Pt. 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=4gGMI8d3vLs
Carrier - Landing on a Pitching Deck Pt. 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=S0yj70QbBzg

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Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-14 Thread OK Don
Compare the prices that you find at Lowes with Sears - we found that Sears
was at least $50 lower for the same model.

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 I went looking at Lowes a little while ago and narrowed it down to Bosch,
 Kitchen and, and a Frigidair.  There were a few whirpool models that have
 the silver ware deal in the door, I kind of like that. I am thinking I want
 one with a stainless steel tub rather than plastic.  Reading on lowes, the
 KA one has better reviews than the Bosch, both are $599.  Bosch has more
 cycles, but does not have a food disposal but rather a basket thing you have
 to empty.  Also does not seem to have a heated dry cycle.


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Re: [MBZ] Epic double tranny swap/conversion week

2010-03-14 Thread Peter Frederick
This sort of thing is why I always recommend pulling them both at the  
same time.  By now, you'd be going back in


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Epic double tranny swap/conversion week

2010-03-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Yea, those are a pain to get out. I have had the tranny in/out of that 
light blue 190D in the back about 2 or 3 times.  I think I ended up 
using a MANY extensions to get the ratchet way back behind the tranny in 
the tunnel.  I did also try the unbolting ending and sliding foward 
trick, I dont think it helped too much though.  Well actually,I think 
thats what I ended up having to do to get the tranny off the engine.  On 
the auto at least the converter sits way up inside the flywheel on the 
engine, and in order to get the converter out of where it sits, the 
tranny would hit the back of the firewall before it would clear, so I 
had to slide the engine forward. A PAIN in the rear for sure.


OK Don wrote:

We started yesterday on the standard-auto tranny swap between two '84 190Ds.
So far, we're only one bolt away from removing the standard tranny from the
gold car. But we spent all afternoon today on it, and all we accomplished
was to round the corners of the bolt head. I think we're going to un-bolt
the engine mounts from the frame to slide the engine forward, hoping to get
enough room to pound a 6 sided socket onto the bolt, and hopefully get it
loose. If not, we're probably into pulling the engine to get it out. For
those of you who have BTDT, this is the tranny-engine bolt above the top
starter bolt. I thought that this little engine would be easy to work
on/around. Nope - they shrank the chassis to match.
At this rate, we'll be lucky to have one running car at the end of the week.
Hopefuly, we'll learn something as we go, and it'll get easier, but that's
not my track record ---

OK Don
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Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-14 Thread dave walton
Take apart the bottom filter assembly. There is a small hole that
clogs and causes the accumulated food particles to dump back on the
dishes rather than down the drain.

-Dave Walton


On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote:
 I am sick of my 6 year old maytag washer leaving crap all over the dishes,
 which seems to get worse and worse.  Im looking for a new one.  Anyone got
 any to recommend or avoid?

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 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76
 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com


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Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-14 Thread Rich Thomas
The Bosch gets hot from the water, and you leave the door closed for 
some length of time and it dries the dishes.  i don't think it has a 
separate heat blower to dry them.  The instructions say to leave it 
closed for some length of time.


--R

On 3/14/2010 9:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
I went looking at Lowes a little while ago and narrowed it down to 
Bosch, Kitchen and, and a Frigidair.  There were a few whirpool models 
that have the silver ware deal in the door, I kind of like that. I am 
thinking I want one with a stainless steel tub rather than plastic.  
Reading on lowes, the KA one has better reviews than the Bosch, both 
are $599.  Bosch has more cycles, but does not have a food disposal 
but rather a basket thing you have to empty.  Also does not seem to 
have a heated dry cycle.


Rich Thomas wrote:
Buy a Bosch.  They are on the expensive end but well worth it.  Very 
quiet, do a great job, and all stainless steel inside.  I bought one 
about 1.5 yr ago from Lowes, they had some kind of rebate on them, 
$50 if I recall.  I think they are made in NC too, so domestic 
manufacture with Deutsche engineering I guess.


I have bought expensive Kitchenaids in the past, the expensive ones 
have the same (poor) guts as the cheap ones.  At one point after 
going through 2 of them I went to some dept store, found a really 
cheap one on the display floor, offered the sales guy $50 less than 
it was priced at,  he said sure, got it for maybe $100 or 150, I 
wheeled it out, put it in, worked same as the expensive one but 
noisy, plastic tub, etc.  I figured if they were generally disposable 
I would just get cheap ones and let them run til they died.  But the 
Boschs are great, much much better than the cheap ones.  They have 
different models with different basket deals that are adjustable or 
not, wine glass racks, etc. and different controls and cycles but you 
really don't need all the cycles.


--R

On 3/14/2010 5:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
I am sick of my 6 year old maytag washer leaving crap all over the 
dishes, which seems to get worse and worse.  Im looking for a new 
one.  Anyone got any to recommend or avoid?




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Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-14 Thread Mountain Man
rusty wrote:
 Wash by hand. That is what we do.

We?
What type of fairy are you?
Can I see your dishwater hands?
Very good - I bet Mrs rusty sez you are a wonderful husband, if you do
wash dishes.
We do our dishes by hand also - not me, but us.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Epic double tranny swap/conversion week

2010-03-14 Thread OK Don
Might end up that way - there are way too many tangles fo wires and vacuum
hoses for such a small Diesel engine, built 26 years ago. I still can't see
where the 1/2 inch thick group goes after it disappears under the IP, even
after removing the airbox.

On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote:

 This sort of thing is why I always recommend pulling them both at the same
 time.  By now, you'd be going back in

 Peter


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[MBZ] Kill the alarm

2010-03-14 Thread OK Don
Hoe do I kill the alarm system in the '91 3200E? My wife drove it 2 miles of
residential streets with the horn blaring every other bump - one bump would
sound the alarm, the next would silence it. Needless to say, she now swears
that she'll never get in the car again ---
Is there a black box somewhere that I can just un-plug, like I did in the
SDL?

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Re: [MBZ] Pitching deck night landings on an aircraft carrier

2010-03-14 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:34:47 -0500 Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
wrote:

 Someone here has done this, I suspect.
 
 Not just another day at the office...
 
 This is very unnerving, landing with deck pitching 30 feet, at night,
 low on fuel.  Incredible.  You will never forget viewing this.

I saw these a few months ago. I don't know if they came across this list
or the Veterans list at work. It is incredible.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT, dishwashers

2010-03-14 Thread John Reames

Remember that reviews have favored Toyotas over Mercedes in the past...

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On Mar 14, 2010, at 21:24, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net  
wrote:


I went looking at Lowes a little while ago and narrowed it down to  
Bosch, Kitchen and, and a Frigidair.  There were a few whirpool  
models that have the silver ware deal in the door, I kind of like  
that. I am thinking I want one with a stainless steel tub rather  
than plastic.  Reading on lowes, the KA one has better reviews than  
the Bosch, both are $599.  Bosch has more cycles, but does not have  
a food disposal but rather a basket thing you have to empty.  Also  
does not seem to have a heated dry cycle.


Rich Thomas wrote:
Buy a Bosch.  They are on the expensive end but well worth it.   
Very quiet, do a great job, and all stainless steel inside.  I  
bought one about 1.5 yr ago from Lowes, they had some kind of  
rebate on them, $50 if I recall.  I think they are made in NC too,  
so domestic manufacture with Deutsche engineering I guess.


I have bought expensive Kitchenaids in the past, the expensive ones  
have the same (poor) guts as the cheap ones.  At one point after  
going through 2 of them I went to some dept store, found a really  
cheap one on the display floor, offered the sales guy $50 less than  
it was priced at,  he said sure, got it for maybe $100 or 150, I  
wheeled it out, put it in, worked same as the expensive one but  
noisy, plastic tub, etc.  I figured if they were generally  
disposable I would just get cheap ones and let them run til they  
died.  But the Boschs are great, much much better than the cheap  
ones.  They have different models with different basket deals that  
are adjustable or not, wine glass racks, etc. and different  
controls and cycles but you really don't need all the cycles.


--R

On 3/14/2010 5:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
I am sick of my 6 year old maytag washer leaving crap all over the  
dishes, which seems to get worse and worse.  Im looking for a new  
one.  Anyone got any to recommend or avoid?




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[MBZ] Dishwashers

2010-03-14 Thread Jerry Herrman
Before discarding that old Maytag I suggest the following if you have hard 
water in your area:

1. Clean out your filter if it has one.

2. Check to be sure that it is draining properly by opening the door after a 
drain cycle (before it re-fills) to see if all of the water is being drained 
out. If water remains, it will result in dirty looking dishes. Another good 
time to check this is before you add a fresh load.

3. Run a product intended to remove hard water deposits through the cycle. 
There are various products for removing lime-scale-rust. I buy a gallon for 
this and the bathroom/tub/shower.

4. After this cleaning cycle, clean out your filter again.

5. Use a fresh, name brand dishwashing product for awhile to see if this makes 
a difference. Old product doesn't dissolve properly.

Alternative to #3. Use citric acid. This forum has had much discussion on the 
use of citric acid in cleaning the  cooling system of our engines.Citric acid 
works well when it is hot. I've never used it myself in a dishwasher. I would 
think it is more green than a typical chemical product.
Good old fashioned vinegar is also good for dissolving hard water deposits. A 
cup or two in a normal cycle, repeat as necessary. REALLY green.

Jerry Herrman
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Re: [MBZ] Kill the alarm

2010-03-14 Thread Alex Chamberlain
3200E?  Is that a 32-liter six?  Must have a heck of a lot of torque.  ;)

Hopefully it's the same as my '86 and '87 124s---in both of which
there was indeed a black box under the front passenger side carpet and
black sound-deadening pad (which may be sticky but does come up if you
pull hard enough).  Unplug the connector, problem solved.  Now you can
remove the alarm siren from the left inner fender, too, which on
diesels makes access to the glow plug relay and transmission vacuum
stuff a little easier.

Alex


On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 8:17 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hoe do I kill the alarm system in the '91 3200E? My wife drove it 2 miles of
 residential streets with the horn blaring every other bump - one bump would
 sound the alarm, the next would silence it. Needless to say, she now swears
 that she'll never get in the car again ---
 Is there a black box somewhere that I can just un-plug, like I did in the
 SDL?

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