Re: [MBZ] too bad Dan lives in Florida now...

2012-01-02 Thread Dan Penoff
That same cold front is going to push almost all the way down here, giving us low temps on Tuesday night in the 30s, which is really cold for this area. This means the locals will be out in parkas and extreme cold weather gear. A light jacket for me, thank you. As someone mentioned, look

Re: [MBZ] too bad Dan lives in Florida now...

2012-01-02 Thread Gerry Archer
Thanks for the tip. I'll be ready for it. Don't usually look at weather reports. BTW, do you know of a PnP in the Tampabay area that has 123s? Thanks, Gerry From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com That same cold front is going to push almost all the way down here, giving us low temps on Tuesday

Re: [MBZ] OT Magnum

2012-01-02 Thread Max
Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes: this guy was sitting there in a Dodge Magnum that was in beautiful condition. The car itself is rather disastrous from a styling standpoint Disastrous is being kind... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD

Re: [MBZ] Bosch cross ref.

2012-01-02 Thread Rusty Cullens
I have a cross reference, give me the Bosch numbers and I'll let you know. Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. www.buyMBparts.biz www.buyEUROparts.biz www.buyASIANparts.biz Tel/ 1-800-741-5252 Fax/ 770-454-9745 ICQ 427542441 AIM BuyMBparts - Original Message - From: Fred Moir

Re: [MBZ] too bad Dan lives in Florida now...

2012-01-02 Thread Mitch Haley
Dan Penoff wrote: Never seen a 617 without one, although I am sure they exist. I never looked, but my 1979 300SD still had the free engine heater coupon with the owner's manual, so I doubt it has a heater installed. Originally delivered in Georgia, spent most of its life in Florida. Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] Bosch cross ref.

2012-01-02 Thread Fred Moir
Craig, et al. Car is a W123.193, 1985 300TD. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 1/1/2012 11:56 PM, Craig wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 22:05:52 -0500 Fred Moirfred.s...@verizon.net wrote: Dan, et al. I found a German website that listed my Bosch part #s for a W123 280E '77-'86. To try

Re: [MBZ] too bad Dan lives in Florida now...

2012-01-02 Thread Dan Penoff
The only PnP I know of has never had much of anything foreign/high line. For that matter, they have changed hands and are now part of a national chain, so I am clueless about what they might or might not have. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Jan 2, 2012, at 7:47 AM, Gerry Archer

Re: [MBZ] Bosch cross ref.

2012-01-02 Thread Fred Moir
Rusty. This is extraordinarily generous of you, thanks. Bosch #'s are:- 1 305 235 039 L 1 305 235 051 R My car is a W123.193 1985 300TD. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred On 1/2/2012 9:59 AM, Rusty Cullens wrote: I have a cross reference, give me the Bosch numbers and I'll let you know.

Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

2012-01-02 Thread Randy Bennell
The usual legal argument is that you have the right to use reasonable force to defend yourself. His error was shooting the bad guy another 5 times. That showed obvious anger and intent to harm the bad guy. If he had left well enough alone, he likely would not have been charged for shooting the

Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

2012-01-02 Thread Peter Hertzing
I'm no lawyer but the video sure shows excessive force. Not sure what angle the defense uses but temporary insanity would sure have worked better around here then the he had it coming defense. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 2, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: The

Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

2012-01-02 Thread Rich Thomas
Meanwhile, in Oklahoma, another upstanding citizen reaps the wages of his pursuits: http://www.koco.com/news/30114963/detail.html And his friend looks quite a real prize too. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

2012-01-02 Thread G Mann
I do not agree. obvious anger and intent comment fails to take into effect the trauma of being confronted with imminent death by the now deceased assailant. A lawyer who properly represented his wrongfully charged client could and should have made a strong and effective case of the total fear and

Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

2012-01-02 Thread Randy Bennell
You can not agree all you want but the bottom line is that you are entitled to defend yourself in a reasonable manner with a reasonable amount of force. If you go beyond what is considered to be reasonable, then you may end up paying the price for your actions. Shoot the bad guy once and no one

Re: [MBZ] Continuing the OM603 head replacment saga

2012-01-02 Thread Max Dillon
Dieselhead, was it you that recommended using the evil fluid aka gasoline to check the valve seat seals? Someone recommended testing the seal of the valve against the seat with gasoline; if the seal can hold the gasoline then no need to grind. This a.m. I did that test, and three out of six will

Re: [MBZ] Continuing the OM603 head replacment saga

2012-01-02 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 2, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: So, do I install this head as is, or take it to a shop for a valve job? If the guides are within spec (using a dial indicator or other correct method) I would lap the valves and call it good. Rick Sent from my ATT

Re: [MBZ] Continuing the OM603 head replacment saga

2012-01-02 Thread Max Dillon
Rick, thanks. Where can I learn how to lap valves? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rick Knoble Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 2:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Continuing the OM603 head

Re: [MBZ] too bad Dan lives in Florida now...

2012-01-02 Thread Fmiser
Dan Penoff wrote: As someone mentioned, look forward and above the starter on your 300SD. You may not have the cable, but I bet the heater is there. Never seen a 617 without one, although I am sure they exist. They do. I have installed block heaters on two cars. Both OM617. -- Philip

Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

2012-01-02 Thread G Mann
It's easy to Monday morning quarterback the incident on tape. What is not easy is to put yourself in the mans shoes. Have you ever been shot at from close range? Just how threatened would you be if two armed guys, intent on shooting you, simply started shooting directly at you? Would you, at

Re: [MBZ] Continuing the OM603 head replacment saga

2012-01-02 Thread Peter Frederick
If you can feel movement of the valves in the guides AT ALL they are way oversize. Spec is 0.02 to 0.05mm new, you cannot feel that at all. In fact, if the valves won't stay up in the guide against the seat with the spring out the guides are shot and need to be replaced. You will have

Re: [MBZ] too bad Dan lives in Florida now...

2012-01-02 Thread Curt Raymond
My '81 300TD didn't have one. The owner before me (a good friend) got one put in during a particularly cold winter. My '78 240D didn't have one either. I had one put in fall 2010. -Curt Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 07:24:38 -0500 From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] Continuing the OM603 head replacment saga

2012-01-02 Thread Max Dillon
Peter, Thanks, I'll see if I can check that with my dial indicator. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 2:28 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] OT Guns and idiots don't mix

2012-01-02 Thread Curt Raymond
Sheesh, http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20220102kin_want_probe_in_moms_shooting_staties_off-duty_trooper_accidentally_wounded_norton_woman_while_hunting/srvc=homeposition=4 More proof of my contention that many of our finest are absolute morons. -Curt --- On Sun, 1/1/12, Curt

[MBZ] Working on the '95 E320

2012-01-02 Thread Craig
I went to change the thermostat and oil and filter this past weekend and made three discoveries: 1. The car still has its belly pan! 2. The thermostat is MUCH easier to change than that on the E420; easier, even, than our 240D/3.0. It's on top at the front of the engine. 3. The oil filter

Re: [MBZ] OT: Energy Victory?

2012-01-02 Thread Curt Raymond
I get what you're saying but would counter that we should end all subsidies for air travel. We spend more on airports per annum than we've spent on Amtrak total, without even beginning to talk about security. Air travel should pay for itself, otherwise its not viable. Airline tickets are

Re: [MBZ] OT: Energy Victory?

2012-01-02 Thread Curt Raymond
If we're talking about Phoenix then all the numbers seem to be doubled. According to Wikipedia as of 2011 there are 20 miles of light rail that originally cost around $1.4 billion. Apparently theres some State Transit Plan in the works which would include some commuter rail. Anyway I'd want

Re: [MBZ] W123 300TD - starts and dies - SOLVED!!

2012-01-02 Thread andrew strasfogel
There are no leaks that I can see but I will do so any way On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com writes: Yep. When I unscrewed fully and started pumping, fuel overflowed immediately, around the hand pump. Doesn't that

Re: [MBZ] OT: Energy Victory?

2012-01-02 Thread Allan Streib
I would counter, does a debt approaching 20 TRILLION dollars makes sense for the items you've listed? Yes, people who use air travel (passengers and freight shippers) should pay the cost. We will as a population pick up some of that naturally in the increased cost of shipped goods. No

Re: [MBZ] OT Magnum

2012-01-02 Thread Curt Raymond
I had to look that up, all I could think of was the station wagon from a few years ago. Turns out a friend had one just after we graduated from High school. His was mighty hard on starters. If the engine was hot it wouldn't crank. Replace the starter and it'd be good for a few months but pretty

[MBZ] Need code for Becker model 780 AM/FM cassette

2012-01-02 Thread andrew strasfogel
Other than taking it to the dealer, is there a way to obtain a code for my Becker radio? The serial no. is V 9015286. TIA, Andrew ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Continuing the OM603 head replacment saga

2012-01-02 Thread Rick Knoble
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhXsH12Rg6sfeature=youtube_gdata_player You need the tool (basically a wooden dowel with rubber suction cups) and valve lapping compound. Valve lapping compound is made from tungsten carbide or some such thing. It is extremely hard and extremely abrasive. Do NOT

Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

2012-01-02 Thread Curt Raymond
I'm with Grant on this one, the red curtain comes down and some people wake up later thinking What the hell happened? I've read many reports of people getting off. The he had it coming defense is just stupid. Its the second magazine that did it. I can vaugely remember a similar case (might

Re: [MBZ] Continuing the OM603 head replacment saga

2012-01-02 Thread Max
Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: If you can feel movement of the valves in the guides AT ALL they are way oversize. Spec is 0.02 to 0.05mm new, you cannot feel that at all. In fact, if the valves won't stay up in the guide against the seat with the spring out the guides are

Re: [MBZ] Continuing the OM603 head replacment saga

2012-01-02 Thread Curt Raymond
Max, I don't have anything in the way of real knowledge to add here but I'd get the valve job priced out and if it wasn't huge I'd probably go ahead and do it. I wouldn't want to get the head installed and find out I should have done it... -Curt Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 13:46:25 -0500 From: Max

Re: [MBZ] Need code for Becker model 780 AM/FM cassette

2012-01-02 Thread buymbparts
Call Tom tomorrow and he can get it for you. I'll be back Wednesday. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Sender: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 15:07:04 To: Mercedes Discussion

Re: [MBZ] Continuing the OM603 head replacment saga

2012-01-02 Thread Max
Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhXsH12Rg6sfeature=youtube_gdata_player You need the tool (basically a wooden dowel with rubber suction cups) and valve lapping compound. Thanks Rick. Looks like I'll probably be taking this head to a shop, perhaps I'll

[MBZ] Chrysler 200

2012-01-02 Thread Curt Raymond
I'm in Greenville, SC this week, drove out from Charlotte this morning in a Chrysler 200 and I'll be dammed but I actually kinda like that little car. Its ugly but its reasonably comfortable. I think its got a 4cyl but I haven't popped the hood yet. It kicks out of OD on the highway a lot,

Re: [MBZ] Continuing the OM603 head replacment saga

2012-01-02 Thread Max Dillon
Curt, I think you're right, I'm probably going to end up taking this to a local shop. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 3:15 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ]

Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

2012-01-02 Thread Allan Streib
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I'm with Grant on this one, the red curtain comes down and some people wake up later thinking What the hell happened? I've read many reports of people getting off. The he had it coming defense is just stupid. If you watch the movie

Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

2012-01-02 Thread Mitch Haley
G Mann wrote: It's easy to Monday morning quarterback the incident on tape. What is not easy is to put yourself in the mans shoes. Have you ever been shot at from close range? Just how threatened would you be if two armed guys, intent on shooting you, simply started shooting directly at you?

Re: [MBZ] OT: Energy Victory?

2012-01-02 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: Does Social Engineering include museums, aquariums and the like? I'm fairly libertarian but I do see where much of that contributes to the common good, in the same way public schools do, or should anyway. I think he was talking about using the tax codes for social

Re: [MBZ] Continuing the OM603 head replacment saga

2012-01-02 Thread Peter Frederick
The specs for 61x engines is ZERO to 0.02 mm (0.0005). Yes, that's correct, about 0.0005. They aren't going to wear TIGHT, after all, and have to seal against exhaust pressure. If the oiled valve stem will go into the guide and the spring will close it, it's fine. They will NOT usually

Re: [MBZ] OT: Energy Victory?

2012-01-02 Thread Curt Raymond
I agree, we have no money but its not as easy as saying we'll just stop paying for everything you can't just turn off the tap. You know about how people get broken out into hedgehogs and foxes? Foxes like to speak in soundbites, everything is easy and simple one liners. Hedgehogs explain, they

Re: [MBZ] W123 300TD - starts and dies - SOLVED!!

2012-01-02 Thread Curt Raymond
WHAT? Andrew, seriously... You said When I unscrewed fully and started pumping, fuel overflowed immediately that, my friend, is a leak. Its not supposed to happen and it perfectly explains the complaint you had, whats going on here? Are you just messing with us? -Curt Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012

Re: [MBZ] OT: Energy Victory?

2012-01-02 Thread Allan Streib
I'd not argue that we need to let children starve in order to fix our financial problems. I'd argue this is better handled at the state a and local levels, but anyway AFDC is not a big part of the problem. These appeal-to-sympathy straw man arguments are part of the reason we are in such a

Re: [MBZ] W123 300TD - starts and dies - SOLVED!!

2012-01-02 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
On both my 123 240D and 115 220D fuel spills out around the hand pump shortly after pumping. They've been doing that for years. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 2, 2012, at 3:55 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: WHAT? Andrew, seriously... You said When I unscrewed fully and started

Re: [MBZ] Chrysler 200

2012-01-02 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jan 2, 2012 12:24 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: , Chrysler hasn't made a good small car since the Neon and they weren't exactly anything to crow about. The 200 is a midsize by modern standards. Replaces the Avenger/Sebring. The Dart coming out for the 2013 model year is the

Re: [MBZ] Chrysler 200

2012-01-02 Thread Max
Only half a days drive to Charleston, come on down! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] W123 300TD - starts and dies - SOLVED!!

2012-01-02 Thread Fmiser
andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com writes: Yep. When I unscrewed fully and started pumping, fuel overflowed immediately, around the hand pump. Curt Raymond wrote: ...it means your hand pump leaks. Fmiser wrote: More significant that fuel leaking OUT is that

Re: [MBZ] Chrysler 200

2012-01-02 Thread Rich Thomas
You should go do the BMW factory tour --R On 1/2/12 3:24 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I'm in Greenville, SC this week, drove out from Charlotte this morning in a Chrysler 200 and I'll be dammed but I actually kinda like that little car. Its ugly but its reasonably comfortable. I think its got a

Re: [MBZ] W123 300TD - starts and dies - SOLVED!!

2012-01-02 Thread Fmiser
Dimitri Seretakis wrote: On both my 123 240D and 115 220D fuel spills out around the hand pump shortly after pumping. They've been doing that for years. And if the fuel leaks out, air can leak in. This is not good. I advise replacing it with the new style. Mercedes part number

Re: [MBZ] OT Magnum

2012-01-02 Thread Rich Thomas
This one was gray with black accents (or something), the paint was nice but what it was on was sorta eye-numbing. --R On 1/2/12 3:06 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: I had to look that up, all I could think of was the station wagon from a few years ago. Turns out a friend had one just after we

Re: [MBZ] OT Guns and idiots don't mix

2012-01-02 Thread Rich Thomas
Wonder if they bothered to check his BAL, you know, like they would to you or me... --R On 1/2/12 2:46 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Sheesh,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Energy Victory?

2012-01-02 Thread Curt Raymond
Sheesh I'd plum forgotten how we encourage home ownership (and inadvertently encourage larger homes), it'd be hilarious (from an irony point of view) to use my idea to encourage people to give up on home ownership while still encouraging home ownership... -Curt Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 15:45:25

Re: [MBZ] OT Magnum

2012-01-02 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jan 1, 2012 7:51 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I had not seen one of those things in like 30 years. I don't think I've ever seen one, but I remember well its successor, the Mirada (and the scathing review of it in Car Driver that ridiculed Chrysler's attempt

Re: [MBZ] OT: Energy Victory?

2012-01-02 Thread Curt Raymond
I'd argue that we're in a jam because our idiot legislators (of all political stripes) have decided that compromise means You give up and give me what I want which of course neither side is willing to do. So rather than getting balanced legislation the parties wait until they have a lock and

Re: [MBZ] W123 300TD - starts and dies - SOLVED!!

2012-01-02 Thread Curt Raymond
You've got broken handpumps, they shouldn't do that. I've had 3 123 cars, none had leaking handpumps. Come and get the one off my '83... -Curt Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 13:09:03 -0800 (PST) From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re:

Re: [MBZ] Chrysler 200

2012-01-02 Thread Curt Raymond
I suppose you're right. They've got the Fiat 500 for the micro-mini too. Speaking of which, I've never driven one but I have ridden in one, they are a hoot. Crazy little car, hope we get the Abarth version. -Curt Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 13:17:45 -0800 From: Alex Chamberlain

Re: [MBZ] Chrysler 200

2012-01-02 Thread Curt Raymond
Sadly I'm here for work. Get your local TV station to buy Avid systems (specifically ISIS without Interplay) and I might be the trainer and get shipped in. -Curt Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:19:53 -0500 From: Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Continuing the OM603 head replacment saga

2012-01-02 Thread Max Dillon
OK, I measured six valves at the head, found 0.007 for the tightest and 0.020 for the sloppiest. Accounting for the distance from the guide by dividing by two would still put them all outside of the spec you referenced. Where can I find that specification? Looks like time for a professional shop

Re: [MBZ] W123 300TD - starts and dies - SOLVED!!

2012-01-02 Thread andrew strasfogel
There is no fuel leaking from around the hand pump when driving or with the car at rest. My thinking is that when I pumped the primer pump into a system that didn't need priming, the fuel already in the system had nowhere to go but spill ll over the place. Until then, I had only use the pump

Re: [MBZ] W123 300TD - starts and dies - SOLVED!!

2012-01-02 Thread Craig
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 17:12:34 -0500 andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: There is no fuel leaking from around the hand pump when driving or with the car at rest. My thinking is that when I pumped the primer pump into a system that didn't need priming, the fuel already in the system

Re: [MBZ] Chrysler 200

2012-01-02 Thread Curt Raymond
Is that what that is? I drove by today and wondered... I'll see about it. -Curt Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2012 16:26:45 -0500 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Chrysler 200 Message-ID:

Re: [MBZ] W123 300TD - starts and dies - SOLVED!!

2012-01-02 Thread Curt Raymond
Ahh but that forgets the function of the cigar hose which is to send fuel on its route back to the tank. There should be no leakage, you know the filter is full because you hear the overflow valve rattle as you pump and fuel starts returning to the tank. -Curt Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 17:12:34

Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

2012-01-02 Thread G Mann
Sorry, I didn't make my point apparently. Thanks for bringing it better in focus. The issue I see is the standard for criminal charges is quite high. It requires beyond all reasonable doubt. It is my considered opinion that standard is NOT met by the video. The fact that it appears the store

Re: [MBZ] OT: One less repeat offender

2012-01-02 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Thanks and please keep us updated on the outcome of this case. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott Ritchey Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 9:35 AM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: One

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2012-01-02 Thread Greg Fiorentino
It looks like a new one could be machined from Aluminum (6061 alloy would be good) or machinable plastic. PEEK is an expensive but easily machineable plastic that is temperature resistant to 250 C. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2012-01-02 Thread Craig
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 14:32:53 -0800 Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: It looks like a new one could be machined from Aluminum (6061 alloy would be good) or machinable plastic. PEEK is an expensive but easily machineable plastic that is temperature resistant to 250 C. If you do get

Re: [MBZ] OT: Energy Victory?

2012-01-02 Thread G Mann
I'll take that challenge, TYVM.. Let's compare the total numbers of passengers for each, on a passenger to dollar ratio. I'm betting the factual cost per passenger mile traveled and seat sold is far greater by train, in public dollars expended. Further, the greatest consumer of fuel [besides

Re: [MBZ] Carburetor Trouble

2012-01-02 Thread G Mann
Might be worth a try at your FLAP in the help isle. Look for a choke conversion kit to give you either replacement parts for the automatic choke OR an actual mechanical arm to choke cable. If it's not on the isle, could be worth a search through the parts books. I suggest a NAPA store might yield

Re: [MBZ] Continuing the OM603 head replacment saga

2012-01-02 Thread Peter Frederick
Service manual. I'll email you the one when I find it. Peter On Jan 2, 2012, at 3:55 PM, Max Dillon wrote: OK, I measured six valves at the head, found 0.007 for the tightest and 0.020 for the sloppiest. Accounting for the distance from the guide by dividing by two would still put them

Re: [MBZ] Continuing the OM603 head replacment saga

2012-01-02 Thread Peter Frederick
I sent it to you off list, let me know if it doesn't arrive. Peter On Jan 2, 2012, at 3:55 PM, Max Dillon wrote: OK, I measured six valves at the head, found 0.007 for the tightest and 0.020 for the sloppiest. Accounting for the distance from the guide by dividing by two would still put

Re: [MBZ] Continuing the OM603 head replacment saga

2012-01-02 Thread Max Dillon
Procedure 05-285 covers checking and replacing the valve guides, it says that the intake guide inner diameter is 8.000mm to 8.030, exhaust is 9.000 to 9.050. Is that the spec Peter's referring to? I measured a couple of the valve stem diameters, found them to be about 0.05mm less than the guide

Re: [MBZ] Continuing the OM603 head replacment saga

2012-01-02 Thread Max Dillon
Got it, thanks! -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 6:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Continuing the OM603 head replacment saga I sent it to

Re: [MBZ] Continuing the OM603 head replacment saga

2012-01-02 Thread Peter Frederick
Look in the column labeled overlap -- that's the clearance between the valve diameter and guide diameter. They have to be measured and fit individually, although usually MB guides are just about perfect out of the box. Peter On Jan 2, 2012, at 5:10 PM, Max Dillon wrote: Got it, thanks!

Re: [MBZ] OT: Energy Victory?

2012-01-02 Thread Curt Raymond
Isn't this a chicken/egg thing? We have lousy rail service so nobody wants to ride it so our costs per passenger are high. The answer is simply more passengers but that requires making rail travel better which requires money... Example, the Accela Express between Boston and NYC, I've ridden it

Re: [MBZ] Continuing the OM603 head replacment saga

2012-01-02 Thread Craig
On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 18:09:24 -0500 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Procedure 05-285 covers checking and replacing the valve guides, it says that the intake guide inner diameter is 8.000mm to 8.030, exhaust is 9.000 to 9.050. Is that the spec Peter's referring to? I measured a

Re: [MBZ] OT: Energy Victory?

2012-01-02 Thread Peter Frederick
We don't have affordable or adequate rail because we CHOSE to spend vast sums of money on air service instead, starting in the late 40's. Mail came off the express trains in the early 60s and killed of what was left of express service to keep the airlines operating. The airlines have

Re: [MBZ] W123 300TD - starts and dies - SOLVED!!

2012-01-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If it leaks when pumping you need a new one Sent from my iPhone On Jan 2, 2012, at 4:12 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: There is no fuel leaking from around the hand pump when driving or with the car at rest. My thinking is that when I pumped the primer pump into a system

Re: [MBZ] Continuing the OM603 head replacment saga

2012-01-02 Thread Peter Frederick
The correction was for measuring side play at the end of the valve, not the diameters. If you have a proper gauge and can measure the inner diameter of the guide you can calculate the clearance directly, but it requires a proper tool. NOT dial calipers Peter On Jan 2, 2012, at 5:28

Re: [MBZ] W123 300TD - starts and dies - SOLVED!!

2012-01-02 Thread Peter Frederick
It won't leak screwed down, it only has suction applied to the seal. Leaks air in, not fuel out. Only leaks fuel when you pull up the plunger and press down, when it leaks around the piston seal. Peter On Jan 2, 2012, at 5:34 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: If it leaks when pumping you

Re: [MBZ] OT: Energy Victory?

2012-01-02 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: I'd argue that we're in a jam because our idiot legislators (of all political stripes) have decided that compromise means You give up and give me what I want I thought political compromise meant I'll vote for your garbage bill if you'll vote for mine, or If you hold the

Re: [MBZ] W123 300TD - starts and dies - SOLVED!!

2012-01-02 Thread Mitch Haley
andrew strasfogel wrote: There is no fuel leaking from around the hand pump when driving or with the car at rest. That's because it's not under pressure, it's under partial vacuum. As you have been told by several different people in the last couple of days, air can (and almost certainly

Re: [MBZ] OT: compaq/hp won't boot

2012-01-02 Thread Allan Streib
Ugh. Well I picked up a new power supply today, installed it, and now the original symptoms have returned. All fans on, no video. I even tried switching the power supply with my wife's computer again, just to rule out the off chance that I got a bad one out of the box. So it seems that the

Re: [MBZ] W123 300TD - starts and dies - SOLVED!!

2012-01-02 Thread Allan Streib
Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net writes: It won't leak screwed down, it only has suction applied to the seal. Leaks air in, not fuel out. Only leaks fuel when you pull up the plunger and press down, when it leaks around the piston seal. The one on my 300SD leaked when pumping, when I

Re: [MBZ] OT: compaq/hp won't boot

2012-01-02 Thread Peter Frederick
Probably bad capacitors on the MB, allowing the CPU power supply to cook the processor. A new processor will only last until it gets cooked, too. You can try unplugging everything but the MB and hard drive, too. Peter On Jan 2, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Ugh. Well I picked up

Re: [MBZ] OT: compaq/hp won't boot

2012-01-02 Thread Allan Streib
That would only be the DVD drive, on this computer. So assuming bad caps on the motherboard and a cooked or nearly cooked CPU, there's really nothing more worth doing here, the way I see it. Get a new board and CPU, swap the drives and RAM? I can probably pick up a surplus 3-year-old Dell at the

Re: [MBZ] OT: compaq/hp won't boot

2012-01-02 Thread Peter Frederick
I put a used MB in my brother's computer last year for this reason -- when I could get it to boot, the CPU was running very hot just looking at the bios setup. Either a different MB (you may then need new memory) or a replacement is probably the best course. I did swap out the DVD drive

Re: [MBZ] OT: compaq/hp won't boot

2012-01-02 Thread Mountain Man
Allan wrote: I can probably pick up a surplus 3-year-old Dell at the university for cheap. I have bought stuff from these guys several times. Jaime used to know the main guy years ago - Jaime? www.computertradeexchange.com/ - Reseller of Obslete Computer Parts. mao

[MBZ] arduino project idea: ACC servo replacement

2012-01-02 Thread Allan Streib
I'm really thinking of attempting an arduino project to replace the ACC servo/amp in the W116. I don't know if I can do it for less than the unwired tools kit ($700) if I put a value on my time but the learning experience would be worth it I think. Looking at these vacuum controllers. Any

Re: [MBZ] W123 300TD - starts and dies - SOLVED!!

2012-01-02 Thread andrew strasfogel
As mentioned earlier, I will order one tomorrow. On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net writes: It won't leak screwed down, it only has suction applied to the seal. Leaks air in, not fuel out. Only leaks fuel when you

Re: [MBZ] Continuing the OM603 head replacment saga

2012-01-02 Thread Max Dillon
Peter, So the MB guides have the inner diameter correct out of the box? All the shop needs to do is remove the old guide, bore out the head if required, and then install the new guide (oversize repair guide if head is bored out)? I was under the impression that the new guide would need to be

Re: [MBZ] Continuing the OM603 head replacment saga

2012-01-02 Thread Dieselhead
It was. I'd call that a pass. There is often crud that will allow a slow leak (or a fast one) You might want to lap the valves. Dieselhead, was it you that recommended using the evil fluid aka gasoline to check the valve seat seals? Someone recommended testing the seal of the valve

Re: [MBZ] Continuing the OM603 head replacment saga

2012-01-02 Thread Dieselhead
Go to local MB stealers/shops and ask what machine shops they use. GO to that one. Show them the spec, and inform them you will be measuring it before it leaves their control, and that if any one is out of spec, they will be doing it over or you will not pay them. No use paying a shop not

Re: [MBZ] W123 300TD - starts and dies - SOLVED!!

2012-01-02 Thread Dieselhead
Any problems starting? Long cranking before it will fire? Leaking fuel out means it will leak air IN. The hand pump that leaks fuel does not always let air in, but everyone I have had that leaked eventually lets air in. In one period of a couple years I replaced a bunch of them. On

Re: [MBZ] Continuing the OM603 head replacment saga

2012-01-02 Thread Rick Knoble
On Jan 2, 2012, at 9:58 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: No use paying a shop not familiar with MB to do a screwup job. Because a regular machine shop will think those specs are crazy and do it their way anyway. Rick Sent from my ATT rotary phone

Re: [MBZ] Continuing the OM603 head replacment saga

2012-01-02 Thread Max
Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Go to local MB stealers/shops and ask what machine shops they use. GO to that one. Show them the spec, and inform them you will be measuring it before it leaves their control, and that if any one is out of spec, they will be doing it over or you will not

Re: [MBZ] OT: Energy Victory?

2012-01-02 Thread G Mann
Bottom line: We are in a mess, we have relied on criminal idiots to represent us citizens for past 15 decades, and they have failed everyone except themselves. Can it be fixed? Yes, but not without expending blood and treasure which few are willing to spend. Best guess: What every happens,

[MBZ] First year 140 rodbender, what could possibly go wrong?

2012-01-02 Thread Alex Chamberlain
http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/cto/2774898208.html I sent an email out immediately asking about service records and/or engine replacement, but I don't hold out much hope for useful info. Windows and sunroof are power and work well. (But everything else is broken.) Please tell me that's an

Re: [MBZ] Continuing the OM603 head replacment saga

2012-01-02 Thread Max
Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: If you are measuring DIAMETERS, you don't need the factor of two. Craig, I think the factor of two is needed because I'm measuring play at the valve head, which is a little over 40mm away from the guide. The guide itself is about 40mm long. If the play

[MBZ] Frankengumpy project fun

2012-01-02 Thread Alex Chamberlain
From the same seller: http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/2771395461.html http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/cto/2778253110.html Probably largely rust-free, if they are long-time West Coast cars. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

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