Re: [MBZ] No cross pollination
By your reasoning, you and the other computer engineers shouldn't be able to diagnose and fix mechanical problems on cars, yet you usually can. If you bought a used hybrid, I don't think it would be long before you were fixing it. Several banks are using Windows to run their ATMs. Probably won't be long before Windows will be running hybrids. (g) Gerry From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com Ask a civil engineer to design a rocket engine. He's an engineer after all! :P Walt On Jun 3, 2012 1:46 AM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...I'm surprised that some of the computer professionals on the list haven't bought a hybrid since they could probably diagnose and fix a highly computerized car. Apples and kumquats. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hyundai Sonata suddenly accelerates against driver's will to 80 mph
- Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hyundai Sonata suddenly accelerates against driver's will to 80 mph Some cars, the ignition and/or engine stop button just send a request to the computer. Same for the shift lever. I think a big red Emergency shutoff pushbutton switch should be mounted in the center of the steering wheel of those POS fly by wire vehicles. Another reason I don't want a toada. If I owned one of those, I'd put an emergency shutoff push and lock switch within easy reach. Dirtbikes used to have a bracelet you wore. If you left the bike, the bracelet pulled a pin and that killed the ignition. Too bad all these programmer geniuses in the auto industry can't think of a similar system. If they ever do, it will be overcomplicated, and cost $1832 per car. It ought to cost under $10 and be simple. Funny they gummit makes filling stations have an emergency shutoff, but a 4000 lb missile flying under fly by wire needs no safety. Every industrial machine has to have an emergency shutoff and a manual disconnect within easy reach, or requires two hands in position before the drive will engage, and while the machine is operating, but not even a 25¢ switch for cars. If I bought one (which is unlikely) I would put some kind of kill switch on it; possibly on the power supply to the coil(s) and mount it within reach. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OCR recommendation
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 8:36 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Can someone suggest a simple and reliable OCR program that will work on Windows XP using a Canon mp250 printer? Have a stack of printouts by Marshall I'd like to put on disc. Google is your friend: http://www.groovypost.com/howto/google-docs-ocr-digitize-old-documents/ It's the same technology they use for Google Books so it's probably pretty hardy by now. [Originally the API maxed out at about a page, so you might want to restrict input to that if you run in to issues.] Best, -Tim --- Thanks, Tim, I'll give it a try tomorrow and report back. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No cross pollination
I guess I didn't provide enough evidence of the sarcasm and funniness that I was trying to convey, haha. :) :D :p I'm an EE with ME background and embedded systems experience, so at least on paper I could do some of the work. I'd likely devise my own control circuitry or hijack the existing to do my will... It has been shown that a Prius without the nany-limits on starting torque can do an impressive 0-60 time. And I HATE the BofA ATM machines... The one closest to my house has never had a touch screen calibration or even the dignity of the windows sounds being changed... Walt On Jun 3, 2012 4:03 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: By your reasoning, you and the other computer engineers shouldn't be able to diagnose and fix mechanical problems on cars, yet you usually can. If you bought a used hybrid, I don't think it would be long before you were fixing it. Several banks are using Windows to run their ATMs. Probably won't be long before Windows will be running hybrids. (g) Gerry From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com Ask a civil engineer to design a rocket engine. He's an engineer after all! :P Walt On Jun 3, 2012 1:46 AM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...I'm surprised that some of the computer professionals on the list haven't bought a hybrid since they could probably diagnose and fix a highly computerized car. Apples and kumquats. RLE __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No cross pollination
Walt Zarnoch wrote: And I HATE the BofA ATM machines... The one closest to my house has never had a touch screen calibration or even the dignity of the windows sounds being changed... I wonder how many folks find the default MS Win sounds to be comforting because they are familiar. Some people reportedly even like elevator music!! **shudder** -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No cross pollination
Those sounds are the FIRST thing to get turned off when I do a windows install. They make me want to cut speaker wires... Sometimes I even replace them with blank files... Walt On Jun 3, 2012 4:53 AM, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Walt Zarnoch wrote: And I HATE the BofA ATM machines... The one closest to my house has never had a touch screen calibration or even the dignity of the windows sounds being changed... I wonder how many folks find the default MS Win sounds to be comforting because they are familiar. Some people reportedly even like elevator music!! **shudder** -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coolant question (related to my Jeep cooling system work)
Dex-cool sludge? -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jun 3, 2012, at 0:23, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Thank for the suggestions. Where I live, I don't have the option for a garden hose to run for 20-30 minutes. What I have done instead is to pour gallon jugs of water through the heater core radiator, and engine. I am not sure if the garden hose has enough pressure to make the process go faster than pouring gallons in by hand. The problem has been the coolant is still getting dirty. I don't think the engine is making rust, but there must be some sticking to parts that is slowly coming out. Similar to how synthetic oil can clean out an engine over time. The weird part is how the coolant separates, with the heater core or expansion tank seeming to have more rusty water than the radiator. I think this must happen after the engine cools off. I would think the water pump moves the coolant around enough that it remains mixed when the engine is running (except for the expansion tank). On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: My rescue 300TD had lots of rust and crap too. I flushed the heater, radiator, and engine individually with a garden hose until only clear water came out. I had an old trigger-style hose nozzle that fit inside the small hoses nicely with the aid of a hose clamp. Fresh coolant (less than 3 years old) should inhibit corrosion. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Brian Toscano Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 1:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Coolant question (related to my Jeep cooling system work) Last night I drained the coolant from the drain plug on the radiator. What came out first was bright green. After a little bit, it turns rusty brown, and then turned to dirty coolant. This was just draining. Likewise, what is in the expansion tank is typically rust colored and when I poured clean water into the heater core, what came out was rust colored. What I removed the water pump what I saw was dirty coolant, but the inside of the engine (outside of the cylinder wall for #1) looks perfectly fine and rust-free. It makes me think the coolant does separate as it cools. The water pump itself looks fine also. A gasket leak developed on the top of the pump after I did the first round of flushing. What has the most crap buildup are the heater hoses. The supply and return to the heater core have a rust buildup inside. The lower radiator hose has a large spring in it almost the entire length and that spring holds a ton of crap. It makes me wonder where all this rust comes from if the inside of the engine looks fine. On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.comwrote: I considered that the dark radiator has an effect on the coolant. The bright green when in the radiator is almost clear in a coolant tester. However, what's in the expansion tank is darker. The original problem has been fixed. The flushing I did definitely helped. I'm not expecting 100% perfectly new looking coolant in 11 year old engine with cast iron block and head. On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Remove a sample from the radiator and another from expansion tank to compare side by side; it's awfully hard to judge color inside a dark radiator. Did you fix the original problem? I think your flushing method failed. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] tire opinion
Oil is one of our valuable natural resources. If we have limited supply then we should be obliged to keep it here. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2012, at 1:05 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: We don't produce the oil. The multi-national corporations do. They owe no alligence to any countyr - just their shareholders. Just because the oil was pumped from US soil does not mean that it will be sold here. Oil from all overt the world is refined here, and as good portion of it is sold to other countries, our consumption needs not withstanding. Shell has an obligation to it's shareholders to sell to the highest bidder, not to the US. If China will pay more, they'll get the product, even if it comes from US wells. Yes, we are held hostage by the oil companies, as a the result of our very high consumption and dependence on oil. Accept it for what it is, don't try to wrap it in the flag -- On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: OK Don okd...@gmail.com writes: Not without nationalizing the petroleum industrry. Want to move to Venzuela? The oil industry does not know national borders - Yet if we produced as much or more than we consume, we ould not be held hostage to oil On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: with an halfway decent energy plan this country could be energy independent in a few years... LarryT 91 300D On 6/1/2012 8:17 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: Craig diese...@pisquared.net writes: I'm shocked at how much the price of tires has gone up the past couple of years. Everything is going up. When you get all those extra trillions of dollars our children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren have been obligated to pay chasing the same amount of goods, the price of things has to go up. Yeah but it seems that tires have not just gone up, they've about doubled since I last shopped (a couple of years ago). Allan 1983 300D 1979 300SD Tire Rack and similar websites seem to have the best prices, but around here at least, the dealers charge higher prices for mounting the mailorder tires such that little or nothing is saved by ordering them. I've seen several simple tire changing machines at Harbor Freight and other sources. Have you or others had any experience with them? I seem to remember prices in the $150 range for the machines which would be paid for after mounting two sets of tires. Balancing can be done by using a hub clamped in a vice and lubricated with very light oil. Did that in years gone by. Gerry __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hyundai Sonata suddenly accelerates against driver's will to 80 mph
If I bought one (which is unlikely) I would put some kind of kill switch on it; possibly on the power supply to the coil(s) and mount it within reach. Gerry To my thinking, a big red Emergency stop switch tied to a Big hairy relay (BHR(tm)) to interrupt the battery cable is the way to go. This is not exactly a new concept. WWII vintage vehicles had a battery master switch on the dash. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No cross pollination
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 04:56:03 -0400 Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: Those sounds are the FIRST thing to get turned off when I do a windows install. They make me want to cut speaker wires... Sometimes I even replace them with blank files... Or make the Windows shutting down sound the Ta-Da to signify you are finally out of Windows. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tire opinion
The question is who is we. The oil companies lease mineral rights from the holders of those rights. We as the citizens of this country do not own those mineral rights, with the exception of public lands. However, once we lease those rights to the oil companies, they are free to do what they wish with the oil, which is to sell it to the highest bidder. On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.comwrote: Oil is one of our valuable natural resources. If we have limited supply then we should be obliged to keep it here. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2012, at 1:05 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: We don't produce the oil. The multi-national corporations do. They owe no alligence to any countyr - just their shareholders. Just because the oil was pumped from US soil does not mean that it will be sold here. Oil from all overt the world is refined here, and as good portion of it is sold to other countries, our consumption needs not withstanding. Shell has an obligation to it's shareholders to sell to the highest bidder, not to the US. If China will pay more, they'll get the product, even if it comes from US wells. Yes, we are held hostage by the oil companies, as a the result of our very high consumption and dependence on oil. Accept it for what it is, don't try to wrap it in the flag -- On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: OK Don okd...@gmail.com writes: Not without nationalizing the petroleum industrry. Want to move to Venzuela? The oil industry does not know national borders - Yet if we produced as much or more than we consume, we ould not be held hostage to oil On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: with an halfway decent energy plan this country could be energy independent in a few years... LarryT 91 300D On 6/1/2012 8:17 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: Craig diese...@pisquared.net writes: I'm shocked at how much the price of tires has gone up the past couple of years. Everything is going up. When you get all those extra trillions of dollars our children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren have been obligated to pay chasing the same amount of goods, the price of things has to go up. Yeah but it seems that tires have not just gone up, they've about doubled since I last shopped (a couple of years ago). Allan 1983 300D 1979 300SD Tire Rack and similar websites seem to have the best prices, but around here at least, the dealers charge higher prices for mounting the mailorder tires such that little or nothing is saved by ordering them. I've seen several simple tire changing machines at Harbor Freight and other sources. Have you or others had any experience with them? I seem to remember prices in the $150 range for the machines which would be paid for after mounting two sets of tires. Balancing can be done by using a hub clamped in a vice and lubricated with very light oil. Did that in years gone by. Gerry __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To
Re: [MBZ] Hyundai Sonata suddenly accelerates against driver's will to 80 mph
To my thinking, a big red Emergency stop switch tied to a Big hairy relay (BHR(tm)) to interrupt the battery cable is the way to go. This is not exactly a new concept. WWII vintage vehicles had a battery master switch on the dash. Relays are trouble points too, don't forget. I think the traditional keyswitch _is_ all that is necessary if the hybrid's electric motor is brushless. All you have to kill is the power to the gate sequencer and that motor is _not_ going to turn. (There would need to be some attention to failure-proofing the design, so that, say, a shorted collector-to-gate motor IGBT didn't back-feed power into the gate driver, which might make it to the driver board's Vcc via protection diodes or the like. Board could thus stay powered through the defective motor driver, and your fail-safe key switch isn't so fail-safe anymore. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tire opinion
The government imposes plenty of restrictions on our rights for the greater good of the country. Any oil that is drilled on US territory should remain here in my opinion. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2012, at 11:01 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: The question is who is we. The oil companies lease mineral rights from the holders of those rights. We as the citizens of this country do not own those mineral rights, with the exception of public lands. However, once we lease those rights to the oil companies, they are free to do what they wish with the oil, which is to sell it to the highest bidder. On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.comwrote: Oil is one of our valuable natural resources. If we have limited supply then we should be obliged to keep it here. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2012, at 1:05 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: We don't produce the oil. The multi-national corporations do. They owe no alligence to any countyr - just their shareholders. Just because the oil was pumped from US soil does not mean that it will be sold here. Oil from all overt the world is refined here, and as good portion of it is sold to other countries, our consumption needs not withstanding. Shell has an obligation to it's shareholders to sell to the highest bidder, not to the US. If China will pay more, they'll get the product, even if it comes from US wells. Yes, we are held hostage by the oil companies, as a the result of our very high consumption and dependence on oil. Accept it for what it is, don't try to wrap it in the flag -- On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: OK Don okd...@gmail.com writes: Not without nationalizing the petroleum industrry. Want to move to Venzuela? The oil industry does not know national borders - Yet if we produced as much or more than we consume, we ould not be held hostage to oil On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: with an halfway decent energy plan this country could be energy independent in a few years... LarryT 91 300D On 6/1/2012 8:17 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: Craig diese...@pisquared.net writes: I'm shocked at how much the price of tires has gone up the past couple of years. Everything is going up. When you get all those extra trillions of dollars our children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren have been obligated to pay chasing the same amount of goods, the price of things has to go up. Yeah but it seems that tires have not just gone up, they've about doubled since I last shopped (a couple of years ago). Allan 1983 300D 1979 300SD Tire Rack and similar websites seem to have the best prices, but around here at least, the dealers charge higher prices for mounting the mailorder tires such that little or nothing is saved by ordering them. I've seen several simple tire changing machines at Harbor Freight and other sources. Have you or others had any experience with them? I seem to remember prices in the $150 range for the machines which would be paid for after mounting two sets of tires. Balancing can be done by using a hub clamped in a vice and lubricated with very light oil. Did that in years gone by. Gerry __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990
Re: [MBZ] tire opinion
That's not a very libertarian stance --- On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.comwrote: The government imposes plenty of restrictions on our rights for the greater good of the country. Any oil that is drilled on US territory should remain here in my opinion. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2012, at 11:01 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: The question is who is we. The oil companies lease mineral rights from the holders of those rights. We as the citizens of this country do not own those mineral rights, with the exception of public lands. However, once we lease those rights to the oil companies, they are free to do what they wish with the oil, which is to sell it to the highest bidder. On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Oil is one of our valuable natural resources. If we have limited supply then we should be obliged to keep it here. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2012, at 1:05 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: We don't produce the oil. The multi-national corporations do. They owe no alligence to any countyr - just their shareholders. Just because the oil was pumped from US soil does not mean that it will be sold here. Oil from all overt the world is refined here, and as good portion of it is sold to other countries, our consumption needs not withstanding. Shell has an obligation to it's shareholders to sell to the highest bidder, not to the US. If China will pay more, they'll get the product, even if it comes from US wells. Yes, we are held hostage by the oil companies, as a the result of our very high consumption and dependence on oil. Accept it for what it is, don't try to wrap it in the flag -- On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: OK Don okd...@gmail.com writes: Not without nationalizing the petroleum industrry. Want to move to Venzuela? The oil industry does not know national borders - Yet if we produced as much or more than we consume, we ould not be held hostage to oil On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: with an halfway decent energy plan this country could be energy independent in a few years... LarryT 91 300D On 6/1/2012 8:17 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: Craig diese...@pisquared.net writes: I'm shocked at how much the price of tires has gone up the past couple of years. Everything is going up. When you get all those extra trillions of dollars our children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren have been obligated to pay chasing the same amount of goods, the price of things has to go up. Yeah but it seems that tires have not just gone up, they've about doubled since I last shopped (a couple of years ago). Allan 1983 300D 1979 300SD Tire Rack and similar websites seem to have the best prices, but around here at least, the dealers charge higher prices for mounting the mailorder tires such that little or nothing is saved by ordering them. I've seen several simple tire changing machines at Harbor Freight and other sources. Have you or others had any experience with them? I seem to remember prices in the $150 range for the machines which would be paid for after mounting two sets of tires. Balancing can be done by using a hub clamped in a vice and lubricated with very light oil. Did that in years gone by. Gerry __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to
Re: [MBZ] tire opinion
I agree. But neither is eminent domain and it happens. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2012, at 11:15 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: That's not a very libertarian stance --- On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 10:12 AM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.comwrote: The government imposes plenty of restrictions on our rights for the greater good of the country. Any oil that is drilled on US territory should remain here in my opinion. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2012, at 11:01 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: The question is who is we. The oil companies lease mineral rights from the holders of those rights. We as the citizens of this country do not own those mineral rights, with the exception of public lands. However, once we lease those rights to the oil companies, they are free to do what they wish with the oil, which is to sell it to the highest bidder. On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Oil is one of our valuable natural resources. If we have limited supply then we should be obliged to keep it here. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2012, at 1:05 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: We don't produce the oil. The multi-national corporations do. They owe no alligence to any countyr - just their shareholders. Just because the oil was pumped from US soil does not mean that it will be sold here. Oil from all overt the world is refined here, and as good portion of it is sold to other countries, our consumption needs not withstanding. Shell has an obligation to it's shareholders to sell to the highest bidder, not to the US. If China will pay more, they'll get the product, even if it comes from US wells. Yes, we are held hostage by the oil companies, as a the result of our very high consumption and dependence on oil. Accept it for what it is, don't try to wrap it in the flag -- On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: OK Don okd...@gmail.com writes: Not without nationalizing the petroleum industrry. Want to move to Venzuela? The oil industry does not know national borders - Yet if we produced as much or more than we consume, we ould not be held hostage to oil On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: with an halfway decent energy plan this country could be energy independent in a few years... LarryT 91 300D On 6/1/2012 8:17 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: Craig diese...@pisquared.net writes: I'm shocked at how much the price of tires has gone up the past couple of years. Everything is going up. When you get all those extra trillions of dollars our children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren have been obligated to pay chasing the same amount of goods, the price of things has to go up. Yeah but it seems that tires have not just gone up, they've about doubled since I last shopped (a couple of years ago). Allan 1983 300D 1979 300SD Tire Rack and similar websites seem to have the best prices, but around here at least, the dealers charge higher prices for mounting the mailorder tires such that little or nothing is saved by ordering them. I've seen several simple tire changing machines at Harbor Freight and other sources. Have you or others had any experience with them? I seem to remember prices in the $150 range for the machines which would be paid for after mounting two sets of tires. Balancing can be done by using a hub clamped in a vice and lubricated with very light oil. Did that in years gone by. Gerry __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For
Re: [MBZ] Coolant question (related to my Jeep cooling system work)
I am not saying ignore, but instead leave it and see if the system continues to clean itself out. I have already seen that the cooling system is getting cleaner by driving it. It may be dex-cool sludge. When the thermostat failed and I removed the radiator cap I had to scoop out orange mud like paste. It may be that the mechanic who R/R'd the head saw rusty colored coolant and used Dexcool. Does't Dexcool usually leave a stain near external seals? I haven't seen any evidence of that. On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 6:13 AM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Dex-cool sludge? -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jun 3, 2012, at 0:23, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: Thank for the suggestions. Where I live, I don't have the option for a garden hose to run for 20-30 minutes. What I have done instead is to pour gallon jugs of water through the heater core radiator, and engine. I am not sure if the garden hose has enough pressure to make the process go faster than pouring gallons in by hand. The problem has been the coolant is still getting dirty. I don't think the engine is making rust, but there must be some sticking to parts that is slowly coming out. Similar to how synthetic oil can clean out an engine over time. The weird part is how the coolant separates, with the heater core or expansion tank seeming to have more rusty water than the radiator. I think this must happen after the engine cools off. I would think the water pump moves the coolant around enough that it remains mixed when the engine is running (except for the expansion tank). On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: My rescue 300TD had lots of rust and crap too. I flushed the heater, radiator, and engine individually with a garden hose until only clear water came out. I had an old trigger-style hose nozzle that fit inside the small hoses nicely with the aid of a hose clamp. Fresh coolant (less than 3 years old) should inhibit corrosion. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Brian Toscano Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 1:52 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Coolant question (related to my Jeep cooling system work) Last night I drained the coolant from the drain plug on the radiator. What came out first was bright green. After a little bit, it turns rusty brown, and then turned to dirty coolant. This was just draining. Likewise, what is in the expansion tank is typically rust colored and when I poured clean water into the heater core, what came out was rust colored. What I removed the water pump what I saw was dirty coolant, but the inside of the engine (outside of the cylinder wall for #1) looks perfectly fine and rust-free. It makes me think the coolant does separate as it cools. The water pump itself looks fine also. A gasket leak developed on the top of the pump after I did the first round of flushing. What has the most crap buildup are the heater hoses. The supply and return to the heater core have a rust buildup inside. The lower radiator hose has a large spring in it almost the entire length and that spring holds a ton of crap. It makes me wonder where all this rust comes from if the inside of the engine looks fine. On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.comwrote: I considered that the dark radiator has an effect on the coolant. The bright green when in the radiator is almost clear in a coolant tester. However, what's in the expansion tank is darker. The original problem has been fixed. The flushing I did definitely helped. I'm not expecting 100% perfectly new looking coolant in 11 year old engine with cast iron block and head. On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Remove a sample from the radiator and another from expansion tank to compare side by side; it's awfully hard to judge color inside a dark radiator. Did you fix the original problem? I think your flushing method failed. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___
Re: [MBZ] Hyundai Sonata suddenly accelerates against driver's will to 80 mph
Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com writes: As a electronics professional, what is needed is not a personal computer expert but someone skilled in hardware and embedded system customization and modification. Agreed, such systems have little in common with desktop and server computers. I still don't want any of it. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hyundai Sonata suddenly accelerates against driver's will to 80 mph
- Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hyundai Sonata suddenly accelerates against driver's will to 80 mph If I bought one (which is unlikely) I would put some kind of kill switch on it; possibly on the power supply to the coil(s) and mount it within reach. Gerry To my thinking, a big red Emergency stop switch tied to a Big hairy relay (BHR(tm)) to interrupt the battery cable is the way to go. This is not exactly a new concept. WWII vintage vehicles had a battery master switch on the dash. Gerry wrote: Googled it and found kill switches for Prius. http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/performanceparts/toyota/Prius/Electronics/Battery_Kill_Switches A number of taxi companies are using Prius: With 32 Prius taxis operating in his Cairns, Queensland fleet of Black and White Taxis, owner Graham Boundy knows the truth about high-mileage hybrids - and it's surprisingly good. Each car racks up about 200,000km (125,000mi) each year. Two of the older examples have managed a lifespan of 350,000km (218,000mi) and 550,000km (341,000mi) before needing replacement of their nickel-metal hydride (NiMH) batteries. The only problem even at the end of their battery pack service life was a low voltage reading.The cars have been in service since September, 2005, and Bounds has ordered another 8 to bring his fleet total to 40. http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1023454_toyota-prius-taxi-tops-34mi-dispels-battery-myth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No cross pollination
When Suntrust Bank got new type ATMs, I accidentally hit two buttons on the keypad at the same time and the ATM crashed and went blank. In a minute it booted up very slowly with the Windows logo just like a computer. Not a very reassuring thought that your money is being dispensed by a crash prone Windows program. Gerry PS: You had me thinking that you were a CE; probably out setting stakes every day. There seems to be a lot of DIY Prius info on the net. From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com I guess I didn't provide enough evidence of the sarcasm and funniness that I was trying to convey, haha. :) :D :p I'm an EE with ME background and embedded systems experience, so at least on paper I could do some of the work. I'd likely devise my own control circuitry or hijack the existing to do my will... It has been shown that a Prius without the nany-limits on starting torque can do an impressive 0-60 time. And I HATE the BofA ATM machines... The one closest to my house has never had a touch screen calibration or even the dignity of the windows sounds being changed... Walt On Jun 3, 2012 4:03 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: By your reasoning, you and the other computer engineers shouldn't be able to diagnose and fix mechanical problems on cars, yet you usually can. If you bought a used hybrid, I don't think it would be long before you were fixing it. Several banks are using Windows to run their ATMs. Probably won't be long before Windows will be running hybrids. (g) Gerry From: Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com Ask a civil engineer to design a rocket engine. He's an engineer after all! :P Walt On Jun 3, 2012 1:46 AM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...I'm surprised that some of the computer professionals on the list haven't bought a hybrid since they could probably diagnose and fix a highly computerized car. Apples and kumquats. RLE __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2425/5041 - Release Date: 06/02/12 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No cross pollination
Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com writes: Probably won't be long before Windows will be running hybrids. (g) Ha. ATMs don't have the ability to kill you when the OS goes out to lunch. OSes like Windows or Linux are wholly inappropriate for something like critical real-time control of mechanical systems with life and property at stake. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No cross pollination
Microsoft has/had an automotive version of windows. I saw it on a timeline of windows versions. Walt On Jun 3, 2012 12:07 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com writes: Probably won't be long before Windows will be running hybrids. (g) Ha. ATMs don't have the ability to kill you when the OS goes out to lunch. OSes like Windows or Linux are wholly inappropriate for something like critical real-time control of mechanical systems with life and property at stake. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No cross pollination
Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com writes: Microsoft has/had an automotive version of windows. I saw it on a timeline of windows versions. I would think (hope) that would be for in-car entertainment, navigation, etc. maybe climate control, not control of the actual mechanical devices related to going, stopping, and steering. The system Ford uses for voice command control of the radio, etc. I believe is made by Microsoft. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hyundai Sonata suddenly accelerates against driver's will to 80 mph
Not all drivebywire systems are faulty. I had a 2000 VW TDI that never had any problems and never heard of any runaway vehicles. Come to think of it, only the Asian makes seem to have trouble with drivebywire. My theory is that the earlier Japanese vehicles were based on simpler American or British designs that the Japanese perfected. Then they got a little more adventurous in their designs and the problems started On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 9:04 AM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.comwrote: - Original Message - From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 9:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hyundai Sonata suddenly accelerates against driver's will to 80 mph If I bought one (which is unlikely) I would put some kind of kill switch on it; possibly on the power supply to the coil(s) and mount it within reach. Gerry To my thinking, a big red Emergency stop switch tied to a Big hairy relay (BHR(tm)) to interrupt the battery cable is the way to go. This is not exactly a new concept. WWII vintage vehicles had a battery master switch on the dash. Gerry wrote: Googled it and found kill switches for Prius. http://www.horsepowerfreaks.**com/performanceparts/toyota/** Prius/Electronics/Battery_**Kill_Switcheshttp://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/performanceparts/toyota/Prius/Electronics/Battery_Kill_Switches A number of taxi companies are using Prius: With 32 Prius taxis operating in his Cairns, Queensland fleet of Black and White Taxis, owner Graham Boundy knows the truth about high-mileage hybrids - and it's surprisingly good. Each car racks up about 200,000km (125,000mi) each year. Two of the older examples have managed a lifespan of 350,000km (218,000mi) and 550,000km (341,000mi) before needing replacement of their nickel-metal hydride (NiMH) batteries. The only problem even at the end of their battery pack service life was a low voltage reading.The cars have been in service since September, 2005, and Bounds has ordered another 8 to bring his fleet total to 40. http://www.motorauthority.com/**news/1023454_toyota-prius-** taxi-tops-34mi-dispels-**battery-mythhttp://www.motorauthority.com/news/1023454_toyota-prius-taxi-tops-34mi-dispels-battery-myth __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coolant question (related to my Jeep cooling system work)
Sorry - coming on to this thread a little late - but guessing were talking about a cherekee with a 4 liter. It is a very difficult cooling system to bleed - for some unknown reason - a heater hose runs across teh top of the engine - best I can remember. The only way I have every been abel to properly bleed the system is to put a flushing port at the high point of that hose. One of those deals that you would attach your hose to. Then you fill the system the the cap to that loose untill coolant comes out of it and then tighten it up. I have also used it as a port to fill the system. Best of luck - I'm sure you can get more info using the power of the internet. Kind of a common problem as I Recall. Peter On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 9:41 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Did the impeller rot off the old water pump? -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jun 2, 2012, at 14:45, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: I considered that, but here's the kicker... Only the lower hose has the spring and if I try to clean it, it returns to black which seems to be the way it came from the factory. I don't think the spring itself is rusting - it seems to be a surface that rust collects, but that's it. I didn't try to remove the spring because I didn't want to distort it. I think changing the lower hose would eliminate some build up in the part of the spring I could not clean. As an example, if I pull on the spring and rinse water through the house, It takes a few seconds for the water to be perfectly clear again. Maybe the rust came from the head, not the block? Both are cast iron. On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Maybe those springs? --R On 6/2/12 1:51 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Last night I drained the coolant from the drain plug on the radiator. What came out first was bright green. After a little bit, it turns rusty brown, and then turned to dirty coolant. This was just draining. Likewise, what is in the expansion tank is typically rust colored and when I poured clean water into the heater core, what came out was rust colored. What I removed the water pump what I saw was dirty coolant, but the inside of the engine (outside of the cylinder wall for #1) looks perfectly fine and rust-free. It makes me think the coolant does separate as it cools. The water pump itself looks fine also. A gasket leak developed on the top of the pump after I did the first round of flushing. What has the most crap buildup are the heater hoses. The supply and return to the heater core have a rust buildup inside. The lower radiator hose has a large spring in it almost the entire length and that spring holds a ton of crap. It makes me wonder where all this rust comes from if the inside of the engine looks fine. On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Brian Toscanobrian.toscano@gmail. **combrian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: I considered that the dark radiator has an effect on the coolant. The bright green when in the radiator is almost clear in a coolant tester. However, what's in the expansion tank is darker. The original problem has been fixed. The flushing I did definitely helped. I'm not expecting 100% perfectly new looking coolant in 11 year old engine with cast iron block and head. On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Maxmeadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Remove a sample from the radiator and another from expansion tank to compare side by side; it's awfully hard to judge color inside a dark radiator. Did you fix the original problem? I think your flushing method failed. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/ http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] Coolant question (related to my Jeep cooling system work)
Yes - 4.0. The heater core hoses do run at valve cover level, higher than the radiator. I like your idea of modifying one of the heater core hoses, but I am hesitant to splice hoses because in my mind more fittings mean more potential sources of leaks and failures. I'm hoping most/all of the air is out of the system. I filled the heater core with fresh distilled water from the from one supply line which has an L-shaped bend near the thermostat housing. After filling up, I took it for a test drive and the expansion tank dropped a few inches, but still had coolant in it. I have since filled it up to the Full mark. Does a rising/lowering expansion tank fluid level indicate that air has been purged from the pressurized part of the system? On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry - coming on to this thread a little late - but guessing were talking about a cherekee with a 4 liter. It is a very difficult cooling system to bleed - for some unknown reason - a heater hose runs across teh top of the engine - best I can remember. The only way I have every been abel to properly bleed the system is to put a flushing port at the high point of that hose. One of those deals that you would attach your hose to. Then you fill the system the the cap to that loose untill coolant comes out of it and then tighten it up. I have also used it as a port to fill the system. Best of luck - I'm sure you can get more info using the power of the internet. Kind of a common problem as I Recall. Peter On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 9:41 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Did the impeller rot off the old water pump? -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jun 2, 2012, at 14:45, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: I considered that, but here's the kicker... Only the lower hose has the spring and if I try to clean it, it returns to black which seems to be the way it came from the factory. I don't think the spring itself is rusting - it seems to be a surface that rust collects, but that's it. I didn't try to remove the spring because I didn't want to distort it. I think changing the lower hose would eliminate some build up in the part of the spring I could not clean. As an example, if I pull on the spring and rinse water through the house, It takes a few seconds for the water to be perfectly clear again. Maybe the rust came from the head, not the block? Both are cast iron. On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Maybe those springs? --R On 6/2/12 1:51 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Last night I drained the coolant from the drain plug on the radiator. What came out first was bright green. After a little bit, it turns rusty brown, and then turned to dirty coolant. This was just draining. Likewise, what is in the expansion tank is typically rust colored and when I poured clean water into the heater core, what came out was rust colored. What I removed the water pump what I saw was dirty coolant, but the inside of the engine (outside of the cylinder wall for #1) looks perfectly fine and rust-free. It makes me think the coolant does separate as it cools. The water pump itself looks fine also. A gasket leak developed on the top of the pump after I did the first round of flushing. What has the most crap buildup are the heater hoses. The supply and return to the heater core have a rust buildup inside. The lower radiator hose has a large spring in it almost the entire length and that spring holds a ton of crap. It makes me wonder where all this rust comes from if the inside of the engine looks fine. On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Brian Toscanobrian.toscano@gmail. **combrian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: I considered that the dark radiator has an effect on the coolant. The bright green when in the radiator is almost clear in a coolant tester. However, what's in the expansion tank is darker. The original problem has been fixed. The flushing I did definitely helped. I'm not expecting 100% perfectly new looking coolant in 11 year old engine with cast iron block and head. On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Maxmeadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Remove a sample from the radiator and another from expansion tank to compare side by side; it's awfully hard to judge color inside a dark radiator. Did you fix the original problem? I think your flushing method failed. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/
Re: [MBZ] Coolant question (related to my Jeep cooling system work)
When we did this we never had issues again - jsut make sure the it is the correct size for the hose - and should be fine. For arguments sake - you could make the Radiator the highest point by bleeding the system on jackstands as high as you can safely get the front of the jeep. Peter On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.comwrote: Yes - 4.0. The heater core hoses do run at valve cover level, higher than the radiator. I like your idea of modifying one of the heater core hoses, but I am hesitant to splice hoses because in my mind more fittings mean more potential sources of leaks and failures. I'm hoping most/all of the air is out of the system. I filled the heater core with fresh distilled water from the from one supply line which has an L-shaped bend near the thermostat housing. After filling up, I took it for a test drive and the expansion tank dropped a few inches, but still had coolant in it. I have since filled it up to the Full mark. Does a rising/lowering expansion tank fluid level indicate that air has been purged from the pressurized part of the system? On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry - coming on to this thread a little late - but guessing were talking about a cherekee with a 4 liter. It is a very difficult cooling system to bleed - for some unknown reason - a heater hose runs across teh top of the engine - best I can remember. The only way I have every been abel to properly bleed the system is to put a flushing port at the high point of that hose. One of those deals that you would attach your hose to. Then you fill the system the the cap to that loose untill coolant comes out of it and then tighten it up. I have also used it as a port to fill the system. Best of luck - I'm sure you can get more info using the power of the internet. Kind of a common problem as I Recall. Peter On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 9:41 PM, John Reames jwrea...@comcast.net wrote: Did the impeller rot off the old water pump? -- John W Reames jream...@verizon.net Home: +14106646986 Mobile: +14437915905 On Jun 2, 2012, at 14:45, Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: I considered that, but here's the kicker... Only the lower hose has the spring and if I try to clean it, it returns to black which seems to be the way it came from the factory. I don't think the spring itself is rusting - it seems to be a surface that rust collects, but that's it. I didn't try to remove the spring because I didn't want to distort it. I think changing the lower hose would eliminate some build up in the part of the spring I could not clean. As an example, if I pull on the spring and rinse water through the house, It takes a few seconds for the water to be perfectly clear again. Maybe the rust came from the head, not the block? Both are cast iron. On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Maybe those springs? --R On 6/2/12 1:51 PM, Brian Toscano wrote: Last night I drained the coolant from the drain plug on the radiator. What came out first was bright green. After a little bit, it turns rusty brown, and then turned to dirty coolant. This was just draining. Likewise, what is in the expansion tank is typically rust colored and when I poured clean water into the heater core, what came out was rust colored. What I removed the water pump what I saw was dirty coolant, but the inside of the engine (outside of the cylinder wall for #1) looks perfectly fine and rust-free. It makes me think the coolant does separate as it cools. The water pump itself looks fine also. A gasket leak developed on the top of the pump after I did the first round of flushing. What has the most crap buildup are the heater hoses. The supply and return to the heater core have a rust buildup inside. The lower radiator hose has a large spring in it almost the entire length and that spring holds a ton of crap. It makes me wonder where all this rust comes from if the inside of the engine looks fine. On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Brian Toscanobrian.toscano@gmail. **combrian.tosc...@gmail.com wrote: I considered that the dark radiator has an effect on the coolant. The bright green when in the radiator is almost clear in a coolant tester. However, what's in the expansion tank is darker. The original problem has been fixed. The flushing I did definitely helped. I'm not expecting 100% perfectly new looking coolant in 11 year old engine with cast iron block and head. On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Maxmeadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Remove a sample from
Re: [MBZ] Hyundai Sonata suddenly accelerates against driver's will to 80 mph
I was thinking of rerouting the power to the fuel pump through a driver accessible switch. Mitch. Gerry Archer wrote: If I bought one (which is unlikely) I would put some kind of kill switch on it; possibly on the power supply to the coil(s) and mount it within reach. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] EARLY CRASHES
Giving rise to the term, That'll buff right out --R On 6/3/12 1:29 AM, relng...@aol.com wrote: http://www.businessinsider.com/stunning-vintage-pictures-of-car-wrecks-from-1930s-2012-6?op=1 RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hyundai Sonata suddenly accelerates against driver's will to 80 mph
Brian Toscano wrote: Not all drivebywire systems are faulty. I had a 2000 VW TDI that never had any problems and never heard of any runaway vehicles. My brother had a 1976 VW Rabbit Diesel with runaway problems. Under the right (wrong) conditions it would go 40-50 mph on its own oil blow-by fumes. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No cross pollination
Many ford vehicles are powered by microsoft Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2012, at 11:12 AM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: Microsoft has/had an automotive version of windows. I saw it on a timeline of windows versions. Walt On Jun 3, 2012 12:07 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com writes: Probably won't be long before Windows will be running hybrids. (g) Ha. ATMs don't have the ability to kill you when the OS goes out to lunch. OSes like Windows or Linux are wholly inappropriate for something like critical real-time control of mechanical systems with life and property at stake. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hyundai Sonata suddenly accelerates against driver's will to 80 mph
Yup, the drains in the head would clog, allowing the valve cover to fill up with oil. when it got high enough, it would suck down into the intake through the breather and off it would go until the level dropped down. Easy fix, just clear the broken valve seal bits out of the drains. My old Dodge Aries used to do this, too -- only used oil on the highway. Similar deal, the head drains were clogged with crap and the oil would slowly fill up to the breather on the highway. Peter On Jun 3, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Brian Toscano wrote: Not all drivebywire systems are faulty. I had a 2000 VW TDI that never had any problems and never heard of any runaway vehicles. My brother had a 1976 VW Rabbit Diesel with runaway problems. Under the right (wrong) conditions it would go 40-50 mph on its own oil blow-by fumes. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No cross pollination
Funny that the Microsoft splash screen doesn't show up on the Ford units unless you have to spank the system (i.e. pull a fuse for a cold reboot). Many a rental car I had to reset due to slow performance of the Sync system -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 1:44 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] No cross pollination Many ford vehicles are powered by microsoft Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2012, at 11:12 AM, Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com wrote: Microsoft has/had an automotive version of windows. I saw it on a timeline of windows versions. Walt On Jun 3, 2012 12:07 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com writes: Probably won't be long before Windows will be running hybrids. (g) Ha. ATMs don't have the ability to kill you when the OS goes out to lunch. OSes like Windows or Linux are wholly inappropriate for something like critical real-time control of mechanical systems with life and property at stake. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coolant question (related to my Jeep cooling system work)
Peter Hertzing wrote: When we did this we never had issues again - jsut make sure the it is the correct size for the hose - and should be fine. Like this? http://www.amazon.com/Prestone-AFKIT0-Universal-Flush-Fill/dp/B000CCFY5W ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Erm... 200T?
Thanks guys. Looks like the bearing is a bigger job than I would want to tackle this summer, and still end up with an underpowered car. It is a good deal on a 123 wagon chassis if it's in good condition, but at the moment I need something I can drive. If anyone wants me to take a look let me know. Thanks, Tim On Jun 3, 2012 12:39 AM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Seller sounds like a tight wad wally, spends time and money replacing the clutch and doesn't do the bearing at the same time. It is also a good idea to overhaul the clutch slave cylinder while the box is out. The 200T is a waste of time, as the 230TE uses the same amount of fuel and has more power. http://wiki.mercedes-benz-**classic.com/index.php/** Kategorie:W123/en#W_123_**station_wagonshttp://wiki.mercedes-benz-classic.com/index.php/Kategorie:W123/en#W_123_station_wagons The 200T was 10% cheaper than the 230TE. Hendrik who owned a 230TE 5 speed On 03/06/12 12:30, Craig wrote: On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 22:30:05 -0400 Tim Cbb...@crone.us wrote: http://raleigh.craigslist.org/**cto/3025335284.htmlhttp://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3025335284.html I have to admit it looks pretty from the pictures. I've never worked on a manual before, is there a way to verify his claim about the throw out bearing? With the engine running, press on the clutch and put the transmission in gear. Throw-out bearing will be under load and could make noise if failing. You should hear no noise in addition to the engine. Craig __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tire opinion
If you mean by limiting drilling on public land than I agree totally. If instead you mean by limiting where the oil can be sold then no, at best thats market manipulation and at worst its socialism. Besides which we say our gasoline and diesel can't be exported (we really don't export oil I don't think, mostly refined product) and the next thing you know Asian countries won't sell us rubber or (gasp) equatorial countries won't sell us coffee. Asian car makers could pull out of the country due to their heavy governmental influence which would inevitably make cars more expensive. Worse other countries could refuse to allow imports from the US, the trade deficit worsens, and we spiral toward inevitable collapse. Face facts, you want cheap crap from China (if you didn't you wouldn't buy it) then you need to put up with globalization. It isn't The USA vs Everybody else anymore we're all in the same bucket. -Curt Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 05:56:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] tire opinion Message-ID: 1338728171.41893.yext-apple-iph...@web125104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Oil is one of our valuable natural resources. If we have limited supply then we should be obliged to keep it here. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tire opinion
Theres a big difference between we need this land to build a road and we'll steal your land to give to private business like they're trying to do for the Keystone XL project. I'm somewhat in favor of the former and completely against the latter. -Curt Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 08:17:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] tire opinion Message-ID: 1338736645.54894.yext-apple-iph...@web125101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I agree. But neither is eminent domain and it happens. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2012, at 11:15 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: That's not a very libertarian stance --- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No cross pollination
Microsoft Sync. Its for the info-tainment center in the car. I had a rental with it once, a Hyundai Elantra which was a fun little car BTW. I kid you not that at one point the son-of-a crashed, I'm cruising down the highway and all of a sudden the car won't make a sound, won't play the radio, nuthin. I slipped the shifter into neutral, shut off the engine careful not to turn the key back so far as to lock the steering, restarted and it was good again. It was a good system other than that one blip. -Curt Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 12:19:41 -0400 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] No cross pollination Message-ID: m1ipf8nzaa@cs.indiana.edu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Walt Zarnoch zarnoch...@gmail.com writes: Microsoft has/had an automotive version of windows. I saw it on a timeline of windows versions. I would think (hope) that would be for in-car entertainment, navigation, etc. maybe climate control, not control of the actual mechanical devices related to going, stopping, and steering. The system Ford uses for voice command control of the radio, etc. I believe is made by Microsoft. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hyundai Sonata suddenly accelerates against driver's will to 80 mph
Apples/oranges Jim I am talking about gasoline engines, You are talking about EV/hybrid. I grant the point about relays can fail. However the failure if generally no go, not full speed ahead. The old military manual battery disconnect is still a good solution. I was taking it further by mounting a stop switch on the steering wheel, so the sheeple's hontoada/ki/hyunnis will be shut off by the driver body hitting the switch in a frontal collision. this will greatly lessen the chances of fire. The toada fuel pump continuing to feed a fire after impact is apparently what caused one of my daughter's friends to be burned so badly it took a month to identify the remains after her new toada hit a rock wall. My thinking is a master battery disconnect on gassers that is shut off on impact would reduce fires. And, a manual switch could easily prevent runaway gassers. To my thinking, a big red Emergency stop switch tied to a Big hairy relay (BHR(tm)) to interrupt the battery cable is the way to go. This is not exactly a new concept. WWII vintage vehicles had a battery master switch on the dash. Relays are trouble points too, don't forget. I think the traditional keyswitch _is_ all that is necessary if the hybrid's electric motor is brushless. All you have to kill is the power to the gate sequencer and that motor is _not_ going to turn. (There would need to be some attention to failure-proofing the design, so that, say, a shorted collector-to-gate motor IGBT didn't back-feed power into the gate driver, which might make it to the driver board's Vcc via protection diodes or the like. Board could thus stay powered through the defective motor driver, and your fail-safe key switch isn't so fail-safe anymore. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coolant question (related to my Jeep cooling system work)
Put the front up on ramps while you're burping it? My '81 300TD liked to have the front higher while burping. We lived in the apartment back then so I drove it up on a handy curb which made burping it way easier. -Curt Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 11:02:12 -0600 From: Brian Toscano brian.tosc...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Coolant question (related to my Jeep cooling system work) Message-ID: CACnCPh=5cp2yo+-t3w-eexwcwx_zfonmbdxk4rneflflbpc...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes - 4.0. The heater core hoses do run at valve cover level, higher than the radiator. I like your idea of modifying one of the heater core hoses, but I am hesitant to splice hoses because in my mind more fittings mean more potential sources of leaks and failures. I'm hoping most/all of the air is out of the system. I filled the heater core with fresh distilled water from the from one supply line which has an L-shaped bend near the thermostat housing. After filling up, I took it for a test drive and the expansion tank dropped a few inches, but still had coolant in it. I have since filled it up to the Full mark. Does a rising/lowering expansion tank fluid level indicate that air has been purged from the pressurized part of the system? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Erm... 200T?
The slave cylinder Hendrik mentioned is a cake job, the throwout bearing is more than I'd want to do as well. My Indy charged me $1000 to do a clutch including the bearing about 6 years ago. If it weren't carbed I might consider it, if it were a 5spd I'd already be on the plane ;) Remember they made a 240TD too, this can't be that bad. -Curt Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 14:12:34 -0400 From: Tim C bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Erm... 200T? Message-ID: caefegzpatct9kpa1+tv3vqohohcjdvfvpmxgsgfqzaewzpk...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thanks guys. Looks like the bearing is a bigger job than I would want to tackle this summer, and still end up with an underpowered car. It is a good deal on a 123 wagon chassis if it's in good condition, but at the moment I need something I can drive. If anyone wants me to take a look let me know. Thanks, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No cross pollination
On Jun 3, 2012 12:07 PM, Allan Streib streib str...@cs.indiana.edu@str...@cs.indiana.edu cs.indiana.edu str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Gerry Archer archer75 arche...@embarqmail.com@arche...@embarqmail.com embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com writes: Probably won't be long before Windows will be running hybrids. (g) Ha. ATMs don't have the ability to kill you when the OS goes out to lunch. OSes like Windows or Linux are wholly inappropriate for something like critical real-time control of mechanical systems with life and property at stake. A single retransmitted data packet in a high-speed trading environment can result in the loss of hundreds of thousands of dollars. Cisco has a whole division set up to test latency, loss, etc. in those guys' networks. Not an auto accident, sure, but suicide if the network hiccups. And that doesn't even account for the networks running traffic signals and hospital services. I have seen too many buggy one-off embedded systems to believe that a bespoke solution will be more reliable than something based on a commercial system, be it wince or Linux or vxworks. There are just too many opportunities for data corruption and colliding interrupts once you have several processors going at once, and in real OSs at least you have the chance of handling those issues gracefully. Best, Tim Has more computers in the new van than in the old hybrid ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No cross pollination
On Jun 3, 2012 10:21 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: Or make the Windows shutting down sound the Ta-Da to signify you are finally out of Windows. Or reverse the startup/shutdown sounds. That works best on shared computers. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No cross pollination
So that's what happened to my Facebook million$. --R On 6/3/12 2:51 PM, Tim C wrote: A single retransmitted data packet in a high-speed trading environment can result in the loss of hundreds of thousands of dollars. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tire opinion
Curt Raymond wrote: Theres a big difference between we need this land to build a road and we'll steal your land to give to private business like they're trying to do for the Keystone XL project. I'm somewhat in favor of the former and completely against the latter. Google search keywords: Kelo V New London Prepare a barf bag before reading. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tire opinion
Only after we use everybody else's oil. Then we'll show them! --R On 6/3/12 11:12 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: The government imposes plenty of restrictions on our rights for the greater good of the country. Any oil that is drilled on US territory should remain here in my opinion. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hyundai Sonata suddenly accelerates against driver's will to 80 mph
In Granada Spain last summer we rode in a Pious taxi. They had a whole fleet of the things. The driver said it was great because of all the hills he had to go up and down, it kept the battery charged up and kept his fuel usage low. (I know about thermodynamics... just telling you what the driver said) --R On 6/3/12 11:04 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: A number of taxi companies are using Prius: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No cross pollination
Curt Raymond wrote: I'm cruising down the highway and all of a sudden the car won't make a sound, won't play the radio, nuthin. I slipped the shifter into neutral, shut off the engine careful not to turn the key back so far as to lock the steering, restarted and it was good again. I did that with my E320 once when the cruise control refused to engage. Result: rolling down the road after restart the transmission refuses to engage because I was doing 50mph when I turned the key back on. So I pulled over and stopped, planted my foot firmly on the kickdown switch, turned the key on for 15 seconds, turned the key off, kept the go pedal in kickdown for two more minutes, then got off the throttle and restarted. All was good after that, including the cruise control. Never had another glitch in the cruise since then either. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] E320 tricks [was: Re: No cross pollination]
On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 15:59:25 -0400 Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: I'm cruising down the highway and all of a sudden the car won't make a sound, won't play the radio, nuthin. I slipped the shifter into neutral, shut off the engine careful not to turn the key back so far as to lock the steering, restarted and it was good again. I did that with my E320 once when the cruise control refused to engage. Result: rolling down the road after restart the transmission refuses to engage because I was doing 50mph when I turned the key back on. So I pulled over and stopped, planted my foot firmly on the kickdown switch, turned the key on for 15 seconds, turned the key off, kept the go pedal in kickdown for two more minutes, then got off the throttle and restarted. All was good after that, including the cruise control. Never had another glitch in the cruise since then either. Was this a trick you read someplace, or is it in the driver's manual? I'm thinking it might apply to my '95 E320, too. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coolant question (related to my Jeep cooling system work)
Yes auto parts stores have them too. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Peter Hertzing wrote: When we did this we never had issues again - jsut make sure the it is the correct size for the hose - and should be fine. Like this? http://www.amazon.com/Prestone-AFKIT0-Universal-Flush-Fill/dp/B000CCFY5W ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hyundai Sonata suddenly accelerates against driver's will to 80 mph
They have a couple of Prius taxis running around here too. Ridiculous looking things with green leaf decals applied all over them. What happened to Checkers?? Now THAT was a taxi cab. Allan Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes: In Granada Spain last summer we rode in a Pious taxi. They had a whole fleet of the things. The driver said it was great because of all the hills he had to go up and down, it kept the battery charged up and kept his fuel usage low. (I know about thermodynamics... just telling you what the driver said) --R On 6/3/12 11:04 AM, Gerry Archer wrote: A number of taxi companies are using Prius: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: Re: No cross pollination beja4a3y
Original Message Subject:Re: [MBZ] No cross pollination Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 15:42:29 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com So on this laptop I had, I put the Autodestruct Sequence Armed message from Star Trek on the thing to play when starting up. I thought that was sorta fitting, windows and all. At some point after the airport paranoia started, some rent-a-cop at the airport gate asks me to turn on my computer (I never did learn what difference that would make, but whatever...). So I did, and sure enough the female Star Trek computer voice issues her warning... The guy looks at me kinda weird, and after a few seconds says, OK. The irony remains with me to this day. Almost right up there with the Southwest gate agent, in Dallas on like 9/13, saying to the cattle line, I need two volunteers for a random search. So like the idiot I am with these kinds of things, I say, If you search a volunteer that's not random. He says, Step over here sir then yells, I need another volunteer! I got the full stupid human tricks deal right there as everyone was going past me. --R (whose daughter tells him emphatically to keep his mouth shut at the airport) On 6/3/12 10:20 AM, Craig wrote: Or make the Windows shutting down sound the Ta-Da to signify you are finally out of Windows. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Voiding the Warranty
I have this pretty nice gas grill I got from Lowes a few years back, 4 burners. I think a JennAir brand (they have some now quite similar under some other brand). Anyway, I have always thought the heat output to be somewhat anemic. Hard to grill a steak properly, but OK for fish and veggies and such. So the other night I was cooking some chicken and the thing just would not get hot, just a bit of flame from the burners. I figured some bugs got in the works somewhere, so today I decided to clean everything out, which I did. Then I decided to see what I could do to get a bit more output on a couple of the burners. Took out the orifices and inspected them, they did not appear to be clogged or anything but I did run some wire through them to make sure. So then I decided to increase the orifice size on 2 of the burners. Found a tiny drill bit just a bit larger than the orifice holes and reamed them out. Putting all back together, them suckers is now in full nukuler mode! I am getting some serious fire out of them, nice and hot, just perfect for searing steaks! They still throttle down to about med-high compared to the other 2 I left stock, so should be fine for general use. Interestingly there was green fire coming out of those 2 improved burners in a couple of spots. Might have been some shavings bits from the brass orifices burning off? When I cleaned out the burners they had quite a bit of some kind of white powdery stuff in them, I was thinking it might be from whatever they used in the casting process? Maybe that was burning off green? Kids, do not try this at home! Homeland Security might show up! The EPA might show up! The Consumer Product Safety Commission might take interest! The Food and Drug Administration will fine you for making nasty stuff on grilled steaks! I am sure there are at least six other gummint agencies that would frown strongly upon this sort of thing -- it could harm national security! Anyway, have at it guys. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: No cross pollination beja4a3y
Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes: --R (whose daughter tells him emphatically to keep his mouth shut at the airport) I just avoid flying whenever I possibly can. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Voiding the Warranty
I use charcoal. You can make that really hot just use a lot and pile it up. If you want less heat, use less and spread it out. Or move it off to the side and grill indirectly. -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tires on the cheap
Tire Rack and similar websites seem to have the best prices, but around here at least, the dealers charge higher prices for mounting the mailorder tires such that little or nothing is saved by ordering them... What? You expect them to mount tires you bought elsewhere for free? All right, pay attention. Since Tire Rack is now the biggest tire dealer in the country, they are controlling the prices. So here's what I have done several times. Knowing exactly what tires I want, I go into Discount Tire (a big chain out my way) and I tell them that I want to order a set of those tires but want to pay Tire Rack prices. No problem, says the counter man as he is going to Tire Rack's website to check the price. So he says, we will honor that price but we will add the freight they would have charged you from their warehouse which for me is in Reno. I agree and the tires are ordered if not in stock. Since mounting is always included in local tire purchases, I pay for balancing only. Plus, I get lifetime flat repairs and balancing. And, local warranty replacement later if needed with no charges for mount/dismount/rebalance. The only thing I have to do first is get a commitment from the store manager that they absolutely can mount tires on my wheels without ANY damage. The answer is always yes so when the screw one up I've got 'em. My car has very fragile and expensive wheels which are still in brand new condition so I have to choose a shop very carefully and would never dream of attempting any of this myself. I am about to replace the tires on my C300 (1st time) so will go through this little exercise very soon. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Too many feechus
...The system Ford uses for voice command control of the radio, etc. I believe is made by Microsoft... It is to laugh. Recent road tests of new Fords with their new system have complained about useless features and freezups. Now, what does that remind us of? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ford power
..Many ford vehicles are powered by microsoft.. Pressurized or liquid? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tire opinion
We'll have nothing to show them. China will drain the worlds resources including our own. We are the fools. We fight wars killing our own children and innocent civilians in the enemy country for oil then sell what we produce to China. That is the most ass backward thing I've ever heard. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Only after we use everybody else's oil. Then we'll show them! --R On 6/3/12 11:12 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: The government imposes plenty of restrictions on our rights for the greater good of the country. Any oil that is drilled on US territory should remain here in my opinion. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tires on the cheap
Gerry wrote: Tire Rack and similar websites seem to have the best prices, but around here at least, the dealers charge higher prices for mounting the mailorder tires such that little or nothing is saved by ordering them... What? You expect them to mount tires you bought elsewhere for free? All right, pay attention. Since Tire Rack is now the biggest tire dealer in the country, they are controlling the prices. So here's what I have done several times. Knowing exactly what tires I want, I go into Discount Tire (a big chain out my way) and I tell them that I want to order a set of those tires but want to pay Tire Rack prices. No problem, says the counter man as he is going to Tire Rack's website to check the price. So he says, we will honor that price but we will add the freight they would have charged you from their warehouse which for me is in Reno. I agree and the tires are ordered if not in stock. Since mounting is always included in local tire purchases, I pay for balancing only. Plus, I get lifetime flat repairs and balancing. And, local warranty replacement later if needed with no charges for mount/dismount/rebalance. The only thing I have to do first is get a commitment from the store manager that they absolutely can mount tires on my wheels without ANY damage. The answer is always yes so when the screw one up I've got 'em. My car has very fragile and expensive wheels which are still in brand new condition so I have to choose a shop very carefully and would never dream of attempting any of this myself. I am about to replace the tires on my C300 (1st time) so will go through this little exercise very soon. RLE . Clever! Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E320 tricks [was: Re: No cross pollination]
Craig wrote: Was this a trick you read someplace, or is it in the driver's manual? I'm thinking it might apply to my '95 E320, too. I thought it was in the manual, but couldn't find it there when I checked just now. Looks like I didn't have to stand on the pedal during the two minute wait: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w210-e-class/1329576-wow-diy-transmission-comp-reset.html Might only be for the 1997 and later cars with the 5sp automatic transmission. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Too many feechus
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 19:24:37 -0400 (EDT) relng...@aol.com wrote: ...The system Ford uses for voice command control of the radio, etc. I believe is made by Microsoft... It is to laugh. Recent road tests of new Fords with their new system have complained about useless features and freezups. Now, what does that remind us of? Ummm ... Windoze? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tires on the cheap
Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com writes: Knowing exactly what tires I want, I go into Discount Tire (a big chain out my way) and I tell them that I want to order a set of those tires but want to pay Tire Rack prices. No problem, says the counter man as he is going to Tire Rack's website to check the price. One thing some chain shops do is they have lines that they sell in-house but don't sell on Tire Rack. So it becomes impossible to get a Tire Rack price quote. For example if you go into a Firestone shop you can get a quote on Champion tires, but you won't find them on TireRack.com Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tires on the cheap
I order my tires from tirerack or online from discount tire and mount them with my tire machine and balance them with my computer balacer Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2012, at 6:19 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: Tire Rack and similar websites seem to have the best prices, but around here at least, the dealers charge higher prices for mounting the mailorder tires such that little or nothing is saved by ordering them... What? You expect them to mount tires you bought elsewhere for free? All right, pay attention. Since Tire Rack is now the biggest tire dealer in the country, they are controlling the prices. So here's what I have done several times. Knowing exactly what tires I want, I go into Discount Tire (a big chain out my way) and I tell them that I want to order a set of those tires but want to pay Tire Rack prices. No problem, says the counter man as he is going to Tire Rack's website to check the price. So he says, we will honor that price but we will add the freight they would have charged you from their warehouse which for me is in Reno. I agree and the tires are ordered if not in stock. Since mounting is always included in local tire purchases, I pay for balancing only. Plus, I get lifetime flat repairs and balancing. And, local warranty replacement later if needed with no charges for mount/dismount/rebalance. The only thing I have to do first is get a commitment from the store manager that they absolutely can mount tires on my wheels without ANY damage. The answer is always yes so when the screw one up I've got 'em. My car has very fragile and expensive wheels which are still in brand new condition so I have to choose a shop very carefully and would never dream of attempting any of this myself. I am about to replace the tires on my C300 (1st time) so will go through this little exercise very soon. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No cross pollination
Walt wrote: Ask a civil engineer to design a rocket engine. He's an engineer after all! :P My boss 30 years ago graduated Aerospace (ND), then PhD CivilEngg (SoCal) - he coulda done it. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No cross pollination
Tim C wrote: I have seen too many buggy one-off embedded systems to believe that a bespoke solution will be more reliable than something based on a commercial system, be it wince or Linux or vxworks. How does this relate to online bill payment bank account (Jamie Dimon bank)? I enjoy bill pay from behind linux firewall network at home, not writing checks, but I can go back to pen, checks, postage if bill pay is funky/dangerous. Please tell us it ain't so. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ford power
RLE wrote: Pressurized or liquid? 5-1/4 floppies. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] fords accelerate because of bad engineers as well...
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[MBZ] was Hyundai Sonata suddenly accelerates now golf ball catch
H - I was surfing after following Gerry's link and found this... http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1076623_mercedes-breaks-world-record-by-c atching-golf-ball-with-sls-amg http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1023454_toyota-prius-taxi-tops- 34mi-dispels-battery-myth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No cross pollination
Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com writes: How does this relate to online bill payment bank account (Jamie Dimon bank)? I enjoy bill pay from behind linux firewall network at home, not writing checks, but I can go back to pen, checks, postage if bill pay is funky/dangerous. Please tell us it ain't so. Even paper checks are processed electronically now. There's little if any safety advantage to using them. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] WTB: 1987 300TD in better than average condition
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[MBZ] WTB Drivers w123 euro (squeare) headlight lens....
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Re: [MBZ] tires on the cheap
Woger sez: I go into Discount Tire (a big chain out my way) and I tell them that I want to order a set of those tires but want to pay Tire Rack prices. No problem, says the counter man as he is going to Tire Rack's website to check the price. Scary! I agree with Woger on this one. I did this a few years ago when I wanted a set of 4 blizzaks. Priced em at tar rak then found a farstone store that had 4 in stock. Went there and asked em to do price match. They did, and I bought em. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] If you like Shoe-Goo, you'll love InstaMorph
It's not an adhesive, but it is a thermoplastic that melts at 140-150 F. It can be molded by hand like modeling clay and hardens to a very strong and fairly hard polymer. It adheres very well to itself while still soft. When it hardens they say it is machineable. A possible drawback for automotive use is that it melts at a relatively low temperature, so not suitable for use in an engine compartment or even in the passenger area in hot climates. To use it you heat a small container of water to 150, pour in a suitable quantity of pellets, then pick out the blob that forms with a table fork or such. Mold the blob with your fingers to the shape necessary for the repair. Excess can be torn off and returned to the container for future use. It is clear when molten but hardens to white. They say it can be colored in various ways. All in all I think it is a very useful addition to the tool-boxes of the shoe-goo and microwave sheet-metal crowd. Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT request for help
A young man who has made quite a favorable impression on me is having
car trouble, and is asking for help. Being a Shovey gasser, I don't
have any/many ideas, so I thought i'd put it out here and see if
y'all have any ideas and suggestions.
Begin Quote:
Would love any ideas you can give me on the issue I'm having on my
car('98 Chevy Camaro 3.8 V6). It is misfiring on acceleration, and
fairly badly. The injectors have been replaced, the spark plugs and
wires have been replaced, the heads were recently reworked with a
valve grind, all new engine gaskets, and the Idle Air Control
Valve(IACV) was recently replaced as well. It idles well, but
misfires as soon as a load is placed on the engine, any load at all.
The less the acceleration, the less the misfire, and vice versa. It
is very bad when accelerating in a high gear at low engine rpm. The
shop diagnosed misfires on multiple cylinders, and recommended I
change the injectors and plugs, which I did, and of course it didn't
solve it. I will talk with the shop tomorrow, that's another issue.
Ran a compression check today on all cylinders, the numbers were
quite good, all in the 180-205 psi range, and the minimum for this
engine is 100 psi. Suspected the Catalytic Converter of a possible
blockage, so I removed the exhaust pipes at the manifolds and test
drove, still misfiring as usual.
Would love any ideas you have, sir! Thank you.
End quote.
He is a Navy veteran, so I'd appreciate any ideas to help him. Thanks.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Voiding the Warranty
I had a grill like that once myself. Got rid of it and got a used Vermont castings that needed a burner, its been a great grill. When you start with a $600 grill you can build it into something. My other one was a super cheapie. My uncle claimed to have done the same as you opening the jets with similar results. I wonder if weak flame output is a safety feature? -Curt Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2012 17:49:37 -0400 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT Voiding the Warranty Message-ID: 4fcbdbf1.4040...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I have this pretty nice gas grill I got from Lowes a few years back, 4 burners. I think a JennAir brand (they have some now quite similar under some other brand). Anyway, I have always thought the heat output to be somewhat anemic. Hard to grill a steak properly, but OK for fish and veggies and such. So the other night I was cooking some chicken and the thing just would not get hot, just a bit of flame from the burners. I figured some bugs got in the works somewhere, so today I decided to clean everything out, which I did. Then I decided to see what I could do to get a bit more output on a couple of the burners. Took out the orifices and inspected them, they did not appear to be clogged or anything but I did run some wire through them to make sure. So then I decided to increase the orifice size on 2 of the burners. Found a tiny drill bit just a bit larger than the orifice holes and reamed them out. Putting all back together, them suckers is now in full nukuler mode! I am getting some serious fire out of them, nice and hot, just perfect for searing steaks! They still throttle down to about med-high compared to the other 2 I left stock, so should be fine for general use. Interestingly there was green fire coming out of those 2 improved burners in a couple of spots. Might have been some shavings bits from the brass orifices burning off? When I cleaned out the burners they had quite a bit of some kind of white powdery stuff in them, I was thinking it might be from whatever they used in the casting process? Maybe that was burning off green? Kids, do not try this at home! Homeland Security might show up! The EPA might show up! The Consumer Product Safety Commission might take interest! The Food and Drug Administration will fine you for making nasty stuff on grilled steaks! I am sure there are at least six other gummint agencies that would frown strongly upon this sort of thing -- it could harm national security! Anyway, have at it guys. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT request for help
Has the fuel filter been replaced? Sounds like possibly a low fuel
pressure issue.
Mike
On Jun 3, 2012 10:00 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
A young man who has made quite a favorable impression on me is having car
trouble, and is asking for help. Being a Shovey gasser, I don't have
any/many ideas, so I thought i'd put it out here and see if y'all have any
ideas and suggestions.
Begin Quote:
Would love any ideas you can give me on the issue I'm having on my car('98
Chevy Camaro 3.8 V6). It is misfiring on acceleration, and fairly badly.
The injectors have been replaced, the spark plugs and wires have been
replaced, the heads were recently reworked with a valve grind, all new
engine gaskets, and the Idle Air Control Valve(IACV) was recently replaced
as well. It idles well, but misfires as soon as a load is placed on the
engine, any load at all. The less the acceleration, the less the misfire,
and vice versa. It is very bad when accelerating in a high gear at low
engine rpm. The shop diagnosed misfires on multiple cylinders, and
recommended I change the injectors and plugs, which I did, and of course it
didn't solve it. I will talk with the shop tomorrow, that's another issue.
Ran a compression check today on all cylinders, the numbers were quite
good, all in the 180-205 psi range, and the minimum for this engine is 100
psi. Suspected the Catalytic Converter of a possible blockage, so I
removed the exhaust pipes at the manifolds and test drove, still misfiring
as usual.
Would love any ideas you have, sir! Thank you.
End quote.
He is a Navy veteran, so I'd appreciate any ideas to help him. Thanks.
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Re: [MBZ] OT request for help
Coil.
Or coils, depending.
Also check fuel pump pressure and delivery.
Peter
On Jun 3, 2012, at 9:00 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
A young man who has made quite a favorable impression on me is
having car trouble, and is asking for help. Being a Shovey gasser,
I don't have any/many ideas, so I thought i'd put it out here and
see if y'all have any ideas and suggestions.
Begin Quote:
Would love any ideas you can give me on the issue I'm having on my
car('98 Chevy Camaro 3.8 V6). It is misfiring on acceleration, and
fairly badly. The injectors have been replaced, the spark plugs
and wires have been replaced, the heads were recently reworked with
a valve grind, all new engine gaskets, and the Idle Air Control
Valve(IACV) was recently replaced as well. It idles well, but
misfires as soon as a load is placed on the engine, any load at
all. The less the acceleration, the less the misfire, and vice
versa. It is very bad when accelerating in a high gear at low
engine rpm. The shop diagnosed misfires on multiple cylinders, and
recommended I change the injectors and plugs, which I did, and of
course it didn't solve it. I will talk with the shop tomorrow,
that's another issue.
Ran a compression check today on all cylinders, the numbers were
quite good, all in the 180-205 psi range, and the minimum for this
engine is 100 psi. Suspected the Catalytic Converter of a possible
blockage, so I removed the exhaust pipes at the manifolds and test
drove, still misfiring as usual.
Would love any ideas you have, sir! Thank you.
End quote.
He is a Navy veteran, so I'd appreciate any ideas to help him.
Thanks.
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Re: [MBZ] tires on the cheap
Cool - can I bring my new tires for you to mount and balance? :-) On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I order my tires from tirerack or online from discount tire and mount them with my tire machine and balance them with my computer balacer Sent from my iPhone -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT request for help
Replace Cheby with Mercedes
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.netwrote:
Coil.
Or coils, depending.
Also check fuel pump pressure and delivery.
Peter
On Jun 3, 2012, at 9:00 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
A young man who has made quite a favorable impression on me is having car
trouble, and is asking for help. Being a Shovey gasser, I don't have
any/many ideas, so I thought i'd put it out here and see if y'all have any
ideas and suggestions.
Begin Quote:
Would love any ideas you can give me on the issue I'm having on my
car('98 Chevy Camaro 3.8 V6). It is misfiring on acceleration, and fairly
badly. The injectors have been replaced, the spark plugs and wires have
been replaced, the heads were recently reworked with a valve grind, all new
engine gaskets, and the Idle Air Control Valve(IACV) was recently replaced
as well. It idles well, but misfires as soon as a load is placed on the
engine, any load at all. The less the acceleration, the less the misfire,
and vice versa. It is very bad when accelerating in a high gear at low
engine rpm. The shop diagnosed misfires on multiple cylinders, and
recommended I change the injectors and plugs, which I did, and of course it
didn't solve it. I will talk with the shop tomorrow, that's another issue.
Ran a compression check today on all cylinders, the numbers were quite
good, all in the 180-205 psi range, and the minimum for this engine is 100
psi. Suspected the Catalytic Converter of a possible blockage, so I
removed the exhaust pipes at the manifolds and test drove, still misfiring
as usual.
Would love any ideas you have, sir! Thank you.
End quote.
He is a Navy veteran, so I'd appreciate any ideas to help him. Thanks.
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Re: [MBZ] tires on the cheap
Sure, just bring some meat to BBQ and invite the list! Cool - can I bring my new tires for you to mount and balance? :-) On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I order my tires from tirerack or online from discount tire and mount them with my tire machine and balance them with my computer balacer Sent from my iPhone -- OK Don 2001 ML320 1992 300D 2.5T 1990 300D 2.5T ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tires on the cheap
anytime On 6/3/2012 9:15 PM, OK Don wrote: Cool - can I bring my new tires for you to mount and balance? :-) On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Kaleb C. Striplinka...@striplin.netwrote: I order my tires from tirerack or online from discount tire and mount them with my tire machine and balance them with my computer balacer Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT request for help
Since it does not appear to be a compression issue, I would look at the
coil, distributor, timing chain, cam sensor or equivalent (adjustment for
wear in the timing chain?), or something already changed that was defective
or not the correct part. Perhaps put a scope on the ignition and see if it
is trying to fire properly.
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 8:23 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
Replace Cheby with Mercedes
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
wrote:
Coil.
Or coils, depending.
Also check fuel pump pressure and delivery.
Peter
On Jun 3, 2012, at 9:00 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
A young man who has made quite a favorable impression on me is having
car
trouble, and is asking for help. Being a Shovey gasser, I don't have
any/many ideas, so I thought i'd put it out here and see if y'all have
any
ideas and suggestions.
Begin Quote:
Would love any ideas you can give me on the issue I'm having on my
car('98 Chevy Camaro 3.8 V6). It is misfiring on acceleration, and
fairly
badly. The injectors have been replaced, the spark plugs and wires have
been replaced, the heads were recently reworked with a valve grind, all
new
engine gaskets, and the Idle Air Control Valve(IACV) was recently
replaced
as well. It idles well, but misfires as soon as a load is placed on the
engine, any load at all. The less the acceleration, the less the
misfire,
and vice versa. It is very bad when accelerating in a high gear at low
engine rpm. The shop diagnosed misfires on multiple cylinders, and
recommended I change the injectors and plugs, which I did, and of
course it
didn't solve it. I will talk with the shop tomorrow, that's another
issue.
Ran a compression check today on all cylinders, the numbers were quite
good, all in the 180-205 psi range, and the minimum for this engine is
100
psi. Suspected the Catalytic Converter of a possible blockage, so I
removed the exhaust pipes at the manifolds and test drove, still
misfiring
as usual.
Would love any ideas you have, sir! Thank you.
End quote.
He is a Navy veteran, so I'd appreciate any ideas to help him. Thanks.
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[MBZ] fleabay fleas
Great quote from a fleabay ad daily drivers until recently but are currently inoperative. both were being run on veggie oil and performed perfectly until parked. So they say the Diesels don't run, but ran perfectly on WVO until they were parked. Then he goes on to say the injectors were robbed form one car to put in the other.Nice. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Voiding the Warranty
Well, yeah, but sometimes I decide I want to grill something for supper and do not want to deal with a charcoal fire. Charcoal tastes a lot better, but when you want it right now, gas is the answer (which pains me to say). --R On 6/3/12 6:55 PM, Allan Streib wrote: I use charcoal. You can make that really hot just use a lot and pile it up. If you want less heat, use less and spread it out. Or move it off to the side and grill indirectly. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT request for help
Peter Frederick wrote: Coil. Or coils, depending. That's what I was thinking. Anyway, it's a 1998, so check OBDII for misfire events. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] was Hyundai Sonata suddenly accelerates now golf ball catch
Fs: AMG with slight hail damage. Walt On Jun 3, 2012 9:34 PM, Barry Stark barryst...@verizon.net wrote: H - I was surfing after following Gerry's link and found this... http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1076623_mercedes-breaks-world-record-by-c atching-golf-ball-with-sls-amg http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1023454_toyota-prius-taxi-tops- 34mi-dispels-battery-myth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WTB: 1987 300TD in better than average condition
Should be easy to find - they are way underpriced IMO. On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 9:44 PM, Rolf r...@winmutt.com wrote: Will fly and drive -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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