[MBZ] I think I need this
If it can't pick up a GPS signal, the all-new S-Class can actually determine where it is based in part on the sun's position in the sky. Now that's a bright idea. Learn more in our S-Class app: http://shout.lt/h1hs --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
OK, I saw the key two words the second time I read it - in part. Sun can give you only ONE line of positions (LOP) - a huge circle on the earth; ya gotta know about where ya are for this info to be any good, i. e. - dead reckoning (RD), for example - projecting info from last known position to reckon/guess present position. Using old info plus sun LOP, you can reckon/guess a most probable position MPP - lot better than nothing and is neat, anyway - handheld astrotracker. Now, if it could track stars --. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 10:27 AM Subject: [MBZ] I think I need this If it can't pick up a GPS signal, the all-new S-Class can actually determine where it is based in part on the sun's position in the sky. Now that's a bright idea. Learn more in our S-Class app: http://shout.lt/h1hs --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
Well, I MEANT dead reckoning (DR). It really comes from deduction reckoning and should be ded reckoning, but everybody calls it dead, and, of course, it nearly is with all of the equipment these days carrying a running fix. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think I need this OK, I saw the key two words the second time I read it - in part. Sun can give you only ONE line of positions (LOP) - a huge circle on the earth; ya gotta know about where ya are for this info to be any good, i. e. - dead reckoning (RD), for example - projecting info from last known position to reckon/guess present position. Using old info plus sun LOP, you can reckon/guess a most probable position MPP - lot better than nothing and is neat, anyway - handheld astrotracker. Now, if it could track stars --. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 10:27 AM Subject: [MBZ] I think I need this If it can't pick up a GPS signal, the all-new S-Class can actually determine where it is based in part on the sun's position in the sky. Now that's a bright idea. Learn more in our S-Class app: http://shout.lt/h1hs --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
'Can't get site to open. 'Wonder if I can find the app? Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 10:27 AM Subject: [MBZ] I think I need this If it can't pick up a GPS signal, the all-new S-Class can actually determine where it is based in part on the sun's position in the sky. Now that's a bright idea. Learn more in our S-Class app: http://shout.lt/h1hs --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
WILTON wrote: OK, I saw the key two words the second time I read it - in part. Sun can give you only ONE line of positions (LOP) - a huge circle on the earth; ya gotta know about where ya are for this info to be any good, i. e. - dead reckoning (RD), for example - projecting info from last known position to reckon/guess present position. Using old info plus sun LOP, you can reckon/guess a most probable position MPP - lot better than nothing and is neat, anyway - handheld astrotracker. Now, if it could track stars --. ;) Well, if you know the time, date, and position of the sun... I can imagine the car knowing the time and date to some fraction of a second, but would it know the angle of the sun well enough to locate itself within 200 miles or so? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
Just downloaded sun surveyor lite (free), one of 22 apps -others up to $20, etc. Shows position of sun based on PP (present position). Easy for it to do inverse based on possible position - info since last fix (known position). Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think I need this Well, I MEANT dead reckoning (DR). It really comes from deduction reckoning and should be ded reckoning, but everybody calls it dead, and, of course, it nearly is with all of the equipment these days carrying a running fix. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think I need this OK, I saw the key two words the second time I read it - in part. Sun can give you only ONE line of positions (LOP) - a huge circle on the earth; ya gotta know about where ya are for this info to be any good, i. e. - dead reckoning (RD), for example - projecting info from last known position to reckon/guess present position. Using old info plus sun LOP, you can reckon/guess a most probable position MPP - lot better than nothing and is neat, anyway - handheld astrotracker. Now, if it could track stars --. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 10:27 AM Subject: [MBZ] I think I need this If it can't pick up a GPS signal, the all-new S-Class can actually determine where it is based in part on the sun's position in the sky. Now that's a bright idea. Learn more in our S-Class app: http://shout.lt/h1hs --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
Yes. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] I think I need this WILTON wrote: OK, I saw the key two words the second time I read it - in part. Sun can give you only ONE line of positions (LOP) - a huge circle on the earth; ya gotta know about where ya are for this info to be any good, i. e. - dead reckoning (RD), for example - projecting info from last known position to reckon/guess present position. Using old info plus sun LOP, you can reckon/guess a most probable position MPP - lot better than nothing and is neat, anyway - handheld astrotracker. Now, if it could track stars --. ;) Well, if you know the time, date, and position of the sun... I can imagine the car knowing the time and date to some fraction of a second, but would it know the angle of the sun well enough to locate itself within 200 miles or so? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - window/wall heat pumps
We are considering options for heating/cooling at least part of our 700 sq. ft. guest house. It's now heated by an open flame propane heater, and cooled by a small window unit A/C. The current units are in/on the west side, the living/dining area. They don't do a good job of heating/cooling the bed room on the east side, so are thinking of a one piece window/wall unit in the bedroom. We'll be replacing a 72sliding patio door with a 72 X 48 window, with this proposed unit under it. Anyone has experience/recommendations with these? The use will be occasional, a week or so at a time, or longer when the son comes back from Africa and is job hunting. -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - window/wall heat pumps
OK Don wrote: We are considering options for heating/cooling at least part of our 700 sq. ft. guest house. It's now heated by an open flame propane heater, and cooled by a small window unit A/C. The current units are in/on the west side, the living/dining area. They don't do a good job of heating/cooling the bed room on the east side, so are thinking of a one piece window/wall unit in the bedroom. We'll be replacing a 72sliding patio door with a 72 X 48 window, with this proposed unit under it. Anyone has experience/recommendations with these? The use will be occasional, a week or so at a time, or longer when the son comes back from Africa and is job hunting. I've got one of these in my living room. Indoor unit should be within a foot or two of the ceiling. 23 SEER is a laboratory measure, running at its most efficient speed. In real life, the compressor is variable speed and spends little time running at perfect efficiency, but it still blows away any 13 SEER equipment. http://www.amazon.com/9RLFW-Mounted-Single-Split-SEER-9/dp/B0057GHQFE Does a good job in the 300 sq ft living room and adjoining hallway, but very little heat from it makes its way through doorways into other rooms. If I set it for 68° on a warm day, it keeps most of the house around 76° or so, which is comfortable enough in low humidity (and it's great at dehumidifying the house). I'm getting ready to put in a central heat pump so the whole house can be at 75° in the summer and I don't freeze in the living room. Was thinking of selling the Fujitsu that was new in December with a 15' Mitsubishi line set for $1000 or so. I was surprised to find it at Amazon for under $1300, I thought this was a $1500 mail order unit. IMO, anybody with torque wrenches and a good vacuum pump can install these if they have general DIY experience. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - window/wall heat pumps
Through-the-wall heat pump with electric backup/emer heat. Wilton - Original Message - From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 11:43 AM Subject: [MBZ] OT - window/wall heat pumps We are considering options for heating/cooling at least part of our 700 sq. ft. guest house. It's now heated by an open flame propane heater, and cooled by a small window unit A/C. The current units are in/on the west side, the living/dining area. They don't do a good job of heating/cooling the bed room on the east side, so are thinking of a one piece window/wall unit in the bedroom. We'll be replacing a 72sliding patio door with a 72 X 48 window, with this proposed unit under it. Anyone has experience/recommendations with these? The use will be occasional, a week or so at a time, or longer when the son comes back from Africa and is job hunting. -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - window/wall heat pumps
I agree with Mitch. I put in a 4-unit mini-split heat pump/AC system in my addition, my HVAC guy is supposed to be coming sometime this week to get the lines connected and leak tested, and when I get the new power line run I can power it up. Mine is a 36k BTU outdoor unit with 2-9k and 2-12k head units, my addition is about 800 ft2 with a large loft and very high ceiling. I have one unit in the bathroom (9k), one in the bedroom (9k), one in the kitchen (12k), and one in the loft (12k). The kitchen is open to the loft, I have ceiling fans in every space too so should be able to keep things comfy. I ran a calculation on the new addition (required to get my permits) that came up with an 18k load on the hottest/coldest day around here (the addition is structural insulated panels and good windows/doors) so the system should be able to handle the load very well. The outdoor unit throttles way down to handle demands from the indoor units, whichever is running and calling for heat or cool. That is probably more than you would need for your back house. The units are very easy to install, cut a hole in the wall for your lines or run your lines in an existing wall from above or below, get power to the outdoor unit, hook everything up, and your in bidness. My whole deal was like $5k with the refrigerant lines and units and wire, maybe a bit less, certainly less than a regular type of system with ducts or whatever. Those things are very popular in Europe and elsewhere, where retrofitting old buildings and energy efficiency is a big deal. From what I read about these things, people see immediate drops in their electric bill by huge amounts, payback can be fairly quick, even faster if you do it yourself (or most of it -- warranty requires a licensed HVAC guy to do the charging and initial start-up but that is not a lot). All that said, with just one room you are looking to condition, there are some window units that heat and cool for pretty cheap, and those motel type through-wall things, though noisy, are fairly cheap too (I see them on Craigslist occasionally). The mini-splits are very quiet, and I think there might even be some sorta one-piece kind of units with the outdoor part mounted on the wall right behind the indoor unit, with a small hole for the refrigerant line. Kind of a hybrid between the true mini-split and a motel thing, but a lot quieter as the compressor is all separate and outside. --R On 6/30/13 12:06 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: OK Don wrote: We are considering options for heating/cooling at least part of our 700 sq. ft. guest house. It's now heated by an open flame propane heater, and cooled by a small window unit A/C. The current units are in/on the west side, the living/dining area. They don't do a good job of heating/cooling the bed room on the east side, so are thinking of a one piece window/wall unit in the bedroom. We'll be replacing a 72sliding patio door with a 72 X 48 window, with this proposed unit under it. Anyone has experience/recommendations with these? The use will be occasional, a week or so at a time, or longer when the son comes back from Africa and is job hunting. I've got one of these in my living room. Indoor unit should be within a foot or two of the ceiling. 23 SEER is a laboratory measure, running at its most efficient speed. In real life, the compressor is variable speed and spends little time running at perfect efficiency, but it still blows away any 13 SEER equipment. http://www.amazon.com/9RLFW-Mounted-Single-Split-SEER-9/dp/B0057GHQFE Does a good job in the 300 sq ft living room and adjoining hallway, but very little heat from it makes its way through doorways into other rooms. If I set it for 68° on a warm day, it keeps most of the house around 76° or so, which is comfortable enough in low humidity (and it's great at dehumidifying the house). I'm getting ready to put in a central heat pump so the whole house can be at 75° in the summer and I don't freeze in the living room. Was thinking of selling the Fujitsu that was new in December with a 15' Mitsubishi line set for $1000 or so. I was surprised to find it at Amazon for under $1300, I thought this was a $1500 mail order unit. IMO, anybody with torque wrenches and a good vacuum pump can install these if they have general DIY experience. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - window/wall heat pumps
Cooled air is heavy, so AC unit should be mounted as high as possible. High discharge of cold air will disperse across the area and displace warm air as it falls to the floor. The warm air will be vented by the return air for the AC unit. Your system effective cooling will be more satisfactory. The creature comfort factor will increase. Suggest you consider this. On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 8:43 AM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: We are considering options for heating/cooling at least part of our 700 sq. ft. guest house. It's now heated by an open flame propane heater, and cooled by a small window unit A/C. The current units are in/on the west side, the living/dining area. They don't do a good job of heating/cooling the bed room on the east side, so are thinking of a one piece window/wall unit in the bedroom. We'll be replacing a 72sliding patio door with a 72 X 48 window, with this proposed unit under it. Anyone has experience/recommendations with these? The use will be occasional, a week or so at a time, or longer when the son comes back from Africa and is job hunting. -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - window/wall heat pumps
Cooled air is heavy, so AC unit should be mounted as high as possible. But if it also heats then the opposite is true. I suggest a ceiling fan, which will take care of wrong-sex air. A low-mount wall pump would be more aesthetic, heat would be good as-is, and a ceiling fan, even on its own, is excellent in cooling season. Start with it, and add AC once it's getting uncomfortable. I'm extremely fond of the Hunter Original fan. Oil-bath bearings, cast-iron frame. Extremely quiet, durable, and strong. We have two. The other three in the house (bedrooms, kitchen) are Hunter also, but the sealed ball-bearing kind. Also quiet. They probably get 10% of the use of the main living area fans. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - window/wall heat pumps
Rich Thomas wrote: I ran a calculation on the new addition (required to get my permits) that came up with an 18k load on the hottest/coldest day If your manual J calc (a conservative calculation) came up with 18k, why did you install 36k? Seems like an outside unit that can put out 18-24k at 17° would have been ample. Maybe a 24k outside with 6+6+9+9 inside? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T
Thanks to all for answers to my windshield condensation question. ___ Now for another, more serious situation - the A/C in my '91 300D is not holding a charge very long. I had it filled last year and it lasted all season but this year it needed another refill but it failed to last more than a month or so - it's still cool but not cold. As I understand it, the W124 has a history of leaking in the condenser (if that's what's under the dash) ;-) so it sounds like the dash must come out. I could do the dash RR but the condenser RR would probably be beyond my ability. It looks like there are lotsof things that can leak behind the dash - the evaporatoror the Heat Exchanger and their related tubing for instance. Looks like the whole dash might need to come out At least my windshield condensation problem will be solved! ;-) Has anyone tried the *Stop Leak* in a can? Was it successful? Has anyone had a shop do this work? Any idea what the cost was? I'm in the greater Richmond Va area and labor prices are not too bad so far. I'll call my favorite shop Monday and see what they estimate the cost will be... Thanks - LarryT '91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Honda overheating and a question about a tool
Jaime wrote: It's possible the gauge is actually a fancy idiot light. That is, it stays in the middle after normal operating temperature is reached and doesn't increase anymore until some defined too hot point is reached. Modern cars are funny like that. Wow. The disadvantages of a gauge without it's benefits. Not what I would engineer - but then if I engineered a car it's likely no one would buy it 'cause it would be unmarketably expensive. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T
Larry, The W140 chassis cars were also plagued with the dreaded evaporator leaks as well. I believe that Tarek, the former owner of my S500, had leak sealer used by his mechanic to seal up the system on the S500. I know Tarek is around but not sure if he can shed any light on this. Suffice to say it can be done as long as the leak isn't substantial. I know people have posted things n the list in the past on various methods and products - you might want to search the archives. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 30, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks to all for answers to my windshield condensation question. ___ Now for another, more serious situation - the A/C in my '91 300D is not holding a charge very long. I had it filled last year and it lasted all season but this year it needed another refill but it failed to last more than a month or so - it's still cool but not cold. As I understand it, the W124 has a history of leaking in the condenser (if that's what's under the dash) ;-) so it sounds like the dash must come out. I could do the dash RR but the condenser RR would probably be beyond my ability. It looks like there are lotsof things that can leak behind the dash - the evaporatoror the Heat Exchanger and their related tubing for instance. Looks like the whole dash might need to come out At least my windshield condensation problem will be solved! ;-) Has anyone tried the *Stop Leak* in a can? Was it successful? Has anyone had a shop do this work? Any idea what the cost was? I'm in the greater Richmond Va area and labor prices are not too bad so far. I'll call my favorite shop Monday and see what they estimate the cost will be... Thanks - LarryT '91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - window/wall heat pumps
I like to have some margin. Plus the way these things are set up for 4 head units you can get a smaller outdoor unit. And the space is such that I think having the 2 big units for the loft (which is open to the kitchen below) and the kitchen, where I am going to put a big cooktop in, ovens and such, will be able to keep it cool when things are cranking. --R On 6/30/13 1:14 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: I ran a calculation on the new addition (required to get my permits) that came up with an 18k load on the hottest/coldest day If your manual J calc (a conservative calculation) came up with 18k, why did you install 36k? Seems like an outside unit that can put out 18-24k at 17° would have been ample. Maybe a 24k outside with 6+6+9+9 inside? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T
Put in a small can of UV dye and get a UV light and the yellow glasses, and see if you can see any apparent leaks around all the fittings and stuff that is visible. --R On 6/30/13 2:27 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Larry, The W140 chassis cars were also plagued with the dreaded evaporator leaks as well. I believe that Tarek, the former owner of my S500, had leak sealer used by his mechanic to seal up the system on the S500. I know Tarek is around but not sure if he can shed any light on this. Suffice to say it can be done as long as the leak isn't substantial. I know people have posted things n the list in the past on various methods and products - you might want to search the archives. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jun 30, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Thanks to all for answers to my windshield condensation question. ___ Now for another, more serious situation - the A/C in my '91 300D is not holding a charge very long. I had it filled last year and it lasted all season but this year it needed another refill but it failed to last more than a month or so - it's still cool but not cold. As I understand it, the W124 has a history of leaking in the condenser (if that's what's under the dash) ;-) so it sounds like the dash must come out. I could do the dash RR but the condenser RR would probably be beyond my ability. It looks like there are lotsof things that can leak behind the dash - the evaporatoror the Heat Exchanger and their related tubing for instance. Looks like the whole dash might need to come out At least my windshield condensation problem will be solved! ;-) Has anyone tried the *Stop Leak* in a can? Was it successful? Has anyone had a shop do this work? Any idea what the cost was? I'm in the greater Richmond Va area and labor prices are not too bad so far. I'll call my favorite shop Monday and see what they estimate the cost will be... Thanks - LarryT '91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - window/wall heat pumps
CAN'T --R On 6/30/13 3:25 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: I like to have some margin. Plus the way these things are set up for 4 head units you can get a smaller outdoor unit. And the space is such that I think having the 2 big units for the loft (which is open to the kitchen below) and the kitchen, where I am going to put a big cooktop in, ovens and such, will be able to keep it cool when things are cranking. --R On 6/30/13 1:14 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: I ran a calculation on the new addition (required to get my permits) that came up with an 18k load on the hottest/coldest day If your manual J calc (a conservative calculation) came up with 18k, why did you install 36k? Seems like an outside unit that can put out 18-24k at 17° would have been ample. Maybe a 24k outside with 6+6+9+9 inside? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T
There are lots of things that can leak on that system besides the evaporator (which is the part inside the dash). Have some do a proper leak check with dye and see what they find. Changing the evaporator is a 16 hour job by the service book, and it took me longer the first time. If you find dye in the condensate drain when checking for leaks, the evaporator is leaking. Everything else is in the engine compartment. While i have two bad evaporators, the other things I've replace over the years on these cars are: compressor manifold seal o-rings (twice). front compressor seal (twice) o-rings in the lines many times high pressure line between condenser and receiver/dryer (two so far, probably a third on soon) Condenser on the TE pipe manifold to compressor o-rings (twice). The later evaporators with aluminum tubing and aluminum coils are not a problem, but the original ones with copper piping fail with monotonous regularity, differential expansion does in the crimped connections between piping and coils every time. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T
Just sent you write-up of evapectomy on my '87 300D in Jun '08. I think stealer wanted $2600 (may have been $2300) or so to do it. I'll try to find it in archives. My local A/C guy wouldn't do it. Parts, including evaporator, expansion valve, dryer, hoses, vac actuators/modules, (probably some little stuff I don't remember), etc., from Rusty cost about $600. Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 2:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T Thanks to all for answers to my windshield condensation question. ___ Now for another, more serious situation - the A/C in my '91 300D is not holding a charge very long. I had it filled last year and it lasted all season but this year it needed another refill but it failed to last more than a month or so - it's still cool but not cold. As I understand it, the W124 has a history of leaking in the condenser (if that's what's under the dash) ;-) so it sounds like the dash must come out. I could do the dash RR but the condenser RR would probably be beyond my ability. It looks like there are lotsof things that can leak behind the dash - the evaporatoror the Heat Exchanger and their related tubing for instance. Looks like the whole dash might need to come out At least my windshield condensation problem will be solved! ;-) Has anyone tried the *Stop Leak* in a can? Was it successful? Has anyone had a shop do this work? Any idea what the cost was? I'm in the greater Richmond Va area and labor prices are not too bad so far. I'll call my favorite shop Monday and see what they estimate the cost will be... Thanks - LarryT '91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T
Well, I tried to send it, anyway, to 102tur...@comcast.net Got undeliverable msg - Not our customer. WT etc? Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T Just sent you write-up of evapectomy on my '87 300D in Jun '08. I think stealer wanted $2600 (may have been $2300) or so to do it. I'll try to find it in archives. My local A/C guy wouldn't do it. Parts, including evaporator, expansion valve, dryer, hoses, vac actuators/modules, (probably some little stuff I don't remember), etc., from Rusty cost about $600. Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 2:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T Thanks to all for answers to my windshield condensation question. ___ Now for another, more serious situation - the A/C in my '91 300D is not holding a charge very long. I had it filled last year and it lasted all season but this year it needed another refill but it failed to last more than a month or so - it's still cool but not cold. As I understand it, the W124 has a history of leaking in the condenser (if that's what's under the dash) ;-) so it sounds like the dash must come out. I could do the dash RR but the condenser RR would probably be beyond my ability. It looks like there are lotsof things that can leak behind the dash - the evaporatoror the Heat Exchanger and their related tubing for instance. Looks like the whole dash might need to come out At least my windshield condensation problem will be solved! ;-) Has anyone tried the *Stop Leak* in a can? Was it successful? Has anyone had a shop do this work? Any idea what the cost was? I'm in the greater Richmond Va area and labor prices are not too bad so far. I'll call my favorite shop Monday and see what they estimate the cost will be... Thanks - LarryT '91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T
WILTON wrote: Well, I tried to send it, anyway, to 102tur...@comcast.net Got undeliverable msg - Not our customer. WT etc? Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net You must have typed instead of cut and paste. That's el zero two turner, not one zero 2 turner. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T
Yep. Thnks. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T WILTON wrote: Well, I tried to send it, anyway, to 102tur...@comcast.net Got undeliverable msg - Not our customer. WT etc? Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net You must have typed instead of cut and paste. That's el zero two turner, not one zero 2 turner. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T
Yep; little el works better. Thnks. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T Yep. Thnks. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T WILTON wrote: Well, I tried to send it, anyway, to 102tur...@comcast.net Got undeliverable msg - Not our customer. WT etc? Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net You must have typed instead of cut and paste. That's el zero two turner, not one zero 2 turner. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T
Can also read running commentary from me and others daily (and many times daily) during my evapectomy in archives starting about 1 Jun '08. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T Just sent you write-up of evapectomy on my '87 300D in Jun '08. I think stealer wanted $2600 (may have been $2300) or so to do it. I'll try to find it in archives. My local A/C guy wouldn't do it. Parts, including evaporator, expansion valve, dryer, hoses, vac actuators/modules, (probably some little stuff I don't remember), etc., from Rusty cost about $600. Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 2:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T Thanks to all for answers to my windshield condensation question. ___ Now for another, more serious situation - the A/C in my '91 300D is not holding a charge very long. I had it filled last year and it lasted all season but this year it needed another refill but it failed to last more than a month or so - it's still cool but not cold. As I understand it, the W124 has a history of leaking in the condenser (if that's what's under the dash) ;-) so it sounds like the dash must come out. I could do the dash RR but the condenser RR would probably be beyond my ability. It looks like there are lotsof things that can leak behind the dash - the evaporatoror the Heat Exchanger and their related tubing for instance. Looks like the whole dash might need to come out At least my windshield condensation problem will be solved! ;-) Has anyone tried the *Stop Leak* in a can? Was it successful? Has anyone had a shop do this work? Any idea what the cost was? I'm in the greater Richmond Va area and labor prices are not too bad so far. I'll call my favorite shop Monday and see what they estimate the cost will be... Thanks - LarryT '91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T
I rec'd it so you either figured out the problem or the error note you rec'd was incorrect (which happens) usually people use a numeric 1 for the 1st letter when it is actually a L. Wow! Over $2k! that means I do it myself or it won't get done. When did they find a fix? I could get a 95-98 300D and be better off with new (er) technology... Thanks! Larry On 6/30/2013 4:29 PM, WILTON wrote: Well, I tried to send it, anyway, to 102tur...@comcast.net Got undeliverable msg - Not our customer. WT etc? Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T Just sent you write-up of evapectomy on my '87 300D in Jun '08. I think stealer wanted $2600 (may have been $2300) or so to do it. I'll try to find it in archives. My local A/C guy wouldn't do it. Parts, including evaporator, expansion valve, dryer, hoses, vac actuators/modules, (probably some little stuff I don't remember), etc., from Rusty cost about $600. Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 2:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T Thanks to all for answers to my windshield condensation question. ___ Now for another, more serious situation - the A/C in my '91 300D is not holding a charge very long. I had it filled last year and it lasted all season but this year it needed another refill but it failed to last more than a month or so - it's still cool but not cold. As I understand it, the W124 has a history of leaking in the condenser (if that's what's under the dash) ;-) so it sounds like the dash must come out. I could do the dash RR but the condenser RR would probably be beyond my ability. It looks like there are lotsof things that can leak behind the dash - the evaporatoror the Heat Exchanger and their related tubing for instance. Looks like the whole dash might need to come out At least my windshield condensation problem will be solved! ;-) Has anyone tried the *Stop Leak* in a can? Was it successful? Has anyone had a shop do this work? Any idea what the cost was? I'm in the greater Richmond Va area and labor prices are not too bad so far. I'll call my favorite shop Monday and see what they estimate the cost will be... Thanks - LarryT '91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T
Wilton, re the thread -- great idea to review those emails -- i'll go through them and save the ones of value to a newbie to evapectomy's. ;-) Larry On 6/30/2013 4:59 PM, WILTON wrote: Can also read running commentary from me and others daily (and many times daily) during my evapectomy in archives starting about 1 Jun '08. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T Just sent you write-up of evapectomy on my '87 300D in Jun '08. I think stealer wanted $2600 (may have been $2300) or so to do it. I'll try to find it in archives. My local A/C guy wouldn't do it. Parts, including evaporator, expansion valve, dryer, hoses, vac actuators/modules, (probably some little stuff I don't remember), etc., from Rusty cost about $600. Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 2:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T Thanks to all for answers to my windshield condensation question. ___ Now for another, more serious situation - the A/C in my '91 300D is not holding a charge very long. I had it filled last year and it lasted all season but this year it needed another refill but it failed to last more than a month or so - it's still cool but not cold. As I understand it, the W124 has a history of leaking in the condenser (if that's what's under the dash) ;-) so it sounds like the dash must come out. I could do the dash RR but the condenser RR would probably be beyond my ability. It looks like there are lotsof things that can leak behind the dash - the evaporatoror the Heat Exchanger and their related tubing for instance. Looks like the whole dash might need to come out At least my windshield condensation problem will be solved! ;-) Has anyone tried the *Stop Leak* in a can? Was it successful? Has anyone had a shop do this work? Any idea what the cost was? I'm in the greater Richmond Va area and labor prices are not too bad so far. I'll call my favorite shop Monday and see what they estimate the cost will be... Thanks - LarryT '91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T
Larry T wrote: Wow! Over $2k! that means I do it myself or it won't get done. When did they find a fix? I could get a 95-98 300D and be better off with new (er) technology... Yes, I think it's cheaper when the front springs fall off your W210 than when your freon leaks out of your W124. OTOH, you have the option of driving the W124 when the A/C isn't working... Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Break roters
Did we decide that the paint on the new discs gets to stay on or should come off? The 42-0220 instructions say, Replacement brake discs are protected against corrosion with nitro-cellulose paint. For this reason the corrosion protection on these discs must be removed and the discs degreased before installation. This can be accomplished best with a high-pressure hot water cleaning unit. Since my high-pressure hot water cleaning unit is out of service at present, I tried some acetone, which did nothing. I did not try hot water but I am thinking that is not going to take the stuff off. The link henifay posted suggests to leave it on, which I have done so far. BTW the instructions in the box with the rotor is written in Germglish, at least the box says the part was made in Germany but the instructions read like Chinglish. They are pretty funny but mostly just telling you that loosing you're breaks can kill you. I got one side done this afternoon in between tstorms, remembered I had a tube of grease in the garage from doing the other SD, for a minute there I thought I might need to go to the stealer and get some (and take some grease with me...) but I am good to go. AFter I do the other side I need to do that runout business to get the bearings set right, I have not done that before (my bad on the other car) so any suggestions would be appreciated. I have a dial gauge with a magnetic base. (Yes I can read the instructions, but experience is better...) --R http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/44908-does-one-need-remove-grey-coating-surface-new-e500-brake-rotor.html Hendrik who sneaks a peek on other forums now and then The last set of disks that I got from Q were painted as well. I wiped the paint off with a rag soaked in acetone, IIRC. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Dan Penoffd...@penoff.com wrote: I stopped by the stealership to pick up my disks this morning, along with some replacement screws and brake paste. Holy mother of pearl those things are heavy! They seem to be covered with a primer gray colored spray. I wonder if it's something I should try and clean off the surfaces first? Never seen anything like it before. -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Break roters
I did mine yesterday morning and went right out and bedded the pads (sure the locals liked me doing 60 mph down our streets.) Stuff came right off with no indication that it gummed up the pads. For that matter, bits of it came off just from handling the rotors during installation. It wasn't very thick. Dan On Jun 30, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Did we decide that the paint on the new discs gets to stay on or should come off? The 42-0220 instructions say, Replacement brake discs are protected against corrosion with nitro-cellulose paint. For this reason the corrosion protection on these discs must be removed and the discs degreased before installation. This can be accomplished best with a high-pressure hot water cleaning unit. Since my high-pressure hot water cleaning unit is out of service at present, I tried some acetone, which did nothing. I did not try hot water but I am thinking that is not going to take the stuff off. The link henifay posted suggests to leave it on, which I have done so far. BTW the instructions in the box with the rotor is written in Germglish, at least the box says the part was made in Germany but the instructions read like Chinglish. They are pretty funny but mostly just telling you that loosing you're breaks can kill you. I got one side done this afternoon in between tstorms, remembered I had a tube of grease in the garage from doing the other SD, for a minute there I thought I might need to go to the stealer and get some (and take some grease with me...) but I am good to go. AFter I do the other side I need to do that runout business to get the bearings set right, I have not done that before (my bad on the other car) so any suggestions would be appreciated. I have a dial gauge with a magnetic base. (Yes I can read the instructions, but experience is better...) --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Big Brother?
Hide in the crowd, eh? This picture was taken with a camera 70,000 x 30,000 pixels. Place the cursor anywhere in the multitude and left double click a couple times. It will continue to show the people much closer, when you double left click again or click more if needed. There were thousands of persons and yet one can spot and recognize any face. Imagine what this means. Can you spell automatic facial recognition? http://www.gigapixel.com/image/gigapan-canucks-g7.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T
Please do a proper and complete leak leak before getting into it - make sure ya really hafta do it. ;) It is NO SMALL matter. Well, it is LOTSA small stuff/steps, but it's no small project. Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T Wilton, re the thread -- great idea to review those emails -- i'll go through them and save the ones of value to a newbie to evapectomy's. ;-) Larry On 6/30/2013 4:59 PM, WILTON wrote: Can also read running commentary from me and others daily (and many times daily) during my evapectomy in archives starting about 1 Jun '08. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T Just sent you write-up of evapectomy on my '87 300D in Jun '08. I think stealer wanted $2600 (may have been $2300) or so to do it. I'll try to find it in archives. My local A/C guy wouldn't do it. Parts, including evaporator, expansion valve, dryer, hoses, vac actuators/modules, (probably some little stuff I don't remember), etc., from Rusty cost about $600. Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 2:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T Thanks to all for answers to my windshield condensation question. ___ Now for another, more serious situation - the A/C in my '91 300D is not holding a charge very long. I had it filled last year and it lasted all season but this year it needed another refill but it failed to last more than a month or so - it's still cool but not cold. As I understand it, the W124 has a history of leaking in the condenser (if that's what's under the dash) ;-) so it sounds like the dash must come out. I could do the dash RR but the condenser RR would probably be beyond my ability. It looks like there are lotsof things that can leak behind the dash - the evaporatoror the Heat Exchanger and their related tubing for instance. Looks like the whole dash might need to come out At least my windshield condensation problem will be solved! ;-) Has anyone tried the *Stop Leak* in a can? Was it successful? Has anyone had a shop do this work? Any idea what the cost was? I'm in the greater Richmond Va area and labor prices are not too bad so far. I'll call my favorite shop Monday and see what they estimate the cost will be... Thanks - LarryT '91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - window/wall heat pumps
Yes - a ceiling fan is part of the equation - mixes all that air together and provides surface cooling on the skin. Lowes has a cheap window AC/Heat pump/elect. strip heat unit for $435 now that is big enough - might try it. http://www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?partNumber=337173-36634-LRA08PZU1catalogId=10051storeId=10151langId=-1productId=3477347 On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Cooled air is heavy, so AC unit should be mounted as high as possible. But if it also heats then the opposite is true. I suggest a ceiling fan, which will take care of wrong-sex air. A low-mount wall pump would be more aesthetic, heat would be good as-is, and a ceiling fan, even on its own, is excellent in cooling season. Start with it, and add AC once it's getting uncomfortable. -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Big Brother?
This was stitched together from photos taken over a 15 minute period. It is not one big picture from one big camera, it is a bunch of pics put together to seem like one shot. There are a ton of errors where they stitched them together if you zoom in and look for them. Parts of people missing, extra parts here and there, etc. Mike On Jun 30, 2013 6:32 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Hide in the crowd, eh? This picture was taken with a camera 70,000 x 30,000 pixels. Place the cursor anywhere in the multitude and left double click a couple times. It will continue to show the people much closer, when you double left click again or click more if needed. There were thousands of persons and yet one can spot and recognize any face. Imagine what this means. Can you spell automatic facial recognition? http://www.gigapixel.com/image/gigapan-canucks-g7.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Break roters
Since acetone didn't tough it, try B12 Chemtool, or charcoal lighter fluid, etc. Some solvent will get it Or grind it off with the pads :-) On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I did mine yesterday morning and went right out and bedded the pads (sure the locals liked me doing 60 mph down our streets.) Stuff came right off with no indication that it gummed up the pads. For that matter, bits of it came off just from handling the rotors during installation. It wasn't very thick. Dan On Jun 30, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Did we decide that the paint on the new discs gets to stay on or should come off? The 42-0220 instructions say, Replacement brake discs are protected against corrosion with nitro-cellulose paint. For this reason the corrosion protection on these discs must be removed and the discs degreased before installation. This can be accomplished best with a high-pressure hot water cleaning unit. Since my high-pressure hot water cleaning unit is out of service at present, I tried some acetone, which did nothing. I did not try hot water but I am thinking that is not going to take the stuff off. The link henifay posted suggests to leave it on, which I have done so far. BTW the instructions in the box with the rotor is written in Germglish, at least the box says the part was made in Germany but the instructions read like Chinglish. They are pretty funny but mostly just telling you that loosing you're breaks can kill you. I got one side done this afternoon in between tstorms, remembered I had a tube of grease in the garage from doing the other SD, for a minute there I thought I might need to go to the stealer and get some (and take some grease with me...) but I am good to go. AFter I do the other side I need to do that runout business to get the bearings set right, I have not done that before (my bad on the other car) so any suggestions would be appreciated. I have a dial gauge with a magnetic base. (Yes I can read the instructions, but experience is better...) --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
Um... no. On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: If it can't pick up a GPS signal, the all-new S-Class can actually determine where it is based in part on the sun's position in the sky. Now that's a bright idea. Learn more in our S-Class app: http://shout.lt/h1hs --R __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think I need this
Did you make this up or did they really write that somewhere?! Jaime On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: If it can't pick up a GPS signal, the all-new S-Class can actually determine where it is based in part on the sun's position in the sky. Now that's a bright idea. Learn more in our S-Class app: http://shout.lt/h1hs --R __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Break roters
Nitrocellulose paint?? Should burn nicely. Hit it with a blowtorch? Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes: Did we decide that the paint on the new discs gets to stay on or should come off? The 42-0220 instructions say, Replacement brake discs are protected against corrosion with nitro-cellulose paint. For this reason the corrosion protection on these discs must be removed and the discs degreased before installation. This can be accomplished best with a high-pressure hot water cleaning unit. Since my high-pressure hot water cleaning unit is out of service at present, I tried some acetone, which did nothing. I did not try hot water but I am thinking that is not going to take the stuff off. The link henifay posted suggests to leave it on, which I have done so far. BTW the instructions in the box with the rotor is written in Germglish, at least the box says the part was made in Germany but the instructions read like Chinglish. They are pretty funny but mostly just telling you that loosing you're breaks can kill you. I got one side done this afternoon in between tstorms, remembered I had a tube of grease in the garage from doing the other SD, for a minute there I thought I might need to go to the stealer and get some (and take some grease with me...) but I am good to go. AFter I do the other side I need to do that runout business to get the bearings set right, I have not done that before (my bad on the other car) so any suggestions would be appreciated. I have a dial gauge with a magnetic base. (Yes I can read the instructions, but experience is better...) --R http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/tech-help/44908-does-one-need-remove-grey-coating-surface-new-e500-brake-rotor.html Hendrik who sneaks a peek on other forums now and then The last set of disks that I got from Q were painted as well. I wiped the paint off with a rag soaked in acetone, IIRC. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Dan Penoffd...@penoff.com wrote: I stopped by the stealership to pick up my disks this morning, along with some replacement screws and brake paste. Holy mother of pearl those things are heavy! They seem to be covered with a primer gray colored spray. I wonder if it's something I should try and clean off the surfaces first? Never seen anything like it before. -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Anyone on the list with Outlook Email
Is there anyone on the list with MS Outlook Email who is having the same problem I'm having attaching files to Email notes? This was not a problem in Hotmail. It seems to work periodically but not consistently and there appear to be numerous complaints on the I-net about this and MS doesn't seem to be doing anything to remedy the situation. If someone has figured out a way to resolve this issue, please holler. TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Break roters
If it's nitrocelluose (or celluose acetate) lacquer thinner is the solvent you need. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - window/wall heat pumps
Did you mean to say heat pump? Looks like a window AC with a built in cheap electric heater to me. Or is that what you want? Mike On Jun 30, 2013 6:44 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Yes - a ceiling fan is part of the equation - mixes all that air together and provides surface cooling on the skin. Lowes has a cheap window AC/Heat pump/elect. strip heat unit for $435 now that is big enough - might try it. http://www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?partNumber=337173-36634-LRA08PZU1catalogId=10051storeId=10151langId=-1productId=3477347 On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Cooled air is heavy, so AC unit should be mounted as high as possible. But if it also heats then the opposite is true. I suggest a ceiling fan, which will take care of wrong-sex air. A low-mount wall pump would be more aesthetic, heat would be good as-is, and a ceiling fan, even on its own, is excellent in cooling season. Start with it, and add AC once it's getting uncomfortable. -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - window/wall heat pumps
Michael Canfield wrote: Did you mean to say heat pump? Looks like a window AC with a built in cheap electric heater to me. Or is that what you want? It does look that way, doesn't it? If it is just an A/C with strip heater, I'd much rather have this: http://www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?productId=3200237 plus this: http://www.lowes.com/pd_23255-1509-8F2025W_0__?productId=3132701 http://www.menards.com/main/heating-cooling/thermostats-freeze-alarms/thermostats/baseboard-heat-only-thermostat/p-1690354-c-6334.htm ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - window/wall heat pumps
It states on the box (which you can't see on the web site) that it's a heat pump, and on the FAQs there are a couple of answers stating that it both reverses as a heat pump, and has a 3500W strip for below freezing temps. On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: Did you mean to say heat pump? Looks like a window AC with a built in cheap electric heater to me. Or is that what you want? Mike On Jun 30, 2013 6:44 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Yes - a ceiling fan is part of the equation - mixes all that air together and provides surface cooling on the skin. Lowes has a cheap window AC/Heat pump/elect. strip heat unit for $435 now that is big enough - might try it. http://www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?partNumber=337173-36634-LRA08PZU1catalogId=10051storeId=10151langId=-1productId=3477347 On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Cooled air is heavy, so AC unit should be mounted as high as possible. But if it also heats then the opposite is true. I suggest a ceiling fan, which will take care of wrong-sex air. A low-mount wall pump would be more aesthetic, heat would be good as-is, and a ceiling fan, even on its own, is excellent in cooling season. Start with it, and add AC once it's getting uncomfortable. -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Big Brother?
I don't know if this link will work for you, but all these are stitched together from several photos. Some are 360 degree panoramas. The size/resolution is limited on-line, but the original composit images are quite large and you can zoom in on some fine detail. I have some 7 and 8 foot long prints of a few that show no pixels at all. http://photosynth.net/UserProfilePage.aspx?user=okdonncontent=Synths#1 On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.comwrote: This was stitched together from photos taken over a 15 minute period. It is not one big picture from one big camera, it is a bunch of pics put together to seem like one shot. There are a ton of errors where they stitched them together if you zoom in and look for them. Parts of people missing, extra parts here and there, etc. Mike -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Big Brother?
On Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:32:20 -0400 Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Hide in the crowd, eh? Well, there is one guy towards the back where the crowd starts to thin out, to the lower right of the left Richards St. sign, that is dressed in white which covers all of him except for a pair of dark sunglasses and his forehead. Perhaps he had the same idea. This picture was taken with a camera 70,000 x 30,000 pixels. The text above the picture says, BEFORE THE RIOT version 1 - The Vancouver Canucks Fan Zone along Georgia St. for Game 7 of the 2011 Stanley Cup Final was captured at 5:46 pm on June 15, 2011. It is made up of 216 photos (12 across by 18 down) stitched together, taken over a 15-minute span, and is not supposed to represent a single moment in time. The final hi-res file is 69,394 X 30,420 pixels or 2,110 megapixels. Special thanks to Bonita Howard and CBC Real Estate. BEFORE THE RIOT??? http://www.gigapixel.com/image/gigapan-canucks-g7.html Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Big Brother?
It's hockey, maybe there weren't enough fights on the rink - the fans had to improvise On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: BEFORE THE RIOT??? http://www.gigapixel.com/image/gigapan-canucks-g7.html Craig -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T
Thanks Wilton (and others) -- I will definitely do as suggested and have a full leak test done to be sure the problem is actually behind the dash. A couple of years ago my technician found a loose Schraeder valve was the cause of my loss of Freon. That was a easy problem to find and just as easy to fix! Maybe I'll get lucky again!? Thanks again to all who helped -- LarryT On 6/30/2013 6:37 PM, WILTON wrote: Please do a proper and complete leak leak before getting into it - make sure ya really hafta do it. ;) It is NO SMALL matter. Well, it is LOTSA small stuff/steps, but it's no small project. Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T Wilton, re the thread -- great idea to review those emails -- i'll go through them and save the ones of value to a newbie to evapectomy's. ;-) Larry On 6/30/2013 4:59 PM, WILTON wrote: Can also read running commentary from me and others daily (and many times daily) during my evapectomy in archives starting about 1 Jun '08. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T Just sent you write-up of evapectomy on my '87 300D in Jun '08. I think stealer wanted $2600 (may have been $2300) or so to do it. I'll try to find it in archives. My local A/C guy wouldn't do it. Parts, including evaporator, expansion valve, dryer, hoses, vac actuators/modules, (probably some little stuff I don't remember), etc., from Rusty cost about $600. Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 2:11 PM Subject: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T Thanks to all for answers to my windshield condensation question. ___ Now for another, more serious situation - the A/C in my '91 300D is not holding a charge very long. I had it filled last year and it lasted all season but this year it needed another refill but it failed to last more than a month or so - it's still cool but not cold. As I understand it, the W124 has a history of leaking in the condenser (if that's what's under the dash) ;-) so it sounds like the dash must come out. I could do the dash RR but the condenser RR would probably be beyond my ability. It looks like there are lotsof things that can leak behind the dash - the evaporatoror the Heat Exchanger and their related tubing for instance. Looks like the whole dash might need to come out At least my windshield condensation problem will be solved! ;-) Has anyone tried the *Stop Leak* in a can? Was it successful? Has anyone had a shop do this work? Any idea what the cost was? I'm in the greater Richmond Va area and labor prices are not too bad so far. I'll call my favorite shop Monday and see what they estimate the cost will be... Thanks - LarryT '91 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T
If you pull the car apart, make sure to replace the AC pods, they fail and some you have to pull the dash to replace. Hendrik who has a failed pod under the dash On 01/07/13 10:00, Larry T wrote: Thanks Wilton (and others) -- I will definitely do as suggested and have a full leak test done to be sure the problem is actually behind the dash. A couple of years ago my technician found a loose Schraeder valve was the cause of my loss of Freon. That was a easy problem to find and just as easy to fix! Maybe I'll get lucky again!? Thanks again to all who helped -- LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Break roters
How old is that MB advice? New rotors should come with instructions, follow them, not a 20 year old instruction. Hendrik who has not remove anti corrosion stuff for a while On 01/07/13 08:36, Peter Frederick wrote: If it's nitrocelluose (or celluose acetate) lacquer thinner is the solvent you need. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 AC Problem -- '91 300D 2.5T
On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: If you pull the car apart, make sure to replace the AC pods, they fail and some you have to pull the dash to replace. Yup. I bet there's no 124 out there that doesn't have at least one leaky pod, except Wilton's and some of Dave Meimann's cars. Larry's symptoms of excessive cold air through the windshield vents whenever the A/C is on indicate a bad defrost pod, which IIRC is one of the ones you can get at without removing the dash (it's behind the glove compartment). Small consolation if his evaporator turns out to be leaking, of course. Half the pods in my '87 are bad (and capped off at the manifold to keep from leaking vacuum); luckily it will still perform the essential functions of blowing cold through the middle vents in summer and warm out the floor vents in the winter, and the evap hasn't blown yet (knock on Zebrano). Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Break roters
http://www.ate-brakes.com/generator/www/com/en/ate/ate/themes/10_products/10_friction-parts/10_brake-discs/download/service_info_en.pdf On 01/07/13 08:36, Peter Frederick wrote: If it's nitrocelluose (or celluose acetate) lacquer thinner is the solvent you need. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone on the list with Outlook Email
Don't know if files will work the same, but I put pictures in Picasa and click the email button. The email form comes up and the jpg line is on the bottom of the header. Then I paste the note over from OE or simply type it on the bottom of the Picasa email. Picasa is available from Google. Go to Google and click more. Then click even more, and then click Picasa. Gerry From: G. M. Brown g_010...@hotmail.com Is there anyone on the list with MS Outlook Email who is having the same problem I'm having attaching files to Email notes? This was not a problem in Hotmail. It seems to work periodically but not consistently and there appear to be numerous complaints on the I-net about this and MS doesn't seem to be doing anything to remedy the situation. If someone has figured out a way to resolve this issue, please holler. TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Black smoke and loping at idle.
If the ALDA was not shimmed properly I suppose there could be too much fuel? But timing would also be suspect. On Saturday, June 29, 2013, OK Don wrote: Since this problem started with the installation of another IP, and persists with a second IP, I would be very suspicious of the installer - doing the same thing twice and expecting a different result! Now, it is possible that you have two defective IPs, I've had that with alternators from FLAPS, but used Bosch IPs don't usually give that kind of trouble. I like the suggestion of checking the timing with the drip tube! THe ALDA, injectors, etc. did not go bad just when you changed the IP. It about has to be IP timing. On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Michael Esh michael...@mac.comjavascript:; wrote: Peter Others, Thank you all for the information and ideas. I changed out the injectors last night and it made no difference at all. I did adjust the alda all the way closed and the car would not idle or achieve and rpm 2500 and was not drivable. When I moved it back out (ccw) it would run and it returned to the normal terrible running status we have been battling since the new used injection pump was in installed. I was then called to dinner. I plan on changing out the alda with one that is unmolested (thanks Mitch) on Sunday. Is there a good write up on how to check to see where I stand on this issue. I have never adjusted the timing and do not intend to try to change it. I plan on taking it back into the mechanic on Monday and trying a few adjustments. Thanks Mike On Jun 28, 2013, at 6:13 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: You must use the drip tube method to check this, and be very careful to have the injection occur on the compression, not exhaust stroke. -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone on the list with Outlook Email
On Jun 30, 2013, at 7:03 PM, G. M. Brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: Is there anyone on the list with MS Outlook Email who is having the same problem I'm having attaching files to Email notes? In general, or to this list? I'm usually using my phone for email, but I will be more than happy to check it when I get home. I am out of town until Tuesday night. The only hotmail problem I have had lately is my mail from this list gets held up for a day occasionally. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
