Re: [MBZ] OT: diesel genset
The field current is DC, isn't it? Can you add an external output transistor to the new AVR? This was supposed to be the easy way out. Rather than that I'd probably just resurrect the original AVR. I have parts. Yes, indeed! Just get some more 8 Amp fuses. What happens if you don't use an AVR but put a variable DC current into the field windings? When I did this on Big Bertha the output voltage was quite unstable. Is there a way to check out the field coil or determine how much current it should take? The field current doesn't do any actual work, so 8 amps sounds I'm not sure. This thing is bugging me. I knew when I bought it that it was a gamble. It is possible that there's a crowbar on the AVR field to deliberately blow the fuse if it goes overvoltage. No schematic, you see, and potted, so it's possible. More research required, I suppose, but right now I'm disgusted with it. The field coil does have a short to frame in the middle. I do not know if there's one or more coils shorted out by this, or if it's just broken insulation. If so, yes there will be less field, but as the field is DC there shouldn't be any other overt harm. As I recall the coils don't look burnt. Stupid no-name Chinese thing. I'm sure another genny head would be probably $50 in China, if you knew what to order or where to get it. 10hp Coleman. Engine runs beautifully, but output is 0v on the 120v and 240v terminals. Any idea how to go about troubleshooting? Two ideas. The typical generator is 220V center tapped, rated at (let's say) 7kW. But that's half per side, and most people don't check the two windings separately for current overload. Overload one side (up to 2x) and you burn out the winding. Then the party's over. If this is a brushless generator the components rotating on the back of the genny are in a pretty harsh place. Burnt diode, broken trace, that sort of thing. Fixable, if you can get to it. Or, if like mine and _has_ brushes, the AVR could have burnt out. If so, good luck! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Political History, and a not so funny for andrew
On Jan 11, 2014 8:30 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: essentially undetectable. An inability to trace votes with a vote receipt or tracking is missing. Vote recount, but in that process we Kills the secret ballot if the authorities (government, union, organization) can require you to produce a receipt with your votes listed on it, and punish you if you selected the wrong person. At least if you photograph a paper ballot you could still go change it - if there is a physical receipt generated then it is too late. I don't see how the mere fact of the counting being done on a computer is fundamentally any more risky than counting being done by an automatic sorting machine. Not that government contractors are known for writing great software... Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Political History, and a not so funny for andrew
Dieselhead wrote: WTF is that about? Scret servce was to protect the prez , veep and such, not to investigate federl crimes Did something change? I thought SS was supposed to protect the currency, and personal protection was thrown in at a later date for reasons beyond my comprehension. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: diesel genset
Jim Cathey wrote: 10hp Coleman. Engine runs beautifully, but output is 0v on the 120v and 240v terminals. Any idea how to go about troubleshooting? Two ideas. The typical generator is 220V center tapped, rated at (let's say) 7kW. But that's half per side, and most people don't check the two windings separately for current overload. Overload one side (up to 2x) and you burn out the winding. Then the party's over. I forgot to mention. Was working when parked, so probably not an overload, unless it got blown immediately on startup during the next power failure. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Political History, and a not so funny for andrew
Very easy Tim. Someone must program the computer, and it's VERY easy to get them to do whatever you want instead of tally the votes as cast. This has been demonstrated quite a few times, and is an issue that gets buried. We aren't talking about errors here, we are talking about malfeasance. As far as recording what you vote with your name, that's probably already happening. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Political History, and a not so funny for andrew
Peter Frederick wrote: We aren't talking about errors here, we are talking about malfeasance. As far as recording what you vote with your name, that's probably already happening. The system in my precinct: Serially numbered paper ballots with tear off tabs at the top. Your name goes on the tab, and you color in the circles for your votes with ink. Then you, the voter, put the ballot in a cardboard sleeve for privacy, and an election worker observes you putting the ballot in the scanner and verifies with you that the ballot scanned. For audit purposes, we have paper ballots in the scanner, traceable to the voters by serial number. I'm sure any amount of fudging would be possible in the computer tabulation, but in a recount they'd count the paper ballots just like old times. I suppose the trick is to have enough fraud that nobody thinks its close enough to ask for a recount. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Political History, and a not so funny for andrew
We vote on computers here, no paper implied or intended. A bit of fudging on the software, and who knows what will happen. The point of a printed ballot verified by the voter (without name, and retained by the precinct) is that a correct tabulation can be done without the computer. I'm all for voting access, but I'm deeply suspicious of involving computers. We need speed in voting far less than we need accuracy. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trouble brewin'
On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 22:15:14 -0500 Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in. On Jan 11, 2014 10:13 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm game. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 11, 2014, at 10:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Party at Fred's place. It's encouraging to see how much you guys help each other! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Political History, and a not so funny for andrew
Tim, If you think computers are not risky at counting votes by themselves while leaving no detailed trail, then I have some perfectly good, but moist land I'll sell you next to the creek here in Georgia. Personally, I think you need something as an audit trail as our voting machines, I believe, were once created by a company owned by the South American dictator who gave our POTUS a questionable book as a gift. Doesn't leave me with a good, safe feeling. I like the punch cards, but then someone thought they were pregnant and not safe. Not sure whether our current system is more prone to abortions or the old system that could look pregnant. Just saying. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 98, Issue 57
Wheels are straight in all the pics but the STAR in the middle of the steering wheel is upside down on the interior dash picture? Hummm. Tom Harruff Naples, FL Message: 1 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 20:07:44 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] a bargain Message-ID: a0624081bcef7a8ecbf98@[192.168.0.22] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Overpriced, yes, but if I were shopping for a new car, considering that they get for a new MB, I'd be better off paying that sort of price for a real car that that can be maintained without tons of special tools and electronic gadgets. http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/4275458537.html thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins not mine, etc 58/6495 - Release Date: 01/11/14 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: diesel genset
If it has sat for long without being used, the fields probably need to be flashed. Cheap generator = cheap steel in the laminations. Cheap steel doesn't hold residual magnetism, which is needed for fields to build up, so if the generator is stored for long periods of inactivity, the residual magnetism isn't there when you start it up, and it won't build up output. Find the field windings (probably connected to a bridge rectifier of some sort in the back end or under a cover) and disconnect them. Start the engine and while it's running put +12VDC from a battery or other source to the fields for a few seconds. Shut the engine down and reconnect the field windings to the rectifier/regulator. Start engine and see if output builds up. Dan On Jan 12, 2014, at 8:39 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Jim Cathey wrote: 10hp Coleman. Engine runs beautifully, but output is 0v on the 120v and 240v terminals. Any idea how to go about troubleshooting? Two ideas. The typical generator is 220V center tapped, rated at (let's say) 7kW. But that's half per side, and most people don't check the two windings separately for current overload. Overload one side (up to 2x) and you burn out the winding. Then the party's over. I forgot to mention. Was working when parked, so probably not an overload, unless it got blown immediately on startup during the next power failure. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Political History, and a not so funny for andrew
Hm...when I worked for the gummint there was one agency we would only refer to as other government agencies rather than naming it. The rest we would speak of in the clear, but we were discouraged from using the actual name of this one agency. snip So which parks and recreation agency do you work for??? Spill it all Andrew.. Snowden needs a roommate. hahaha.. G. Mann [irony free nic name] On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 11:11 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.netwrote: And BTW, I work for an agency where transparency is the rule and confidentiality the exception. In the most transparent administration E-verrr! I can do everything but disclose the name of my agency. Hm...when I worked for the gummint there was one agency we would only refer to as other government agencies rather than naming it. The rest we would speak of in the clear, but we were discouraged from using the actual name of this one agency. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2014 8:59 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Political History, and a not so funny for andrew I do so love to pose innocent questions and then sit back and read the responses. Let me ask a follow-up: are the ones who cloak their true identities afraid of being unmasked? If their real names were revealed, what harm would be done, assuming they are law abiding? And BTW, I work for an agency where transparency is the rule and confidentiality the exception. On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Curt Raymond is an alias? On 1/10/2014 9:41 PM, Rick Knoble wrote: On Jan 10, 2014, at 7:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone beside me wondering why Dieselhead and Mountain Man feel the need to hide their identities? I can't speak for them, but some folks use aliases to lessen their searchability (is that a word?) on the web. Zoltan Finks Curt Raymond Mountain Man Dieselhead Zippy the Pinhead Etc. all aliases. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3658/6994 - Release Date: 01/11/14 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Political History, and a not so funny for andrew
We always used the term OGA for Those Who Shall Not Be Named. Dan becoming a government employee again starting tomorrow On Jan 12, 2014, at 11:13 AM, G Mann wrote: Hm...when I worked for the gummint there was one agency we would only refer to as other government agencies rather than naming it. The rest we would speak of in the clear, but we were discouraged from using the actual name of this one agency. snip So which parks and recreation agency do you work for??? Spill it all Andrew.. Snowden needs a roommate. hahaha.. G. Mann [irony free nic name] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] an oily question Jaime can probably answer
That's great and all, but g05 is still just fine in the older cars Sent from my iPhone On Jan 11, 2014, at 11:59 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: the official MB stuff is now the blue BMW stuff . sorry :( On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 11:45 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: The only coolant system troubles I had were with cars that had the green anti-freeze when I bought them. Usually had to replace the radiator. Marshall (may he rest in peace) said the Zerex G-05 was the same as the official MB stuff in the US - same stuff, different bottle. On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Are those the ones that need resoldering now and then? On a related note, the topic of coolant came up on OzBenz a few days ago and the outcome was that nothing but stuff which is specifically MB approved should be used. Specifically someone said that they had a pile of trouble with Zerex G-05, so sometimes it is worth spending a little more on the really right stuff. Also I think Lemfoerder coolant is no longer available. Hendrik who has approved coolant -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Political History, and a not so funny for andrew
We always used the term OGA for Those Who Shall Not Be Named. Dan becoming a government employee again starting tomorrow On Jan 12, 2014, at 11:13 AM, G Mann wrote: Hm...when I worked for the gummint there was one agency we would only refer to as other government agencies rather than naming it. The rest we would speak of in the clear, but we were discouraged from using the actual name of this one agency. snip So which parks and recreation agency do you work for??? Spill it all Andrew.. Snowden needs a roommate. hahaha.. G. Mann [irony free nic name] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] an oily question Jaime can probably answer
Napa sells it for 14, pep boys sells it for 17 Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 12:00 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: yes, benz no longer sells the g-05, so you have to get it from another source now. On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 11:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: G05 is the mb coolant, at least the old coolant, they now have a new blue coolant Sent from my iPhone On Jan 11, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Are those the ones that need resoldering now and then? On a related note, the topic of coolant came up on OzBenz a few days ago and the outcome was that nothing but stuff which is specifically MB approved should be used. Specifically someone said that they had a pile of trouble with Zerex G-05, so sometimes it is worth spending a little more on the really right stuff. Also I think Lemfoerder coolant is no longer available. Hendrik who has approved coolant On 12/01/14 14:34, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Cuz Jaime has special MB connections. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] an oily question Jaime can probably answer
i prefer it for any car On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: That's great and all, but g05 is still just fine in the older cars Sent from my iPhone On Jan 11, 2014, at 11:59 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: the official MB stuff is now the blue BMW stuff . sorry :( On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 11:45 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: The only coolant system troubles I had were with cars that had the green anti-freeze when I bought them. Usually had to replace the radiator. Marshall (may he rest in peace) said the Zerex G-05 was the same as the official MB stuff in the US - same stuff, different bottle. On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Are those the ones that need resoldering now and then? On a related note, the topic of coolant came up on OzBenz a few days ago and the outcome was that nothing but stuff which is specifically MB approved should be used. Specifically someone said that they had a pile of trouble with Zerex G-05, so sometimes it is worth spending a little more on the really right stuff. Also I think Lemfoerder coolant is no longer available. Hendrik who has approved coolant -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Political History, and a not so funny for andrew
The secret service also deals with counterfeit money and such, among other things Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 12:53 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: And BTW, I work for an agency where transparency is the rule and confidentiality the exception. In the most transparent administration E-verrr! I can do everything but disclose the name of my agency. Hm...when I worked for the gummint there was one agency we would only refer to as other government agencies rather than naming it. The rest we would speak of in the clear, but we were discouraged from using the actual name of this one agency. Greg Ayup On another front, have you heard recently, that some crimes that normally would have been investigated by the FBI or perhaps by a fderal marshals or such, now are investigated by the secret srvce? WTF is that about? Scret servce was to protect the prez , veep and such, not to investigate federl crimes Did something change? is the fbi eliminated? Or does fbi now only do cybercrimes? is this another move by the bungler in chief to steal more power? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] an oily question Jaime can probably answer
that's kind of why i never understood all those people who insisted in getting it in an MB bottle for 25 or whatever On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Napa sells it for 14, pep boys sells it for 17 Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 12:00 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: yes, benz no longer sells the g-05, so you have to get it from another source now. On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 11:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: G05 is the mb coolant, at least the old coolant, they now have a new blue coolant Sent from my iPhone On Jan 11, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Are those the ones that need resoldering now and then? On a related note, the topic of coolant came up on OzBenz a few days ago and the outcome was that nothing but stuff which is specifically MB approved should be used. Specifically someone said that they had a pile of trouble with Zerex G-05, so sometimes it is worth spending a little more on the really right stuff. Also I think Lemfoerder coolant is no longer available. Hendrik who has approved coolant On 12/01/14 14:34, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Cuz Jaime has special MB connections. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trouble brewin'
Craig. It is all a plot to party whilst telling tall tales of Mercedes. Some work accidentally gets done. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trouble brewin' On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 22:15:14 -0500 Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in. On Jan 11, 2014 10:13 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm game. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 11, 2014, at 10:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Party at Fred's place. It's encouraging to see how much you guys help each other! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running rough...help!
I was able to start the car this morning and let it run for 10 minutes hoping that would get some air out of the fuel system. That was a suggestion in the instructions from the fuel distributor rebuilder. After a few minutes I saw there was an excessive amount of unburnt gas coming out of the exhaust and under the exhaust itself. When I tried to accelerate it immediately stalled out. Being a safety issue are there any adjustments to correct that or should I have to get it towed to a shop? The gas did a job on my new sealed driveway in a short period of time.it was that much getting through. Bob -Original Message- From: Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sat, Jan 11, 2014 11:19 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running rough...help! OK I am not sure what differences there are between the US and Euro model 300E, we got the Euro version here, however I don't think there any 'major' differences. The US and Japan 103.983 engines got a MAS relay for some reason, apparently pin 1 is battery, pin 2 is feed to fuel pumps http://www.autolib.diakom.ru/CAR/Mercedes-Benz/1993/190E/SYSTEM%20WIRING%20DIAGRAMS/4410.pdf Lots of stuff here http://w124-zone.com/downloads/MB%20CD/W124/Index/103index.html A new fuel distributor may well need adjusting, which is done with an allen key down the top but should really be be done whilst reading the lambda codes. http://w124-zone.com/downloads/MB%20CD/W124/w124CD1/Program/Engine/103/07.3-2053.pdf Have you checked your electrical bits? The 103 is well known for having problems with the dizzy because of it's location. My advice to people generally is that if you don't have the tools or know how to diagnose the system, take it to a good shop which knows the Bosch systems and has experience. Money spent on replacing parts which may not need replacing is better spend on good diagnoses. Ohh and another clue, a KE jetronic system will generally run, even without EHA valve, O2 sensor, coolant temp sender (these bits where added to turn K into KE), this is why MB stuck with it for so long, very reliable system but not that efficient. The addition of the O2 sensor (plus bits) helped to make it a little more efficient, K jet is supposed to be tuned every service. Hendrik whose 103.983 is a little rough On 12/01/14 13:49, Robert Koziak wrote: Hi Guys, I still have an issue with rough idle and hesitation during acceleration on my 1990 300E w/90K that I haven't been able to fix. So far I replaced the fuel filter, fuel pumps, oxygen sensor, coolant temperature sensor,and EHA valve...problem still there! My latest part swap is a rebuilt fuel distributor. After installing it a few hours ago the car now runs very rough and stalls. I read that there is some adjustments that have to be done on fuel distributors. I don't have any special tools so I might have to take the car to a shop that deals in older Mercedes. I can't seem to get it to run enough to get it to the shop. Does anyone know how to jump or bridge the relay to adjust the fuel flow to the fuel distributor? Books say to jump pins #7 8 on the fuel pump relay but this car does not have one, it has a MAS relay. Any help or suggestions to get the car going would be greatly appreciated. I would hate to put back the old distributor to get it to a shop. Thanks, Bob ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trouble brewin'
Yeah. It's the middle of the winter and I'm looking for some entertainment:) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 11:22 AM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Craig. It is all a plot to party whilst telling tall tales of Mercedes. Some work accidentally gets done. Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trouble brewin' On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 22:15:14 -0500 Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in. On Jan 11, 2014 10:13 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm game. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 11, 2014, at 10:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Party at Fred's place. It's encouraging to see how much you guys help each other! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Credit card fraud
Has anyone had experience with American Express cards? They keep sending me pre-approved offers for green cards, blue cards, gold cards, etc with free annual payments. Gerry Dieselhead wrote: Amex is generally a big ripoff. usurious rates, limited acceptance, higher fees for the merchant, and lots of gotcha charges. Acceptable for the free year, but you want to dump it before the year expires. Tossup as to the worse of amex and discovered. Better to stick with VS/MC. Of those, crapital 1 is one of the worst. There are online resources that rate various issuing banks for VS/MC so you can choose a suitable one. Scott wrote: AMEX cards are not as universally accepted as Visa, Mastercard, and (now) Discover. Thanks. Good to know. I'll stick with Visa/MC. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running rough...help!
i'm not sure throwing parts at it is ever the answer, as you are learning at great cost and frustration On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Robert Koziak rkmerce...@aol.com wrote: Hi Guys, I still have an issue with rough idle and hesitation during acceleration on my 1990 300E w/90K that I haven't been able to fix. So far I replaced the fuel filter, fuel pumps, oxygen sensor, coolant temperature sensor,and EHA valve...problem still there! My latest part swap is a rebuilt fuel distributor. After installing it a few hours ago the car now runs very rough and stalls. I read that there is some adjustments that have to be done on fuel distributors. I don't have any special tools so I might have to take the car to a shop that deals in older Mercedes. I can't seem to get it to run enough to get it to the shop. Does anyone know how to jump or bridge the relay to adjust the fuel flow to the fuel distributor? Books say to jump pins #7 8 on the fuel pump relay but this car does not have one, it has a MAS relay. Any help or suggestions to get the car going would be greatly appreciated. I would hate to put back the old distributor to get it to a shop. Thanks, Bob ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: diesel genset
Dan Penoff wrote: If it has sat for long without being used, the fields probably need to be flashed. Now that's useful info. Just not useful in this instance. I thought his wife told me they started it up and it didn't work. I just talked to him and he said they were running on generator power when suddenly the lights went out with the generator still running and the engine sounding like it was no load. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Credit card fraud
Capitol One has awesome US based customer service and great rewards. What's not to like? On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:36 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Has anyone had experience with American Express cards? They keep sending me pre-approved offers for green cards, blue cards, gold cards, etc with free annual payments. Gerry Dieselhead wrote: Amex is generally a big ripoff. usurious rates, limited acceptance, higher fees for the merchant, and lots of gotcha charges. Acceptable for the free year, but you want to dump it before the year expires. Tossup as to the worse of amex and discovered. Better to stick with VS/MC. Of those, crapital 1 is one of the worst. There are online resources that rate various issuing banks for VS/MC so you can choose a suitable one. Scott wrote: AMEX cards are not as universally accepted as Visa, Mastercard, and (now) Discover. Thanks. Good to know. I'll stick with Visa/MC. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trouble brewin'
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:34:56 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah. It's the middle of the winter and I'm looking for some entertainment:) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 11:22 AM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Craig. It is all a plot to party whilst telling tall tales of Mercedes. Some work accidentally gets done. Interesting collusion, then! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Credit card fraud
AMEX has its merits, especially if you travel internationally. This isn't as big a deal as it used to be 15-20 years ago, however, AMEX' services, especially for travelers, can't be beat. That being said, if I wasn't planning any international travel there's no reason to pay their outrageous fees. For credit card services in general, MC and VISA are far better accepted. Dan On Jan 12, 2014, at 11:36 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Has anyone had experience with American Express cards? They keep sending me pre-approved offers for green cards, blue cards, gold cards, etc with free annual payments. Gerry Dieselhead wrote: Amex is generally a big ripoff. usurious rates, limited acceptance, higher fees for the merchant, and lots of gotcha charges. Acceptable for the free year, but you want to dump it before the year expires. Tossup as to the worse of amex and discovered. Better to stick with VS/MC. Of those, crapital 1 is one of the worst. There are online resources that rate various issuing banks for VS/MC so you can choose a suitable one. Scott wrote: AMEX cards are not as universally accepted as Visa, Mastercard, and (now) Discover. Thanks. Good to know. I'll stick with Visa/MC. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running rough...help!
I realize that now! I usually enjoy the challenge and satisfaction of working out issues myself. This problem is turning out to be above my pay scale. -Original Message- From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, Jan 12, 2014 11:41 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running rough...help! i'm not sure throwing parts at it is ever the answer, as you are learning at great cost and frustration On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 10:19 PM, Robert Koziak rkmerce...@aol.com wrote: Hi Guys, I still have an issue with rough idle and hesitation during acceleration on my 1990 300E w/90K that I haven't been able to fix. So far I replaced the fuel filter, fuel pumps, oxygen sensor, coolant temperature sensor,and EHA valve...problem still there! My latest part swap is a rebuilt fuel distributor. After installing it a few hours ago the car now runs very rough and stalls. I read that there is some adjustments that have to be done on fuel distributors. I don't have any special tools so I might have to take the car to a shop that deals in older Mercedes. I can't seem to get it to run enough to get it to the shop. Does anyone know how to jump or bridge the relay to adjust the fuel flow to the fuel distributor? Books say to jump pins #7 8 on the fuel pump relay but this car does not have one, it has a MAS relay. Any help or suggestions to get the car going would be greatly appreciated. I would hate to put back the old distributor to get it to a shop. Thanks, Bob ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: diesel genset
Missed that part. That would imply a breaker tripping, regulator failing, or a winding blowing open. I listed these in the most probable reasons. If it's a brushless unit with a rotating diode bridge on the rotor, and it probably is, there's a possibility a diode opened up, too. If they short you lose output, but it rarely goes to zero as there is enough excitation from the half wave that's getting through the windings to build up some output. Dan On Jan 12, 2014, at 11:40 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Dan Penoff wrote: If it has sat for long without being used, the fields probably need to be flashed. Now that's useful info. Just not useful in this instance. I thought his wife told me they started it up and it didn't work. I just talked to him and he said they were running on generator power when suddenly the lights went out with the generator still running and the engine sounding like it was no load. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running rough...help!
Gary Hurst wrote: i'm not sure throwing parts at it is ever the answer, as you are learning at great cost and frustration Having already thrown the parts at it, IIRC turning the 3mm allen head on the airflow meter counterclockwise leans it out. Don't leave the allen wrench in the screw and give the car throttle, as the screw is in the moving arm on the airflow meter. Usually the warm-up regulator (do the electronic feedback versions of CIS even have a warm-up regulator?) fails lean, so while I'd usually look there first, maybe not on this car. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Credit card fraud
When I called them yesterday it was for sure not us based, phone kept cutting out like bad cell phone signal except I was calling from land line. Guess the connection to India was bad. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Capitol One has awesome US based customer service and great rewards. What's not to like? On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:36 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Has anyone had experience with American Express cards? They keep sending me pre-approved offers for green cards, blue cards, gold cards, etc with free annual payments. Gerry Dieselhead wrote: Amex is generally a big ripoff. usurious rates, limited acceptance, higher fees for the merchant, and lots of gotcha charges. Acceptable for the free year, but you want to dump it before the year expires. Tossup as to the worse of amex and discovered. Better to stick with VS/MC. Of those, crapital 1 is one of the worst. There are online resources that rate various issuing banks for VS/MC so you can choose a suitable one. Scott wrote: AMEX cards are not as universally accepted as Visa, Mastercard, and (now) Discover. Thanks. Good to know. I'll stick with Visa/MC. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running rough...help!
i'd just look for a vacuum leak before i bought a single part On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Gary Hurst wrote: i'm not sure throwing parts at it is ever the answer, as you are learning at great cost and frustration Having already thrown the parts at it, IIRC turning the 3mm allen head on the airflow meter counterclockwise leans it out. Don't leave the allen wrench in the screw and give the car throttle, as the screw is in the moving arm on the airflow meter. Usually the warm-up regulator (do the electronic feedback versions of CIS even have a warm-up regulator?) fails lean, so while I'd usually look there first, maybe not on this car. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: diesel genset
Dan Penoff wrote: Missed that part. You missed it because I had the facts backwards. Thanks for the update now that I got the facts straight. HF is having a big sale on a 6.5hp Predator with 230v. Don't know if it's the sort of center tapped generator that can run a house without going overvoltage on one leg. Slightly scared by the 90 day warranty, unless you're going to be without power for the first couple of days you own it how will you ever know if it's good before the warranty runs out? http://www.harborfreight.com/4000-peak3200-running-watts-65-hp-212cc-gas-generator-69729.html Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running rough...help!
I spend days checking every vacuum line I could find and used several cans of starting fluid...no luck. -Original Message- From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, Jan 12, 2014 11:56 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running rough...help! i'd just look for a vacuum leak before i bought a single part On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Gary Hurst wrote: i'm not sure throwing parts at it is ever the answer, as you are learning at great cost and frustration Having already thrown the parts at it, IIRC turning the 3mm allen head on the airflow meter counterclockwise leans it out. Don't leave the allen wrench in the screw and give the car throttle, as the screw is in the moving arm on the airflow meter. Usually the warm-up regulator (do the electronic feedback versions of CIS even have a warm-up regulator?) fails lean, so while I'd usually look there first, maybe not on this car. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars* *www.BuyEUROparts.com http://www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: diesel genset
Several questions have not been ask or answered. 1. Is this a brush type generator? 2. Generator? or Alternator? type. 3. If it's brushless, Who made it? [for that matter, if it's brush type, who made it?] 4. Single phase? What RPM does it make 60 cycle power? Is it capable of 3 phase power and just wired to produce 110? Will it make 220? 5. Is it a 12 pole generator, running at 1800 RPM? There are others, I'm sure, but that will get the details started. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Dan Penoff wrote: If it has sat for long without being used, the fields probably need to be flashed. Now that's useful info. Just not useful in this instance. I thought his wife told me they started it up and it didn't work. I just talked to him and he said they were running on generator power when suddenly the lights went out with the generator still running and the engine sounding like it was no load. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running rough...help!
Mitch, The car will not start now but I will try that adjustmentgood idea. -Original Message- From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, Jan 12, 2014 11:53 am Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running rough...help! Gary Hurst wrote: i'm not sure throwing parts at it is ever the answer, as you are learning at great cost and frustration Having already thrown the parts at it, IIRC turning the 3mm allen head on the airflow meter counterclockwise leans it out. Don't leave the allen wrench in the screw and give the car throttle, as the screw is in the moving arm on the airflow meter. Usually the warm-up regulator (do the electronic feedback versions of CIS even have a warm-up regulator?) fails lean, so while I'd usually look there first, maybe not on this car. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: diesel genset
G Mann wrote: Several questions have not been ask or answered. 1. Is this a brush type generator? They'd be under that little rectangular cover on the back if it is? 2. Generator? or Alternator? type. It puts out 115/230v at 60hz, they don't make generators with inverters, do they? 3. If it's brushless, Who made it? [for that matter, if it's brush type, who made it?] The name on it is Coleman, but I doubt they made it. Has a 10hp OVH engine that's probably imported. 4. Single phase? What RPM does it make 60 cycle power? Is it capable of 3 phase power and just wired to produce 110? Will it make 220? I'm sure it's single phase. Sure sounds like 3600rpm to me. 5. Is it a 12 pole generator, running at 1800 RPM? No, it was the biggest generator you could get at Meijer supermarket when they bought it, so figure it's pretty basic. I can get the model number next time I'm over there, and take a little screwdriver to see if there are brushes under the back cover. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running rough...help!
Robert Koziak wrote: Mitch, The car will not start now but I will try that adjustmentgood idea. Count the turns so you can put it back the same later if you put the old fuel distributor back in. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running rough...help!
Thanks -Original Message- From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, Jan 12, 2014 12:09 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running rough...help! Robert Koziak wrote: Mitch, The car will not start now but I will try that adjustmentgood idea. Count the turns so you can put it back the same later if you put the old fuel distributor back in. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running rough...help!
The main leaks on a K-jet system are at the idle speed control valve, the boot on the throttle body, and the hose at the cold start valve. Note that a cold start valve failed open will flood the engine badly at idle. Here's what I would do: Remove the air filter housing and verify that the air meter flap is all the way up with the engine off. If it's not, you will have to remove the fuel distributor and find out why. Even slightly depressed below zero position will cause the engine to flood at idle. If it's rubbing on the venturi it will also run lean immediately on throttle opening until it unsticks. If it's all the way up, press down gently (engine off, but fuel pressure). It MUST move smoothly with no hangs or roughness and MUST return fully to the zero position all by itself. If not, the pivot or pressure pin is binding. If you see any problems, remove the fuel distributor, take the boot off, and pull and clean the pivot pin. Should restore normal function (this is a problem with cars that have had a bad air filter or a big vacuum leak). You may need to pull the regulator pin on the bottom of the fuel distributor and clean it, possibly replace the seal if there is fuel leaking. Check to make sure you didn't use a long screw when putting the boot back on the fuel distributor in the one spot you have to use a short one, as this will crush the position sensor and cause all sorts of problem with the computer. Also verify that the computer connections are clean and properly installed. Verify that the idle control valve hoses are not cracked or loose on the barbs of the idle control valve. Chronic issue with them, they split down the mold line for me and I've replaced them three times on the TE so far. I ended up using hose clamps, solved all sorts of idle problems. Might flush the idle control valve out with carb cleaner, they are usually dirty. Verify that the boot from the air flow meter to throttle body is actually over the back side of the throttle body, it's a HUGE pain to get it right. Always install the back side first, then pull it over the lip on the fender side where you can see what you are doing. If it's not over the lip all the way around, you are going to have fits. Check for fuel in the vent line from the regulator to the crankcase ventilation hose. If there is any fuel in there, the regulator has failed and can be over-pressuring the system, which will flood. It is very unlikely that the fuel mixture needs to be changed -- almost always, you have another issue causing the problem. Test the cold start valve. You can pull it out of the hose while still attached just after shutting the engine off, if its' dripping, replace it. If you have a helper, have them start the car with the valve out of the hose but still connected, it should puff a very short squirt unless it's very cold, then stop completely. Dribbles will flood you out. If nothing seems wrong and it still runs rich, I would clean the pivot and regulator pin on the old fuel distributor, fix the vacuum leaks (likely a hardened boot and idle control valve hoses) and re-install it. Sadly, sitting unused causes serious problems with K-jet fuel distributors, and in the worst case the diaphragm corrodes through. This results in fuel pouring into the engine, just as you describe. A stuck meter flap will do the same thing, though, and is easier to fix. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running rough...help!
Pay attention to Peter. I haven't worked seriously on k-jet in over 20 years, so I often remember this stuff when I read Peter saying what I should have remembered. Mitch. Peter Frederick wrote: The main leaks on a K-jet system are at the idle speed control valve, the boot on the throttle body, and the hose at the cold start valve. Note that a cold start valve failed open will flood the engine badly at idle. Here's what I would do: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running rough...help!
Thanks Mitch. I'm still battling mine, I suspect I need to bite the bullet and take the fuel distributor off and clean everything up. Just put a new regulator on the alternator today, battery went flat between Monday (when it started at -4) and Friday night. Good thing it didn't poop out on me in the cold. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Credit card fraud
We live near their home base in Richmond so perhaps they treat us better On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: When I called them yesterday it was for sure not us based, phone kept cutting out like bad cell phone signal except I was calling from land line. Guess the connection to India was bad. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Capitol One has awesome US based customer service and great rewards. What's not to like? On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:36 AM, arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: Has anyone had experience with American Express cards? They keep sending me pre-approved offers for green cards, blue cards, gold cards, etc with free annual payments. Gerry Dieselhead wrote: Amex is generally a big ripoff. usurious rates, limited acceptance, higher fees for the merchant, and lots of gotcha charges. Acceptable for the free year, but you want to dump it before the year expires. Tossup as to the worse of amex and discovered. Better to stick with VS/MC. Of those, crapital 1 is one of the worst. There are online resources that rate various issuing banks for VS/MC so you can choose a suitable one. Scott wrote: AMEX cards are not as universally accepted as Visa, Mastercard, and (now) Discover. Thanks. Good to know. I'll stick with Visa/MC. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a bargain
Diamond blue is no. 1 in my book. Maroon is a close second. On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Rick Hawkins Java wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/4275458537.html Looks nice. Maybe even $6900 nice. Is original California car a dirty phrase when talking about a 1984 300D, or is that only the 1985 CA cars? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a bargain
I agree 100% Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Diamond blue is no. 1 in my book. Maroon is a close second. On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Rick Hawkins Java wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/4275458537.html Looks nice. Maybe even $6900 nice. Is original California car a dirty phrase when talking about a 1984 300D, or is that only the 1985 CA cars? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trouble brewin'
Craig. A professor, a Video genius, a Doctor/Landlord and an old fart go into a bar, um, I'd better stop there. Dwight makes killer clam chowdah and organises. Curt cooks ambrosia. Dimitri fixes bodywork and drives beautiful cars I eat. An unholy alliance for sure! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trouble brewin' On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:34:56 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah. It's the middle of the winter and I'm looking for some entertainment:) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 11:22 AM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Craig. It is all a plot to party whilst telling tall tales of Mercedes. Some work accidentally gets done. Interesting collusion, then! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a bargain
I can't believe Kaleb and I agreed on something. Better quit while I'm ahead... On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I agree 100% Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Diamond blue is no. 1 in my book. Maroon is a close second. On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Rick Hawkins Java wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/4275458537.html Looks nice. Maybe even $6900 nice. Is original California car a dirty phrase when talking about a 1984 300D, or is that only the 1985 CA cars? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: diesel genset
Thanks, If I get it right, you have a : 10 hp gas engine generator, running at 3600 RPM, 110/220 v, 60 cycle generator. The engine runs OK.. The generator does not produce it's rated 6KV. If it is a brush type, it could be the brushs failed, thus no contact to transfer the electricity generated. If it is an alternator type, it still may have a brush comutator [under the little rectangle box at the end would be likely], if that brush has failed, or has poor contact, the exciter for the alternator would not get excited and you wouldn't make power. [perhaps, It may not be the system you have] Coleman has a support center. With model number /serial number information, give them a call. I bet they have the full data book in their system somewhere. Good luck, Grant... On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: G Mann wrote: Several questions have not been ask or answered. 1. Is this a brush type generator? They'd be under that little rectangular cover on the back if it is? 2. Generator? or Alternator? type. It puts out 115/230v at 60hz, they don't make generators with inverters, do they? 3. If it's brushless, Who made it? [for that matter, if it's brush type, who made it?] The name on it is Coleman, but I doubt they made it. Has a 10hp OVH engine that's probably imported. 4. Single phase? What RPM does it make 60 cycle power? Is it capable of 3 phase power and just wired to produce 110? Will it make 220? I'm sure it's single phase. Sure sounds like 3600rpm to me. 5. Is it a 12 pole generator, running at 1800 RPM? No, it was the biggest generator you could get at Meijer supermarket when they bought it, so figure it's pretty basic. I can get the model number next time I'm over there, and take a little screwdriver to see if there are brushes under the back cover. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trouble brewin'
Well I have already announced to the home calendar that we will have a 2 weekind head gig at Freds. On Jan 12, 2014 12:53 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Craig. A professor, a Video genius, a Doctor/Landlord and an old fart go into a bar, um, I'd better stop there. Dwight makes killer clam chowdah and organises. Curt cooks ambrosia. Dimitri fixes bodywork and drives beautiful cars I eat. An unholy alliance for sure! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trouble brewin' On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:34:56 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah. It's the middle of the winter and I'm looking for some entertainment:) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 11:22 AM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Craig. It is all a plot to party whilst telling tall tales of Mercedes. Some work accidentally gets done. Interesting collusion, then! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trouble brewin'
Well Fred you do a lot more than that. You are our Dr booth of the NE chowdah headgasket group On Jan 12, 2014 12:53 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Craig. A professor, a Video genius, a Doctor/Landlord and an old fart go into a bar, um, I'd better stop there. Dwight makes killer clam chowdah and organises. Curt cooks ambrosia. Dimitri fixes bodywork and drives beautiful cars I eat. An unholy alliance for sure! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trouble brewin' On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:34:56 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah. It's the middle of the winter and I'm looking for some entertainment:) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 11:22 AM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Craig. It is all a plot to party whilst telling tall tales of Mercedes. Some work accidentally gets done. Interesting collusion, then! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 98 ML with tranny trouble
Anybody know anything about transmission trouble in early MLs? There is one on locally for cheap, but I don't want to look into it unless it's a reasonable repair. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 98 ML with tranny trouble
Depends on the problem. If it's stuck in first, probably conductor plate. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Anybody know anything about transmission trouble in early MLs? There is one on locally for cheap, but I don't want to look into it unless it's a reasonable repair. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: diesel genset
G Mann wrote: Thanks, If I get it right, you have a : 10 hp gas engine generator, running at 3600 RPM, 110/220 v, 60 cycle generator. The engine runs OK.. The generator does not produce it's rated 6KV. Doesn't produce diddly squat. If I have the facts straight, they were running refrigerators and freezers on extension cords when the power stopped and the engine pitch changed to no-load. Since the plastic cover over the brushes on my 1980s Coleman started falling off and I saw what was under it, I'd been meaning to take a small screwdriver over to their house, pry off the similar cover on the back of their generator head, and see if there are brushes under there. But from the sounds of it, unless there's a broken brush spring I don't think I'll find the problem there. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 98 ML with tranny trouble
Peter Frederick wrote: Anybody know anything about transmission trouble in early MLs? There is one on locally for cheap, but I don't want to look into it unless it's a reasonable repair. Reasonable repair: replace conductor plate and reprogram the transmission with Star Diagnostic System or equivalent. Unreasonable repair: A fellow had a beautiful red 2000 4Matic wagon with 80k miles for $1700 last fall, I passed when I found out he did the above and much more to it and still couldn't get the transmission out of limp mode. When somebody with better tools than mine admits defeat after screwing with it for months, I know to take a pass. My 1999 wagon was the reasonable one. The seller said the transmission occasionally acted up, his mechanic told him it needed a conductor plate. I ended up buying it sight unseen for $2k and having Rusty ship a conductor plate to his mechanic to fix it while I flew out to pick it up. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Political History, and a not so funny for andrew
This is essentially the system used in my current county in NC and previously in Okaloosa county, FL. when I lived there, which included the 2000 presidential election. As you can imagine, there was a lot of recounting in FL in 2000 but the election-day machine count and the post election manual recount were always exactly the same, at least for President. I have great faith in these auditable paper ballots and zero faith in the all-digital solution. As a PhD Electrical Engineer, I trust the electrons. I do not trust software managed at this level. Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 9:49 AM The system in my precinct: Serially numbered paper ballots with tear off tabs at the top. Your name goes on the tab, and you color in the circles for your votes with ink. Then you, the voter, put the ballot in a cardboard sleeve for privacy, and an election worker observes you putting the ballot in the scanner and verifies with you that the ballot scanned. For audit purposes, we have paper ballots in the scanner, traceable to the voters by serial number. I'm sure any amount of fudging would be possible in the computer tabulation, but in a recount they'd count the paper ballots just like old times. I suppose the trick is to have enough fraud that nobody thinks its close enough to ask for a recount. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 98 ML with tranny trouble
Anybody know anything about transmission trouble in early MLs? There is one on locally for cheap, but I don't want to look into it unless it's a reasonable repair. Peter Call sun valley in Calif. That guy is the guru of MB trans. If you need to buy one, he was Q's source. It is no longer called Sun Valley MB Dismantlers. He only does transmissions now. Sun Vally MB Transmissions, or something like that. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Political History, and a not so funny for andrew
Let's see, the clowns running the 2000 elections in South Fl couldn't (or wouldn't or at least did't) maintain their punch card equipment. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of roger...@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 10:32 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Political History, and a not so funny for andrew Tim, If you think computers are not risky at counting votes by themselves while leaving no detailed trail, then I have some perfectly good, but moist land I'll sell you next to the creek here in Georgia. Personally, I think you need something as an audit trail as our voting machines, I believe, were once created by a company owned by the South American dictator who gave our POTUS a questionable book as a gift. Doesn't leave me with a good, safe feeling. I like the punch cards, but then someone thought they were pregnant and not safe. Not sure whether our current system is more prone to abortions or the old system that could look pregnant. Just saying. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 98 ML with tranny trouble
There are also some issues related to breaking springs in the valve body as well. Easy fix and a good time to do a conductor plate while you're there. Dan On Jan 12, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: Anybody know anything about transmission trouble in early MLs? There is one on locally for cheap, but I don't want to look into it unless it's a reasonable repair. Reasonable repair: replace conductor plate and reprogram the transmission with Star Diagnostic System or equivalent. Unreasonable repair: A fellow had a beautiful red 2000 4Matic wagon with 80k miles for $1700 last fall, I passed when I found out he did the above and much more to it and still couldn't get the transmission out of limp mode. When somebody with better tools than mine admits defeat after screwing with it for months, I know to take a pass. My 1999 wagon was the reasonable one. The seller said the transmission occasionally acted up, his mechanic told him it needed a conductor plate. I ended up buying it sight unseen for $2k and having Rusty ship a conductor plate to his mechanic to fix it while I flew out to pick it up. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Who wants raspberry pi?
$30 at microcenter: http://www.microcenter.com/product/414588/Raspberry_Pi_Model_B ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a bargain
I thought Kaleb liked the pea soup green the best, followed by the pumpkin orange . . . On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: I can't believe Kaleb and I agreed on something. Better quit while I'm ahead... On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I agree 100% Diamond blue is no. 1 in my book. Maroon is a close second. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Political History, and a not so funny for andrew
Will someone please change the subject line for this thread? I can't stand the unwarranted attention. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Let's see, the clowns running the 2000 elections in South Fl couldn't (or wouldn't or at least did't) maintain their punch card equipment. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of roger...@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 10:32 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Political History, and a not so funny for andrew Tim, If you think computers are not risky at counting votes by themselves while leaving no detailed trail, then I have some perfectly good, but moist land I'll sell you next to the creek here in Georgia. Personally, I think you need something as an audit trail as our voting machines, I believe, were once created by a company owned by the South American dictator who gave our POTUS a questionable book as a gift. Doesn't leave me with a good, safe feeling. I like the punch cards, but then someone thought they were pregnant and not safe. Not sure whether our current system is more prone to abortions or the old system that could look pregnant. Just saying. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who wants raspberry pi?
WTF? On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Mitchell Haley, EA m...@voyager.net wrote: $30 at microcenter: http://www.microcenter.com/product/414588/Raspberry_Pi_Model_B ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 98 ML with tranny trouble
My 1983 300TD transmission gave up the ghost 4 years ago. I bought a 150K mile 1985 300TD used transmission from Potomac German Auto (now LQ) for $750, less a $50 discount and free shipping to RC Imports in Rockville, MD. Total cost for the R/R was maybe another $750. The car has run fantastic ever since - shifts smoothly without the jarring slingshots that chartacterized the 83 transmission. I also have a ton more power, and the AC runs ice cold. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: There are also some issues related to breaking springs in the valve body as well. Easy fix and a good time to do a conductor plate while you're there. Dan On Jan 12, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: Anybody know anything about transmission trouble in early MLs? There is one on locally for cheap, but I don't want to look into it unless it's a reasonable repair. Reasonable repair: replace conductor plate and reprogram the transmission with Star Diagnostic System or equivalent. Unreasonable repair: A fellow had a beautiful red 2000 4Matic wagon with 80k miles for $1700 last fall, I passed when I found out he did the above and much more to it and still couldn't get the transmission out of limp mode. When somebody with better tools than mine admits defeat after screwing with it for months, I know to take a pass. My 1999 wagon was the reasonable one. The seller said the transmission occasionally acted up, his mechanic told him it needed a conductor plate. I ended up buying it sight unseen for $2k and having Rusty ship a conductor plate to his mechanic to fix it while I flew out to pick it up. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Political History, and a not so funny for andrew
Scott Ritchey wrote: Let's see, the clowns running the 2000 elections in South Fl couldn't (or wouldn't or at least did't) maintain their punch card equipment. I thought the whole chad thing was like the system I voted on in East Lansing in 1982. They gave me a ballot and a gizmo with a stylus, and I used the stylus to punch holes in the ballot. Then the voter was supposed to make sure he punched his votes completely. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 98 ML with tranny trouble
Dan Penoff wrote: There are also some issues related to breaking springs in the valve body as well. Easy fix and a good time to do a conductor plate while you're there. The mechanic thought I was nuts, but he installed the upgraded springs to humor me after I bought them. IIRC, a 97 or 98 would be more likely to have defective springs than my 99. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 98 ML with tranny trouble
Sadly, the ML tranny is electronically controlled, which raises big alarms signs in terms of spending huge amounts of money with no fix. I wish a simple mechanical tranny was still available. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 98 ML with tranny trouble
Peter Frederick wrote: Sadly, the ML tranny is electronically controlled, which raises big alarms signs in terms of spending huge amounts of money with no fix. I wish a simple mechanical tranny was still available. Apparently the diagnosis is usually pretty straightforward with SDS if you just follow the steps. The guy who almost sold me that 2000 wagon thought there was a wiring issue somewhere in the transmission circuit and I suspect he's right. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Political History, and a not so funny for andrew
SS is part of treasury department, so they investigate money crimes. Maybe Osama Sotero is making his own Republican Guard clay On Jan 11, 2014, at 10:53 PM, Dieselhead wrote: And BTW, I work for an agency where transparency is the rule and confidentiality the exception. In the most transparent administration E-verrr! I can do everything but disclose the name of my agency. Hm...when I worked for the gummint there was one agency we would only refer to as other government agencies rather than naming it. The rest we would speak of in the clear, but we were discouraged from using the actual name of this one agency. Greg Ayup On another front, have you heard recently, that some crimes that normally would have been investigated by the FBI or perhaps by a fderal marshals or such, now are investigated by the secret srvce? WTF is that about? Scret servce was to protect the prez , veep and such, not to investigate federl crimes Did something change? is the fbi eliminated? Or does fbi now only do cybercrimes? is this another move by the bungler in chief to steal more power? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trouble brewin'
Dwight. How long have you had these feelings? Tell me about your relationship with your mother. Do you hear voices? Would you like a tin foil hat? Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trouble brewin' Well Fred you do a lot more than that. You are our Dr booth of the NE chowdah headgasket group On Jan 12, 2014 12:53 PM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Craig. A professor, a Video genius, a Doctor/Landlord and an old fart go into a bar, um, I'd better stop there. Dwight makes killer clam chowdah and organises. Curt cooks ambrosia. Dimitri fixes bodywork and drives beautiful cars I eat. An unholy alliance for sure! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trouble brewin' On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:34:56 -0500 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah. It's the middle of the winter and I'm looking for some entertainment:) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 11:22 AM, Frederick Moir fredy4.s...@yahoo.com wrote: Craig. It is all a plot to party whilst telling tall tales of Mercedes. Some work accidentally gets done. Interesting collusion, then! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 98 ML with tranny trouble
He probably did not replace the $4 spring that will also put it on limp mode Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: Anybody know anything about transmission trouble in early MLs? There is one on locally for cheap, but I don't want to look into it unless it's a reasonable repair. Reasonable repair: replace conductor plate and reprogram the transmission with Star Diagnostic System or equivalent. Unreasonable repair: A fellow had a beautiful red 2000 4Matic wagon with 80k miles for $1700 last fall, I passed when I found out he did the above and much more to it and still couldn't get the transmission out of limp mode. When somebody with better tools than mine admits defeat after screwing with it for months, I know to take a pass. My 1999 wagon was the reasonable one. The seller said the transmission occasionally acted up, his mechanic told him it needed a conductor plate. I ended up buying it sight unseen for $2k and having Rusty ship a conductor plate to his mechanic to fix it while I flew out to pick it up. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 98 ML with tranny trouble
The 722.6 electronic is a much nicer and easy to work on tranny than the old ones! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Sadly, the ML tranny is electronically controlled, which raises big alarms signs in terms of spending huge amounts of money with no fix. I wish a simple mechanical tranny was still available. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a bargain
Those are good too! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 1:50 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I thought Kaleb liked the pea soup green the best, followed by the pumpkin orange . . . On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: I can't believe Kaleb and I agreed on something. Better quit while I'm ahead... On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I agree 100% Diamond blue is no. 1 in my book. Maroon is a close second. -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 98 ML with tranny trouble
Sometimes fluid leaks out of the plug and wicks it's way up to the tranny computer causing problems Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 2:07 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: Sadly, the ML tranny is electronically controlled, which raises big alarms signs in terms of spending huge amounts of money with no fix. I wish a simple mechanical tranny was still available. Apparently the diagnosis is usually pretty straightforward with SDS if you just follow the steps. The guy who almost sold me that 2000 wagon thought there was a wiring issue somewhere in the transmission circuit and I suspect he's right. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 98 ML with tranny trouble
Star Transmission in Edmund OK is a good source for trans. I only sold them a core, not sourced one. clay On Jan 12, 2014, at 11:40 AM, Dan Penoff wrote: There are also some issues related to breaking springs in the valve body as well. Easy fix and a good time to do a conductor plate while you're there. Dan On Jan 12, 2014, at 2:24 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Peter Frederick wrote: Anybody know anything about transmission trouble in early MLs? There is one on locally for cheap, but I don't want to look into it unless it's a reasonable repair. Reasonable repair: replace conductor plate and reprogram the transmission with Star Diagnostic System or equivalent. Unreasonable repair: A fellow had a beautiful red 2000 4Matic wagon with 80k miles for $1700 last fall, I passed when I found out he did the above and much more to it and still couldn't get the transmission out of limp mode. When somebody with better tools than mine admits defeat after screwing with it for months, I know to take a pass. My 1999 wagon was the reasonable one. The seller said the transmission occasionally acted up, his mechanic told him it needed a conductor plate. I ended up buying it sight unseen for $2k and having Rusty ship a conductor plate to his mechanic to fix it while I flew out to pick it up. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 98 ML with tranny trouble
I had very good experiences buying from Potomac in the past. LKQ, which bought Potomac several years ago, and has a huge warehouse and fleet of trucks near where I live in North Central Florida, seemed like a good place to buy used parts in the future; so I ordered an alternator. The alternator came shrink wrapped in opaque plastic so I didn't open it. I put it on the shelf as a spare; thinking it would be on a par with Potomacs parts. When I opened it several months later I found it was caked with grease and mud, the slip rings were highly grooved, and the brushes worn far down; nothing close to the clean and well tested parts I had bought from Potomac. As far as I am concerned LKQ should be avoided, at least for retail sales. It is probably interested primarily in selling body parts to body shops since that's what we see them constantly hauling in and out of the warehouse. FWIW.Gerry On 1/12/2014 2:58 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: My 1983 300TD transmission gave up the ghost 4 years ago. I bought a 150K mile 1985 300TD used transmission from Potomac German Auto (now LQ) for $750, less a $50 discount and free shipping to RC Imports in Rockville, MD. Total cost for the R/R was maybe another $750. The car has run fantastic ever since - shifts smoothly without the jarring slingshots that chartacterized the 83 transmission. I also have a ton more power, and the AC runs ice cold. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running rough...help!
Thanks for the great feedback! I have quite a it to work with. I will keep the group informed -Original Message- From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, Jan 12, 2014 12:20 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running rough...help! The main leaks on a K-jet system are at the idle speed control valve, the boot on the throttle body, and the hose at the cold start valve. Note that a cold start valve failed open will flood the engine badly at idle. Here's what I would do: Remove the air filter housing and verify that the air meter flap is all the way up with the engine off. If it's not, you will have to remove the fuel distributor and find out why. Even slightly depressed below zero position will cause the engine to flood at idle. If it's rubbing on the venturi it will also run lean immediately on throttle opening until it unsticks. If it's all the way up, press down gently (engine off, but fuel pressure). It MUST move smoothly with no hangs or roughness and MUST return fully to the zero position all by itself. If not, the pivot or pressure pin is binding. If you see any problems, remove the fuel distributor, take the boot off, and pull and clean the pivot pin. Should restore normal function (this is a problem with cars that have had a bad air filter or a big vacuum leak). You may need to pull the regulator pin on the bottom of the fuel distributor and clean it, possibly replace the seal if there is fuel leaking. Check to make sure you didn't use a long screw when putting the boot back on the fuel distributor in the one spot you have to use a short one, as this will crush the position sensor and cause all sorts of problem with the computer. Also verify that the computer connections are clean and properly installed. Verify that the idle control valve hoses are not cracked or loose on the barbs of the idle control valve. Chronic issue with them, they split down the mold line for me and I've replaced them three times on the TE so far. I ended up using hose clamps, solved all sorts of idle problems. Might flush the idle control valve out with carb cleaner, they are usually dirty. Verify that the boot from the air flow meter to throttle body is actually over the back side of the throttle body, it's a HUGE pain to get it right. Always install the back side first, then pull it over the lip on the fender side where you can see what you are doing. If it's not over the lip all the way around, you are going to have fits. Check for fuel in the vent line from the regulator to the crankcase ventilation hose. If there is any fuel in there, the regulator has failed and can be over-pressuring the system, which will flood. It is very unlikely that the fuel mixture needs to be changed -- almost always, you have another issue causing the problem. Test the cold start valve. You can pull it out of the hose while still attached just after shutting the engine off, if its' dripping, replace it. If you have a helper, have them start the car with the valve out of the hose but still connected, it should puff a very short squirt unless it's very cold, then stop completely. Dribbles will flood you out. If nothing seems wrong and it still runs rich, I would clean the pivot and regulator pin on the old fuel distributor, fix the vacuum leaks (likely a hardened boot and idle control valve hoses) and re-install it. Sadly, sitting unused causes serious problems with K-jet fuel distributors, and in the worst case the diaphragm corrodes through. This results in fuel pouring into the engine, just as you describe. A stuck meter flap will do the same thing, though, and is easier to fix. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 98 ML with tranny trouble
Now that would be fine, eh? Nice car for the cost of a $4 spring! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Political History, and a not so funny for andrew
Whatever it was i heard had nothing to do with counterfeiting or currency. at the end of the report, they said it was being investigated by the SS. SS is part of treasury department, so they investigate money crimes. Maybe Osama Sotero is making his own Republican Guard More likely his own version of the KGB/SS clay On Jan 11, 2014, at 10:53 PM, Dieselhead wrote: And BTW, I work for an agency where transparency is the rule and confidentiality the exception. In the most transparent administration E-verrr! I can do everything but disclose the name of my agency. Hm...when I worked for the gummint there was one agency we would only refer to as other government agencies rather than naming it. The rest we would speak of in the clear, but we were discouraged from using the actual name of this one agency. Greg Ayup ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 98 ML with tranny trouble
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: He probably did not replace the $4 spring that will also put it on limp mode He didn't replace any springs or mess with the valve body because he thought the SDS codes pointed to electrical issues. He also broke loose the captive nut on the conductor plate, but that was due to overtightening after he put it together and still had the codes coming up when he went back in and tried to tighten it in desperation. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Unwarranted attention for andrew
Ok --R (sent from my miniPad) On Jan 12, 2014, at 2:51 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Will someone please change the subject line for this thread? I can't stand the unwarranted attention. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 2:37 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: Let's see, the clowns running the 2000 elections in South Fl couldn't (or wouldn't or at least did't) maintain their punch card equipment. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of roger...@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 10:32 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Political History, and a not so funny for andrew Tim, If you think computers are not risky at counting votes by themselves while leaving no detailed trail, then I have some perfectly good, but moist land I'll sell you next to the creek here in Georgia. Personally, I think you need something as an audit trail as our voting machines, I believe, were once created by a company owned by the South American dictator who gave our POTUS a questionable book as a gift. Doesn't leave me with a good, safe feeling. I like the punch cards, but then someone thought they were pregnant and not safe. Not sure whether our current system is more prone to abortions or the old system that could look pregnant. Just saying. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who wants raspberry pi?
I've got a couple of them, I think they were $35 or as part of a package of stuff. That's a good price though. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Jan 12, 2014, at 2:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: WTF? On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Mitchell Haley, EA m...@voyager.net wrote: $30 at microcenter: http://www.microcenter.com/product/414588/Raspberry_Pi_Model_B ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Unwarranted attention for andrew
Ok --R (sent from my miniPad) So andrew, do you do domestic spying or international? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 98 ML with tranny trouble
Kent Bergsma put out an excellent series of YouTube videos which show how to fix the 722.6 tranny. He says that most problems are electrical and fairly easy to fix. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: The 722.6 electronic is a much nicer and easy to work on tranny than the old ones! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Sadly, the ML tranny is electronically controlled, which raises big alarms signs in terms of spending huge amounts of money with no fix. I wish a simple mechanical tranny was still available. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a bargain
And tobacco brown is a close third:) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Diamond blue is no. 1 in my book. Maroon is a close second. On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Rick Hawkins Java wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/4275458537.html Looks nice. Maybe even $6900 nice. Is original California car a dirty phrase when talking about a 1984 300D, or is that only the 1985 CA cars? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 98 ML with tranny trouble
dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Kent Bergsma put out an excellent series of YouTube videos which show how to fix the 722.6 tranny. He says that most problems are electrical and fairly easy to fix. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdt4g5jqo4E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a bargain
No. China blue before that. :) On Jan 12, 2014 5:16 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: And tobacco brown is a close third:) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Diamond blue is no. 1 in my book. Maroon is a close second. On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Rick Hawkins Java wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/4275458537.html Looks nice. Maybe even $6900 nice. Is original California car a dirty phrase when talking about a 1984 300D, or is that only the 1985 CA cars? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Trouble brewin'
I learned more in one day doing the head gasket on my car with a group than in a month of wrenching on stuff by myself. -Curt Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 08:03:07 -0700 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trouble brewin' Message-ID: 20140112080307.7c10cc832ed6d24d31d85...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 11 Jan 2014 22:15:14 -0500 Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in. On Jan 11, 2014 10:13 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm game. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 11, 2014, at 10:10 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Party at Fred's place. It's encouraging to see how much you guys help each other! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a bargain
Then you would probably like this W124 300E wagon a local has for sale here in Tampa. His price is a little optimistic, maybe, but he's done a lot of work on it and it really looks nice: http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-giveaway/1842210-94-e320-w124-wagon-tampa-bay.html#post7060122 Idaho Dave was picking it apart early in the thread, but I think he got bored and moved on Dan On Jan 12, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Dwight Giles wrote: No. China blue before that. :) On Jan 12, 2014 5:16 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: And tobacco brown is a close third:) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Diamond blue is no. 1 in my book. Maroon is a close second. On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Rick Hawkins Java wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/4275458537.html Looks nice. Maybe even $6900 nice. Is original California car a dirty phrase when talking about a 1984 300D, or is that only the 1985 CA cars? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a bargain
Yeah but Andrew hates brown. Pulling his leg:) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: No. China blue before that. :) On Jan 12, 2014 5:16 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: And tobacco brown is a close third:) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Diamond blue is no. 1 in my book. Maroon is a close second. On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Rick Hawkins Java wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/4275458537.html Looks nice. Maybe even $6900 nice. Is original California car a dirty phrase when talking about a 1984 300D, or is that only the 1985 CA cars? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 98 ML with tranny trouble
Oh boy, kent Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 3:52 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Kent Bergsma put out an excellent series of YouTube videos which show how to fix the 722.6 tranny. He says that most problems are electrical and fairly easy to fix. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: The 722.6 electronic is a much nicer and easy to work on tranny than the old ones! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Sadly, the ML tranny is electronically controlled, which raises big alarms signs in terms of spending huge amounts of money with no fix. I wish a simple mechanical tranny was still available. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running rough...help!
Since changing the fuel distributor is really not difficult I decided to put the old one back on and see what happens. It started up pretty quick and ran rough with excessive white smoke. I assume that's the excess fuel in the system burning off. Have a party to attend so can't wait for it to burn off...hopefully it's not too long. I will resume the quest tomorrow. Thanks to all! -Original Message- From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, Jan 12, 2014 12:32 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running rough...help! Thanks Mitch. I'm still battling mine, I suspect I need to bite the bullet and take the fuel distributor off and clean everything up. Just put a new regulator on the alternator today, battery went flat between Monday (when it started at -4) and Friday night. Good thing it didn't poop out on me in the cold. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 98 ML with tranny trouble
Kent rules. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 6:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Oh boy, kent Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 3:52 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Kent Bergsma put out an excellent series of YouTube videos which show how to fix the 722.6 tranny. He says that most problems are electrical and fairly easy to fix. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: The 722.6 electronic is a much nicer and easy to work on tranny than the old ones! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Sadly, the ML tranny is electronically controlled, which raises big alarms signs in terms of spending huge amounts of money with no fix. I wish a simple mechanical tranny was still available. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who wants raspberry pi?
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 14:42:16 -0500 (EST) Mitchell Haley, EA m...@voyager.net wrote: $30 at microcenter: http://www.microcenter.com/product/414588/Raspberry_Pi_Model_B From that page, Save $10.00 / Originally $39.99 Find online. Buy in store. No stores near us. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running rough...help!
So why did you replace it in the first place? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Robert Koziak rkmerce...@aol.com wrote: Since changing the fuel distributor is really not difficult I decided to put the old one back on and see what happens. It started up pretty quick and ran rough with excessive white smoke. I assume that's the excess fuel in the system burning off. Have a party to attend so can't wait for it to burn off...hopefully it's not too long. I will resume the quest tomorrow. Thanks to all! -Original Message- From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, Jan 12, 2014 12:32 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1990 MB 300E - Replaced Fuel Distributor - Running rough...help! Thanks Mitch. I'm still battling mine, I suspect I need to bite the bullet and take the fuel distributor off and clean everything up. Just put a new regulator on the alternator today, battery went flat between Monday (when it started at -4) and Friday night. Good thing it didn't poop out on me in the cold. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 98 ML with tranny trouble
Geez Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 5:17 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Kent rules. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 6:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: Oh boy, kent Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 3:52 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Kent Bergsma put out an excellent series of YouTube videos which show how to fix the 722.6 tranny. He says that most problems are electrical and fairly easy to fix. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: The 722.6 electronic is a much nicer and easy to work on tranny than the old ones! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 2:02 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Sadly, the ML tranny is electronically controlled, which raises big alarms signs in terms of spending huge amounts of money with no fix. I wish a simple mechanical tranny was still available. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who wants raspberry pi?
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 14:52:43 -0500 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: WTF? On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Mitchell Haley, EA m...@voyager.net wrote: $30 at microcenter: http://www.microcenter.com/product/414588/Raspberry_Pi_Model_B You could go to that page and see what it says. You could easily learn something. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Who wants raspberry pi?
My point is - why would I want one? On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:19 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 14:52:43 -0500 Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: WTF? On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Mitchell Haley, EA m...@voyager.net wrote: $30 at microcenter: http://www.microcenter.com/product/414588/Raspberry_Pi_Model_B You could go to that page and see what it says. You could easily learn something. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Unwarranted attention for andrew
Hard to explain, but you all have nothing to worry about. Yet. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Ok --R (sent from my miniPad) So andrew, do you do domestic spying or international? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] a bargain
Haha. is that the worst thing you can say about me? On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 5:53 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah but Andrew hates brown. Pulling his leg:) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: No. China blue before that. :) On Jan 12, 2014 5:16 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: And tobacco brown is a close third:) Sent from my iPhone On Jan 12, 2014, at 12:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Diamond blue is no. 1 in my book. Maroon is a close second. On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Rick Hawkins Java wrote: http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/4275458537.html Looks nice. Maybe even $6900 nice. Is original California car a dirty phrase when talking about a 1984 300D, or is that only the 1985 CA cars? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
