Re: [MBZ] OT - Back to Guns
Neither. A vast wasteland when it comes to big box sporting goods retailers, although I bet both are in the Orlando area. Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 12, 2014, at 9:52 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Original Message From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 8:44 PM To: Mercedes List Reply To: Dan Penoff Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Back to Guns No Sportsman’s Warehouse in Florida. Closest thing would be Dick’s Do you have Cabela's, or Gander Mountain? They have a good selection of firearms around here. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
Back when wind was big the first time due to tax subsidies (MEOW as Jimmuh called it), I was tasked to study something called a superconducting magnetic energy storage system. This is basically a large supercooled metal donut into which electrical energy is injected, then it keeps flowing until pulled out. A very cold battery. I created a software simulation and ran various scenarios which basically showed it would not work, despite it seeming to be a good idea. Physics. Most such schemes try to violate The Laws even when they can be bent a bit with various clever tricks. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Nov 12, 2014, at 11:23 PM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I've followed all those possible storage modalities and I don't see great progress with them. Please edumacate me. Grant... Funny how the laws of physics, gravity and Basiat's The Law always catch up with those who try to break or bend them. Send me enough money and I will make a perpetual motion machine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Back to Guns
Gander Mtn ad in this morning's paper shows the Ruger light for $449 --R On 11/12/14 9:52 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Original Message From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 8:44 PM To: Mercedes List Reply To: Dan Penoff Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Back to Guns No Sportsman’s Warehouse in Florida. Closest thing would be Dick’s Do you have Cabela's, or Gander Mountain? They have a good selection of firearms around here. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride
http://carbuying.jalopnik.com/volkswagens-new-diesel-motor-makes-268hp-could-get-up-t-1657874426 --R On 11/12/14 9:29 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: Yabut we wine drinkin', cheese eatin', ancient yuppies also care about the environment, global warming, little owls, rare mice, and EPA bureaucrats; so we buy Prius' and blow your smelly old diesels off the road. [:o) Gerry dseretakis wrote: I still don't understand why the vast majority of stupid American cows in the herd can't see this. A small engined diesel powered car will outperform a Priapism on all fronts yet they still buy priapisms. Argh!! Sent from my iPhone On Nov 11, 2014, at 8:16 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yeah around town... Let's go from Florida to New England and back. My TDI will stomp a Prius for mileage, speed, comfort and price... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5315 / Virus Database: 4213/8562 - Release Date: 11/12/14 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Wood Floors - solid wood vs. engineered
CINC would be Commander IN Chief. COMHOMELANT would be Commander, Atlantic Home. I can't quite figure out Curly's abbreviations... Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Nov 12, 2014 9:26 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: AF designation would be CINCHOME. 'Hope all are well. ;) Civvy interpretation would be Complainer In Chief, Home? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Back to Guns
Find a local gun shop and support them, big box retailers are ruining America Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Back to Guns
That's what I have been doing. There is a Mom and Pop shop with a small indoor range where we had our pistol training. I strongly believe in supporting local businesses, which is why I went there in the first place. He quoted me a very competitive price on the Mark III the other day. I haven't asked them to quote me anything on shotguns yet, but I probably will. When I do buy a pistol I'll buy it from them. Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 13, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Find a local gun shop and support them, big box retailers are ruining America Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Date:Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 5:28 AM Subject:Re: [MBZ] OT - Back to Guns Neither. A vast wasteland when it comes to big box sporting goods retailers, although I bet both are in the Orlando area. Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 12, 2014, at 9:52 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Original Message From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 8:44 PM To: Mercedes List Reply To: Dan Penoff Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Back to Guns No Sportsman’s Warehouse in Florida. Closest thing would be Dick’s Do you have Cabela's, or Gander Mountain? They have a good selection of firearms around here. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
If you could make enough power cheap enough making hydrogen would be worth it. In California they may end up using wind power to desalinate water... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Back to Guns
What did he quote you? I've got one, I can't remember if its a II or III, curious what it might be worth. I've got a High Standard .22 that I like better. I made custom pine grips for it when I was in high school, dad said they wouldn't last but I shot a lot for the first few years after I made them and that was more than 20 years ago. I shot it last summer and the grips are still good. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
The only viable solution to over use of energy, it to run out of it and revert to the stone age. So, Andrew, throw away your Ipod, your computer access, all your electrical devices, park your Prius [forever] and learn to kill tasty animals and build fire. All efforts otherwise are futile, accept your fate. Imagine the effect of only one EMP delivered at high altitude over the East Coast. All power grids are now controlled by computers, which are most likely fried by EMP. The last time we had a solar plasma flair the power lines and telegraph lines were melted off the poles.. Feel fragile yet? I offer this to all those who love to worry about things they have no control over.. it helps occupy their minds... ;)) Grant... On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If you could make enough power cheap enough making hydrogen would be worth it. In California they may end up using wind power to desalinate water... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Back to Guns
What did he quote you? I've got one, I can't remember if its a II or III, curious what it might be worth. I've got a High Standard .22 that I like better. I made custom pine grips for it when I was in high school, dad said they wouldn't last but I shot a lot for the first few years after I made them and that was more than 20 years ago. I shot it last summer and the grips are still good. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
While you jeer, sneer and cast corrosive witticisms from the sidelines, solar and wind power are growing by leaps and bounds, here and abroad. The price of PV continues to plummet, and utilities are warming to the idea of distributed generation (rooftop and community solar and wind). Lots of great things are going on, and it's hard to keep up. It's not my job to educate you, however. On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:23 AM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The only viable solution to over use of energy, it to run out of it and revert to the stone age. So, Andrew, throw away your Ipod, your computer access, all your electrical devices, park your Prius [forever] and learn to kill tasty animals and build fire. All efforts otherwise are futile, accept your fate. Imagine the effect of only one EMP delivered at high altitude over the East Coast. All power grids are now controlled by computers, which are most likely fried by EMP. The last time we had a solar plasma flair the power lines and telegraph lines were melted off the poles.. Feel fragile yet? I offer this to all those who love to worry about things they have no control over.. it helps occupy their minds... ;)) Grant... On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If you could make enough power cheap enough making hydrogen would be worth it. In California they may end up using wind power to desalinate water... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 10:37 AM To: G Mann; Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Andrew Strasfogel Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines The price of PV continues to plummet, and utilities are warming to the idea of distributed generation What is PV? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: We almost never see more than $0.50 spread which considering how much more you spent on your Prius than I spent on the Jetta will but a helluva lot of fuel... I'm curious how you arrive at this conclusion. I've been keeping tabs on new car prices (fallback if the van fails and I don't have Wilton's SDL reliable), all base MSRP for 2015s off manufacturer web sites: TDI Jetta: can't find a price with the TDI, didn't look too hard TDI Jetta Wagon: 26565 TDI Passat: 33585 Prius 2: 24200 ...three middle models... Prius 5: 30005 The back seat on the Jetta is really too small for all the children, so I was mostly looking at the Passat until I saw the price for the TDI upgrade. Also, diesel here is consistently between 60c and 90c more expensive here than regular. Personally I'd rather have a Camry hybrid (26790 (vs 22970 for non-hybrid)), but the Prius family is really not a bad deal given the market. Now, why we can't import baby diesels like they have in India I don't quite understand, but given the family situation it's really a moot point for me anyway. :) Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
Solar. PhotoVoltaic. Dan On Nov 13, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: : Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 10:37 AM To: G Mann; Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Andrew Strasfogel Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines The price of PV continues to plummet, and utilities are warming to the idea of distributed generation What is PV? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride
On November 13, 2014 at 12:04 PM Tim Crone via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: We almost never see more than $0.50 spread which considering how much more you spent on your Prius than I spent on the Jetta will but a helluva lot of fuel... I'm curious how you arrive at this conclusion. Curt has a $1500 Jetta TDI. I saw it when Curt and Angie drove it to Michigan last summer. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote: Curt has a $1500 Jetta TDI. Ah! Well, yes, used is usually cheaper than new. :) Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Wood Floors - solid wood vs. engineered
Commander, mid america How did the COMMIDAM orders fly with COMHOMELANT? CINC would be Commander IN Chief. COMHOMELANT would be Commander, Atlantic Home. I can't quite figure out Curly's abbreviations... Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
Polyvinyl as in PVC Or premature ventricular as in PVC (premature ventricular contractions) I think andy means photo voltaic as is solar cells Navy undoubtedly has other meanings for PV : Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 10:37 AM To: G Mann; Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Andrew Strasfogel Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines The price of PV continues to plummet, and utilities are warming to the idea of distributed generation What is PV? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote: Curt has a $1500 Jetta TDI. Ah! Well, yes, used is usually cheaper than new. :) Best, Tim ___ I think Curt's point was that a used Jetta is so much cheaper than a new or used pious in working condition, that you can buy a LOT of Diesel fuel with the difference. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
Be nice now. Wind and PV and other alternatives have a place where they make technical and economic sense, without artificial economics (and don't go off on the all bidness as a straw dog); otherwise, it is all apples and oranges and peaches. Spain almost went broke (or they did until the Germans bailed them out) over their expenditures on wind and solar, so there is that data point. The Brits are pissing off a good part of the population with wind machines whumpwhumpwhumpwhump --R On 11/13/14 11:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: While you jeer, sneer and cast corrosive witticisms from the sidelines, solar and wind power are growing by leaps and bounds, here and abroad. The price of PV continues to plummet, and utilities are warming to the idea of distributed generation (rooftop and community solar and wind). Lots of great things are going on, and it's hard to keep up. It's not my job to educate you, however. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
But they will benefit with cleaner air and better health. On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Be nice now. Wind and PV and other alternatives have a place where they make technical and economic sense, without artificial economics (and don't go off on the all bidness as a straw dog); otherwise, it is all apples and oranges and peaches. Spain almost went broke (or they did until the Germans bailed them out) over their expenditures on wind and solar, so there is that data point. The Brits are pissing off a good part of the population with wind machines whumpwhumpwhumpwhump --R On 11/13/14 11:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: While you jeer, sneer and cast corrosive witticisms from the sidelines, solar and wind power are growing by leaps and bounds, here and abroad. The price of PV continues to plummet, and utilities are warming to the idea of distributed generation (rooftop and community solar and wind). Lots of great things are going on, and it's hard to keep up. It's not my job to educate you, however. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride
I'm not piling on or taking sides here, just curious: What kind of costs are involved in replacement of the batteries on a Prius? I had an acquaintance who bought one new and later sold or traded it when the batteries needed replacement. She didn't know what the costs were when I asked (her husband is a CPA and dealt with all the car buying details.) She's driving a CPO Benz of some sort now... Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 13, 2014, at 12:58 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote: Curt has a $1500 Jetta TDI. Ah! Well, yes, used is usually cheaper than new. :) Best, Tim ___ I think Curt's point was that a used Jetta is so much cheaper than a new or used pious in working condition, that you can buy a LOT of Diesel fuel with the difference. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
Nobody calle me Andy and gets away with it, except for college and pre-college friends. On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Polyvinyl as in PVC Or premature ventricular as in PVC (premature ventricular contractions) I think andy means photo voltaic as is solar cells Navy undoubtedly has other meanings for PV : Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 10:37 AM To: G Mann; Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Andrew Strasfogel Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines The price of PV continues to plummet, and utilities are warming to the idea of distributed generation What is PV? Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Back to Guns
I can't tell you exactly, but I believe he wanted around $360 for the Mark III Target in a blued finish with the bull barrel. The tapered barrel model was cheaper, but I like the Target model with the bull barrel better. Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 13, 2014, at 11:08 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: What did he quote you? I've got one, I can't remember if its a II or III, curious what it might be worth. I've got a High Standard .22 that I like better. I made custom pine grips for it when I was in high school, dad said they wouldn't last but I shot a lot for the first few years after I made them and that was more than 20 years ago. I shot it last summer and the grips are still good. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Date:Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:06 AM Subject:Re: [MBZ] OT - Back to Guns That's what I have been doing. There is a Mom and Pop shop with a small indoor range where we had our pistol training. I strongly believe in supporting local businesses, which is why I went there in the first place. He quoted me a very competitive price on the Mark III the other day. I haven't asked them to quote me anything on shotguns yet, but I probably will. When I do buy a pistol I'll buy it from them. Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 13, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Find a local gun shop and support them, big box retailers are ruining America Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Date:Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 5:28 AM Subject:Re: [MBZ] OT - Back to Guns Neither. A vast wasteland when it comes to big box sporting goods retailers, although I bet both are in the Orlando area. Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 12, 2014, at 9:52 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Original Message From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 8:44 PM To: Mercedes List Reply To: Dan Penoff Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Back to Guns No Sportsman’s Warehouse in Florida. Closest thing would be Dick’s Do you have Cabela's, or Gander Mountain? They have a good selection of firearms around here. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
One consideration that seems mostly forgotten is the environmental impact of wind turbines AND fields of solar panels (visual, wild life deaths, noise - yes wind turbines make noise, etc.). There are a thousands of acres of both in the desert north of Los Angeles and they are a blight. Not to mention that due to transmission losses they have to be sited somewhat near the end users. SO we all get the impacts. AT CL500 On Nov 13, 2014, at 9:05 AM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines Date: November 13, 2014 8:37:27 AM PST While you jeer, sneer and cast corrosive witticisms from the sidelines, solar and wind power are growing by leaps and bounds, here and abroad. The price of PV continues to plummet, and utilities are warming to the idea of distributed generation (rooftop and community solar and wind). Lots of great things are going on, and it's hard to keep up. It's not my job to educate you, however. On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:23 AM, G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The only viable solution to over use of energy, it to run out of it and revert to the stone age. So, Andrew, throw away your Ipod, your computer access, all your electrical devices, park your Prius [forever] and learn to kill tasty animals and build fire. All efforts otherwise are futile, accept your fate. Imagine the effect of only one EMP delivered at high altitude over the East Coast. All power grids are now controlled by computers, which are most likely fried by EMP. The last time we had a solar plasma flair the power lines and telegraph lines were melted off the poles.. Feel fragile yet? I offer this to all those who love to worry about things they have no control over.. it helps occupy their minds... ;)) Grant... On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If you could make enough power cheap enough making hydrogen would be worth it. In California they may end up using wind power to desalinate water... Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
But they will benefit with cleaner air and better health. On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Be nice now. Wind and PV and other alternatives have a place where they make technical and economic sense, without artificial economics (and don't go off on the all bidness as a straw dog); otherwise, it is all apples and oranges and peaches. Spain almost went broke (or they did until the Germans bailed them out) over their expenditures on wind and solar, so there is that data point. The Brits are pissing off a good part of the population with wind machines whumpwhumpwhumpwhump --R Cleaner air: maybe Better health: Very debatable. Have you seen the health claims made by people who live under hi-lines or near wind turbines? I'll take a modern coal fired generator plant any day over the alternatives, unless/except nat Gas fired and hydro are good, where available. Off the grid, I would use wind, solar and batteries. People do that all the time. it is very expensive electric, and off the grid folks don't use much electricity. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
Kind of surprised no one commented on my submission of a couple of articles on thorium reactors. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
One consideration that seems mostly forgotten is the environmental impact of wind turbines AND fields of solar panels (visual, wild life deaths, noise - yes wind turbines make noise, etc.). There are a thousands of acres of both in the desert north of Los Angeles and they are a blight. Not to mention that due to transmission losses they have to be sited somewhat near the end users. SO we all get the impacts. AT CL500 Aside from the health and noise problems for humans from BIG GEN, them thar big blades whack a LOT of birds, mutilating them and causing death and destruction. I think if they are run after dark they mess up the Bat-radar and lead to a lot of dead bats too. All factors the central contollers disguised as envirowackos don't consider. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
Andy, I think I just did Nobody calle me Andy and gets away with it, except for college and pre-college friends. On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.commercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Polyvinyl as in PVC Or premature ventricular as in PVC (premature ventricular contractions) I think andy means photo voltaic as is solar cells Navy undoubtedly has other meanings for PV ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Back to Guns
So the price hasn't changed much in 10 years. The bull barrel is much more accurate, mine is the taper. The big problem I remember with them is the trigger is very complicated and hard to work on. Many were ruined by people who didn't know what they were really doing worked on them. Cury Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
Solar doesn't kill anything. Here they're putting them on old landfills... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
If that were true the ground under the turbines would be covered with dead birds which they aren't... Not in new England anyway... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
On 13/11/2014 1:01 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: If that were true the ground under the turbines would be covered with dead birds which they aren't... Not in new England anyway... Curt Do you see fat Foxes etc around? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
Good point, although it is alleged that predators eat them quickly. On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If that were true the ground under the turbines would be covered with dead birds which they aren't... Not in new England anyway... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
Hilarious. On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Andy, I think I just did Nobody calle me Andy and gets away with it, except for college and pre-college friends. On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mailto: mercedes@okiebenz.commercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Polyvinyl as in PVC Or premature ventricular as in PVC (premature ventricular contractions) I think andy means photo voltaic as is solar cells Navy undoubtedly has other meanings for PV ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
On November 13, 2014 at 2:01 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: If that were true the ground under the turbines would be covered with dead birds which they aren't... Not in new England anyway... Is the ground covered with feral cats, foxes, racoons, coyotes, and live carrion eating birds? I remember an article in Homepower magazine on the topic of bird kills, I think it was mainly about the 100 meter utility turbines. I don't remember exactly, but I think it said 'yep, turbines kill birds, but not as many as cars do'. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
On November 13, 2014 at 11:23 AM G Mann via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Imagine the effect of only one EMP delivered at high altitude over the East Coast. http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Angel-Complete-Jessica-Alba/dp/B00152R4VK ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride
Batteries used to be in the $10k range for the early cars. Now there are generics that run $3k. The pita is that the dumb cars are scrap when the little battery goes dead. The whole thing will not work until a fresh $200 (?!?) lead acid or glass wrap is put in. Then all the computers need a reset, according to my neighbor. The main battery can be in perfect shape, but the tiny one controls the car On Nov 13, 2014, at 9:08 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I'm not piling on or taking sides here, just curious: What kind of costs are involved in replacement of the batteries on a Prius? I had an acquaintance who bought one new and later sold or traded it when the batteries needed replacement. She didn't know what the costs were when I asked (her husband is a CPA and dealt with all the car buying details.) She's driving a CPO Benz of some sort now... Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 13, 2014, at 12:58 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote: Curt has a $1500 Jetta TDI. Ah! Well, yes, used is usually cheaper than new. :) Best, Tim ___ I think Curt's point was that a used Jetta is so much cheaper than a new or used pious in working condition, that you can buy a LOT of Diesel fuel with the difference. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride
I guess my next question would be, how long can one expect the main battery to last? Is it a time or mileage thing? Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 13, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Batteries used to be in the $10k range for the early cars. Now there are generics that run $3k. The pita is that the dumb cars are scrap when the little battery goes dead. The whole thing will not work until a fresh $200 (?!?) lead acid or glass wrap is put in. Then all the computers need a reset, according to my neighbor. The main battery can be in perfect shape, but the tiny one controls the car On Nov 13, 2014, at 9:08 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I'm not piling on or taking sides here, just curious: What kind of costs are involved in replacement of the batteries on a Prius? I had an acquaintance who bought one new and later sold or traded it when the batteries needed replacement. She didn't know what the costs were when I asked (her husband is a CPA and dealt with all the car buying details.) She's driving a CPO Benz of some sort now... Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 13, 2014, at 12:58 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote: Curt has a $1500 Jetta TDI. Ah! Well, yes, used is usually cheaper than new. :) Best, Tim ___ I think Curt's point was that a used Jetta is so much cheaper than a new or used pious in working condition, that you can buy a LOT of Diesel fuel with the difference. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Back to Guns
I talked to the gun shop guy about that. He said that field stripping the Mark III is tricky, but once you've done it a couple of times it's not bad. He pointed me to a couple of YouTube videos that document it in detail, and it doesn't look difficult at all. Just some awareness as to the location of various action parts when you are assembling. Ruger has a video on their website about it, too, but it's poorly done in my opinion. Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 13, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: So the price hasn't changed much in 10 years. The bull barrel is much more accurate, mine is the taper. The big problem I remember with them is the trigger is very complicated and hard to work on. Many were ruined by people who didn't know what they were really doing worked on them. Cury Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Date:Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 1:14 PM Subject:Re: [MBZ] OT - Back to Guns I can't tell you exactly, but I believe he wanted around $360 for the Mark III Target in a blued finish with the bull barrel. The tapered barrel model was cheaper, but I like the Target model with the bull barrel better. Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 13, 2014, at 11:08 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: What did he quote you? I've got one, I can't remember if its a II or III, curious what it might be worth. I've got a High Standard .22 that I like better. I made custom pine grips for it when I was in high school, dad said they wouldn't last but I shot a lot for the first few years after I made them and that was more than 20 years ago. I shot it last summer and the grips are still good. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Date:Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:06 AM Subject:Re: [MBZ] OT - Back to Guns That's what I have been doing. There is a Mom and Pop shop with a small indoor range where we had our pistol training. I strongly believe in supporting local businesses, which is why I went there in the first place. He quoted me a very competitive price on the Mark III the other day. I haven't asked them to quote me anything on shotguns yet, but I probably will. When I do buy a pistol I'll buy it from them. Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 13, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Find a local gun shop and support them, big box retailers are ruining America Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From:Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Date:Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 5:28 AM Subject:Re: [MBZ] OT - Back to Guns Neither. A vast wasteland when it comes to big box sporting goods retailers, although I bet both are in the Orlando area. Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 12, 2014, at 9:52 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Original Message From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 8:44 PM To: Mercedes List Reply To: Dan Penoff Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Back to Guns No Sportsman’s Warehouse in Florida. Closest thing would be Dick’s Do you have Cabela's, or Gander Mountain? They have a good selection of firearms around here. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___
Re: [MBZ] OT Wood Floors - solid wood vs. engineered
Ah, got it. COMHOMELANT only recognizes one higher authority, and it isn't COMMIDAM! Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Nov 13, 2014 12:51 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Commander, mid america How did the COMMIDAM orders fly with COMHOMELANT? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
Regarding cleaner air and better health, replacing coal power plants with natural gas is a huge step forward. I just finished listening to a podcast interview of Gregory Zuckerman about his book The Frackers: The Outrageous Inside Story of the New Billionaire Wildcatters. Zuckerman proposed that we should be helping China use fracking to find more gas and oil in their country, so they can replace their coal power plants with gas fired plants, like we are. It seems that fracking is a game changer, and cheap abundant gas is our energy future, vice nuclear. Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride
I think it was charge/discharge cycles over time. Something like 8-10 years, but as little as six. Short trips and poor driving habits (hard braking and accel). The base load is handled by the gas engine, the electric is used for power boost on highway and for slow speed/city traffic/starts. Gas cuts off at a stop, battery takes over for ultra slow speed travel until something like 6+mph. There is also a latent drain on the main lithium cells at rest. If the car is not taken for a ride regularly, it drains and reduces capacity and life span. Grandma had an early priapismo and it died quietly in the garage. It being a sunday driver less than a mile to church. clay On Nov 13, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I guess my next question would be, how long can one expect the main battery to last? Is it a time or mileage thing? Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 13, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Batteries used to be in the $10k range for the early cars. Now there are generics that run $3k. The pita is that the dumb cars are scrap when the little battery goes dead. The whole thing will not work until a fresh $200 (?!?) lead acid or glass wrap is put in. Then all the computers need a reset, according to my neighbor. The main battery can be in perfect shape, but the tiny one controls the car On Nov 13, 2014, at 9:08 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I'm not piling on or taking sides here, just curious: What kind of costs are involved in replacement of the batteries on a Prius? I had an acquaintance who bought one new and later sold or traded it when the batteries needed replacement. She didn't know what the costs were when I asked (her husband is a CPA and dealt with all the car buying details.) She's driving a CPO Benz of some sort now... Dan Sent from my iPad On Nov 13, 2014, at 12:58 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote: Curt has a $1500 Jetta TDI. Ah! Well, yes, used is usually cheaper than new. :) Best, Tim ___ I think Curt's point was that a used Jetta is so much cheaper than a new or used pious in working condition, that you can buy a LOT of Diesel fuel with the difference. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride
On 13/11/2014 1:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I guess my next question would be, how long can one expect the main battery to last? Is it a time or mileage thing? Dan My understanding is that they have a good warranty and the batteries last very well. Pretty well all of the taxi cabs around here are Prius and the cabbies swear they are great. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride
On 13/11/2014 2:34 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote: I think it was charge/discharge cycles over time. Something like 8-10 years, but as little as six. Short trips and poor driving habits (hard braking and accel). The base load is handled by the gas engine, the electric is used for power boost on highway and for slow speed/city traffic/starts. Gas cuts off at a stop, battery takes over for ultra slow speed travel until something like 6+mph. There is also a latent drain on the main lithium cells at rest. If the car is not taken for a ride regularly, it drains and reduces capacity and life span. Grandma had an early priapismo and it died quietly in the garage. It being a sunday driver less than a mile to church. clay So, like a diesel, one must use them hard. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride
How reliable are Pruises when it's 40 below? On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 13/11/2014 2:34 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote: I think it was charge/discharge cycles over time. Something like 8-10 years, but as little as six. Short trips and poor driving habits (hard braking and accel). The base load is handled by the gas engine, the electric is used for power boost on highway and for slow speed/city traffic/starts. Gas cuts off at a stop, battery takes over for ultra slow speed travel until something like 6+mph. There is also a latent drain on the main lithium cells at rest. If the car is not taken for a ride regularly, it drains and reduces capacity and life span. Grandma had an early priapismo and it died quietly in the garage. It being a sunday driver less than a mile to church. clay So, like a diesel, one must use them hard. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride -- StopStart
Speaking of electrics and such, I noticed a coupla weeks ago sitting at a stop light next to a GLK that the motor was shutting off, then starting again when the car moved. The driver kept creeping forward so the car must have stopped and started 4 or 5 times while sitting there. That surprised me. Then last week I was at a light next to a new S and same thing, the engine stopped and started. With both cars it was very quick to start, barely a turn of the crank it seemed. Is this the new fuel-savings method Benz have implemented? Must be killer on the starter and battery. Wonder what those cost to replace? --R On 11/13/14 3:34 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote: I think it was charge/discharge cycles over time. Something like 8-10 years, but as little as six. Short trips and poor driving habits (hard braking and accel). The base load is handled by the gas engine, the electric is used for power boost on highway and for slow speed/city traffic/starts. Gas cuts off at a stop, battery takes over for ultra slow speed travel until something like 6+mph. There is also a latent drain on the main lithium cells at rest. If the car is not taken for a ride regularly, it drains and reduces capacity and life span. Grandma had an early priapismo and it died quietly in the garage. It being a sunday driver less than a mile to church. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride
Betcha see a lot more pickups in ND than prii Randy runs a pickup in the winter in Winnipeg. How reliable are Pruises when it's 40 below? On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride
ND is a wealthy state. Lots of bigger cars and SUVs in Grand Forks when we go there. No shortage of pickup trucks anywhere around here. Oddly, I do not see a lot of old ones. Not sure what happens to them. Rarely see 2WD versions either. RB On 13/11/2014 2:45 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: Betcha see a lot more pickups in ND than prii Randy runs a pickup in the winter in Winnipeg. How reliable are Pruises when it's 40 below? On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
Producing beer consumes about 20 times more water than fracking. We can argue about best use of water all day long. Tremors (very small earthquakes) are associated with re-injecting the contaminated water deep under ground, NOT with fracking. Changes in methods for dealing with the contaminated water solve that problem. Escaping methane gas is slightly more serious, depending on one's view if the whole global warming theory (I'm sure you know mine). Methane capture can be dealt with, the regulations need to be put in place vice throwing out the baby with the bath water. In short, your environmental lunch costs for fracking and natural gas power are far lower than coal... I never said it was free, just better. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Nov 13, 2014 3:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: Gas is better than coal, for sure, but fracking has environmental costs, such as enormous water use, potential groundwater contamination, waste disposal issues, and induced earthquakes. Furthermore, natural gas flaring and leaking of methane from wells and sloppy delivery systems dump tons of green house damaging gases into the atmosphere. There is no free lunch.. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] 300SDL radiator
My brother's SDL acquired a cracked hot side tank, and it appears that new ones are NLA, at least from any US source. Does anyone have one in functioning condition? I'm looking into whether or not it's possible to adapt a 300D radiator, as that one is still all over the place from a number of manufacturers, for some reason that escapes me (since there were far more W126s with the M603 than W124s). Thanks! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator
I found 10 or so on car-part.com usa search. My brother's SDL acquired a cracked hot side tank, and it appears that new ones are NLA, at least from any US source. Does anyone have one in functioning condition? I'm looking into whether or not it's possible to adapt a 300D radiator, as that one is still all over the place from a number of manufacturers, for some reason that escapes me (since there were far more W126s with the M603 than W124s). Thanks! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
Worse than coal plants? Worse than cell phone towers? Worse than strip mines? Sounds like NIMBY to me. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator
: mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2014 17:07:01 -0600 Subject: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator From: mercedes@okiebenz.com My brother's SDL acquired a cracked hot side tank, and it appears that new ones are NLA, at least from any US source. Does anyone have one in functioning condition? This is the part, yes? http://www.mbpartsworld.com/p/__/RADIATOR/7519344/1265005303.html It is $368 from here. https://www.getmercedesparts.com/oem-mercedes-parts.html Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator
This is the part, yes? http://www.mbpartsworld.com/p/__/RADIATOR/7519344/1265005303.html It is $368 from here. https://www.getmercedesparts.com/oem-mercedes-parts.html Rick My bad there are two part numbers. The SDL is 1265005303 It is $448 There is another part that appears possibly interchangable. It is 1265002703 It is $368 GetMercedesParts.com A dealer in Annapolis MD. 1-866-694-8186 Give them a call. It couldn't hurt. Rick 866-694-8186 Annapolis, MD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT: Oh Wilton...
You miss this weather, don't you...? http://www.upnorthlive.com/news/story.aspx?id=1121932#.VGVNMzhMHHw Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride
Where are you getting those numbers? I just found the base TDI Passat at $26,825 on www.vw.com. My SE with mandatory hole in the roof is listed as $28,840 now, about the same as I paid in 2012. On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Tim Crone via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: snip all base MSRP for 2015s off manufacturer web sites: TDI Passat: 33585 -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Craig's New Ride
The Jetta I tested in 2012 was listed around $23k. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
WHAT? MORE regulations? ;-) Some of those Tremors are cracking foundations and brick walls here (I'd say we are averaging 8 - 10 per day, though we're at 20 today). No, they are not bring down tall buildings (or even small ones) or bridges, but there is damage to private property, that the drillers (waste water pumpers) deny. On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Producing beer consumes about 20 times more water than fracking. We can argue about best use of water all day long. Tremors (very small earthquakes) are associated with re-injecting the contaminated water deep under ground, NOT with fracking. Changes in methods for dealing with the contaminated water solve that problem. Escaping methane gas is slightly more serious, depending on one's view if the whole global warming theory (I'm sure you know mine). Methane capture can be dealt with, the regulations need to be put in place vice throwing out the baby with the bath water. In short, your environmental lunch costs for fracking and natural gas power are far lower than coal... I never said it was free, just better. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Oh Wilton...
My son flew into Houghton, MI today. He says there is a fair amount of snow. The plane (commuter type) just barely stopped at the far end of the runway due to the slippery snow. On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: You miss this weather, don't you...? http://www.upnorthlive.com/news/story.aspx?id=1121932#.VGVNMzhMHHw Rick -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT: Oh Wilton... What happened to Christmas
You miss this weather, don't you...? http://www.upnorthlive.com/news/story.aspx?id=1121932#.VGVNMzhMHHw Rick I went to sleep and woke up in January! Here is the forecast for Rhinelander, WI, 40 mi S of the south border of the UP Thursday Night: Mostly to partly cloudy with flurries gradually coming to an end by sunrise. Temps: 8 to 12 Winds: West-northwest 3-8 mph Wind Chills: -5 to 5 Friday: Finally a break from the snow with more sunshine! Sunglasses alert! Temps: 22 to 24 Winds: West 5-10 mph Wind Chills: 15 to 20 Friday Night: Clearing out and frigid! Perhaps the first subzero night of the season for some areas! Temps: -2 to 4 Winds: Light Southwest Saturday: Sunshine to start the day with more clouds possible through the afternoon. Temps: 19 to 22 Winds: Southwest 5-10 mph Wind Chills: 10 to 15 JANUARY WEATHER! What happened to Christmas? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
Energy grids need to be dismantled. We gotta git ingenious about energy use and production. Not all of us need energy. Billions of planet dwellers have lived without energy - we can do that again and put ifone in its place. Think outside the box, not like the politically challenged. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
My son just spent two years doing that in Malawi - he does not recommend it as a way of life. Yes, it can be done in a benign climate, but no, it's not fun. Want a hot meal? Start by lighting the charcoal. Want a cup of coffee or tea? Start by lighting the charcoal . . . On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:25 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Energy grids need to be dismantled. We gotta git ingenious about energy use and production. Not all of us need energy. Billions of planet dwellers have lived without energy - we can do that again and put ifone in its place. Think outside the box, not like the politically challenged. mao -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
big blades whack a LOT of birds, Fresh meat. Or compost. Whatever it takes! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Oh Wilton...
Um-hmm; 'glad to be missing it, too! Wilton - Original Message - From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:33 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Oh Wilton... You miss this weather, don't you...? http://www.upnorthlive.com/news/story.aspx?id=1121932#.VGVNMzhMHHw Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator
Thanks guys. It appears that the part number is common between the W126 and W124, I'll check. I can get a rad for the W124 with no problem, Nissen or Behr if they are identical. Probably why there are no parts out there -- someone goofed and its only listed as a W124 part even though it has a W126 part number. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Onsite fabrication of taller wind turbines
Outdoor cats do a lot more damage to birds than windmills, I imagine... On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: big blades whack a LOT of birds, Fresh meat. Or compost. Whatever it takes! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator
Original Message From: Peter Frederick Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 10:20 PM To: Rick Knoble; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SDL radiator Thanks guys. It appears that the part number is common between the W126 and W124, I'll check. I can get a rad for the W124 with no problem, Nissen or Behr if they are identical. I don't think it will be available in the aftermarket for some reason. I tried the part number in a couple different sites, and drew a blank. Perhaps World-Pak doesn't carry it. I imagine you can negotiate a decent deal with the parts manager at the local dealer. PN 1265005303 Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
