Re: [MBZ] GL starter

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Replacing the 300 TD starter in my w123 wagon was also highly labor
intensive

On Sat, Dec 24, 2022, 5:55 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> These newer (and by newer most anything newer than 20yr) cars were not
> designed to be maintained economically.  Maybe as long as the warranty.
> Unlike 123s, 126s, even 124s and maybe 210s though those cars can be a
> pain too. I guess when bean counters took over from engineers things
> started going to hell
>
> --FT
>
> On 12/24/22 4:13 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> > I have been in the middle of replacing the starter on the wife’s GL320.
> It’s a swine if a job. No room at all to get to anything. Anyway finally
> got it out and it’s amazing how small and light weight it is. About half
> the side of a 617 starter. Anyway, here is a video testing the old one and
> new one for comparison.
> >
> > https://youtu.be/cFA5wqoaZkU
> >
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

So I am told. There was a really good NOVA on PBS recently about research on 
psychedelics that was very interesting and insightful that I highly recommend:

https://www.pbs.org/video/can-psychedelics-cure-lxqulz/

-D

On Dec 24, 2022, at 8:38 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

I know a guy who grows a variety of magic shrooms, purely as a hobby of course. 
I myself have not sampled any but I understand they are quite interesting

--FT
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On Dec 24, 2022, at 7:43 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

I’ll try this again with an attachment so people can see the image…”Magic 
blend"

-D

[cid:E6D9BC14-8679-4A75-8652-59D37FBF42CF]

On Dec 24, 2022, at 7:35 PM, dan 
penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

Better yet, pop into Oakland, CA where fungi are legal. Here’s a label off of 
one of the edibles:

[cid:D4CC4832-ACE1-4936-9A9D-6B36F5748FF6]

-D


On Dec 24, 2022, at 5:28 PM, Curt Raymond 
mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com>>
 wrote:

I do. A friend gave us some gummy things, they were interesting...

Curt

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On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 9:20 PM, dan 
penoff.com via Mercedes
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:
And who lives in a state where recreational use is legal???

-D

On Dec 23, 2022, at 9:15 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

Yeah…I absolutely remember how good music sounded while stoned.

AZBob, hit the weed hard in to ‘70s, haven’t imbibed since 1979.

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On Dec 23, 2022, at 6:41 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

Yes my memories of some of those listening sessions are somewhat hazy

--FT
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On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:53 PM, dan 
penoff.com via 
Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

Our minds were very “fuzzy” while listening to that system at the time. From 
what I can recall, that is.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I know a guy who grows a variety of magic shrooms, purely as a hobby of course. 
I myself have not sampled any but I understand they are quite interesting 

--FT
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> On Dec 24, 2022, at 7:43 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’ll try this again with an attachment so people can see the image…”Magic 
> blend"
> 
> -D
> 
> [cid:E6D9BC14-8679-4A75-8652-59D37FBF42CF]
> 
> On Dec 24, 2022, at 7:35 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> Better yet, pop into Oakland, CA where fungi are legal. Here’s a label off of 
> one of the edibles:
> 
> [cid:D4CC4832-ACE1-4936-9A9D-6B36F5748FF6]
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> On Dec 24, 2022, at 5:28 PM, Curt Raymond 
> mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com>>
>  wrote:
> 
> I do. A friend gave us some gummy things, they were interesting...
> 
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on 
> Android
> 
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 9:20 PM, dan 
> penoff.com via Mercedes
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>  wrote:
> And who lives in a state where recreational use is legal???
> 
> -D
> 
> On Dec 23, 2022, at 9:15 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>  wrote:
> 
> Yeah…I absolutely remember how good music sounded while stoned.
> 
> AZBob, hit the weed hard in to ‘70s, haven’t imbibed since 1979.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 23, 2022, at 6:41 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes my memories of some of those listening sessions are somewhat hazy
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:53 PM, dan 
> penoff.com via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>  wrote:
> 
> Our minds were very “fuzzy” while listening to that system at the time. From 
> what I can recall, that is.
> 
> -D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT it’s COLD this morning

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

-4 F here this evening in Winnipeg. We plan to fly to Ottawa on Boxing 
Day to visit our elder son and family. Looks like we will be able to do 
so. Vancouver and Toronto airports are cancelling flights as they battle 
snow and cold but Winnipeg and Ottawa look like they will be fine. My 
nephew and his wife were to fly to Hawaii via Vancouver yesterday but 
the whole trip got cancelled as they couldn't get to Vancouver. They 
will try again in March. She is a teacher so has to go when there is a 
break in classes.


Merry Christmas to you all!

Randy


On 12/24/2022 4:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

9F here this morning too.I was out chasing Bambi's folks before the sun was up. 
Actually had one teed up but the dang muzzleloader wouldn't go off. I had time 
enough to put on another cap and try again.It was wet Thursday afternoon when I 
hunted, I should have pulled the charge. Guess I'll do that a little later.
Sitting by the woodstove right now. The last push about killed me, the sun was 
going down as was the temp. I was fine until the wind came up...

Curt
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   On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 10:05 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:   Sorry. Shoveling sunshine at the southern manse with a low of 29F. A quick run to Wally World early this morning revealed throngs of former Northerners with thinned blood dressed like they were at one of the poles. Parkas, gloves, you name it. I always chuckle when I see this. If the temps drop below about 40F everyone here thinks they’re going to die from the cold, or so it seems.


It will be warmer at the western manse today than in Florida, or so it appears. 
Mid-50s in Flagstaff through the middle of next week, typical winter weather. 
Guess we chose poorly for our holiday gathering location.

No injuries, thankfully, but Mrs. Dan is not feeling well this morning from 
some stomach bug. I had some discomfort earlier in the week, it might be what I 
had. So now I’m designated head of festivities, which means everyone comes in, 
makes their own libations and rummages through the fridge for snacks until the 
beef tenderloin roast is served this evening. If you are hungry or thirsty it’s 
your own fault.

No car plans at present, but I did notice that I really need to wash the ML550. 
And the E320. Black cars really show the dirt.

-D


On Dec 24, 2022, at 9:51 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Five years and a week ago I broke my left ankle taking the trash out in the 
garage, thankfully it wasn’t this cold.

9F this morning with a strong breeze out of the West, I still haven’t tried to 
clear the drive.  As per usual, there is a drift at the end that’s too big to 
drive through, but I had zero interest in digging it out with blowing snow that 
would fill it back in as fast as I dug and a -20 wind chill.  I don’t need to 
go anywhere until late this afternoon, if then.

it was -8 yesterday norming.  House is snug except my bedroom (converted 
covered porch) but I have a big comforter my Mom got me 40 years ago so I slept 
well.  Cats stayed in the warm part of the house for some reason…

More snow and wind predicted on Sunday, so Christmas this year may be next 
weekend no need to battle snow to have dinner with the family.

Peter


On Dec 24, 2022, at 8:41 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

19F here which is very unusual. My heating systems are struggling and aren’t 
really keeping up so it is chilly in the manse. It was a two dog night because 
I only have two dogs.

Hahaha I just remembered too that 4yr ago today I woke up in the hospital after 
having my broken leg fixed the evening before. A casualty of Ultimate but that 
aspect of dumbassery has been relegated to the past.

Y’all stay warm and enjoy the holiday weekend, Christmas, Festivus, Kwaanzaa, 
Hanukkah, Solstice, Saturnalia, or whatever you celebrate. I don’t think I’m 
going to be working on any cars today but will be studying more how to get this 
M137 cam position sensor replaced later in the week when it warms up again.

—FT

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Re: [MBZ] Quick Flip For Dan

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

worth a look for sure.  Take 5 of your friends named Ben along

--FT

On 12/24/22 6:07 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-1987-mercedes-benz-diesel/7571584512.html


Rick
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[MBZ] Quick Flip For Dan

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-1987-mercedes-benz-diesel/7571584512.html


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Re: [MBZ] GL starter

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

These newer (and by newer most anything newer than 20yr) cars were not 
designed to be maintained economically.  Maybe as long as the warranty.  
Unlike 123s, 126s, even 124s and maybe 210s though those cars can be a 
pain too. I guess when bean counters took over from engineers things 
started going to hell


--FT

On 12/24/22 4:13 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I have been in the middle of replacing the starter on the wife’s GL320. It’s a 
swine if a job. No room at all to get to anything. Anyway finally got it out 
and it’s amazing how small and light weight it is. About half the side of a 617 
starter. Anyway, here is a video testing the old one and new one for comparison.

https://youtu.be/cFA5wqoaZkU

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Re: [MBZ] OT it’s COLD this morning

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

9F here this morning too.I was out chasing Bambi's folks before the sun was up. 
Actually had one teed up but the dang muzzleloader wouldn't go off. I had time 
enough to put on another cap and try again.It was wet Thursday afternoon when I 
hunted, I should have pulled the charge. Guess I'll do that a little later.
Sitting by the woodstove right now. The last push about killed me, the sun was 
going down as was the temp. I was fine until the wind came up...

Curt
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  On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 10:05 AM, dan penoff.com via 
Mercedes wrote:   Sorry. Shoveling sunshine at the 
southern manse with a low of 29F. A quick run to Wally World early this morning 
revealed throngs of former Northerners with thinned blood dressed like they 
were at one of the poles. Parkas, gloves, you name it. I always chuckle when I 
see this. If the temps drop below about 40F everyone here thinks they’re going 
to die from the cold, or so it seems.

It will be warmer at the western manse today than in Florida, or so it appears. 
Mid-50s in Flagstaff through the middle of next week, typical winter weather. 
Guess we chose poorly for our holiday gathering location.

No injuries, thankfully, but Mrs. Dan is not feeling well this morning from 
some stomach bug. I had some discomfort earlier in the week, it might be what I 
had. So now I’m designated head of festivities, which means everyone comes in, 
makes their own libations and rummages through the fridge for snacks until the 
beef tenderloin roast is served this evening. If you are hungry or thirsty it’s 
your own fault.

No car plans at present, but I did notice that I really need to wash the ML550. 
And the E320. Black cars really show the dirt.

-D

> On Dec 24, 2022, at 9:51 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Five years and a week ago I broke my left ankle taking the trash out in the 
> garage, thankfully it wasn’t this cold.
> 
> 9F this morning with a strong breeze out of the West, I still haven’t tried 
> to clear the drive.  As per usual, there is a drift at the end that’s too big 
> to drive through, but I had zero interest in digging it out with blowing snow 
> that would fill it back in as fast as I dug and a -20 wind chill.  I don’t 
> need to go anywhere until late this afternoon, if then.
> 
> it was -8 yesterday norming.  House is snug except my bedroom (converted 
> covered porch) but I have a big comforter my Mom got me 40 years ago so I 
> slept well.  Cats stayed in the warm part of the house for some reason…
> 
> More snow and wind predicted on Sunday, so Christmas this year may be next 
> weekend no need to battle snow to have dinner with the family.
> 
> Peter
> 
>> On Dec 24, 2022, at 8:41 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 19F here which is very unusual. My heating systems are struggling and aren’t 
>> really keeping up so it is chilly in the manse. It was a two dog night 
>> because I only have two dogs. 
>> 
>> Hahaha I just remembered too that 4yr ago today I woke up in the hospital 
>> after having my broken leg fixed the evening before. A casualty of Ultimate 
>> but that aspect of dumbassery has been relegated to the past. 
>> 
>> Y’all stay warm and enjoy the holiday weekend, Christmas, Festivus, 
>> Kwaanzaa, Hanukkah, Solstice, Saturnalia, or whatever you celebrate. I don’t 
>> think I’m going to be working on any cars today but will be studying more 
>> how to get this M137 cam position sensor replaced later in the week when it 
>> warms up again. 
>> 
>> —FT
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I do. A friend gave us some gummy things, they were interesting...
Curt

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  On Fri, Dec 23, 2022 at 9:20 PM, dan penoff.com via 
Mercedes wrote:   And who lives in a state where 
recreational use is legal???

-D

> On Dec 23, 2022, at 9:15 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah…I absolutely remember how good music sounded while stoned. 
> 
> AZBob, hit the weed hard in to ‘70s, haven’t imbibed since 1979.  
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 6:41 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes my memories of some of those listening sessions are somewhat hazy
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
>>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:53 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Our minds were very “fuzzy” while listening to that system at the time. 
>>> From what I can recall, that is.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:45 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 I think that’s the one he had although my memory might be getting 
 suggested by that listing 
 
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>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:31 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> Best friend in high school had a dad who was a very successful law 
> practice. Their house had the requisite “conversation pit’ of the time. 
> He had a Pioneer quad system professionally installed around the “pit”.
> 
> He lived close to school so we would often go over there at lunch and 
> listed to the few things that were released in quad, the one I can recall 
> was “Victim of Love” by the Eagles.
> 
> It was a bit of a gimmick. Sounded cool, but I don’t think it was 
> practical.
> 
> On a related note, I saw a quadrophonic Pioneer receiver on FBM today, 
> the one that had the “oscilloscope” display to “tune” the system.
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/640855280582333/
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> A buddy in my dorm had some money I think in a trust after his dad died, 
>> and he was in the Natural Guard too so made some $$ from that. He was 
>> always upgrading his hifi system. 
>> 
>> Quadrophonic came out and he bought a system. Some huge receiver putting 
>> out a couple hundred watts, a quad turntable, and 4 Heil Air Motion 
>> Transformer speakers which were pretty huge. All this in like a 10x12 
>> dorm room.
>> 
>> The speakers were truncated pyramids with the woofer in the bottom then 
>> this vertical omnidirectional speaker in the top. 
>> 
>> It was “surround” sound at the time and certain albums were remastered 
>> for the four channel aspect. It sounded really cool but after awhile was 
>> kinda tedious. The room was too small to really get the full effect but 
>> he got married and moved into a campus apartment that had a larger 
>> living room and it was marginally better. 
>> 
>> I think the fad passed but he hung onto the system for quite some time. 
>> There were never too many quad recordings but it played stereo quite 
>> well and there was some “simulate” setting. 
>> 
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[MBZ] GL starter

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I have been in the middle of replacing the starter on the wife’s GL320. It’s a 
swine if a job. No room at all to get to anything. Anyway finally got it out 
and it’s amazing how small and light weight it is. About half the side of a 617 
starter. Anyway, here is a video testing the old one and new one for 
comparison. 

https://youtu.be/cFA5wqoaZkU

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Re: [MBZ] Cold on tybee island

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Pretty cold for a place that has palm trees!

I was very briefly on Tybee Island over Thanksgiving, we drove out from 
Savannah on Friday in the rain.  Didn’t see much, lol, but it was fun.

Stay warm — up to 19F today with 20 mph wind, so the drive is still full of 
snow.  Tomorrow I’ll dig it out, it may get up to freezing.

Peter

> On Dec 24, 2022, at 1:04 PM, RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Folks
> 
> It’s cold here …. I think the temp went down to about 25 last night …. We saw 
> 17f about 20 years ago and I know it has not gone below freezing since before 
> 2016!
> 
> The 2018 heat pump is even trying with heat strip$ and the interior temp is 
> about 55
> 
> No fun
> 
> The water seems to be frozen.  I have the house next door which is on the 
> ground but has no heat right now …
> Pipes are all PEX over there ….I haven’t tried that water.
> 
> My spaceship 🚀 motor home is running its heat pump and I think it’s warmer 
> out there. Haven’t tried the Motor home water
> 
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> it’s colder now on tybee  than it is in Kiev!
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Re: [MBZ] I pulled parts off this car for the 09S550 I am (slowly) fixing up

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Carrie Underwood's husband?
https://youtu.be/WaSy8yy-mr8

On 2022-12-24 12:38, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

It was a beautiful car, designo brown with a dark brown interior,
looks like a pissed-off girlfriend, ho, or rival gang member got upset
at the owner and took a razor knife to the interior and hammer to the
glass

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Re: [MBZ] Crack rabbit

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On 2022-12-24 13:24, Robert Massmann via Mercedes wrote:
Was looking for an 81 Rabbit to fix my 81 Rabbit pickup with a rusted 
out
shock tower, but may not be worth the effort. I have a second truck an 
82

but have a dilemma of cutting up one to fix the other?


Ask your local body shop if they can order you a new shock tower. But 
they might be out of production.


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Re: [MBZ] OT it’s COLD this morning

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

I should have mentioned that the temp had risen 9 degrees in an hour with the 
help of the living room propane fireplace. The heat pump is still working well.


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> On Dec 24, 2022, at 12:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The coldest spot has to be in Winterpeg but Randy began hibernating last
> Monday so I don't expect him to post his shocking centigrade numbers.
> 
> 10 degrees F. here in the DMV this AM but not likely to break 20.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 12:10 PM mitch--- via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2022-12-24 11:55, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I reset the breaker, and after a
>>> couple minutes, the heat pump fired up. nearly an hour has passed, and
>>> the inside temp has risen to 60F! The heating systems in this house
>>> aren’t quite enough to deal with this bitterly cold weather.
>> 
>> If you can gain ten degrees in an hour, it's way more than enough to
>> keep up in this weather.
>> At zero degrees, my furnace runs about 55% of the time to keep up, which
>> means it's plenty oversized.
>> I gain about two degrees an hour at this temp.
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Re: [MBZ] I pulled parts off this car for the 09S550 I am (slowly) fixing up

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I think your offer was anything but insulting. Maybe extravagant.

On Sat, Dec 24, 2022, 1:10 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> I was wanting a transmission off that car or some other one he has and
> got in touch with him a coupla weeks ago,  He said he wanted to get rid
> of this car, so I asked how much.  He wouldn't tell me, wanted me to
> make an offer.  So I told him I really didn't need a whole car just the
> trans but he was adamant I make an offer.  I told him I didn't want to
> insult him but he said to go ahead, so I offered $800 as again I didn't
> need a whole car to fool with, and you can get an engine/trans for that
> or less at LKQ, the rest of the stuff is a pain.  That insulted him and
> he got upset as he figured the car and parts were worth a whole lot
> more.  Oh well.
>
> It's worth whatever someone will pay for it.  He was expecting some good
> money for the wheels but has made no effort to pull them or sell them
> separate or whatever so I don't know.  He's a nice guy but just kind of
> a curmudgeon and lazy it seems.
>
> -_FT
>
> On 12/24/22 12:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> > Wow.  How do you appraise such a wreck?
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 12:38 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> > It was a beautiful car, designo brown with a dark brown interior,
> > looks
> > like a pissed-off girlfriend, ho, or rival gang member got upset
> > at the
> > owner and took a razor knife to the interior and hammer to the glass
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3543928479216184
> >
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Re: [MBZ] car is priced so low because it will need a new motor!!! 2009 Mercedes-Benz cl-class, $5, 000

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

It's known as dead end technology.

On Sat, Dec 24, 2022, 1:01 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> The windows on the coupé drop down when the doors are opened to allow
> the glass to clear the seals.  If they get unsynchronized, or the
> battery is bad, or no key, they won't go back up when the doors are
> closed.  Easy enough to reset but needs a key and power.  That car
> probably has neither at this point.
>
> --FT
>
> On 12/24/22 12:48 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> > Love the color.  I bet little rain got into the car.  We left our rear
> > hatch open on the GLK 250 overnight during a torrential storm and not
> > a drop of rain got past the sill.
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 12:34 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> > looks like it is parked at the auto auction lot
> >
> > Car has a custom flip flop wrap that changes color in the Sun and the
> > windows are down in the rain
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/687569639408449
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Cold on tybee island

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Fun fact. Thanks for sharing

On Sat, Dec 24, 2022, 2:04 PM RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Folks
>
> It’s cold here …. I think the temp went down to about 25 last night …. We
> saw 17f about 20 years ago and I know it has not gone below freezing since
> before 2016!
>
> The 2018 heat pump is even trying with heat strip$ and the interior temp
> is about 55
>
> No fun
>
> The water seems to be frozen.  I have the house next door which is on the
> ground but has no heat right now …
>  Pipes are all PEX over there ….I haven’t tried that water.
>
> My spaceship 🚀 motor home is running its heat pump and I think it’s
> warmer out there. Haven’t tried the Motor home water
>
> My daughter who is married to a Ukrainian and lives in California said
> that it’s colder now on tybee  than it is in Kiev!
>
> Stay warm people
>
> Xx rick hawkins
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[MBZ] Cold on tybee island

[RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes]

Folks

It’s cold here …. I think the temp went down to about 25 last night …. We saw 
17f about 20 years ago and I know it has not gone below freezing since before 
2016!

The 2018 heat pump is even trying with heat strip$ and the interior temp is 
about 55

No fun

The water seems to be frozen.  I have the house next door which is on the 
ground but has no heat right now …
 Pipes are all PEX over there ….I haven’t tried that water.

My spaceship 🚀 motor home is running its heat pump and I think it’s warmer out 
there. Haven’t tried the Motor home water

My daughter who is married to a Ukrainian and lives in California said that 
it’s colder now on tybee  than it is in Kiev!

Stay warm people

Xx rick hawkins

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Re: [MBZ] Crack rabbit

[Robert Massmann via Mercedes]

Was looking for an 81 Rabbit to fix my 81 Rabbit pickup with a rusted out
shock tower, but may not be worth the effort. I have a second truck an 82
but have a dilemma of cutting up one to fix the other?

Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT
2002 BMW 525i
Oregonia, Ohio

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Re: [MBZ] I pulled parts off this car for the 09S550 I am (slowly) fixing up

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I was wanting a transmission off that car or some other one he has and 
got in touch with him a coupla weeks ago,  He said he wanted to get rid 
of this car, so I asked how much.  He wouldn't tell me, wanted me to 
make an offer.  So I told him I really didn't need a whole car just the 
trans but he was adamant I make an offer.  I told him I didn't want to 
insult him but he said to go ahead, so I offered $800 as again I didn't 
need a whole car to fool with, and you can get an engine/trans for that 
or less at LKQ, the rest of the stuff is a pain.  That insulted him and 
he got upset as he figured the car and parts were worth a whole lot 
more.  Oh well.


It's worth whatever someone will pay for it.  He was expecting some good 
money for the wheels but has made no effort to pull them or sell them 
separate or whatever so I don't know.  He's a nice guy but just kind of 
a curmudgeon and lazy it seems.


-_FT

On 12/24/22 12:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Wow.  How do you appraise such a wreck?

On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 12:38 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:


It was a beautiful car, designo brown with a dark brown interior,
looks
like a pissed-off girlfriend, ho, or rival gang member got upset
at the
owner and took a razor knife to the interior and hammer to the glass

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3543928479216184

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Re: [MBZ] car is priced so low because it will need a new motor!!! 2009 Mercedes-Benz cl-class, $5, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

The windows on the coupé drop down when the doors are opened to allow 
the glass to clear the seals.  If they get unsynchronized, or the 
battery is bad, or no key, they won't go back up when the doors are 
closed.  Easy enough to reset but needs a key and power.  That car 
probably has neither at this point.


--FT

On 12/24/22 12:48 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
Love the color.  I bet little rain got into the car.  We left our rear 
hatch open on the GLK 250 overnight during a torrential storm and not 
a drop of rain got past the sill.


On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 12:34 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:


looks like it is parked at the auto auction lot

Car has a custom flip flop wrap that changes color in the Sun and the
windows are down in the rain

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/687569639408449

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Re: [MBZ] car is priced so low because it will need a new motor!!! 2009 Mercedes-Benz cl-class, $5, 000

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Love the color.  I bet little rain got into the car.  We left our rear
hatch open on the GLK 250 overnight during a torrential storm and not a
drop of rain got past the sill.

On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 12:34 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> looks like it is parked at the auto auction lot
>
> Car has a custom flip flop wrap that changes color in the Sun and the
> windows are down in the rain
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/687569639408449
>
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Re: [MBZ] I pulled parts off this car for the 09S550 I am (slowly) fixing up

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Wow.  How do you appraise such a wreck?

On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 12:38 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It was a beautiful car, designo brown with a dark brown interior, looks
> like a pissed-off girlfriend, ho, or rival gang member got upset at the
> owner and took a razor knife to the interior and hammer to the glass
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3543928479216184
>
> --
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Re: [MBZ] No offers will be considered 1964 Mercedes-Benz 230sl pagoda, $35, 000

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Maybe $10K and it's worth the trouble.  The pleather steering wheel cover
is worth at least $1.99.

On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 12:15 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Buy my turd
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/677548240728799
>
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Re: [MBZ] Crack hauler

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Seems like a fair price.  Why so negative?

On Sat, Dec 24, 2022 at 12:04 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Looks good for the years and miles but not $5k good
>
> --FT
>
> On 12/24/22 11:14 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >
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[MBZ] I pulled parts off this car for the 09S550 I am (slowly) fixing up

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It was a beautiful car, designo brown with a dark brown interior, looks 
like a pissed-off girlfriend, ho, or rival gang member got upset at the 
owner and took a razor knife to the interior and hammer to the glass


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[MBZ] car is priced so low because it will need a new motor!!! 2009 Mercedes-Benz cl-class, $5, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

looks like it is parked at the auto auction lot

Car has a custom flip flop wrap that changes color in the Sun and the 
windows are down in the rain


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Re: [MBZ] OT it’s COLD this morning

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The coldest spot has to be in Winterpeg but Randy began hibernating last
Monday so I don't expect him to post his shocking centigrade numbers.

10 degrees F. here in the DMV this AM but not likely to break 20.



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> On 2022-12-24 11:55, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:
> > I reset the breaker, and after a
> > couple minutes, the heat pump fired up. nearly an hour has passed, and
> > the inside temp has risen to 60F! The heating systems in this house
> > aren’t quite enough to deal with this bitterly cold weather.
>
> If you can gain ten degrees in an hour, it's way more than enough to
> keep up in this weather.
> At zero degrees, my furnace runs about 55% of the time to keep up, which
> means it's plenty oversized.
> I gain about two degrees an hour at this temp.
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[MBZ] No offers will be considered 1964 Mercedes-Benz 230sl pagoda, $35, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Buy my turd

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Re: [MBZ] OT it’s COLD this morning

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

On 2022-12-24 11:55, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:

I reset the breaker, and after a
couple minutes, the heat pump fired up. nearly an hour has passed, and
the inside temp has risen to 60F! The heating systems in this house
aren’t quite enough to deal with this bitterly cold weather.


If you can gain ten degrees in an hour, it's way more than enough to 
keep up in this weather.
At zero degrees, my furnace runs about 55% of the time to keep up, which 
means it's plenty oversized.

I gain about two degrees an hour at this temp.

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Re: [MBZ] Crack hauler

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Looks good for the years and miles but not $5k good

--FT

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Re: [MBZ] OT it’s COLD this morning

[OK Don via Mercedes]

The lowest we've recorded this week is 2°F. The geothermal unit is keeping
us nice and warm, it is cycling so it is not at capacity. I have the
cut-off board pulled for the aux heat strips - so they are not in play. We
keep the house at 73 in the day and 68 at night. We are very happy with
this unit.
We are totally electric except the gas grill which now is fed by a 500
gallon propane tank. Our highest electric bill this year was for September,
and was $280. My wife runs two indoor beds where she grows mixed salad
greens - the grow lights are on 15 hours a day, year round.

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> Right now it is finally up to 11. Supposed to get up to 25 today. Most of
> the day Thursday and all night it was anywhere from -1 to 2. Yesterday it
> was around 8 all day. We have a heat pump for heat and it actually did just
> fine maintaining 68-69 inside (programmable thermostat). Electric aux heat
> would kick on from time to time. I can’t say how long total it ran on aux
> heat but it was not constant.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 24, 2022, at 8:42 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > 19F here which is very unusual. My heating systems are struggling and
> aren’t really keeping up so it is chilly in the manse. It was a two dog
> night because I only have two dogs.
> >
> > Hahaha I just remembered too that 4yr ago today I woke up in the
> hospital after having my broken leg fixed the evening before. A casualty of
> Ultimate but that aspect of dumbassery has been relegated to the past.
> >
> > Y’all stay warm and enjoy the holiday weekend, Christmas, Festivus,
> Kwaanzaa, Hanukkah, Solstice, Saturnalia, or whatever you celebrate. I
> don’t think I’m going to be working on any cars today but will be studying
> more how to get this M137 cam position sensor replaced later in the week
> when it warms up again.
> >
> > —FT
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT it’s COLD this morning

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

Here in Lexington, NC, we woke up to an ice cold 50 degree house. It got down 
to 7F last night, and at some point in the night, our heat shut off. Our 
hard-wired Ecobee 4 t-stat had no power, so my first thought was a tripped 
breaker. After a trip out to the cold 38F garage, my suspicion was confirmed. I 
reset the breaker, and after a couple minutes, the heat pump fired up. nearly 
an hour has passed, and the inside temp has risen to 60F! The heating systems 
in this house aren’t quite enough to deal with this bitterly cold weather. We 
have a dual zone Trane system with dual heat pumps, one for each level. 
Luckily, the upstairs zone was still working. The cold has also exposed the low 
quality vinyl double pane windows since cold air comes in around the side and 
top seals. I’m hoping there’s a way that the seals can be replaced, or it could 
be that the cold weather has shrunken the seals. The house is only a year old.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 24, 2022, at 11:03 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’ve got no complaints about their service, for sure, but I would agree with 
> you on this from what I’ve experienced.
> 
> I told my son that I can’t believe all the notices I’m getting for using “too 
> much” electricity and that I’m wondering if they’ll come by to see if we’re 
> running a grow operation. He calmed my concerns when he told me a buddy of 
> his runs a grow operating at his house in CO and his electric bill equals his 
> mortgage payment.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 24, 2022, at 10:52 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> As a utility, APS does everything well…except when it comes to dealing with 
>> customers. 
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Dec 24, 2022, at 8:39 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I started us out on the off-peak plan because the youngster often works 
>>> second shift. That changes every 3 months, so it’s a wash, or used to be. 
>>> With his girlfriend living there now the usage is a bit more like 
>>> conventional hours, so I need to look into changing the plan. The thing 
>>> that chaps my *ss is that they talk about all these plans they have but 
>>> there’s no way to compare your existing bill/plan to one of the others. You 
>>> would think they gather enough information they could do this, but they 
>>> don’t. At least not on paper or the web site.
>>> 
>>> I need to just give them a call.
>>> 
>>> Oh, and because of the mini-splits kicking the consumption up they’re 
>>> sending me nastygrams about how a typical house like mine should be using a 
>>> lot less energy. Really?
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Dec 24, 2022, at 10:30 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 I will not chime in because our weather is too perfect. 
 My gas bill (H2O, furnace) does double this time of year (up to a 
 staggering $58 a month), but I’ve dialed in APS and I’m on the $162 a 
 month every month plan. 
 I need a Mercedes and a house. 
 
 AZBob
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Dec 24, 2022, at 8:25 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> My gas bill at the Flagstaff house is laughable. I don’t know why, but 
> I’m not complaining. Gas furnace, range, demand hot water heater, dryer. 
> Last month it was $82. That’s with 2-1/2 adults (the person living in the 
> casita uses the dryer, but heat is a mini-split.)
> 
> The electric bill is another story, however. Since the mini-splits have 
> been added it has approached the $200 mark. I’m not sure I’m on a good 
> rate plan, though, either. APS has a bunch of different ones, and they 
> don’t do a good job allowing you to compare. It’s something I’ve been 
> looking into.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 24, 2022, at 10:20 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> In typically winter weather here I don’t recall seeing a bill over 300 
>> in one month during the coldest part of the year. It has seemed cheaper 
>> to me with a heat pump versus a regular AC and gas furnace. I would hate 
>> to see a gas bill in the winter now with natural gas prices way up like 
>> they are. I’m a big fan of heat pumps. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Dec 24, 2022, at 9:10 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I meant to mention that the mini-splits I had installed at the 
>>> Flagstaff house are rated at above 90% efficiency down to -4F. We had 
>>> single digit temps there last week, so I checked in to make sure all 
>>> was well and everyone reported they were working fine and making plenty 
>>> of heat.
>>> 
>>> Can’t wait to see my electric bill.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Dec 24, 2022, at 10:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Right now it is finally up to 11. Supposed to get up to 25 today. Most 
 of the day 

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Re: [MBZ] OT it’s COLD this morning

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

And to you too. Stay warm.

On Sat, Dec 24, 2022, 9:42 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 19F here which is very unusual. My heating systems are struggling and
> aren’t really keeping up so it is chilly in the manse. It was a two dog
> night because I only have two dogs.
>
> Hahaha I just remembered too that 4yr ago today I woke up in the hospital
> after having my broken leg fixed the evening before. A casualty of Ultimate
> but that aspect of dumbassery has been relegated to the past.
>
> Y’all stay warm and enjoy the holiday weekend, Christmas, Festivus,
> Kwaanzaa, Hanukkah, Solstice, Saturnalia, or whatever you celebrate. I
> don’t think I’m going to be working on any cars today but will be studying
> more how to get this M137 cam position sensor replaced later in the week
> when it warms up again.
>
> —FT
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT it’s COLD this morning

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I’ve got no complaints about their service, for sure, but I would agree with 
you on this from what I’ve experienced.

I told my son that I can’t believe all the notices I’m getting for using “too 
much” electricity and that I’m wondering if they’ll come by to see if we’re 
running a grow operation. He calmed my concerns when he told me a buddy of his 
runs a grow operating at his house in CO and his electric bill equals his 
mortgage payment.

-D

> On Dec 24, 2022, at 10:52 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> As a utility, APS does everything well…except when it comes to dealing with 
> customers. 
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 24, 2022, at 8:39 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I started us out on the off-peak plan because the youngster often works 
>> second shift. That changes every 3 months, so it’s a wash, or used to be. 
>> With his girlfriend living there now the usage is a bit more like 
>> conventional hours, so I need to look into changing the plan. The thing that 
>> chaps my *ss is that they talk about all these plans they have but there’s 
>> no way to compare your existing bill/plan to one of the others. You would 
>> think they gather enough information they could do this, but they don’t. At 
>> least not on paper or the web site.
>> 
>> I need to just give them a call.
>> 
>> Oh, and because of the mini-splits kicking the consumption up they’re 
>> sending me nastygrams about how a typical house like mine should be using a 
>> lot less energy. Really?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Dec 24, 2022, at 10:30 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I will not chime in because our weather is too perfect. 
>>> My gas bill (H2O, furnace) does double this time of year (up to a 
>>> staggering $58 a month), but I’ve dialed in APS and I’m on the $162 a month 
>>> every month plan. 
>>> I need a Mercedes and a house. 
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Dec 24, 2022, at 8:25 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 My gas bill at the Flagstaff house is laughable. I don’t know why, but 
 I’m not complaining. Gas furnace, range, demand hot water heater, dryer. 
 Last month it was $82. That’s with 2-1/2 adults (the person living in the 
 casita uses the dryer, but heat is a mini-split.)
 
 The electric bill is another story, however. Since the mini-splits have 
 been added it has approached the $200 mark. I’m not sure I’m on a good 
 rate plan, though, either. APS has a bunch of different ones, and they 
 don’t do a good job allowing you to compare. It’s something I’ve been 
 looking into.
 
 -D
 
> On Dec 24, 2022, at 10:20 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> In typically winter weather here I don’t recall seeing a bill over 300 in 
> one month during the coldest part of the year. It has seemed cheaper to 
> me with a heat pump versus a regular AC and gas furnace. I would hate to 
> see a gas bill in the winter now with natural gas prices way up like they 
> are. I’m a big fan of heat pumps. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Dec 24, 2022, at 9:10 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I meant to mention that the mini-splits I had installed at the 
>> Flagstaff house are rated at above 90% efficiency down to -4F. We had 
>> single digit temps there last week, so I checked in to make sure all was 
>> well and everyone reported they were working fine and making plenty of 
>> heat.
>> 
>> Can’t wait to see my electric bill.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Dec 24, 2022, at 10:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Right now it is finally up to 11. Supposed to get up to 25 today. Most 
>>> of the day Thursday and all night it was anywhere from -1 to 2. 
>>> Yesterday it was around 8 all day. We have a heat pump for heat and it 
>>> actually did just fine maintaining 68-69 inside (programmable 
>>> thermostat). Electric aux heat would kick on from time to time. I can’t 
>>> say how long total it ran on aux heat but it was not constant. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Dec 24, 2022, at 8:42 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 19F here which is very unusual. My heating systems are struggling and 
 aren’t really keeping up so it is chilly in the manse. It was a two 
 dog night because I only have two dogs. 
 
 Hahaha I just remembered too that 4yr ago today I woke up in the 
 hospital after having my broken leg fixed the evening before. A 
 casualty of Ultimate but that aspect of dumbassery has been relegated 
 to the past. 
 
 Y’all stay warm and enjoy the holiday weekend, Christmas, Festivus, 
 Kwaanzaa, Hanukkah, Solstice, Saturnalia, or whatever you celebrate. I 
>>

Re: [MBZ] OT it’s COLD this morning

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

As a utility, APS does everything well…except when it comes to dealing with 
customers. 

AZBob

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> On Dec 24, 2022, at 8:39 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I started us out on the off-peak plan because the youngster often works 
> second shift. That changes every 3 months, so it’s a wash, or used to be. 
> With his girlfriend living there now the usage is a bit more like 
> conventional hours, so I need to look into changing the plan. The thing that 
> chaps my *ss is that they talk about all these plans they have but there’s no 
> way to compare your existing bill/plan to one of the others. You would think 
> they gather enough information they could do this, but they don’t. At least 
> not on paper or the web site.
> 
> I need to just give them a call.
> 
> Oh, and because of the mini-splits kicking the consumption up they’re sending 
> me nastygrams about how a typical house like mine should be using a lot less 
> energy. Really?
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 24, 2022, at 10:30 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I will not chime in because our weather is too perfect. 
>> My gas bill (H2O, furnace) does double this time of year (up to a staggering 
>> $58 a month), but I’ve dialed in APS and I’m on the $162 a month every month 
>> plan. 
>> I need a Mercedes and a house. 
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Dec 24, 2022, at 8:25 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My gas bill at the Flagstaff house is laughable. I don’t know why, but I’m 
>>> not complaining. Gas furnace, range, demand hot water heater, dryer. Last 
>>> month it was $82. That’s with 2-1/2 adults (the person living in the casita 
>>> uses the dryer, but heat is a mini-split.)
>>> 
>>> The electric bill is another story, however. Since the mini-splits have 
>>> been added it has approached the $200 mark. I’m not sure I’m on a good rate 
>>> plan, though, either. APS has a bunch of different ones, and they don’t do 
>>> a good job allowing you to compare. It’s something I’ve been looking into.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Dec 24, 2022, at 10:20 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 In typically winter weather here I don’t recall seeing a bill over 300 in 
 one month during the coldest part of the year. It has seemed cheaper to me 
 with a heat pump versus a regular AC and gas furnace. I would hate to see 
 a gas bill in the winter now with natural gas prices way up like they are. 
 I’m a big fan of heat pumps. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Dec 24, 2022, at 9:10 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> I meant to mention that the mini-splits I had installed at the Flagstaff 
> house are rated at above 90% efficiency down to -4F. We had single digit 
> temps there last week, so I checked in to make sure all was well and 
> everyone reported they were working fine and making plenty of heat.
> 
> Can’t wait to see my electric bill.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 24, 2022, at 10:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Right now it is finally up to 11. Supposed to get up to 25 today. Most 
>> of the day Thursday and all night it was anywhere from -1 to 2. 
>> Yesterday it was around 8 all day. We have a heat pump for heat and it 
>> actually did just fine maintaining 68-69 inside (programmable 
>> thermostat). Electric aux heat would kick on from time to time. I can’t 
>> say how long total it ran on aux heat but it was not constant. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Dec 24, 2022, at 8:42 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 19F here which is very unusual. My heating systems are struggling and 
>>> aren’t really keeping up so it is chilly in the manse. It was a two dog 
>>> night because I only have two dogs. 
>>> 
>>> Hahaha I just remembered too that 4yr ago today I woke up in the 
>>> hospital after having my broken leg fixed the evening before. A 
>>> casualty of Ultimate but that aspect of dumbassery has been relegated 
>>> to the past. 
>>> 
>>> Y’all stay warm and enjoy the holiday weekend, Christmas, Festivus, 
>>> Kwaanzaa, Hanukkah, Solstice, Saturnalia, or whatever you celebrate. I 
>>> don’t think I’m going to be working on any cars today but will be 
>>> studying more how to get this M137 cam position sensor replaced later 
>>> in the week when it warms up again. 
>>> 
>>> —FT
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT it’s COLD this morning

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I started us out on the off-peak plan because the youngster often works second 
shift. That changes every 3 months, so it’s a wash, or used to be. With his 
girlfriend living there now the usage is a bit more like conventional hours, so 
I need to look into changing the plan. The thing that chaps my *ss is that they 
talk about all these plans they have but there’s no way to compare your 
existing bill/plan to one of the others. You would think they gather enough 
information they could do this, but they don’t. At least not on paper or the 
web site.

I need to just give them a call.

Oh, and because of the mini-splits kicking the consumption up they’re sending 
me nastygrams about how a typical house like mine should be using a lot less 
energy. Really?

-D

> On Dec 24, 2022, at 10:30 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I will not chime in because our weather is too perfect. 
> My gas bill (H2O, furnace) does double this time of year (up to a staggering 
> $58 a month), but I’ve dialed in APS and I’m on the $162 a month every month 
> plan. 
> I need a Mercedes and a house. 
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 24, 2022, at 8:25 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> My gas bill at the Flagstaff house is laughable. I don’t know why, but I’m 
>> not complaining. Gas furnace, range, demand hot water heater, dryer. Last 
>> month it was $82. That’s with 2-1/2 adults (the person living in the casita 
>> uses the dryer, but heat is a mini-split.)
>> 
>> The electric bill is another story, however. Since the mini-splits have been 
>> added it has approached the $200 mark. I’m not sure I’m on a good rate plan, 
>> though, either. APS has a bunch of different ones, and they don’t do a good 
>> job allowing you to compare. It’s something I’ve been looking into.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Dec 24, 2022, at 10:20 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> In typically winter weather here I don’t recall seeing a bill over 300 in 
>>> one month during the coldest part of the year. It has seemed cheaper to me 
>>> with a heat pump versus a regular AC and gas furnace. I would hate to see a 
>>> gas bill in the winter now with natural gas prices way up like they are. 
>>> I’m a big fan of heat pumps. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Dec 24, 2022, at 9:10 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 I meant to mention that the mini-splits I had installed at the Flagstaff 
 house are rated at above 90% efficiency down to -4F. We had single digit 
 temps there last week, so I checked in to make sure all was well and 
 everyone reported they were working fine and making plenty of heat.
 
 Can’t wait to see my electric bill.
 
 -D
 
> On Dec 24, 2022, at 10:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Right now it is finally up to 11. Supposed to get up to 25 today. Most of 
> the day Thursday and all night it was anywhere from -1 to 2. Yesterday it 
> was around 8 all day. We have a heat pump for heat and it actually did 
> just fine maintaining 68-69 inside (programmable thermostat). Electric 
> aux heat would kick on from time to time. I can’t say how long total it 
> ran on aux heat but it was not constant. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Dec 24, 2022, at 8:42 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 19F here which is very unusual. My heating systems are struggling and 
>> aren’t really keeping up so it is chilly in the manse. It was a two dog 
>> night because I only have two dogs. 
>> 
>> Hahaha I just remembered too that 4yr ago today I woke up in the 
>> hospital after having my broken leg fixed the evening before. A casualty 
>> of Ultimate but that aspect of dumbassery has been relegated to the 
>> past. 
>> 
>> Y’all stay warm and enjoy the holiday weekend, Christmas, Festivus, 
>> Kwaanzaa, Hanukkah, Solstice, Saturnalia, or whatever you celebrate. I 
>> don’t think I’m going to be working on any cars today but will be 
>> studying more how to get this M137 cam position sensor replaced later in 
>> the week when it warms up again. 
>> 
>> —FT
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT it’s COLD this morning

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Now Thursday and Friday I will say it ran just about 24/7 except for night when 
I have it go to 66, at which time it will cycle. Ours had an issue since we 
bought the house that at temps below freezing at random the outside unit would 
be shut down in lockout mode for low pressure, the unit would be frosted over, 
and the breaker for the aux heat would be tripped. It was completely at random 
and could go a long time then suddenly do it. Winter would then be over and I 
would forget about it until it happened again the next winter. When it happened 
I would reset the tripped breaker, short the defrost pins and it would go into 
defrost mode and be fine. All I have read indicate that the defrost board is 
fine if jumping the pins puts it into defrost. 

I also had read about testing the coil temp sensor and/or make sure it was 
attached. This one is hard wired to the board so not really a way to test it. 
The sensor was properly attached to the coil as well. Finally I decided to get 
someone to look at it but thought before I do, I’m just going to order a new 
board for it. I did that which comes with the hard wired sensor of course. I 
also went ahead and replaced the breaker. Never had a problem since. I suspect 
perhaps it was the coil sensor not seeing it needed to defrost,  when the heat 
strips kicked on it would trip the breaker. 

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> On Dec 24, 2022, at 9:23 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was having an intermittent fault on one of my mini-split outdoor units for 
> a bad thermistor which was shutting it down. I had ordered parts ages ago but 
> procrastination…. So it faulted yesterday after running for 3 or 4 days fine 
> so I figured it was time… thankfully it has run well since then though it is 
> struggling and not really keeping up. It was not a difficult fix but was 
> starting to get chilly so not entirely pleasant but I got it done. 
> 
> I will probably break out the winter warmies and go tromping in the woods to 
> find a Christmas shrub. Kinda late but why not. Or maybe not. I really really 
> have grown to detest the cold. I need to check my lottery tikkies and thence 
> flights to Panama if successful. 
> 
> —FT
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Dec 24, 2022, at 10:10 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I meant to mention that the mini-splits I had installed at the Flagstaff 
>> house are rated at above 90% efficiency down to -4F. We had single digit 
>> temps there last week, so I checked in to make sure all was well and 
>> everyone reported they were working fine and making plenty of heat.
>> 
>> Can’t wait to see my electric bill.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Dec 24, 2022, at 10:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Right now it is finally up to 11. Supposed to get up to 25 today. Most of 
>>> the day Thursday and all night it was anywhere from -1 to 2. Yesterday it 
>>> was around 8 all day. We have a heat pump for heat and it actually did just 
>>> fine maintaining 68-69 inside (programmable thermostat). Electric aux heat 
>>> would kick on from time to time. I can’t say how long total it ran on aux 
>>> heat but it was not constant. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Dec 24, 2022, at 8:42 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 19F here which is very unusual. My heating systems are struggling and 
 aren’t really keeping up so it is chilly in the manse. It was a two dog 
 night because I only have two dogs. 
 
 Hahaha I just remembered too that 4yr ago today I woke up in the hospital 
 after having my broken leg fixed the evening before. A casualty of 
 Ultimate but that aspect of dumbassery has been relegated to the past. 
 
 Y’all stay warm and enjoy the holiday weekend, Christmas, Festivus, 
 Kwaanzaa, Hanukkah, Solstice, Saturnalia, or whatever you celebrate. I 
 don’t think I’m going to be working on any cars today but will be studying 
 more how to get this M137 cam position sensor replaced later in the week 
 when it warms up again. 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT it’s COLD this morning

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

I will not chime in because our weather is too perfect. 
My gas bill (H2O, furnace) does double this time of year (up to a staggering 
$58 a month), but I’ve dialed in APS and I’m on the $162 a month every month 
plan. 
I need a Mercedes and a house. 

AZBob

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> On Dec 24, 2022, at 8:25 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My gas bill at the Flagstaff house is laughable. I don’t know why, but I’m 
> not complaining. Gas furnace, range, demand hot water heater, dryer. Last 
> month it was $82. That’s with 2-1/2 adults (the person living in the casita 
> uses the dryer, but heat is a mini-split.)
> 
> The electric bill is another story, however. Since the mini-splits have been 
> added it has approached the $200 mark. I’m not sure I’m on a good rate plan, 
> though, either. APS has a bunch of different ones, and they don’t do a good 
> job allowing you to compare. It’s something I’ve been looking into.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 24, 2022, at 10:20 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> In typically winter weather here I don’t recall seeing a bill over 300 in 
>> one month during the coldest part of the year. It has seemed cheaper to me 
>> with a heat pump versus a regular AC and gas furnace. I would hate to see a 
>> gas bill in the winter now with natural gas prices way up like they are. I’m 
>> a big fan of heat pumps. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Dec 24, 2022, at 9:10 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I meant to mention that the mini-splits I had installed at the Flagstaff 
>>> house are rated at above 90% efficiency down to -4F. We had single digit 
>>> temps there last week, so I checked in to make sure all was well and 
>>> everyone reported they were working fine and making plenty of heat.
>>> 
>>> Can’t wait to see my electric bill.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Dec 24, 2022, at 10:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Right now it is finally up to 11. Supposed to get up to 25 today. Most of 
 the day Thursday and all night it was anywhere from -1 to 2. Yesterday it 
 was around 8 all day. We have a heat pump for heat and it actually did 
 just fine maintaining 68-69 inside (programmable thermostat). Electric aux 
 heat would kick on from time to time. I can’t say how long total it ran on 
 aux heat but it was not constant. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Dec 24, 2022, at 8:42 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> 19F here which is very unusual. My heating systems are struggling and 
> aren’t really keeping up so it is chilly in the manse. It was a two dog 
> night because I only have two dogs. 
> 
> Hahaha I just remembered too that 4yr ago today I woke up in the hospital 
> after having my broken leg fixed the evening before. A casualty of 
> Ultimate but that aspect of dumbassery has been relegated to the past. 
> 
> Y’all stay warm and enjoy the holiday weekend, Christmas, Festivus, 
> Kwaanzaa, Hanukkah, Solstice, Saturnalia, or whatever you celebrate. I 
> don’t think I’m going to be working on any cars today but will be 
> studying more how to get this M137 cam position sensor replaced later in 
> the week when it warms up again. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT it’s COLD this morning

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

My gas bill at the Flagstaff house is laughable. I don’t know why, but I’m not 
complaining. Gas furnace, range, demand hot water heater, dryer. Last month it 
was $82. That’s with 2-1/2 adults (the person living in the casita uses the 
dryer, but heat is a mini-split.)

The electric bill is another story, however. Since the mini-splits have been 
added it has approached the $200 mark. I’m not sure I’m on a good rate plan, 
though, either. APS has a bunch of different ones, and they don’t do a good job 
allowing you to compare. It’s something I’ve been looking into.

-D

> On Dec 24, 2022, at 10:20 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> In typically winter weather here I don’t recall seeing a bill over 300 in one 
> month during the coldest part of the year. It has seemed cheaper to me with a 
> heat pump versus a regular AC and gas furnace. I would hate to see a gas bill 
> in the winter now with natural gas prices way up like they are. I’m a big fan 
> of heat pumps. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 24, 2022, at 9:10 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I meant to mention that the mini-splits I had installed at the Flagstaff 
>> house are rated at above 90% efficiency down to -4F. We had single digit 
>> temps there last week, so I checked in to make sure all was well and 
>> everyone reported they were working fine and making plenty of heat.
>> 
>> Can’t wait to see my electric bill.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Dec 24, 2022, at 10:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Right now it is finally up to 11. Supposed to get up to 25 today. Most of 
>>> the day Thursday and all night it was anywhere from -1 to 2. Yesterday it 
>>> was around 8 all day. We have a heat pump for heat and it actually did just 
>>> fine maintaining 68-69 inside (programmable thermostat). Electric aux heat 
>>> would kick on from time to time. I can’t say how long total it ran on aux 
>>> heat but it was not constant. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Dec 24, 2022, at 8:42 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 19F here which is very unusual. My heating systems are struggling and 
 aren’t really keeping up so it is chilly in the manse. It was a two dog 
 night because I only have two dogs. 
 
 Hahaha I just remembered too that 4yr ago today I woke up in the hospital 
 after having my broken leg fixed the evening before. A casualty of 
 Ultimate but that aspect of dumbassery has been relegated to the past. 
 
 Y’all stay warm and enjoy the holiday weekend, Christmas, Festivus, 
 Kwaanzaa, Hanukkah, Solstice, Saturnalia, or whatever you celebrate. I 
 don’t think I’m going to be working on any cars today but will be studying 
 more how to get this M137 cam position sensor replaced later in the week 
 when it warms up again. 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT it’s COLD this morning

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I was having an intermittent fault on one of my mini-split outdoor units for a 
bad thermistor which was shutting it down. I had ordered parts ages ago but 
procrastination…. So it faulted yesterday after running for 3 or 4 days fine so 
I figured it was time… thankfully it has run well since then though it is 
struggling and not really keeping up. It was not a difficult fix but was 
starting to get chilly so not entirely pleasant but I got it done. 

I will probably break out the winter warmies and go tromping in the woods to 
find a Christmas shrub. Kinda late but why not. Or maybe not. I really really 
have grown to detest the cold. I need to check my lottery tikkies and thence 
flights to Panama if successful. 

—FT

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> On Dec 24, 2022, at 10:10 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I meant to mention that the mini-splits I had installed at the Flagstaff 
> house are rated at above 90% efficiency down to -4F. We had single digit 
> temps there last week, so I checked in to make sure all was well and everyone 
> reported they were working fine and making plenty of heat.
> 
> Can’t wait to see my electric bill.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 24, 2022, at 10:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Right now it is finally up to 11. Supposed to get up to 25 today. Most of 
>> the day Thursday and all night it was anywhere from -1 to 2. Yesterday it 
>> was around 8 all day. We have a heat pump for heat and it actually did just 
>> fine maintaining 68-69 inside (programmable thermostat). Electric aux heat 
>> would kick on from time to time. I can’t say how long total it ran on aux 
>> heat but it was not constant. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Dec 24, 2022, at 8:42 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 19F here which is very unusual. My heating systems are struggling and 
>>> aren’t really keeping up so it is chilly in the manse. It was a two dog 
>>> night because I only have two dogs. 
>>> 
>>> Hahaha I just remembered too that 4yr ago today I woke up in the hospital 
>>> after having my broken leg fixed the evening before. A casualty of Ultimate 
>>> but that aspect of dumbassery has been relegated to the past. 
>>> 
>>> Y’all stay warm and enjoy the holiday weekend, Christmas, Festivus, 
>>> Kwaanzaa, Hanukkah, Solstice, Saturnalia, or whatever you celebrate. I 
>>> don’t think I’m going to be working on any cars today but will be studying 
>>> more how to get this M137 cam position sensor replaced later in the week 
>>> when it warms up again. 
>>> 
>>> —FT
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Re: [MBZ] OT it’s COLD this morning

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

In typically winter weather here I don’t recall seeing a bill over 300 in one 
month during the coldest part of the year. It has seemed cheaper to me with a 
heat pump versus a regular AC and gas furnace. I would hate to see a gas bill 
in the winter now with natural gas prices way up like they are. I’m a big fan 
of heat pumps. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 24, 2022, at 9:10 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I meant to mention that the mini-splits I had installed at the Flagstaff 
> house are rated at above 90% efficiency down to -4F. We had single digit 
> temps there last week, so I checked in to make sure all was well and everyone 
> reported they were working fine and making plenty of heat.
> 
> Can’t wait to see my electric bill.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 24, 2022, at 10:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Right now it is finally up to 11. Supposed to get up to 25 today. Most of 
>> the day Thursday and all night it was anywhere from -1 to 2. Yesterday it 
>> was around 8 all day. We have a heat pump for heat and it actually did just 
>> fine maintaining 68-69 inside (programmable thermostat). Electric aux heat 
>> would kick on from time to time. I can’t say how long total it ran on aux 
>> heat but it was not constant. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Dec 24, 2022, at 8:42 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 19F here which is very unusual. My heating systems are struggling and 
>>> aren’t really keeping up so it is chilly in the manse. It was a two dog 
>>> night because I only have two dogs. 
>>> 
>>> Hahaha I just remembered too that 4yr ago today I woke up in the hospital 
>>> after having my broken leg fixed the evening before. A casualty of Ultimate 
>>> but that aspect of dumbassery has been relegated to the past. 
>>> 
>>> Y’all stay warm and enjoy the holiday weekend, Christmas, Festivus, 
>>> Kwaanzaa, Hanukkah, Solstice, Saturnalia, or whatever you celebrate. I 
>>> don’t think I’m going to be working on any cars today but will be studying 
>>> more how to get this M137 cam position sensor replaced later in the week 
>>> when it warms up again. 
>>> 
>>> —FT
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT it’s COLD this morning

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I meant to mention that the mini-splits I had installed at the Flagstaff house 
are rated at above 90% efficiency down to -4F. We had single digit temps there 
last week, so I checked in to make sure all was well and everyone reported they 
were working fine and making plenty of heat.

Can’t wait to see my electric bill.

-D

> On Dec 24, 2022, at 10:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Right now it is finally up to 11. Supposed to get up to 25 today. Most of the 
> day Thursday and all night it was anywhere from -1 to 2. Yesterday it was 
> around 8 all day. We have a heat pump for heat and it actually did just fine 
> maintaining 68-69 inside (programmable thermostat). Electric aux heat would 
> kick on from time to time. I can’t say how long total it ran on aux heat but 
> it was not constant. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 24, 2022, at 8:42 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 19F here which is very unusual. My heating systems are struggling and 
>> aren’t really keeping up so it is chilly in the manse. It was a two dog 
>> night because I only have two dogs. 
>> 
>> Hahaha I just remembered too that 4yr ago today I woke up in the hospital 
>> after having my broken leg fixed the evening before. A casualty of Ultimate 
>> but that aspect of dumbassery has been relegated to the past. 
>> 
>> Y’all stay warm and enjoy the holiday weekend, Christmas, Festivus, 
>> Kwaanzaa, Hanukkah, Solstice, Saturnalia, or whatever you celebrate. I don’t 
>> think I’m going to be working on any cars today but will be studying more 
>> how to get this M137 cam position sensor replaced later in the week when it 
>> warms up again. 
>> 
>> —FT
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT it’s COLD this morning

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Right now it is finally up to 11. Supposed to get up to 25 today. Most of the 
day Thursday and all night it was anywhere from -1 to 2. Yesterday it was 
around 8 all day. We have a heat pump for heat and it actually did just fine 
maintaining 68-69 inside (programmable thermostat). Electric aux heat would 
kick on from time to time. I can’t say how long total it ran on aux heat but it 
was not constant. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 24, 2022, at 8:42 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 19F here which is very unusual. My heating systems are struggling and aren’t 
> really keeping up so it is chilly in the manse. It was a two dog night 
> because I only have two dogs. 
> 
> Hahaha I just remembered too that 4yr ago today I woke up in the hospital 
> after having my broken leg fixed the evening before. A casualty of Ultimate 
> but that aspect of dumbassery has been relegated to the past. 
> 
> Y’all stay warm and enjoy the holiday weekend, Christmas, Festivus, Kwaanzaa, 
> Hanukkah, Solstice, Saturnalia, or whatever you celebrate. I don’t think I’m 
> going to be working on any cars today but will be studying more how to get 
> this M137 cam position sensor replaced later in the week when it warms up 
> again. 
> 
> —FT
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT it’s COLD this morning

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Sorry. Shoveling sunshine at the southern manse with a low of 29F. A quick run 
to Wally World early this morning revealed throngs of former Northerners with 
thinned blood dressed like they were at one of the poles. Parkas, gloves, you 
name it. I always chuckle when I see this. If the temps drop below about 40F 
everyone here thinks they’re going to die from the cold, or so it seems.

It will be warmer at the western manse today than in Florida, or so it appears. 
Mid-50s in Flagstaff through the middle of next week, typical winter weather. 
Guess we chose poorly for our holiday gathering location.

No injuries, thankfully, but Mrs. Dan is not feeling well this morning from 
some stomach bug. I had some discomfort earlier in the week, it might be what I 
had. So now I’m designated head of festivities, which means everyone comes in, 
makes their own libations and rummages through the fridge for snacks until the 
beef tenderloin roast is served this evening. If you are hungry or thirsty it’s 
your own fault.

No car plans at present, but I did notice that I really need to wash the ML550. 
And the E320. Black cars really show the dirt.

-D

> On Dec 24, 2022, at 9:51 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Five years and a week ago I broke my left ankle taking the trash out in the 
> garage, thankfully it wasn’t this cold.
> 
> 9F this morning with a strong breeze out of the West, I still haven’t tried 
> to clear the drive.  As per usual, there is a drift at the end that’s too big 
> to drive through, but I had zero interest in digging it out with blowing snow 
> that would fill it back in as fast as I dug and a -20 wind chill.  I don’t 
> need to go anywhere until late this afternoon, if then.
> 
> it was -8 yesterday norming.  House is snug except my bedroom (converted 
> covered porch) but I have a big comforter my Mom got me 40 years ago so I 
> slept well.  Cats stayed in the warm part of the house for some reason…
> 
> More snow and wind predicted on Sunday, so Christmas this year may be next 
> weekend no need to battle snow to have dinner with the family.
> 
> Peter
> 
>> On Dec 24, 2022, at 8:41 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 19F here which is very unusual. My heating systems are struggling and aren’t 
>> really keeping up so it is chilly in the manse. It was a two dog night 
>> because I only have two dogs. 
>> 
>> Hahaha I just remembered too that 4yr ago today I woke up in the hospital 
>> after having my broken leg fixed the evening before. A casualty of Ultimate 
>> but that aspect of dumbassery has been relegated to the past. 
>> 
>> Y’all stay warm and enjoy the holiday weekend, Christmas, Festivus, 
>> Kwaanzaa, Hanukkah, Solstice, Saturnalia, or whatever you celebrate. I don’t 
>> think I’m going to be working on any cars today but will be studying more 
>> how to get this M137 cam position sensor replaced later in the week when it 
>> warms up again. 
>> 
>> —FT
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Re: [MBZ] OT it’s COLD this morning

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Five years and a week ago I broke my left ankle taking the trash out in the 
garage, thankfully it wasn’t this cold.

9F this morning with a strong breeze out of the West, I still haven’t tried to 
clear the drive.  As per usual, there is a drift at the end that’s too big to 
drive through, but I had zero interest in digging it out with blowing snow that 
would fill it back in as fast as I dug and a -20 wind chill.  I don’t need to 
go anywhere until late this afternoon, if then.

it was -8 yesterday norming.  House is snug except my bedroom (converted 
covered porch) but I have a big comforter my Mom got me 40 years ago so I slept 
well.  Cats stayed in the warm part of the house for some reason…

More snow and wind predicted on Sunday, so Christmas this year may be next 
weekend no need to battle snow to have dinner with the family.

Peter

> On Dec 24, 2022, at 8:41 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 19F here which is very unusual. My heating systems are struggling and aren’t 
> really keeping up so it is chilly in the manse. It was a two dog night 
> because I only have two dogs. 
> 
> Hahaha I just remembered too that 4yr ago today I woke up in the hospital 
> after having my broken leg fixed the evening before. A casualty of Ultimate 
> but that aspect of dumbassery has been relegated to the past. 
> 
> Y’all stay warm and enjoy the holiday weekend, Christmas, Festivus, Kwaanzaa, 
> Hanukkah, Solstice, Saturnalia, or whatever you celebrate. I don’t think I’m 
> going to be working on any cars today but will be studying more how to get 
> this M137 cam position sensor replaced later in the week when it warms up 
> again. 
> 
> —FT
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[MBZ] OT it’s COLD this morning

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

19F here which is very unusual. My heating systems are struggling and aren’t 
really keeping up so it is chilly in the manse. It was a two dog night because 
I only have two dogs. 

Hahaha I just remembered too that 4yr ago today I woke up in the hospital after 
having my broken leg fixed the evening before. A casualty of Ultimate but that 
aspect of dumbassery has been relegated to the past. 

Y’all stay warm and enjoy the holiday weekend, Christmas, Festivus, Kwaanzaa, 
Hanukkah, Solstice, Saturnalia, or whatever you celebrate. I don’t think I’m 
going to be working on any cars today but will be studying more how to get this 
M137 cam position sensor replaced later in the week when it warms up again. 

—FT

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Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I had a 1960 VW barn door van in high school, but it was painted olive drab. 
Otherwise, pretty much dead on.

-D

> On Dec 23, 2022, at 11:17 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Me. A few decades ago.
> 
> https://youtu.be/bdMAu-AYMGo
> 
> 
> Rick
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] I have never seen an old console stereo like this before
> 
> Yeah…I absolutely remember how good music sounded while stoned.
> 
> AZBob, hit the weed hard in to ‘70s, haven’t imbibed since 1979.
> 
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>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 6:41 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes my memories of some of those listening sessions are somewhat hazy
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
 On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:53 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Our minds were very “fuzzy” while listening to that system at the time. 
>>> From what I can recall, that is.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:45 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 I think that’s the one he had although my memory might be getting 
 suggested by that listing
 
 --FT
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>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:31 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> Best friend in high school had a dad who was a very successful law 
> practice. Their house had the requisite “conversation pit’ of the time. 
> He had a Pioneer quad system professionally installed around the “pit”.
> 
> He lived close to school so we would often go over there at lunch and 
> listed to the few things that were released in quad, the one I can recall 
> was “Victim of Love” by the Eagles.
> 
> It was a bit of a gimmick. Sounded cool, but I don’t think it was 
> practical.
> 
> On a related note, I saw a quadrophonic Pioneer receiver on FBM today, 
> the one that had the “oscilloscope” display to “tune” the system.
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/640855280582333/
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 23, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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>> A buddy in my dorm had some money I think in a trust after his dad died, 
>> and he was in the Natural Guard too so made some $$ from that. He was 
>> always upgrading his hifi system.
>> 
>> Quadrophonic came out and he bought a system. Some huge receiver putting 
>> out a couple hundred watts, a quad turntable, and 4 Heil Air Motion 
>> Transformer speakers which were pretty huge. All this in like a 10x12 
>> dorm room.
>> 
>> The speakers were truncated pyramids with the woofer in the bottom then 
>> this vertical omnidirectional speaker in the top.
>> 
>> It was “surround” sound at the time and certain albums were remastered 
>> for the four channel aspect. It sounded really cool but after awhile was 
>> kinda tedious. The room was too small to really get the full effect but 
>> he got married and moved into a campus apartment that had a larger 
>> living room and it was marginally better.
>> 
>> I think the fad passed but he hung onto the system for quite some time. 
>> There were never too many quad recordings but it played stereo quite 
>> well and there was some “simulate” setting.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] In case you wanted to make your own records

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

(looks at goodies list) Excellent value for the price.  :)

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