Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD

2005-10-18 Thread Tom Scordato
It matters.  Had monroe changed to Bilsteins.  Huge difference in ride and 
feel on a 123 chassis. Do not know on the your chassis but probablly true. 
Well worth the money


Regards Tom Scordato
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Subject: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD



My kid is tearing up my 80 300SD.  The latest is a broken shock.  It
looks like the bottom washer on the top mount broke, and the top of the
shock is sticking up about 4 inches.  The Monroe shocks are about a
third the price of the Bilsteins.  Is it really going to matter in a 25
year old car?  I'll be driving it from now on mostly.  His 84 SD is
finally on the road.  Thanks
Kevin

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Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness

2005-10-18 Thread Tom Scordato
An who said diesel is cheaper.  It used to be.  Tell me has the refining 
process changed?  How else could #2 fuel oil get so wacked out?


Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA
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Subject: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness



Around here, since last Thursday, gasoline can be had for 2.39.  Diesel is
3.19  Diesel went UP last week!   $.80 premium over gasoline is NUTS for a
lower quality distillate  I have been driving the van more  It 
runs
on E85 too, but they jacked the price up on E85 so that there is no 
savings.



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[MBZ] Topsider

2005-10-19 Thread Tom Scordato

Where are these sold please???

Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA
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Subject: [MBZ] Topsider



It works super on my MB, but I tried it on a 2000 Volvo S70 and it was a
failure- slurp, adjust, slurp, adjust, oh forget it I'm just gonna open 
the

bolt down below.

But it is tops on my MB. Oil change in 8 minutes and a good arm workout.


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<done

sucking when the inside of your oile tube is black?>>

Listening at the dipstick tube, you will hear the same sound you got when
when you were a kid, sucking the last drop from a root-beer float. 
Sluuurp.


Even with M1 in a gasser, you can't see much in the tube.

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness

2005-10-19 Thread Tom Scordato

Kaleb said

"Surely they would have come up with more
efficient ways by now"

Nope, tradition un hampered by progress...In PA There is always coal at $80 
a ton






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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness



I can buy diesel going up because of heating oil season, but $1 more,
something is fishy.  BTW, whats the deal with heating oil anyways, why
is it still used up north?  Surely they would have come up with more
efficient ways by now.

dave walton wrote:


Most of rural Ohio heats with fuel oil. Now is the time when demand
begins. Might be a contributing factor

-Dave Walton


On 10/18/05, Tom Scordato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


An who said diesel is cheaper.  It used to be.  Tell me has the refining
process changed?  How else could #2 fuel oil get so wacked out?

Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA
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Subject: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness



Around here, since last Thursday, gasoline can be had for 2.39.  Diesel 
is
3.19  Diesel went UP last week!   $.80 premium over gasoline is NUTS for 
a

lower quality distillate  I have been driving the van more  It
runs
on E85 too, but they jacked the price up on E85 so that there is no
savings.


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[MBZ] MB Fuel Additives

2005-10-22 Thread Tom Scordato
Marshall said "You need to know that Mercedes does not approve of ANY diesel 
fuel additives for regular use."


Marshall, maybe from the ignorance is bliss school of thought, I have been 
adding in an oz +/- of Power Service bio side, anti gell type, cetane boost 
stuff and in the winter when it gets cold some kerosene at EVERY FILL UP 
since I have owned it which is three years.  the car is a 1977 300D.  I 
assumed this was good practice and maybe it will not take me 20 years to 
switch if you sell me some more.  Any more thoughts ( I also add some lube 
oil to the tank once in a while). on what negitive situations might be 
avoided by stopping beside my exra 5 minutes and the additive $$?  I Lubro 
Molly directly to engine once or twice a year.


Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] newbie questions



Lee Levitt wrote:



2). I know nothing about diesel additives, except that they're
important. What should I know?


You need to know that Mercedes does not approve of ANY diesel fuel
additives for regular use. If you have a specific problem, there are
additives that can correct some problems (clean the fuel system, remove
water from the fuel system, kill bugs in the fuel, etc.), but they
should not EVER be used until you have established that there is a
specific problem. Mercedes diesels were designed to run optimally on #1
or #2 diesel fuel - NOT on diesel and some additive! Any regular use of
any additive will unnecessarily increase the cost of running the car!

It took me almost 20 years to stop using additives - but since I stopped
using them about 20 years ago, the cost of running my cars has decreased
and the cars run for years without ANY additives (except a shot of
anti-gel in the late fall and if temps are predicted to drop below zero 
F).


Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] MB Fuel Additives

2005-10-23 Thread Tom Scordato

Thanks a million Marshall, I value your knowledge!  Will do.
Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA
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From: "Marshall Booth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Fuel Additives



Tom Scordato wrote:
Marshall said "You need to know that Mercedes does not approve of ANY 
diesel

fuel additives for regular use."

Marshall, maybe from the ignorance is bliss school of thought, I have 
been
adding in an oz +/- of Power Service bio side, anti gell type, cetane 
boost

stuff and in the winter when it gets cold some kerosene at EVERY FILL UP
since I have owned it which is three years.  the car is a 1977 300D.  I
assumed this was good practice and maybe it will not take me 20 years to
switch if you sell me some more.  Any more thoughts ( I also add some 
lube

oil to the tank once in a while). on what negitive situations might be
avoided by stopping beside my exra 5 minutes and the additive $$?  I 
Lubro

Molly directly to engine once or twice a year.


Probably what you are doing will do little or no harm except to your
wallet. Your car is designed to run on either #1 or #2 diesel fuel for a
lot of miles. #2 lubricates a lot better than #1 so adding a lubricant
(that MAY seriously help an engine with a fuel lubricated injection
pump) will be of little or no benefit when your running on #2 (or even
B10 or B20). If you buy winter treated fuel (by FAR the best most
economical way to treat fuel - they are professionals and know exactly
how much of what is usually needed) then about all you need is to add a
shot or two of anti-gel to sequester the water that condenses out of the
air in your less than full tank when temperatures drop. If the idle gets
a little uneven, then maybe a Techron concentrate or Diesel Purge
treatment might be justified (after you do a few Italian tuneup runs to
see if that's all that's needed). I have found that Italian tuneup or
even a few hours of highway driving are USUALLY more effective than any
fuel treatment as "tonic" for minor idle unsmoothness!

Your engine REALLY was designed to run OPTIMALLY on high quality, clean
 #2 diesel - not some home brew mixture that you THINK might be good.
Play until you get your car running really smoothly. Then stop putting
STUFF in the tank and see how long it takes before there is a problem.
If your experience is like mine, and you do a fair amount of highway
driving, it may be years before you need to consider adding anything
except to remove water!

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] 240D oil pressure wackiness

2005-10-25 Thread Tom Scordato

Lube oil, Lube oil.

I check every fill up.  Car is shut down wait for a few minutes clean dip 
stick place in guide tube, count to 5 one thousand check.  Look for leaks at 
oil cooling lines every fill up. Quick inspect of radiator and heating 
hoses. While driving check oil pressure and temp of engine every few 
minutes.  (or better yet every time you check speedo)  If a drop happens or 
a drastic rise in engine temp, pull over imediately and shut her down and 
inspect.  Like most metal scraping metal, it does not hold up long with no 
lube oil,  especially at high speeds, low tolerances and high temps.


Mine 77 300D also consumes about 1/2 to  a quart every 1,000 miles or so. 
Has for three years, no worse no better using sythetic.


Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA
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Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 5:00 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D oil pressure wackiness




Chris,



I had the exact same symptoms on my 240D last winter. I replaced the oil 
cap which had been leaking, vowed to keep a closer eye on oil level and it 
hasn't happened again.


My car consumes a quart of oil in about 800 miles (Mobil 1 5w40, 15w50 and 
0w40, tried all 3). It leaks a fair bit of that and must burn some too. 
I've driven about 35,000 miles since I switched to synthetic and all I can 
say is it isn't getting any worse. Maybe a little better but I don't keep 
careful enough records...




-Curt

'83 240D "Hammie" 247kmi



Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:16:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [MBZ] 240D oil pressure wackiness
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

seems like the list is down, which means you'll get
this in time to disregard my previous post.

After sitting for 4 hours, I checked the oil level
(coolant was fine) - NOTHING. So I added 3 qrts (2
probably would have been better) and now everything is
back to normal. DH (as Homer would say).

No excuse, but not having a working odometer probably
contributed to my lack of oversight. It obviously does
burn oil. Will need to watch that much more carefully.

Are there any maintenance issues that would improve
burning oil? Oil Pressure is good, compression is not
great...what is the cause? worn rings? Anything a
healthy dose of Diesel Purge might fix? How about a
3,000 highway run on M1 to break crud up on the rings
and help them reseat? This car sat in MN FOREVER and I
have only driven it around town and local highways. At
first it would not start under 40, let alone at near
freezing on my "special sauce" ("alternative fuel")

Again, thanks for bearaing with my more or less dumb
questions.



Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
-1987 300TD, 150K miles, "Rotk?ppchen" (Little Red Riding Hood)
-1985 300SD, 209K miles, "Wulf"
(http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD)
-1976 240D, ManyK miles,  "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs
Pr?fenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running
WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this 
unless you are

willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.)
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[MBZ] MB Car Fax 1979 240 D

2005-10-26 Thread Tom Scordato
Could anyone run a repot on a 1979 240 D vin 12312312094914.  I would 
appreciate it.


Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA
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From: "Loren Faeth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] HCCI and 'what is a diesel"


Ja, but the definition of Diesel is compression ignition.  So, an argument
can be made both ways.  Since it is a honda, I say WHO CARES?

Diesel engines can run on whale oil, but they are not called whale engines
if so, or soy engines if run on soy oil.

At 08:09 PM 10/25/2005, you wrote:

Well from what I can see it is to do with the name of the fuel that is used
in a particular engine. It would be confusing to call the HCCI engines
diesels because people would assume that they run on diesel.
"Now listen carefully dear, even though this new car has an engine called a
diesel in it, it actually runs on petrol/gas. So please don't get mixed up
when you fill it up."

Hendrik

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From: "Christopher McCann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 4:37 AM
Subject: [MBZ] HCCI and 'what is a diesel"


In reading about HCCI, it annoys me that they say it
is 'like a diesel' or 'like it's diesel cousin'...I
guess this bugs me b/c I have read about Diesel
himself and see  how he envisaged the engine. Any
compression ignition engine is a diesel...obvisouly
HCCI is the most different out there, esp since it
seems that the current ones still have spark plugs to
kick in at the higher and lower revs to even things
out, making it a hybrid diesel. But if an HCCI engine
were to be produced that had no spark plugs, it would
simply be a diesel - just optimized to use a different
fuel, just like Dr. Diesel himself modified engines to
run off thick Baku oil (and was awarded a medal by the
Czar of Russia for doing so).

It's probably all marketing, want to sidestep the idea
of dirty soot belching, glow plugging diesels. But
it's still a diesel.

It just irks me a tad. Rudy could care less what it's
called, from what I can tell of his life, he would be
happy to see this, but would not like the
over-complicatedness of it as it makes it less
practical (impossible) for an owner to work on. He was
very big on empowering (pun intended) the little
guy...the simpler the better.

70 mpg is nice though...

Done rambling.


Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
-1987 300TD, 150K miles, "Rotkäppchen" (Little Red Riding Hood)
-1985 300SD, 209K miles, "Wulf"
(http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD)
-1976 240D, ManyK miles,  "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs
Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running
WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this
unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.)
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Re: [MBZ] MB Car Fax 1979 240 D

2005-10-26 Thread Tom Scordato

Mitch thans for trying, Tom
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Tom Scordato wrote:


Could anyone run a repot on a 1979 240 D vin 12312312094914.  I would
appreciate it.


Not through carfax, that's the old numbering scheme, which carfax never
collected data on. Need the 17 character "WDB" numbers that came along in
1980 or 1981.

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[MBZ] 1981 240D Alternator Job

2005-10-27 Thread Tom Scordato

Has anyone changed out an alternator on a 1981 240D?

Need some advise or some war stories on how to do it.  Can it be done with 
out lifting the car?

Please advise on a web link or a procedure.  Thanks gang.

Regards Tom Scordato

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Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Start gear



Marshall Booth wrote:

Gabriel S. wrote:

Does the 87 300d start in second gear? I read somewere that 124 (not sure 
if
all) start in 2nd gear. If yes, how can i defeat this (besides flooring 
it

every time)?



MOST US delivered 124s start in 2nd. MOST 124s are gasoline powered.
None of the 124 diesels start in second! If yours starts in second, then
the linkage is probably worn and needs to be adjusted.

Marshall


Sometime in the early 90s the gas 124s got 1st gear starts too.

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] 1981 240D Alternator Job

2005-10-28 Thread Tom Scordato

thanks a million Bruce!
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Tom,

You can do it from above but ramps make it easier. 
Just a couple of long bolts and spacers.  Jiggle it

around to get both bolts back in.

Bruce  


--- Tom Scordato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Has anyone changed out an alternator on a 1981 240D?

Need some advise or some war stories on how to do
it.  Can it be done with 
out lifting the car?

Please advise on a web link or a procedure.  Thanks
gang.

Regards Tom Scordato




Bruce
82 300CD 334kmi 'His'
85 300CD 236kmi 'Hers'
75 240D 194kmi 'Donner'
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[MBZ] 300SL History Channel

2005-10-29 Thread Tom Scordato
Oh to my surprise as I turned on the History channel this morn and saw a 
special on the MB 300SL.  What a machine.  May have been on before and or 
may becoming to a cable company near you.


For once  I took control and did not allow that home channel with the folks 
doing $900,000 home improvements my wife always wants to watch.


Regards
Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA 






Re: [MBZ] Smoke on Start-up

2005-10-30 Thread Tom Scordato
Peter, first try Italian tune up.  Get it out there on intersate  291, 91, 
or 84 and push it hard for 30 or 40 miles.  These cars love that.  See what 
happens.
I have a 77 300D that always smokes white on start up but runs fine and does 
not smoke once rolling good.


Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA
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Subject: [MBZ] Smoke on Start-up



Cool weather is here.

I note that my car fires very quick.  It seems to be blowing much more
smoke (White) than it did last year.  Runs fine.  G/P are about 20Kmi
old.

Thoughts?

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Windsor, Connecticut
U.S.A.

1987 Mercedes 300SDL, 233 Kmi on Delvac1, changes when f-soot is 2%

1995 Ford F-250 W/PSD, 192 Kmi on Rotella @ 5 Kmi Changes

2002 PT Cruizer, 77 Kmi, Every 5 Kmi with what's on sale

1954 Metropolitan {My Hanger-Queen}

None use oil between changes, go figure ;-)

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[MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-30 Thread Tom Scordato
I have a line on a 1982 240D that I may be interested in.  It has a turbo on 
it.  Owner who is the original says it was put on I believe after market.


1.  Any one have experience with this please.

2.  Was the four banger designed to allow and run properly witht his type of 
adder.


I do not believe it was offered from the German factory but was put on later 
in 1982 as a kit?


Any words of wisdom please.

Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA 






Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread Tom Scordato
Boy thanks for the responce and on a Sunday evening to boot.  I will go look 
at it.  I do not think I want it after having heard from the group.  But 
will pass on infor to anyone interested.  Car is located in Northeast.


Regards
Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA
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h, I do not want to lower Gump's power.  EGR is a bad thing, since
I would have to engineer a way to put a BB in to block the valve.  Will
just stick with the blow drier idea

On Sunday, October 30, 2005, at 04:49 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:


OK Don wrote:

Since a Diesel supplies more air than needed, and adds the right
amount of fuel, maybe you could just recycle the exhaust - it ought to
still have O2 -- -- -


That's called exhaust gas recirculation (EGR). Most Mercedes diesels
made since the early '80s have it. It lowers combustion temperatures,
the generation of NOx and lowers power while it's engaged.

Marshall
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[MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread Tom Scordato
Mike Said I want another 240D...I am in the NEWhat is the asking 
price?


Mike


to all:  I went an inspected car today.  Has 66,000 +/- miles on it. 
Original owner. I saw all maint. records Car is a Maroon colored paint and 
is in very good shape with clear coat still in place.  No rust. Has never 
been driven in snow.  One or two minor blemished and a small dime size dent 
on right side of car.  Body is very nice.  The thing has an after market 
Calloway turbine.  It is a standard shift and I could not notice anymore 
power than a regular 240D.  The gauges and the wine indicate I believe the 
turbo is working.  I had trouble getting it inot 1st as it wanted to go into 
reverse.  A little more temperment than other 240D diesels I have driven 
with standard.  The turbo gauges meant the area where the ash tray is has 
been bastardized and looks a bit off with these gauges.  The car has a cd 
player with no orginal Becker.  Interior is a 8.5 to a 9 out of 10 and is 
palimino MB tex.  Has manual moon roof with electric windows.  Vacuum door 
locks work.


The turbo is placed when facing front of radiator on the left under the 
intake and exhaust manifolds with the air filter housing being located via 
some after market supports over the A/C reciever.  The car has two diesel 
filters plus inline filter.


Guy wants $8,000 for it, and I am not interested. I did not take pics but 
email me off line and I can give you further info.   I question the 
longevity of having a turbo, but I assume it could be removed and placed 
back to original and would be more appealling to a purist.


Regards

Tom Scordato
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I want another 240D...I am in the NEWhat is the asking price?

Mike
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Boy thanks for the responce and on a Sunday evening to boot.  I will go
look
at it.  I do not think I want it after having heard from the group.  But
will pass on infor to anyone interested.  Car is located in Northeast.

Regards
Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA
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h, I do not want to lower Gump's power.  EGR is a bad thing, since
I would have to engineer a way to put a BB in to block the valve.  Will
just stick with the blow drier idea

On Sunday, October 30, 2005, at 04:49 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:


OK Don wrote:

Since a Diesel supplies more air than needed, and adds the right
amount of fuel, maybe you could just recycle the exhaust - it ought to
still have O2 -- -- -


That's called exhaust gas recirculation (EGR). Most Mercedes diesels
made since the early '80s have it. It lowers combustion temperatures,
the generation of NOx and lowers power while it's engaged.

Marshall
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[MBZ] diesel prices coming down

2005-10-31 Thread Tom Scordato

Paid $2.66 here in central PA today.  Down to $2.64 by evening

Tom Scordato
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On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 12:02:16PM -0800, Gabriel S. wrote:

2.99 here in Southern California.


2.99 in walnut creek, 2.73 last night in lathrop at joe's travel center
(affectionately referred to as joe's go juice)

K

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[MBZ] Big Boy Topsider Oil Sucker

2005-11-04 Thread Tom Scordato
I have been toying with getting the subject unit.  I read the reviews for 
the sucker in West Marine and some of our Mariime friends are pretty 
critical of the unit.


Anyone in diesel world use one before I plop down 50 smackers on this thing?

Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA 






[MBZ] Car Transport

2005-11-04 Thread Tom Scordato
fly there drive back.  I plan on doing this from southwest to PA on a 240D. 
Cost to ship runs 900-1500 smakers depending.  With all due respect avoiding 
the head aches you get dealing with some car transport folks.


flight out $150 one way.  Fuel back $250, Hotels non for me drive straight 
through.  Rental car to Pittsburgh airport one way $75

The thrill of driving a 240D w cross country in fall  PRICELESS

Regards Tom Scordato


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fly up, drive back.

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Anybody got a good way to transport a car from Kansas to Va.?  Estimated
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TIA -

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Re: [MBZ] Big Boy Topsider Oil Sucker28

2005-11-05 Thread Tom Scordato

I made a $2.00 sucker.  it sucked, just not oil

Tom
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I've had mine for over a year now and its good. The seals aren't so great 
on it but so far thats just made me pump a bit more to get all the oil 
out. Otherwise its been very satisfactory.




We'll get killed for even talking about this by the $2 oil sucker crowd 
but I have nowhere to plug a $2 oil sucker in since I can't drive my car 
into my 3rd floor walkup apartment. So the topsider (which is actually I 
think "topside" not "topsider") is a good choice for me. My mechanic was 
charging me $20 to change the oil, I buy the oil, which was a fair price 
but paid for the topsider after a couple uses. IIRC I paid $40 from 
Northern Tool.




-Curt



Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:25:43 -0500
From: "Tom Scordato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [MBZ]  Big Boy Topsider Oil Sucker
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reply-type=original

I have been toying with getting the subject unit.  I read the reviews
for
the sucker in West Marine and some of our Mariime friends are pretty
critical of the unit.

Anyone in diesel world use one before I plop down 50 smackers on this
thing?

Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA



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Re: [MBZ] Becker Radio

2005-11-05 Thread Tom Scordato
Any one have paperwork and schematic for a Becker 560 (I believe) model 
radio, AM/FM cassette they can part with or sell.  The black looking unit.


Regards Tom Scordato


Bellefonte PA
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] SLS accumulators



Marshall Booth wrote:

The accumulators in "S" class cars DO tend to deteriorate sooner with a
range of 60-100kmi being the kind of life that I've seen most often. It
may be the additional weight (but my 300TD is only a few hundred pounds
lighter than a 126 with SLS and it's original accumulators lasted about
140kmi).


Are those S-class cars using SLS with springs or springless systems like
the 6.3/6.9/600 had?
The springless ones are charged to 2-3 times the pressure of the S123
SLS accumulators. (23 bar for S123, 57-75 bar for the others IIRC)

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Re: [MBZ] Hood release cable on 1982 300td wagon

2005-11-07 Thread Tom Scordato
This happened to  me last winter on a 1977 300D.  My block heater plug of 
course was under the hood and to be accessed by pulling cable and openning. 
I had to keep stating vehicle every 4 to five hours just so I could run it 
until I made the repair


Here is what I did.  You may be able to open hood by reaching between grill 
and getting a long pair of needle pliers in there. You will see the latch, 
pull towards the right I believe. I eventually cut the grill it is plastic 
and made the cable repair which is not that hard at all.  hardest part is 
tightning the nuts underneath that hold it in place under the latch.  make 
sure the latch is in good shape and lined up properly.  This was the cause 
of my cable snapping and I ended up replaceing the latch part on the body 
just forward of the radiator. I also replaced the grill with a new one. Hope 
this helps.  There is a good write up on how to do it in the MB manuals on 
123 chassis.  Let me know if you need a copy.


Regards Tom Scordato

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Subject: [MBZ] Hood release cable on 1982 300td wagon



My cable broke inside right at the release handle.  Any ideas of how
difficult this is to repair?

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Re: [MBZ] 300D timing chain replacement

2005-11-10 Thread Tom Scordato

Kaleb said

Have you checked to

see if its stretched?


No Kaleb not yet   I will.  Valves due for adjustment in three months or so. 
10-4 on the two man job.


Tom
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You need 2 people, one to feed chain, one to turn the engine over.
First things first though, why are you changing it?  Have you checked to
see if its stretched?

Tom Scordato wrote:


Contemplaing doing timing chain overdue at 270K miles.  I have been doing
some research.  It appears a chain buddy;, ie standby helper is required.
Can this job be done totally solo?  I have not met any of my neighbors or
friends/wifes/kids or enemies who gives a rats a-- for my 77 300D or 
would

be worthy or interested in helping.

Any thoughts please.  Can it be done solo?  Thanks
Regards Tom Scordato, Bellefonte PA



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[MBZ] Carfax LESSONS LEARNED

2005-11-10 Thread Tom Scordato
Just for your info Carfax has some flaws.  I bought a 1981 MB 240D last 
November, advertised with 71,000 miles.  Did a car fax check, was fine, 
mileage is confirmed ok.


Shipped her cross country.  With in five minutes of having it home rifled 
through glove box.  Found old maintenance records as well as the name 
address of the second owner who owned car for 1987-2004 years.


He informed me of the whole history of the auto, as well as sending me a 
copy of the odometer (should be called true mileage) disclosure form.  Over 
250,000 miles. The 1987-2004 Owner of the car sent it to me. Trouble was 
this owner who I spoke with replaced odometer with a new one set to 0   70K 
miles or so ago and never renewed the title/registration in his state.  Car 
fax just went by the latest registration. which was from the guy I bought it 
from.  He owned the car for a month or so.



Just a sea story and word of caution:   "extreme claims of low mileage 
require extreme proof"  Look for maintenance records, which matach up 
mileage and good service practices, where the car was serviced, and talk to 
past owners. Talk to past mechanics.  Do not be bashfull.  Push for the 
information.  It took me over a year and many visits to the court to resolve 
my issue.  It was a real battle.  I thought I had an out with Carfax's buy 
back guarantee.  They just laughed at me.  Since it was not properly 
retitled when the odometer was changed out they were not liable.


Beware...

Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA



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Vehicle Snapshot
Vehicle 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300 Series 300D-T
VIN WDBEB28D8MB417104
Body Style 4 Door Sedan
Country of Manufacture Germany


Vehicle History Checklist
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this vehicle.

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1995-11-21 belleville, IL  registration event/renewal
1996-06-19 center harbor, NH  registration event/renewal
1996-06-21 center harbor, NH 70300 title
1996-12-27 center harbor, NH  registration event/renewal
1997-11-03 center harbor, NH  registration event/renewal
1998-10-30 center harbor, NH  registration event/renewal
1998-11-04 center harbor, NH 104078 title
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2003-05-22 meredith, NH  registration event/renewal
2004-06-01 fort myers beach, FL  title
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Re: [MBZ] changing to synthetic

2005-11-13 Thread Tom Scordato


Lee was reported to have said > "My mechanic, a Mercedes guy (on the board 
of the local MB club, etc), is

strongly resisting my desire to convert my car to synthetic oil. He's
concerned that all manner of leaks will appear. Generally I trust him on
things like this...but I'd really like to run synthetic.

I know we've already discussed this...any further thoughts? "


Lee
Same thing a mechanic who only services the  finest cars Europeanin State 
College PA said to me three years ago when I bought my 1977 300D and I knew 
absolutely nothing about these cars.  Like a deer in the headlights I 
brought it in to him.  This guy makes more money than a New York City brain 
surgeon per hour.  "oh you will get leaks"  oh this oh that. Like a dentist 
telling you do not brush with Flouride (so he can fill more cavities). I 
avoid this guy like the latest plague we are gearing up for.  All the 
experts are here on this list.  I tust them more than any mechanic because 
they live and breath this stuff.  They love it.


Speaking from my experience...You have dino/synth. oil that when you compare 
is it is the same weight/sae.  One works better in extreme hot cold 
conditions, holds together better for a longer time, provides better 
protection during cold start ups. It is by a miracle of science and 
industrial production chemicaly and physically superior.   Metal rubbing 
metal, one lube material lasts longer and is better.  It was a no brainer. 
I switched a few months after owning the car.  Never got one leak.  I do 45 
to 55K a year on her mileage wise.  Mobil one, (or Amsoil if you like) 
would not have it any other way. Every 10K change the lube filters, oil and 
while I am at it my fuel filters. I just purchased a 1979 240D four banger 
with 74K original miles . Drove it from Phoenix Az to Bellefonte PA, to get 
the kinks out.  First thing I will do is change it out too. Remember, lube 
oil, lube oil, lube oil.


Now Marshall Both knows the exact scientific reasons, because he has spilt 
more than I know about these fine machines but that is the way this degreed 
engineer sees it. Hope this helps.


Regards
Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA
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My mechanic, a Mercedes guy (on the board of the local MB club, etc), is
strongly resisting my desire to convert my car to synthetic oil. He's
concerned that all manner of leaks will appear. Generally I trust him on
things like this...but I'd really like to run synthetic.

I know we've already discussed this...any further thoughts?

Thanks!

Lee
'93 300D 2.5L turbo 179K



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Re: [MBZ] (Sorry) more synthetic oil questions!

2005-11-13 Thread Tom Scordato

"Marshall's recommended Mobil 1 Truck and SUV 5W-40 is not available."


I have been using the Mobil 1 15-50 "extended service" for over 100K with no 
problems.  I will swith to 5-40 Mobile one next time only because I can now 
get it.


Regards Tom
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Subject: [MBZ] (Sorry) more synthetic oil questions!



Hi team

Thanks for the discussion on synthetic oils and for your patience in
answering the same questions again and again.

Down here in the colonies, the only Mobil synthetic oils available are

Mobil 1  5W-50
Mobil 1  0W-40
Mobil 1 10W-30
Mobil 1 15W-50

Marshall's recommended Mobil 1 Truck and SUV 5W-40 is not available.

Being a bear of relatively little engineering brain, my reading of the
information in both www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html and www.mobil.co.nz 
suggests

that only Mobil 1 5W-50 would be suitable for my 1985 300TD (engine
617.912). It meets MB spec 229.3 and does not require a fleece filter
(whatever that is).

So, am I correct in assuming that

(a) this is the oil for me?

(b) the standard MB oil filter will do the trick?

(c)  I can expect longer change intervals?

(d) if yes to (c), I can change the oil and filter every 6000 miles 
(double

existing interval) ? 9000 miles (treble)?

Given that sale-price Mobil 1 5W-50 costs approx $NZ 12.50 per litre --  
more

than twice the price of discounted Shell Helix Diesel ($NZ 5.00 per litre)
-- I'd have to double the change interval to break even. I suppose the
saving in filter costs would help ($NZ 30 a filter), and long-term, the
engine would be better off.

Any advice would be appreciated.


Euan

1985 300TD 5-spd manual
199K miles

1990 Toyota Hilux D/cab 4WD
139K km
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[MBZ] 1974 240D

2005-11-14 Thread Tom Scordato
Anyone interested in a 1974 240D, I think has around 70-90K.  Body in good 
shape. Located in Philly area.  I test drove it.  Some minor things but with 
a little tlc could be a very good daily driver.  Real nice condition for a 
115.


If you are interested email me direct and I will hook you up.  I was going 
to by but settled on a 123 chassis four banger.


Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA
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Thanks - I will try the local sources.

On 11/14/05, Rusty Cullens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

$1.70, probably cheaper to get locally.


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Re: [MBZ] 1974 240D

2005-11-15 Thread Tom Scordato

Auto matic
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1974 240D



stick shift or automatic?

On 11/14/05, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


What's the asking price?

On 11/14/05, Tom Scordato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Anyone interested in a 1974 240D, I think has around 70-90K. Body in
good
> shape. Located in Philly area. I test drove it. Some minor things but
with
> a little tlc could be a very good daily driver. Real nice condition for
a
> 115.
>
> If you are interested email me direct and I will hook you up. I was
going
> to by but settled on a 123 chassis four banger.
>
> Regards Tom Scordato
> Bellefonte PA
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty - fuel thermostat part availability?
>
>
> > Thanks - I will try the local sources.
> >
> > On 11/14/05, Rusty Cullens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> $1.70, probably cheaper to get locally.
> >>
> > --
> > OK Don, KD5NRO
> > Norman, OK
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Re: [MBZ] Help

2005-11-15 Thread Tom Scordato

Rusty Smells because this car is not a diesel (sorry could not resist)

Do I get 10% of for being a wise &^%$#?

Cheers Tom Scordato
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Good idea Adrian. So it is. 10% off any order to the man that helps me
solve this soon. The vent line that you had bad was located where?

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Well my 68 250 had a bad vent line connection and so it reeked of gas in
the
tank and I didn't notice until it snuck into the cockpit and made me
start
looking. But that was really odd I thought. I wonder if I would have
been
arrested in California with a car so old that the fuel tank had a vent
line
to (gasp) the outdoor air! 


I think you should offer a 10% discount to the person who can guess the
problem. That way everyone will give it their full attention! ;^)

Adrian Murphy

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Well, I'll be damned. I need help. My W108 1969 280SEL smells horribly
of fuel in the cockpit, but there are no leaks anywhere to be found.
Anybody ever experience this? Clogged air filter maybe?


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[MBZ] 1974 240D Philly area

2005-11-16 Thread Tom Scordato
This is the one I went and looked at before I settled on my 79 240D (just 
can not part with 123)


See or do a search on Big Lot

http://www.thebiglot.com/ad_auto.asp?WI=945342612&MK=MERCEDES%20BENZ&MD=240D&PN=1&AT=1&;

Car is still for sale, guy called me today he would reduce price.  Might be 
worth a look see, I think the tranny made need work or some vacuum 
adjustments if applicable for that model.  If you are looking for a 115 
chassis this is pretty nice very very little if any rust., I drove her not 
bad, but needs some work, minor stuff as these cars always need.


Regards Tom

Body is in very good shape,
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What's the asking price?

On 11/14/05, Tom Scordato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Anyone interested in a 1974 240D, I think has around 70-90K. Body in good
shape. Located in Philly area. I test drove it. Some minor things but 
with

a little tlc could be a very good daily driver. Real nice condition for a
115.

If you are interested email me direct and I will hook you up. I was going
to by but settled on a 123 chassis four banger.

Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty - fuel thermostat part availability?


> Thanks - I will try the local sources.
>
> On 11/14/05, Rusty Cullens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> $1.70, probably cheaper to get locally.
>>
> --
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> Norman, OK
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Re: [MBZ] 1974 240D Philly area

2005-11-16 Thread Tom Scordato

stick shift or automatic?


Automatic


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Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1974 240D



stick shift or automatic?

On 11/14/05, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


What's the asking price?

On 11/14/05, Tom Scordato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Anyone interested in a 1974 240D, I think has around 70-90K. Body in
good
> shape. Located in Philly area. I test drove it. Some minor things but
with
> a little tlc could be a very good daily driver. Real nice condition for
a
> 115.
>
> If you are interested email me direct and I will hook you up. I was
going
> to by but settled on a 123 chassis four banger.
>
> Regards Tom Scordato
> Bellefonte PA
> - Original Message -
> From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty - fuel thermostat part availability?
>
>
> > Thanks - I will try the local sources.
> >
> > On 11/14/05, Rusty Cullens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> $1.70, probably cheaper to get locally.
> >>
> > --
> > OK Don, KD5NRO
> > Norman, OK
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[MBZ] MB Nice 1979 300D for Sale South Jersey

2005-11-16 Thread Tom Scordato
No Affiliation, no kick backs just passing this on for the good of the list

I test drove this car a while back.  One of the nicest 300Ds I have seen on 
east coast.  Maintained and records are at MB dealer in Philly area I forget 
which one but I did speak to them.  Guy who owns it now, Joe is the second 
owner.  Car is pristine. Interior is one of the best I have seen, folks who 
owned it must of weighed 100 lbs or less.   If I did not just buy a 240 D and 
own a 300D, I would probablly make an offer.  The only thing off was engine 
compartment needed detailing.  Has a two tone paint job.  No rust that I saw. I 
have pictures  if you want email me off line and I will forward them on.   
Miles are original.

Here is his recent message to me.  

"The 1979 300D has 93000 original miles. It is equipped with Power sun roof, 
auto, 5 cyl.diesel, p. windows, p. Locks, original Becker stereo, Power 
antenna, Auto air conditioning (working perfectly), Nail Guard tires in new 
condition. Selling priced to move at 6500.00. Please call me at 609-707-6050 , 
email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] for any additional info.Pictures attached."

Again I have no affiliation but it would be nice to see this go to someone who 
needs a good daily driver and can keep this bear going.  Sure beats paying for 
a new or used disposal car.

Feel free to contact him.  I think he would let it go for 5K maybe less if you 
pushed it.  His wife is on him to get it the *&&%% out of there.  (women do not 
like these cars much)  Real nice example of a 123 chassis 300D, real nice.

Regards Tom Scordato


[MBZ] The old toe flick

2005-11-17 Thread Tom Scordato


1977 300D Have an accelortor pedal or linkgage that is getting stuck in high 
fire.  Will trouble shoot soon .  Any suggestions besides the "toe flick" to 
release it?  Cheers Tom Scordato 






Re: [MBZ] How far can you drive a diesel with faiIed charging sys?

2005-11-17 Thread Tom Scordato
If you turn everything hvac/electrical off and you do not need any lights or 
radio, a fairly long time...
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Unless it is really dark out - that may limit how far one gets.

Randy

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'Til it's out of fuel.

Wilton

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[MBZ] Noise, Speedo????

2005-11-21 Thread Tom Scordato
Car is a 1979 240 D with 75K.  Drove it this week end and it develped a 
noise around 35 mph might be coming from instrument cluster.  Kind of a high 
to midrange noise. Once car drops below 35 mph and is rolling with no load 
on the engine, Noise stops.  Noise is independent of fuel throttle and not 
an engine or tranny noise.I do not think it is brakes or a bad inner and 
outer bearing on the front wheels which is the first thing that popped into 
my head.


Anyone ever had this happen?  My thoughts are maybe the odometer needs 
service or the speedo cable is getting fried.  I have had a speedo cable go 
on my 1977 but it was working one second, stopped the next.


Your thoughts please.

Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA 






[MBZ] Tires 123 240D

2005-11-21 Thread Tom Scordato
Anyone recommend tires real quick.  All highway driving, all season radials 
a must.  I Cruise at 65 to 72 mph pretty steady.  0-60mph  in about an hour.


Thanks Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA
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Re: [MBZ] odometer skipping

2005-11-24 Thread Tom Scordato
Try pushing the trip to zero a few times.  If this does not bring her back 
will have to remove and overhaul.  Not a hard job.  There are some DIY links 
on how to do it (I do not have them handy but have seen them) or you can 
send to Overseas Speedometer and for about $50-$70 hey can do it plus 
shipping.


Regards Tom Scordato
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Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 11:13 PM
Subject: [MBZ] odometer skipping


This evening as I drove off in my 82 240D, I heard for the first time a 
periodic clicking type sound coming from the instrument cluster. In 
checking,  I found that the trip odometer wasn't turning. I'm guessing 
some gear wheel is not engaged properly with whatever it is supposed to 
turn. What is the action to take to correct this?  Am I further damaging 
it by continuing to drive? Should I disconnect the speedometer cable to 
avoid further damage? I cut short my trip and went directly back home, so 
I don't know if this is affecting the main odometer. Looking for a 
solution.  Thanks in advance.


Jerry
82 240D
Beginning to fall apart


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[MBZ] Speedo No a go go

2005-11-25 Thread Tom Scordato

Happy Thanksgiving

car is a 1977 300D.  Been about 50k miles a little over a year since I 
changed out speedo cable.


Got in car this morn and going down road noticed nothing happened.  No 
speed, no trip odometer (tried zeroing in) movement, no main mileage 
odometer movement.  This was right after starting the vehicle.  We had a 
wicked yankee clipper come through  yesterday so I figured maybe things 
froze up.  Got the cabin nice and toasty and ran the piss out of the car on 
the express way for about 15 miles.  No go.


Symptoms seem to indicate speedo cable.  Do they only last 50k miles.  Last 
time I did the cable I had the odometer sent off to have serviced.  Any 
thoughts please.


Regards Tom Scordato
1977 300D 262K miles
1979 240D 26K miles 






Re: [MBZ] Clock Help

2005-11-28 Thread Tom Scordato

Overseas Speedometer fixes them or used units are often up on eBay.

Regards Tom Scordato
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From: "Vernon Ritchey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 12:54 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Clock Help


The clock in my 82 300SD finally quit.  From initial inspection, it 
appears that the resistor just abobe the crystal is cooked.  Can anyone 
advise how to proceed?  Id the cooked resistor the problem or just a 
symptom of some other problem?  Does anyone have a schematic?  Are these 
things DYI fixable or do I need to send it somewhere?  Any help 
appreciated.



Scott Ritchey, Kittrell, NC
1982 300 SD 225K miles
1979 300 TD 355K miles
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Re: [MBZ] Clock Help

2005-11-28 Thread Tom Scordato

Sorry forgot the web site for Overseas Speedo
Talk to Rick or James
1-800-444-0292

http://www.speedometer.com/index.html
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Overseas Speedometer fixes them or used units are often up on eBay.

Regards Tom Scordato
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Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 12:54 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Clock Help



The clock in my 82 300SD finally quit.  From initial inspection, it
appears that the resistor just abobe the crystal is cooked.  Can anyone
advise how to proceed?  Id the cooked resistor the problem or just a
symptom of some other problem?  Does anyone have a schematic?  Are these
things DYI fixable or do I need to send it somewhere?  Any help
appreciated.


Scott Ritchey, Kittrell, NC
1982 300 SD 225K miles
1979 300 TD 355K miles
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Re: [MBZ] Cold Weather Get In and Go

2005-11-29 Thread Tom Scordato

Curt said

"To do that I lug a 110ah battery down to the car."

Curt I take it you use too batteries to start the car?  Just wondering

Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA
1977 300D 262K
1979 240D 76K
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Hi Bob,

 Interestingly on my 240D anyway as soon as you turn the key to on the 
temp needle comes off the cold peg
 If its very cold, like below 0F I'll use the block heater. To do that I 
lug a 110ah battery down to the car. So after the car is started I'll let 
it idle while I hike the battery back upstairs and put it on the charger. 
Then I'll usually have another cup of coffee before heading to work. 
Marshall's contention about not letting the car idle is mostly because of 
carbon build up. Since I have a 80 mile roundtrip highway commute I'm not 
real worried about carbon buildup. One time 2 winters ago the glowplugs on 
Hammie failed so I left him running at work all day. (it was 10F, he'd 
never have started without glowplugs)


 -Curt
 '83 240D "Hammie" 248kmi

 Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:07:44 -0700
From: "Bob Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [MBZ] Cold Weather Get In and Go
To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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We were having discussions today at the old nuke plant about cold
weather starting (well...cold by our standards [39 degrees]). Some were
saying as soon as one sees oil pressure, you can take off like a scalded
dog...both for gassers and diesels. Others say let it warm until it's off
the cold peg. Dr. Booth has always said MB diesels were not intended to
idle for more than a couple of minutes. Since it very seldom gets cold
here, I've forgotten. When I lived in IL back in the day, I just
plugged in my 220D each night when it was cold and the temp gauge was 
always

off the cold peg.
What's the deal?

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 144K
Litchfield Park, AZ



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Re: [MBZ] Cold Weather Get In and Go

2005-11-30 Thread Tom Scordato
Curt, I see, I see very thoughful with the Marine Battery.   You doing that 
is truely "love".


I travel allot in sales and some times I stay at hotels in the Northeast, 
New England/Upstate NY area.   When I check into a hotel, I ask for the spot 
for the "handicapped car" which translates into I need an outdoor 110 volt 
plug for my 1977 300D and my 100 foot extention cord.


I find myself always looking where there are 110 volt outdoor plug ins near 
parking lots and other areas as I travel.  Funny how that goes


Regards Tom Scordato
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold Weather Get In and Go


Nope, I use the marine battery to power the block heater. Technically I 
use the battery to power an inverter to power the heater but you get the 
idea.
 3rd floor walkup, my apartment is on the other side of the building. 
We're looking to buy a condo with parking lot exposure so I don't have to 
do this any more.


 -Curt

 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:39:10 -0500
From: "Tom Scordato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold Weather Get In and Go
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Curt said

"To do that I lug a 110ah battery down to the car."

Curt I take it you use too batteries to start the car?  Just wondering

Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA
1977 300D 262K
1979 240D 76K



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[MBZ] E 300 305K miles

2005-11-30 Thread Tom Scordato
A business associate of mine has a 1992 E 300 MB gasser for sale will let go 
cheap.  He has no idea how much it is worth so it is a  "make an offer type 
thing".  Car is in NC.


I know nothing about these cars, I do not even know if the model I have 
given is correct. I have not pictures.  Car I have been told is in really 
shape.  Owner of vehicle is the president of an energy recovery and process 
water equipment manufacturer he is second owner.


If interested email me off line and I can give you his contact info.  I have 
no affiliation.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Regards Tom Scordato






Re: [MBZ] E 300 305K miles

2005-11-30 Thread Tom Scordato

Larry T is reported to have said>

"Also, with 305k what kind of work has been done to the engine & tranny?  If

it were a diesel it *might* be on the original engine, but I doubt a gasser

would"




I know nothing about these cars whether they last 40,000 miles or 900,000 
miles.  Like you Larry, I am still in the last century with the 617.9 four 
and five banger non turbo diesels. If anyone are interested in going back 
and forth with the seller contact me off line, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I believe 
drive train is original though.  Like you Larry, I am still in the last 
century with the 617.9 four and five banger non turbo diesels.  thanks Larry 
T.


Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA
1977 300D 261K miles
1979 240D 76K miles

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Tom,  You wrote:<
shape.>>


Is that really "good" or really "bad"? ;-)

Also, with 305k what kind of work has been done to the engine & tranny? 
If
it were a diesel it *might* be on the original engine, but I doubt a 
gasser

would.

Sincerely,
Larry T (78 240D)
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A business associate of mine has a 1992 E 300 MB gasser for sale will let
go
cheap.  He has no idea how much it is worth so it is a  "make an offer
type
thing".  Car is in NC.

I know nothing about these cars, I do not even know if the model I have
given is correct. I have not pictures.  Car I have been told is in really
shape.  Owner of vehicle is the president of an energy recovery and
process
water equipment manufacturer he is second owner.

If interested email me off line and I can give you his contact info.  I
have
no affiliation.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [MBZ] What about this schtict?

2005-12-01 Thread Tom Scordato

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Re: [MBZ] cold day reflections on owning a diesel

2005-12-02 Thread Tom Scordato

LT Don said

"father of a girl going off to the prom, asking for a set of
wheels. A Sprinter is the wrong choice!"

Yeah I just bought a 240D for my girls who are coming of age.   The non 
turbo 300D was just too fast


At least it is candy apple red... (they hate it and may never rive it too 
"retro")


Tom Scordato
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1979 240D 76k













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From: "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold day reflections on owning a diesel


I think I remember being 32. I was flying Beechcraft T-34's upside down 
over

Florida and Alabama. No, that was when I was 31. Oh, I can't remember --
probably living in New York City (Governors Island).

Anyway, I agree with your philosophy -- drive them until the cops yank you
off of the road.

As for the Sprinter for the daughters: I've already told you this, you 
have
not yet been the father of a girl going off to the prom, asking for a set 
of

wheels. A Sprinter is the wrong choice!

D.

On 12/2/05, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


That's my answer too. "If I don't wreck it, I  don't plan on ever buying
another car again." True, I'm only 32, but  I'll probably follow the 
family

pattern and die young.







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[MBZ] cold day reflections on owning a diesel

2005-12-03 Thread Tom Scordato

Dave Brodbeck wrote:
"DAMN STRAIGHT!  When I was in high school I got whatever car the other
family members didn't want to drive anymore -- first a rusty '87 Ford
Aerostar 5-speed, then an '85 Ford Crown Victoria with faded paint and a
slashed vinyl top.  I didn't care how old or ugly they were, I was just
glad to have something to drive"

When I was in high I did not have a car not many of us did.  Dave, least you 
had the 1985 crown vic and the space shuttle astrovan to put around in. You 
were doing real well.  Heck my  wife and kid family car was a 1989 Mercury 
Marcquee (sp)  (ah the woody one of the best cars to roll out of Mo town) up 
until 2003.  I am sure folks older than me can remember much harder times 
still than the premadonna stuff I am spewing.


With my present economic situation and profession which is decent thank God, 
letting the girls learn on a car which cost $2,000 I do not look upon as a 
big thing when the heavy hitters in Greenwich Conn. are buying their kids 
$80,000 Lexus's.  I and my girls are not too "blanking" picky at all.  If I 
were I would not be driving a car which is almost 30 years old and doing 
much of the work my self.  I would be driving a disposable rock climber like 
most of my peers.  On the contrary, I consider myself  and my kids just the 
opposite of picky.  I am Spartan and pretty retro.  With a little 
Great-Depression attitude sprinkled in to keep me honest.


That is this coal-cracker's 2 cents, nuff said.
Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA























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Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold day reflections on owning a diesel



Mike Canfield wrote:

KIDS   TOO FUCKING PICKY!  Who gives a fuck what color it is.What
other kids get a Benz given to them?  They should be grateful and ask how
much extra they need to work to earn a new paintjob in the color of THIER
choice, even if that color IS terrible.



DAMN STRAIGHT!  When I was in high school I got whatever car the other
family members didn't want to drive anymore -- first a rusty '87 Ford
Aerostar 5-speed, then an '85 Ford Crown Victoria with faded paint and a
slashed vinyl top.  I didn't care how old or ugly they were, I was just
glad to have something to drive.


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Re: [MBZ] cold day reflections on owning a diesel

2005-12-03 Thread Tom Scordato

Don oh that WV Bitumonous coal, golden nice stuff!!!/Tom
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Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold day reflections on owning a diesel



Tom:

I grew up around coal crackers. They were all driving old Jeeps so they
could get to the cateye shift at the Consolidated Coal #x.

Don
formerly of Farimont WV

On 12/3/05, Tom Scordato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




That is this coal-cracker's 2 cents, nuff said.
Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA























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Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold day reflections on owning a diesel


> Mike Canfield wrote:
>> KIDS   TOO FUCKING PICKY!  Who gives a fuck what color it
is.What
>> other kids get a Benz given to them?  They should be grateful and ask
how
>> much extra they need to work to earn a new paintjob in the color of
THIER
>> choice, even if that color IS terrible.
>>
>
> DAMN STRAIGHT!  When I was in high school I got whatever car the other
> family members didn't want to drive anymore -- first a rusty '87 Ford
> Aerostar 5-speed, then an '85 Ford Crown Victoria with faded paint and 
> a

> slashed vinyl top.  I didn't care how old or ugly they were, I was just
> glad to have something to drive.
>
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Re: [MBZ] cold day reflections on owning a diesel

2005-12-03 Thread Tom Scordato
Times were tough.  Now people are no longer amazed by indoor 
plumbingwhat a shame...
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Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold day reflections on owning a diesel



You didn't even have indoor plumbing, did you?  I can still remember homes
with outhouses, and I was born in the early 50s.

On 12/3/05, Harry Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Tom Wrote"

"I am sure folks older than me can remember much harder times
still than the premadonna stuff I am spewing."

Do any of you remember when all headlights were required to have the top
half of the lens blacked out?

We probably had it bad but didn't realize it.  Many families did not have
a
car, the ones that did shared.

Harry Watkins
Newton, MS
86 SDL Silver
85 300D Euro
86 SDL Gold
81 240D manual trans





>
> When I was in high I did not have a car not many of us did.  Dave, 
> least

you
> had the 1985 crown vic and the space shuttle astrovan to put around in.
You
> were doing real well.  Heck my  wife and kid family car was a 1989
Mercury
> Marcquee (sp)  (ah the woody one of the best cars to roll out of Mo
town)
up
> until 2003.  I am sure folks older than me can remember much harder
times
> still than the premadonna stuff I am spewing.
>
> With my present economic situation and profession which is decent thank
God,
> letting the girls learn on a car which cost $2,000 I do not look upon 
> as

a
> big thing when the heavy hitters in Greenwich Conn. are buying their
kids
> $80,000 Lexus's.  I and my girls are not too "blanking" picky at
all.  If
I
> were I would not be driving a car which is almost 30 years old and 
> doing

> much of the work my self.  I would be driving a disposable rock climber
like
> most of my peers.  On the contrary, I consider myself  and my kids just
the
> opposite of picky.  I am Spartan and pretty retro.  With a little
> Great-Depression attitude sprinkled in to keep me honest.
>
> That is this coal-cracker's 2 cents, nuff said.
> Regards Tom Scordato
> Bellefonte PA



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[MBZ] if, after months, nobody will bid on car at $750 does this dude think somebody will buy it now?

2005-12-03 Thread Tom Scordato

Kaleb, How can this guy call it a 300   "D".  The d is gone man/Tom
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dude think somebody will buy it now?




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Re: [MBZ] cold day reflections on owning a diesel

2005-12-03 Thread Tom Scordato

Harry said
"We probably had it bad but didn't realize it.  Many families did not have a
car, the ones that did shared."



Amen Harry, Amen
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From: "Harry Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold day reflections on owning a diesel



Tom Wrote"

"I am sure folks older than me can remember much harder times
still than the premadonna stuff I am spewing."

Do any of you remember when all headlights were required to have the top
half of the lens blacked out?

We probably had it bad but didn't realize it.  Many families did not have 
a

car, the ones that did shared.

Harry Watkins
Newton, MS
86 SDL Silver
85 300D Euro
86 SDL Gold
81 240D manual trans







When I was in high I did not have a car not many of us did.  Dave, least

you

had the 1985 crown vic and the space shuttle astrovan to put around in.

You
were doing real well.  Heck my  wife and kid family car was a 1989 
Mercury

Marcquee (sp)  (ah the woody one of the best cars to roll out of Mo town)

up

until 2003.  I am sure folks older than me can remember much harder times
still than the premadonna stuff I am spewing.

With my present economic situation and profession which is decent thank

God,
letting the girls learn on a car which cost $2,000 I do not look upon as 
a

big thing when the heavy hitters in Greenwich Conn. are buying their kids
$80,000 Lexus's.  I and my girls are not too "blanking" picky at all.  If

I

were I would not be driving a car which is almost 30 years old and doing
much of the work my self.  I would be driving a disposable rock climber

like

most of my peers.  On the contrary, I consider myself  and my kids just

the

opposite of picky.  I am Spartan and pretty retro.  With a little
Great-Depression attitude sprinkled in to keep me honest.

That is this coal-cracker's 2 cents, nuff said.
Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA




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[MBZ] cold day reflections on owning a diesel

2005-12-04 Thread Tom Scordato

Christopher said:

"The depression certainly  created a mindset in that generation and it is 
unfortunately lost in my  generation."


Good stories Christopher

yeah and when they are all gone forever this country will never be the same. 
We have become a nation afraid of our own shawdow...


Case in point all the TV adds for drugs which say  "Ask your doctor about so 
and so.."  My parents would have


A) not worried about it
B) waited for the doctor to prescribe it only as a last resort.

Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefone PA.
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To: "Harry Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes mailing list" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold day reflections on owning a diesel


on the other extreme: my four year old, when in a  1991 Toyota Tercel asked 
(with hand on the window crank), "What is this  TURNY thing?"


 My Gramma (SW PA, NW W.Va) chewed road tar for gum, had their stove 
repossesed by Sears & Roebuck (while in use!), and her brothers  pushed coal 
off of moving trains, hopped off and collected it. One of  the brothers is 
now a millionaire but that's becuase he worked four  jobs his whole life and 
never spent a penny. The depression certainly  created a mindset in that 
generation and it is unfortunately lost in my  generation. My grandfather 
can BARELY pass a TV on the side of the road  without pulling the copper 
coil out of the back (and he is by no means  poor)...just what happens to 
people who nearly starve to death.


 Chris

Harry Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  When you were born, I was a 
Marine without indoor plumbing in Korea.

Growing up, we moved into a house with plumbing when I was in the 2nd grade.

Harry Watkins
Newton, MS
86 SDL Silver
85 300D Euro
86 SDL Gold
81 240D manual trans

- Original Message - 
From: "LT Don"



You didn't even have indoor plumbing, did you?  I can still remember homes
with outhouses, and I was born in the early 50s.

On 12/3/05, Harry Watkins  wrote:
>
> Tom Wrote"
>
> "I am sure folks older than me can remember much harder times
> still than the premadonna stuff I am spewing."
>
> Do any of you remember when all headlights were required to have the top
> half of the lens blacked out?
>
> We probably had it bad but didn't realize it.  Many families did not

have

> a
> car, the ones that did shared.
>
> Harry Watkins




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-1985 300SD, 210K, "Wulf"
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[MBZ] The Mystery is Gone !!!

2005-12-06 Thread Tom Scordato

Last year I was trying to figure out

A) if I have 110volt power to my block heater extention cord at the block 
heater plug.  That is easy a $5.00 light up plug circuit tester.  But that 
only says you have power, not that the heater is infact working.


B) if I have 110 power to the block heater plug how do I know I am in fact 
drawing power the the heater itself right then so it can impart its heat to 
the block coolant.


I can listen for a quite "hiss".  I can come back out in an hour or two and 
feel the thermosate housing on the engine.  I can turn the ignition on in an 
hour or two


or you can http://www.elliotlake.com/plugrite/

Thought this was neat.  It actually tells that you have power and the heater 
is actually drawing power.  Now as if only there were more public outlets in 
parking lots when car has to be left for long hours??


Regards
Tom Scordato
1977 300D 261Kmiles
1979 240D 76K miles 






Re: [MBZ] 300D, 1975

2005-12-07 Thread Tom Scordato
Looks like the engine valve cover and compressor have been spray painted, 
could be wron though..
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Wonder if it's Armor All..

Still, this is by far the nicest 115 300D I've seen in a long time.


On 12/6/05, Lee Levitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Bob writes:

> That looks nice...however it looks like the interior has been
> sprayed with vasoline.

There was a short period of time in the late '70s or maybe early '80s
where
the hot tip for keeping dash vinyl intact was to coat it with baby oil.
Guess this seller didn't hear that it didn't work...

Also, while the car does look nice, it also looks like it's been
resprayed.

Lee

>
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] The Mystery is Gone !!!

2005-12-07 Thread Tom Scordato

Hans said

"Ohm's Law: Volts sqare/Watts = Ohms
 or Volts/Amps = Ohms"

Yeah that is all good.  But I want something that can tell me is the block 
heater working, ie drawing power and getting juice when it is 5 below zero 
F, the wind is blowing 30mph, my bag ass is frozen, no feelings in my 
fingers, I have to get up at 1:00AM to drive 500 miles one way to Boston, or 
Chicago.  Then I need to stay in a hotel, haul out my 100 foot extention 
cord and do it all again and pray there is an outdoor outlet within 100 
feet.  So playing with lights in series, playing with electric meters at 
home, or calculating things is just not as practical as a little $20 widget 
you plug in in series and it tells you.


A) you got juice  B) you are actually drawing power at the heater.

Regards Tom Scordato
1977 300D 261K miles
1979 240D 76K miles


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Ohm's Law: Volts sqare/Watts = Ohms
 or Volts/Amps = Ohms


On 12/6/05, Hans Neureiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Shut everything off in the hause, refrigerator, alarm clock and all, and
see if the meter is still runnung.
One easy way to figure if the heater is OK is to put a $ 5 Ohmeter to it
and to apply Ohm's Law.
--
Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX
'82 300SD, '95 E300D

On 12/6/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Jim Cathey wrote:
> >> I can listen for a quiet "hiss".  I can come back out in an hour or
> >> two and
> >> feel the thermostat housing on the engine.  I can turn the ignition
> on
> >> in an
> >> hour or two
> >
> > You can also use the common (and cheap) multimeter to measure
> > the current to the plug, though that may require a jumper wire
> > or two and some care as not to electrocute yourself.
> >
> > Or for even less expense, though more electrocution risk, you
> > hook a light bulb in series with your plug and see if it lights
> > up.
>
> Plugging the block heat in or disconnecting it in the dark USUALLY 
> draws

> a sufficient arc to be detectable.
>
> Marshall
> --
>  Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
>   "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[MBZ] The Mystery is Gone !!!

2005-12-07 Thread Tom Scordato


now that is what I am talking about!, Thanks Dave/Tom



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94 S350, 99 E300


On 12/7/05, Tom Scordato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hans said

"Ohm's Law: Volts sqare/Watts = Ohms
  or Volts/Amps = Ohms"

Yeah that is all good.  But I want something that can tell me is the 
block
heater working, ie drawing power and getting juice when it is 5 below 
zero

F, the wind is blowing 30mph, my bag ass is frozen, no feelings in my
fingers, I have to get up at 1:00AM to drive 500 miles one way to Boston, 
or

Chicago.  Then I need to stay in a hotel, haul out my 100 foot extention
cord and do it all again and pray there is an outdoor outlet within 100
feet.  So playing with lights in series, playing with electric meters at
home, or calculating things is just not as practical as a little $20 
widget

you plug in in series and it tells you.

A) you got juice  B) you are actually drawing power at the heater.

Regards Tom Scordato
1977 300D 261K miles
1979 240D 76K miles


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From: "Hans Neureiter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Mystery is Gone !!!


> Ohm's Law: Volts sqare/Watts = Ohms
>  or Volts/Amps = Ohms
>
>
> On 12/6/05, Hans Neureiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Shut everything off in the hause, refrigerator, alarm clock and all, 
>> and

>> see if the meter is still runnung.
>> One easy way to figure if the heater is OK is to put a $ 5 Ohmeter to 
>> it

>> and to apply Ohm's Law.
>> --
>> Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX
>> '82 300SD, '95 E300D
>>
>> On 12/6/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Jim Cathey wrote:
>> > >> I can listen for a quiet "hiss".  I can come back out in an hour 
>> > >> or

>> > >> two and
>> > >> feel the thermostat housing on the engine.  I can turn the 
>> > >> ignition

>> > on
>> > >> in an
>> > >> hour or two
>> > >
>> > > You can also use the common (and cheap) multimeter to measure
>> > > the current to the plug, though that may require a jumper wire
>> > > or two and some care as not to electrocute yourself.
>> > >
>> > > Or for even less expense, though more electrocution risk, you
>> > > hook a light bulb in series with your plug and see if it lights
>> > > up.
>> >
>> > Plugging the block heat in or disconnecting it in the dark USUALLY
>> > draws
>> > a sufficient arc to be detectable.
>> >
>> > Marshall
>> > --
>> >  Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
>> >   "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D
>> > 2.5
>> > turbo 237kmi
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Re: [MBZ] my wife did it!

2005-12-08 Thread Tom Scordato

Chris said  "It warmed my heart. :-)"

good lady...that OM603 oh I mean your wife too!

My wife said (as they often due in New England, she is a Yankee) when I 
brought the first one home, "you are out of your gourd".  Now this time when 
I flew out to Phoenix solo  and drove the 1979 240D cross country 2900 miles 
just for a little road trip she was really blown away.  (the 7000 foot climb 
to Flagstaff blew 25 years worth or carbon out of her) She will not even 
attempt to drive the 123 chassis diesel  "oo it smells..." I think she says.


Regards Tom
Bellefonte PA
1977 300D 261K miles
1979 240D 76K miles
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From: "Christopher McCann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:25 PM
Subject: [MBZ] my wife did it!


11 F in KC -1 with wind chill. She called and  asked "will my car start?" I 
told her if she follows my instructions,  it will. Two minutes later, with 
the OM603 humming in the background,  she called back and pronounced it 
started on the second crank. No block  heater in it, strange for a car that 
was in Iowa its whole life.


 She said, "Well, if it's my car, I better know how to work it."

 It warmed my heart. :-)

 Chris



Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
-2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose"
-1987 300TD, 150K, "Rotkäppchen"
-1985 300SD, 210K, "Wulf"
-1976 240D, ?K, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen)
-1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent
-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger"

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[MBZ] Tires for free

2005-12-08 Thread Tom Scordato

Tires, Two (2) Pirelli P 4000s, P195/70 R 14

Two (2) tires in good shape. Less than 5000 miles on them. FREE for the pair 
you pick up. Tires are all season radials, "Super Touring"  Came off a 1979 
240D.


You come and pick up, you can have em free.  I am not messing with sending 
them.


see http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/pts/114839017.html for photos

Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA






[MBZ] Amsoil verse Mobil 1

2005-12-08 Thread Tom Scordato
I know this has been beat to death,time and time again but I am have trouble 
getting synthetic Mobil 1 for the weight I need at Wally World or the other 
auto places.  I would love to find the M! 5w-40 but can not seem to find it. 
I have been running the 15w-50 M1 extended service now that I cannot get it 
in the standard Synthetic mode, but that is getting tough to get.  Can you 
order non stocked stuff from Wally world web page??


Any one can coment on the AMSOIL Synthetic Heavy Duty Diesel & Marine Motor 
Oil (AME) and how that holds up.  It is a 15w-40 weight.  Anyone have any 
luck with this oil?


Marshall please chime in.  Everything I read is written by AMSOIL so it 
seems somewhat slanted when comparing Mobil 1 in Amsoils favor


Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA 






Re: [MBZ] Amsoil verse Mobil 1

2005-12-08 Thread Tom Scordato

Marshal said

" Tom, Mobil supplies the base stock to Amsoil. The Mobil tribologists

I've talked with are very complementary about Amsoil. They point out
that the Amsoil synthetics are VERY good oil - even better than Mobil
for SOME special applications. It has NO advantage over Mobil for use in
YOUR engine - and it is more expensive than MOBIL.

Mobil 1 15W-50 Ext is fine. I prefer Mobil 1 Truck and SUV 5W-40 because
it's cheaper. Mobil 1 0W-40 is also fine but I'd probably mix 0W-40 and
15W-50 (probably not necessary)."


Thanks Marshall for the information.

It is hard to find the "non extended" oils at Walmart or other suppliers up 
here near State College.  I just changed oil in my 240D with the 15w-50 M1 
extended.  (prevoius owner used only standard oil)


About a year ago Wal-Mart quite carrying the non extended M1 (with the red 
cap) in that weight.  Everything else is 30 weight.  Ah it is ok with the 
price of fuel a few extra $ every oil change will not kill me.


Regards
Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA
1977 300d 261K miles
1979 240D 76K miles

Regards Tom
- Original Message - 
From: "Marshall Booth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil verse Mobil 1



Tom Scordato wrote:
I know this has been beat to death,time and time again but I am have 
trouble
getting synthetic Mobil 1 for the weight I need at Wally World or the 
other
auto places.  I would love to find the M! 5w-40 but can not seem to find 
it.
I have been running the 15w-50 M1 extended service now that I cannot get 
it
in the standard Synthetic mode, but that is getting tough to get.  Can 
you

order non stocked stuff from Wally world web page??

Any one can coment on the AMSOIL Synthetic Heavy Duty Diesel & Marine 
Motor

Oil (AME) and how that holds up.  It is a 15w-40 weight.  Anyone have any
luck with this oil?

 Marshall please chime in.  Everything I read is written by AMSOIL so it
seems somewhat slanted when comparing Mobil 1 in Amsoils favor


Tom, Mobil supplies the base stock to Amsoil. The Mobil tribologists
I've talked with are very complementary about Amsoil. They point out
that the Amsoil synthetics are VERY good oil - even better than Mobil
for SOME special applications. It has NO advantage over Mobil for use in
YOUR engine - and it is more expensive than MOBIL.

Mobil 1 15W-50 Ext is fine. I prefer Mobil 1 Truck and SUV 5W-40 because
it's cheaper. Mobil 1 0W-40 is also fine but I'd probably mix 0W-40 and
15W-50 (probably not necessary).

Marshall
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'87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5
turbo 237kmi

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Re: [MBZ] Tires for free

2005-12-09 Thread Tom Scordato
nuff talk.  Any one want em?  They are free...come and get em.  


Tom
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Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires for free



Good in the snow? Damn. I spent good money on Michelin X-Ice's.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 12/8/05, tom savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

TimothyPilgrim wrote:
> Those are what came on my wagon when I bought it. I wasn't too
> confident in them, but then realized it was the steering box. Anybody
> else running these?

I have on my 300D and was pretty impressed with them.  Ride and handling
were better than any other of the motley cheap tire collection I've used
on the 123, and they were great in the snow.  Didn't last very long, but
I think they're only claimed to be a 40k mile tire.  I'd buy 'em again
(and probably will soon, for the Passat).

Tom

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Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter misadventures

2005-12-10 Thread Tom Scordato

Here is my method

I fill my New canister filter with clean kerosene.  Eliminates the air 
pocket caused by dry filter.  If no kerosene, poor old canister filter 
diesel into the new filter carefully.  The half a pint of unfiltered diesel 
will not hurt you.


Then carefully new filter screw back on.  May still run some what rough but 
usually not.  Helps if car is hot.  I change my in line and canister filters 
every  when I do my lube oil change and that I do after I have run the car 
on highway for 20-30 miles or so.


After change get in have fun and run her like hell.  these old cars are not 
pieces of furniture,  They are best if run on highway continuously.


Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA
1977 300D 262K miles
1979 240D 76K miles
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From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter misadventures


I've only changed the bolt-on filter on a 617 once, but here's how it 
went:

Replaced filter (dry, I don't like to pour unfiltered fuel into the center
where it will go straight to the IP) with the engine hot.
Started car w/ about 1/4 throttle. It started immediately, then began to
misfire. Tried to hold 2000rpm on the tach to keep it from stalling.
After the engine was running smoothly, let it idle a bit, then shut off.
Total strokes on the leaky primer pump = zero.

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Re: [MBZ] W123 limo going cheap

2005-12-11 Thread Tom Scordato
Look in the back ground on one of the photos nice 123 wagons and sedans 
possibly for sale??/Tom



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Yes it could, http://www.w123-world.org/showthread.php?t=293

Hendrik

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On 12/11/05, Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

http://club123d.org/listings/page10.html


Wow, could that possibly be any uglier?

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo

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Re: [MBZ] W123 limo going cheap

2005-12-11 Thread Tom Scordato

Alex Chamberlain wrote:



Wow, could that possibly be any uglier?


this would be right at home in New York City, Northern New Jersey and Long 
Island in the Mid 1980s.  I think I remember seeing this on a sales road 
trip when I wore a younger man's clothes around 1984, must have been on the 
Garden State Parkway...or was it the L. I. E?  The heavy hitters from the 
city eat it up, they love that kind of stuff...


Cheers Tom Scordato 






Re: [MBZ] Radio

2005-12-11 Thread Tom Scordato
Anyone need a nice Blaupunkt cassette am/fm player for their MB contact me 
off line for details.  It works and is just sitting around.


[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA 






Re: [MBZ] Rear Shock Absorbers

2005-12-15 Thread Tom Scordato

Hans said>

"What I was told is if you push the bumper down and let go, it should come 
up

and stay there. If it bounces up and down  - needs new shocks."


Not always the case.  I did this test on my 1977 300D.  Passed with flying 
colors, when I did the push test.   But still drove like trash.  Had old 
monroe shocks on it.  Changed to Bilestiens.  Best thing I ever did.


Regards Tom Scordato
Bellefonte PA
1977 300D
1979 240D
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From: "Hans Neureiter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear Shock Absorbers


What I was told is if you push the bumper down and let go, it should come 
up

and stay there. If it bounces up and down  - needs new shocks.

Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX
'82 300SD, '95 E300D

On 12/13/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


How do you know when to replace the shocks ?  Does anybody ever just keep
the orginals ?--


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[MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread Tom Scordato
Wal-Mart- Number 1 employer in the United States.  Used to be GM I believe 
for many years.


We used to make/sell products we and the world consumed.  Now we just 
consume the cheapest product we can.  We are consumer whores with no regard 
for where this stuff is made, thus the evolution over the last 50 years to a 
"service economy"


You can not last long as a 1st world nation unless you produce and 
manufacture products the world needs.  You end up in dept.   We are in 
goverment fiscal dept and a major trade debt.   And that is what we have. 
We are the number 1 debtor nation on earth I believe..  I just hope the 
nations we are borrowing money from do not call us on these loans.


This and our energy crisis are probably two of the worst problems facing 
this country.


Regards Tom Scordato















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From: "paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto



liar?  dunno - i don't know you personally - you very well could be.

you are not the majority.  the average small-town citizen enjoys the
convenience of a Wal-Mart in or near their town.

i'm not fooling anyone, btwas long as i'm paying for the livelihood
of people that choose to sit on their ass and not work, i'm not living
in a free society.

p.

Mitch Haley wrote:


paul wrote:



if that's so (which it's not), the communities obviously complied.  it's
not just the faceless corporate monolith that is getting it's
way...people want those stores in their communities.




You callin' me a liar, pardner? Walmart has done exactly as I claimed.
I don't know how many times they have done it, but I do know they
have done it once.
And yes, such crimes require the complicity of a few elected officials,
but that does not make it right.
I don't care if every other citizen of these United States wants
a Wally World on my land, it's my land, not theirs. If the basic
right to own what you own gets tossed out (and a 5-4 majority of
the supreme court did just that last year), you are only fooling
yourself if you think you live in a free society.






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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread Tom Scordato

"Sure, and a department manager can make a whopping $10/hr."


I guess my question is, can Wal-Mart afford to pay their employees 2 , 3, 4, 
5 times as much with all the bennys?  Will their economic model support it 
and the dudes at the top still stay rich or at least have a decent income? 
If they can then there is a real crime.


If they can not, if there is such a slight margin, then this is the way the 
economies of scale will level out to.  It is a free market society. 
Although my personal jury is still out on Wal-Mart, few cries are heard when 
Lowes or Home Depot put the local hardware store guy out.  Now one cried 
when the buggy whip guys went under. No one cried when in 1950 we had 20 
major industrial boiler manufactures and now we have three.


The way I see it (and I am not an economic major) is the world we live in is 
global like it or not.  The job field is labor blue and white color is being 
"leveled" (which and until that leveling process emm "levels", expect a 
total decrease in out salaries, benefits, and number of skilled high paying 
jobs).  Couple this with computer technology allowing folks anywhere to do 
anything, and our own suicidal tendencies (nafta, us not buying only 
American  produces 20 - 40 years ago when we could have halted this, high 
cost of medicine, our tendency to be sue happy, pending natural disasters, 
debt, terrorists, shitty work ethic) things will get way worse.  It is a 
very fragile system as Katrina and 9-11 proved.


People will have to become like many of the folks in Maine.  They sell 
things in the summer, do things in the winter, pick crops, fish, work a 
little job here and there.  We have got to become survivors. Like we were in 
the pioneer days.  In college (if you can afford the $20K to $70K per year 
nut and increasing by 6%-12% a year) we should major in a white collar 
things and blue collar things maybe welding or working heavy equipment. 
When one thing goes south, maybe you have the other to fall back on.  The 
day is coming when I am afraid when working at Wal-Mart may be a major 
career move.  I hope not but who knows.  My advise is keep a gun and allot 
of cash on hand.


Regards Tom Scordato





































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From: "Luther Gulseth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto



Sure, and a department manager can make a whopping $10/hr.



~
~from what I understand they pay pretty decent for what sort of job it
~is, and they promote from within.  Its a good way for otherwise
~untrained people to actually get somewhere in life
~



--
Luther   KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (230,xxx kmi)
'82 300CD (158,222 kmi)
'90 300E & '82 300D (parts or run?)

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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread Tom Scordato

Jeff said

"Did you know that the 70% or so of Americans carry a balance on their
credit cards every month? The AVERAGE consumer debt of those carrying a
balance is $9,000!! That's insane!"

Jeff and they do not care at all that is insane!  Fall of the Romans, 
nothing less.


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Guess who's buying most of your new debt??? Hmmm, the very scary China!
No respect for the rule of law!

I did think that Tom's term "consumer whores" was very appropriate.

Did you know that the 70% or so of Americans carry a balance on their
credit cards every month? The AVERAGE consumer debt of those carrying a
balance is $9,000!! That's insane!

Jeff Zedic
Toronto

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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread Tom Scordato

Brian said
"We have just found it to be really annoying and less a nice experience to 
shop there"



Shopping a pleasurable experience?  That is an oxy moron.  I get in I get 
out.  It is torture, does not mater if it is Sachs 5th Ave or Kmart.  Every 
time I have asked for help at the Walmarts in State College PA, I have 
always gotten help as needed.  It is shopping, it is supposed to suck, like 
scrubbing toilets...unlike what allot of women will have you believe it is 
not a sport, it is a pass time...and for me a &^%$ty one,  IMHO


Regards Tom Scordato
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From: "Brian Chase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto



Your'e kidding. Wow. I didn't look at the link yet, but that's shocking to
me - taxpayers picking up health care insurance for these employees. 
Doesn't

seem right at all. I'll chime in here with my opinion since everyone else
is:

I've heard a lot of anti WalMart talk lately in certain circles, and have
assumed that some was justified, some may not be. It is interesting to me,
though, that where one shops seems to say something about them. This 
speaks
to the emerging classism that may be replacing racism in this country 
IMHO.


Kind of interesting for me to observe that there are some people that
frequent WalMart and Burger King, and others that frequent Target and
Panera. I'm certainly not passing blanket judgement on WalMart shoppers -
some of my family and best friends go there, and they're quality folks. We
have just found it to be really annoying and less a nice experience to 
shop

there. But I only have the luxury of saying this since being married to a
woman with a much better career than I have. Were it not for that, I would
be hitting WallyWorld all the time (but late, late at night when folks are
not setting their cretins, er, kids loose in there to tire them out in the
free air conditioning or heat).

Brian


From: David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 00:57:06 -0800

Just ran across this today.  The Washington State government is
subsidizing Wal-Mart to the tune of $12 million a year, by paying for
employee health care:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002791346_walmart07m.html?syndication=rss

The question is, is it really fair for an enormously profitable
corporation to improve their bottom line by pushing the cost of keeping
their employees healthy onto the taxpayers?  They've found a way to
externalize one of the biggest expenses their competitors have.

If a company decided to stop maintaining its truck fleet's condition and
just run them until they broke, we'd say it was stupid. But when a
company like Wal Mart decides to stop "maintaining" their employees'
health and just use them until they go onto public assistance, it's seen
as a brilliant business move and they're rewarded for it.

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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread Tom Scordato

"An economist would say that it will stop when the wages are equalized --
wages in poorer countries will rise, and wages in richer countries will
fall, until they meet in the middle.  If you're an economist, your only
measure of people's well-being is GDP, and by that measure this kind of
trade is actually a beneficial situation overall."

Very true.  But for a country who is used to getting X and to tell them 
(USA) they are going to be evolving into X minus 5000, that puts a real 
strain on their psycic. The greatest generation who survived the great 
depression might could handle this reversal.  My/Xsersand new generations in 
US except for a few, I doubt can.  See they have this entitlement mentality. 
May I dare say were are turning into a two class system (but everyone thinks 
they are rich!!!). Much better for third world people to take if the chart 
is going upword  on their behalf.  But looking out for the interest of 
America which is to be frank where my interets lie very bad for us spoiled 
Americans.


What set this country apart from all others was our ability to establish and 
support a middle class system which had the where with all to 
consume/purchase the products that WE IN THE USA made. It also helped a 
great deal that the rest of the world used to purchase these too.  I believe 
you cannot last long (on paper you can do anything to make it look good, but 
that is false Enron did that well) unless you make and sell products (big 
products, little products all kinds of stuff) which we use/purchase and the 
world does too.  If we do not do this we will fail.


Tom Scordato
















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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think this trend has to stop somewhere - I read recently that white 
collar

jobs were being sent overseas like all the others.


An economist would say that it will stop when the wages are equalized --
wages in poorer countries will rise, and wages in richer countries will
fall, until they meet in the middle.  If you're an economist, your only
measure of people's well-being is GDP, and by that measure this kind of
trade is actually a beneficial situation overall.

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Re: [MBZ] Wipers

2006-02-11 Thread Tom Scordato
Brian I have had Bosch Micro edges up north in PA for almost three years 
same pair on my 77 300D.  I clean once in a while with 303 Aerospace 
protectorant


Just showing signs of wear, but never make that funky noise or skip.  Make 
sure you have no wax on your windshield/Tom
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Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 3:56 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Wipers


What do you guys think of Bosch wipers? I'd always bought Anco just 'cause 
I

was used to 'em, but began to take note of how they begin to streak after
just a couple uses. One night I picked up some Bosches, and they're 
better.
I also recently got talked into buying the  Bosch "platinum" or whatever 
the
more expensive type is because they were offering a free $10 gift card. 
I'm
not sure that I've noticed a difference with the more expensive Bosches 
over

the regular Bosches.

Brian
83 240D

someone - forgot who - wrote:
After seeing someone either here or mercedesshop mention Michelin
wipers, I found them at WalMart today, $5.76 in all sizes up to
24". I bought one to replace a torn wiper on my Taurus. It was
made in USA by Pylon, which has a license to sell wipers under
the Michelin name. I drove home on a wet salty freeway, and can
report that it wiped clean without chatter. I like it better than
the ANCO Aerovantage blades on that car. I'll buy one for the other
side next time I'm in town.

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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-11 Thread Tom Scordato

"David Said
"Just a fact to add to this: The national savings rate last year was
-0.5%.  Credit card debt fell slightly, but only because people were
taking equity out of their homes to pay off their credit cards.  Wages
have not been keeping up with inflation in this economic recovery and
people are getting squeezed"

David we spend to much.  In days past the only things you could get/they 
offered credit on where a mortgage, maybe a car, and maybe some furniture. 
Now we have no control on our spending.  We are consumer whores.  We only 
build big Tosh Mohall homes, not small ones.  We have both parents working 
so we can buy more stuff.  Our parents would have sold the home and rented 
to have a parent home before dropping kids off at a day care.  Or they just 
would have gone without (what a concept, being frugal) Our priorities are 
all screwed up.


Unlike my many of parents group, many do not have he displine to say no. 
Want at any cost. Matter of fact are not I am entitled to it?   I see 
bidding wars for homes,  "Oh you are asking $750,000 for that house, oh I 
will give you $800,000 for it.  Heck in the old days even Rockefeller would 
haggle.  No we do not haggle we BID UP!  As the great Don Henly said in one 
of his songs, "we are a nation of noses pressed up against the glass, we see 
it on the TV we want it pretty fast".  You can not blame corporate America. 
They have always been assholes.  Business is like that small and large.  It 
is not a cozy sene it is the trenches.  But they also feed many folks. 
You/We are the government, and you control the buying.  We have just let it 
all slide in our pursuit of what we as individuals want.  I see Walmat as a 
perfect metamorphosis of this evolution of what we have become as 
consumers/people.  Blaming Walmart is like killing the messenger.  You do 
not like Walmart do not shop there.  Do not like the contract they give you 
find a better one.  If it is so bad for the employees let them form a union 
or quit.  The imigrant coal miners and steel workers of years past had 
little options when they risked their family's welfare by doing the same. 
They had guts and would risk something for the good of the many.


Regards Tom Scordato




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Tom Scordato wrote:

Jeff said

"Did you know that the 70% or so of Americans carry a balance on their
credit cards every month? The AVERAGE consumer debt of those carrying a
balance is $9,000!! That's insane!"

Jeff and they do not care at all that is insane!  Fall of the Romans,
nothing less.


Just a fact to add to this: The national savings rate last year was
-0.5%.  Credit card debt fell slightly, but only because people were
taking equity out of their homes to pay off their credit cards.  Wages
have not been keeping up with inflation in this economic recovery and
people are getting squeezed.

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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Tom Scordato

"One more point - this country's welfare for the rich and large
corporations dwarfs that going to the poor --"

Amen Don, Amen/Tom
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One more point - this country's welfare for the rich and large
corporations dwarfs that going to the poor --

On 2/11/06, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Since I work for one of the welfare agencies, I could drag out all the
numbers, but to keep it simple, you can't get welfare just because you
don't want to work. You have to fake an on-the-job injury to do that,
for any length of time at least. Even then, it's real hard to get the
system doctors to certify you for enough to get any money.

The typical "welfare mom" has been left high and dry with several
small kids by the wage earner of the family - for what ever reason.
She's "on welfare" for 6 months to two years until she gets on her
feet. Daycare for those small children can eat most of her wages,
leaving them with choosing between food and electricity. I'm sure it's
tougher this winter. There are a LOT of irresponsible men out there
who don't think they have a responsibility to support the children
they fathered. Those kids are growing up in neglectful daycare centers
with other kids just like them, a single parent who is exhausted from
trying to work (often more than one job) to feed them. It's no wonder
society is falling apart at the seams - drug money and gangs look like
the only way to survive to these kids, and their numbers are
increasing every year.





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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-12 Thread Tom Scordato

"This ASIC engineer has been out of work since May.  No sign
of hiring in my field, or in related ones I'm probably still
qualified in.  One complication: I will not relocate to some
wretched hell-on-earth like Silicon Valley.  We have acreage,
something you cannot find in a whole lot of places.  _This_
is where we are going to raise our son."

Again my theory about having a white collar skill and a blue collar skill 
such as heavy equipment operator or welding certificate.  Especially us 
rural folks, have to be survivors, like our fore parents. Ditto on not every 
moving to the viper pit areas "some
wretched hell-on-earth like", New York, LA, SF, Boston.  If you do have to 
go there do the weekend warrior thing, leave the kids in a safe spot. 
Remember we own diesels, they love those 600 mile one way trips./ Tom


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But I didn't worry, I had skills, and certifications, and schooling. I
would venture forth and find me work. A week turned to three, then
seven, then 3 months.


This ASIC engineer has been out of work since May.  No sign
of hiring in my field, or in related ones I'm probably still
qualified in.  One complication: I will not relocate to some
wretched hell-on-earth like Silicon Valley.  We have acreage,
something you cannot find in a whole lot of places.  _This_
is where we are going to raise our son.

Pity to hear about Iffy Lube being so picky, I was holding
that prospect in reserve.  I have yet to 'date outside my
species', I suppose I had thought that option always to
be there.  I hope I don't find out otherwise!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-14 Thread Tom Scordato

Lee may have said

"this country are reaping record profits while most of us are seeing our
earnings stagnate or decline"

Just look at the fall of most unions effectiveness and this is one indicator 
that you are indeed right.  We are becoming a two class system.  I give it 
40 maybe 75 years. It will I believe be much like South America.   With the 
influx of people, many who do not care much for the traditions that built 
this country (like learning , wanting to learn and having to learn our 
language for starters)./Tom Scordato
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This reminds me of the logic by which Peru was once touted as a thriving
economy. The average yearly income was around $20,000 per person, which
sounds damn good for a south american country.

On closer investigation, though, that was an average with considerable 
skew -
most Peruvians lived in crushing poverty, with a few ruling families 
reaping

astronomical profits off the country's natural resources, yielding a nice
"average." It was rather like saying that if your feet are frozen in a 
block
of ice and your head is dipped in boiling water you should " on average" 
be

quite comfortable.

Similarly, while our stock markets may be up and our GDP may look good, 
that
may on closer investigation mean that a relatively small number of people 
in

this country are reaping record profits while most of us are seeing our
earnings stagnate or decline.

Lee

On Saturday 11 February 2006 1:41, David Brodbeck wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I think this trend has to stop somewhere - I read recently that white
> collar jobs were being sent overseas like all the others.

An economist would say that it will stop when the wages are equalized --
wages in poorer countries will rise, and wages in richer countries will
fall, until they meet in the middle.  If you're an economist, your only
measure of people's well-being is GDP, and by that measure this kind of
trade is actually a beneficial situation overall.

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Re: [MBZ] Wipers

2006-02-14 Thread Tom Scordato

Pep boys or Mercedessource.com carries them.  No cheap/Tom Scordato
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where can you get them?  Walmart?

Tom Scordato wrote:


Brian I have had Bosch Micro edges up north in PA for almost three years
same pair on my 77 300D.  I clean once in a while with 303 Aerospace
protectorant

Just showing signs of wear, but never make that funky noise or skip. 
Make

sure you have no wax on your windshield/Tom
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 3:56 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Wipers



What do you guys think of Bosch wipers? I'd always bought Anco just 
'cause

I
was used to 'em, but began to take note of how they begin to streak after
just a couple uses. One night I picked up some Bosches, and they're
better.
I also recently got talked into buying the  Bosch "platinum" or whatever
the
more expensive type is because they were offering a free $10 gift card.
I'm
not sure that I've noticed a difference with the more expensive Bosches
over
the regular Bosches.

Brian
83 240D

someone - forgot who - wrote:
After seeing someone either here or mercedesshop mention Michelin
wipers, I found them at WalMart today, $5.76 in all sizes up to
24". I bought one to replace a torn wiper on my Taurus. It was
made in USA by Pylon, which has a license to sell wipers under
the Michelin name. I drove home on a wet salty freeway, and can
report that it wiped clean without chatter. I like it better than
the ANCO Aerovantage blades on that car. I'll buy one for the other
side next time I'm in town.

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Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto

2006-02-14 Thread Tom Scordato

I think MB tex works better than kevlar
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Zeitgeist wrote:

Whoa there Tex, the kevlar reference is a common and largely innocuous
online term used when posting something that could possibly be
perceived as a "flame"--which is yet another online term used to
describe a repudiation of another's stated position, but not generally
considered to be threatening.  Kevlar you see, is flame resistant.


It'd make more sense if you said Nomex.

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[MBZ] MB Tex verses Kevlar

2006-02-14 Thread Tom Scordato
"Often, the majority of the people in the community do NOT want WalMarts, 
but

in order to keep them out, they have to organize and pass popular
initiatives. "

I could be wrong, and it is in these peoples rights to oppose a WalMart just 
like you would a landfill coming into your community,  but  I would harbor 
to guess the folks opposing these are often (and this is a hunch) yuppified 
, ak rich type communities (Greenwich CT for example) who can afford to 
"preserve" their lifestyle. In the east (maybe mid west, south and west can 
chime in), I have heard some of the other folks opposing it are some of the 
towns in New England, who have their noses so far up in the air it blocks 
the sunlight.  Often these towns are on a quest to keep the "original 
beauty" an feel of a quaint village (Many of those New England old towns 
were dumps in the height of the industrial revolution)  Every try to rent or 
buy property near those places?, forget it.  The billionaires are making it 
tough for the millionaires.


My two cents from a coal cracker in Pennsylvania

Regards Tom Scordato





































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From: "lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wal-Mart vs NAPA auto


Is it safe to assume that you support the democratic rights of those in 
the
many communities who have voted to ban Walmart and other big box 
retailers?


Often, the majority of the people in the community do NOT want WalMarts, 
but

in order to keep them out, they have to organize and pass popular
initiatives.

OTOH, nobody has to vote to let a WalMart INTO their community, so the 
idea
that the presence of a WalMart is a manifestation of the democratic 
process

has its flaws, IMO.

Lee

On Monday 13 February 2006 6:42, Potter, Tom E wrote:

I agree with Paul on this. Wal-Mart is in the communities because the
majority of people want them. If the liberals are so keen on democracy,
they should support this. Nobody forces anyone to work at or shop at
Wal-Mart. On the other hand, some folks want to force others NOT to shop
at Wal-Mart.

The masses may be wrong, but if we believe in democracy they have this
right. Otherwise, let us put our cards on the table and admit that we
think some sort of benevolent dictatorship (monarchy, oligarchy,
communism, etc.) would be best for THESE people (Don't forget to exclude
yourself because you think you will be in the ruling class).

Just my 2 cents.

Tom Potter: American

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if that's so (which it's not), the communities obviously complied.  it's

not just the faceless corporate monolith that is getting it's
way...people want those stores in their communities.

the other stupid, stupid argument i hear is the low wages they pay their

employees.  correct me if i'm wrong, but no one is twisting the arms of
wal-mart employees.  if they wanna make more money, then get a job
someplace else.

i have, and will continue to buy M1 there with a perfectly clean
conscience.

p.

Mitch Haley wrote:
>Zeitgeist wrote:
>>Try anarcho-libertarian commie pinko, and no, I don't like WalMart for
>>a variety of reasons.
>
>Does it have anything to do with WalMart asking communities to steal

land

>from property owners and give it to WalMart to build a new SuperStore

on?



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Re: [MBZ] M-1 T&S AWOL @ W/M

2006-02-17 Thread Tom Scordato
Two walmarts in State College PA are taking M1 5/40 off shelves and M1 15/50 
extended off shelves.  Called around to local auto parts.  Advanced Auto 
parts mentioned that Mobil may not be making the synth 5/40 product any more 
going to a 0/40 product.


Regards Tom Scordato
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I think Marshall posted something on this a couple of days ago. It is being
reformulated.

On 2/16/06, Dave M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


HI all,

First, for those of you who actually understood that subject line, you
have my condolences. For the rest of you, the rough translation is:
Mobil-1 Truck & SUV Formula (5W-40) appears to be AWOL at Wall-Mart. I
was there tonight and not only is there none in sight, there's no
longer a spot on the shelf for that variety, either. I didn't see
anything in a 40 or 50 weight at all, but I didn't look that hard for
the 15W-50. Anyone know if Wall-Mart is going to carry the new
'turbo-diesel truck' 5W-40 stuff, which hopefully will be similar to
the previous formula (which was almost identical to Delvac-1)?

:-(

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Re: [MBZ] M-1 T&S AWOL @ W/M

2006-02-17 Thread Tom Scordato
Johnny B asked "Wanna switch to Amsoil?"  Sell me.   How does their heavy 
duty 15/40 diesel synthetic hold up?  Price looks equal and better yet it is 
available without the bate and switch the other suppliers and outlets are 
putting me through.  It comes in 12 quart cases, gallon jugs and up right? 
Regards Tom Scordato






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On Friday, February 17, 2006, at 12:13 PM, Tom Scordato wrote:


Two walmarts in State College PA are taking M1 5/40 off shelves and M1
15/50
extended off shelves.  Called around to local auto parts.  Advanced
Auto
parts mentioned that Mobil may not be making the synth 5/40 product
any more
going to a 0/40 product.

Regards Tom Scordato



Wanna switch to Amsoil?

Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] M-1 T&S AWOL @ W/M - UPDATE

2006-02-17 Thread Tom Scordato
Time to change to Amsoil.  My pig burns too much oil for me not to have a 
reliable source.


Regards Tom Scordato
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From: "Dave M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Joe Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] M-1 T&S AWOL @ W/M - UPDATE



Well, I went to the other Wal-Mart near me, and was overjoyed to find
four 5qt jugs of Truck & SUV Formula on the shelves... at $20/jug! I
grabbed all four, and was about to ask an employee if they had any
more in the back, but thought I'd check for single quarts first. Sure
enough, they had some quart bottles for $5.50, which was a little
pricey for my taste. Then I did a double-take... five double-yew
THIRTY? Say WHAT? I looked at the label on the 20 quarts in my
shopping cart and sure 'nuff, they're all the
too-new-to-be-on-Mobil's-website 5W-30 T&S formula. The label is
identical in appearance to the old stuff, except it now says '30'
instead of '40'.

Curses! Foiled again. Dejectedly, I put it all back on the shelf. They
had nothing at all in either 40 or 50 weight, not even a place on the
shelves. But, they do have the T&S 5W-30... not that I can use that in
any of my cars. I hope I'm not stuck buying genuine Delvac-1 at a
ridiculous $25/gallon once again. So far I haven't seen any sign of
the rumored "turbo diesel truck 5W-40" variety. Hope that's not going
to be a snipe hunt.


***sigh***

-Dave M.



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Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 12:13:50 -0500
From: "Tom Scordato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] M-1 T&S AWOL @ W/M
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Two walmarts in State College PA are taking M1 5/40 off shelves and
M1 15/50 extended off shelves.  Called around to local auto parts.
Advanced Auto parts mentioned that Mobil may not be making the
synth 5/40 product any more going to a 0/40 product.


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Re: [MBZ] M-1 T&S AWOL @ W/M - UPDATE

2006-02-18 Thread Tom Scordato

Rob if I may, my theory


"Tom brings up a point I've often wondered about.
Let's say your pig does burn a lot of oil. How reasonable is it to use
costly synthetic vice dino juice...since neither is staying in the engine
very long?"

I figure the surface to surface real time lubrication that is going on with 
the material used (steel pistons/cylinders and synthetic oil) is what counts 
not how long it stays in there.  I burn about a quart every 1000 miles  +/- 
which for me is around 3 to 5 quarts per month (good news has not gotten any 
worse in the last 90K miles been using synthetics)  I figure with fuel at 
$2.50 a gallon, oil at $6.00 a quart is not so bad if the longevity of the 
engine is increases and keeps me out of buying a new $25K car. I change oil 
and filter every 10,000 miles like religion.  $25K buys allot of oil and 
maintenance.


Tom Scordato




































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From: "Bob Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] M-1 T&S AWOL @ W/M - UPDATE



Tom shared:

"My pig burns too much oil for me not to have a
reliable source."

Tom brings up a point I've often wondered about.
Let's say your pig does burn a lot of oil. How reasonable is it to use
costly synthetic vice dino juice...since neither is staying in the engine
very long?

Bob Rentfro


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[MBZ] Speedometer Freeze up???

2006-02-19 Thread Tom Scordato



About 2 to 3,000 miles ago on my 300D had some trouble with my speedometer 
not working.  I know this drill so I replaced the cable with new (installed 
correctly) and had the speedometer sent out to Overseas Speedometer to have 
it looked at and serviced.  Yesterday with temps around 25 degrees F was out 
on the highway everything worked fine.  Last night temps dropped to 5 
degrees F and when I went out to this morn noticed the needle on zero and no 
little digits going around.


QUESTION:   Can/do/ have any of you experienced the same?  Or am I destined 
to do this drill every few thousand miles?  Two things I can not take.  Not 
knowing how fast I am going or how far I have gone.


Regards
Tom Scordato
1977 300D
1979 240D 






[MBZ] Speedometer Freeze up???

2006-02-19 Thread Tom Scordato



















































Johnny B chimed in and I thank him

"In really cold weather using the wrong lubricant  can cause the cable
to twist, become shorter and fail. There are severe cold wether lubes
available. A snowmobile shop should have something that works."

Do these cables require lubrication?  I heard not in past correspondances. 
Anybody confirm Johnny Bs expereience please?  The cable has gone out at 
3000 miles that is some kind of freaky.  If so I will luber her up but how. 
Just put the jizsm in on the business ends?


Regards Tom Scordato






























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From: "John Berryman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speedometer Freeze up???




On Sunday, February 19, 2006, at 09:48 AM, Tom Scordato wrote:


About 2 to 3,000 miles ago on my 300D had some trouble with my
speedometer
not working.  I know this drill so I replaced the cable with new
(installed
correctly) and had the speedometer sent out to Overseas Speedometer to
have
it looked at and serviced.  Yesterday with temps around 25 degrees F
was out
on the highway everything worked fine.  Last night temps dropped to 5
degrees F and when I went out to this morn noticed the needle on zero
and no
little digits going around.

QUESTION:   Can/do/ have any of you experienced the same?  Or am I
destined
to do this drill every few thousand miles?  Two things I can not take.
 Not
knowing how fast I am going or how far I have gone.

Regards
Tom Scordato




In really cold weather using the wrong lubricant  can cause the cable
to twist, become shorter and fail. There are severe cold wether lubes
available. A snowmobile shop should have something that works.

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
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Re: [MBZ] Housing costs

2006-02-23 Thread Tom Scordato
Brother in law bought his house 6 years ago in suburb of Boston for 275K. 
It is with in the known 100 mile each way  commuting radius (one way) of the 
city , three bedroom ranch on an acre, 1970s neighborhood.


Selling it for over 600K.  40 years ago Boston's housing dollar was about 
equal with Syracuse NY.  What happened?


New York's commuting radius that people drive is up to 150 miles one way. 
Two and a half hours each way at 2:00AM with no traffic.  With 
traffic/bridge waits 3 to 5 hours each way.  What will it be in 20 years? 
You  have 100 million or so people with in a 1000 mile radius of NYC all 
looking for he same thing.  300 million people in the US and growing!


Regards Tom Scordato



































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Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Housing costs


More a matter of their database not being updated for all homes sold in
the recent past than gross errors.  Seattle company, and I check sales
on my properties v. valuations at present.  The site is very close, but
I feel optimistic.  YMMV

On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, at 06:41 PM, Christopher McCann wrote:


My house was valued at 101K by the site...that's 10,000K more than the
 PO payed 6 years ago, but does not take into account the skyrocketing
 prices in my part of Kansas City. I paid $160,000 6 months ago and it
 was a good deal. It has my neighbors houses WAY too low too.

  If my house were 2 blocks East, it would be worth over $300,000 -
GARUANTEED (or however you spell that word)...AMAZINGLY, the website
does reflect the higher values of houses two blocks away into
account...and is probably closer with those. That is impressive. But
it  is so far off on my block that  one must conclude it is grossly
inaccurate. If I offered my house for anywhere near what that site
values it at, it would be sold within hours. Ditto for my neighbors.

  Chris

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  <
with taxes and escrow and the like, it comes to over a grand a month.
i
consider that a lot of money.>>

The new website www.zillow.com purports to give market prices for any
house
in the country by simply entering the address. The possible market
values of
houses in my neighborhood that I see every day is truly astonishing.
Who knew?

I've been looking up all my friend's homes just for fun.

RLE/Seattle
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-2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose"
-1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, "Nanook"
-1987 300TD, 151K, "Rotkäppchen"
-1985 300SD, 211K, "Wulf"
-1976 240D, ?K, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen)
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-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger"

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Clay
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1972 220D - Gump
1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz


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[MBZ] MB 1977 300D Engine Trouble shooting

2006-02-24 Thread Tom Scordato
Please need the groups help.  Given:  car has 270K miles.  Valves due for 
adjustment but not over due.  Religious filter changes, Mobil 1 Synth. 
Timing chain stretch unknown, I have never checked it in 100K miles (I know 
a no no)


Was driving on interstate.  Heard a  "sound" in engine area for about 5 
seconds.  Imediately noticed power drop off on hills and alot more smoke 
from exhaust, white blueish.  Once I pulled over idle was rough, allot of 
blue smoke.  I suspect valve trouble.  No bubbles in the open radiator.  Car 
runs starts but is very rough and no power at all on hills


Action items:  Ordered diesel compression tester and 18mm glow plug adapter. 
Also will pull valve cover check for valves clearance and timing chain 
degrees and stretch.  If a valve rod is thrown or bent I may find out by 
doing that.  I have a feeling it might be bad, but will be hopeful


Any more advise/war stories the list could share with me?  Regards Tom 
Scordato

1979 240D
1977 300D 






Re: [MBZ] MB 1977 300D Engine Trouble shooting

2006-02-24 Thread Tom Scordato

Jim asked EGR?  Does this car have one?

No I do not believe it does,  Naturaly asperated and not much in pollution 
control
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From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB 1977 300D Engine Trouble shooting



Was driving on interstate.  Heard a  "sound" in engine area for about 5
seconds.  Imediately noticed power drop off on hills and alot more
smoke
from exhaust, white blueish.  Once I pulled over idle was rough, allot
of
blue smoke.  I suspect valve trouble.  No bubbles in the open
radiator.  Car
runs starts but is very rough and no power at all on hills


EGR?  Does this car have one?

-- Jim


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[MBZ] MB Service Times for Jobs

2006-02-25 Thread Tom Scordato
About a year ago or so someone had a link to a program that gave Mercedes 
Service times to various maintenance and repair jobs for many different 
models.  Anyone have that?


thanks Regards Tom Scordato

1977300D
1979 240D 






Re: [MBZ] MB Service Times for Jobs

2006-02-25 Thread Tom Scordato

Thanks Dave
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Service Times for Jobs



Here ya go... about a 1MB download (uppack the Zip file):

http://www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/other/Mercedes_Labor_Time_Guide.zip

It's not user-friendly by any stretch of the imagination, though.

:)

-Dave M.


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Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 12:35:29 -0500
From: "Tom Scordato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [MBZ] MB Service Times for Jobs


About a year ago or so someone had a link to a program that gave Mercedes
Service times to various maintenance and repair jobs for many different
models.  Anyone have that?

thanks Regards Tom Scordato

1977300D
1979 240D


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Re: [MBZ] name my car

2006-02-26 Thread Tom Scordato
I am not into naming my cars, but see it as fun and sentimental for those 
who do.


Always thought if I did I would call it Janis for the great late singer 
Janis Joplin who said "oh Lord wouldn't you buy me a Mercedes Benz, my 
friend all drive Porches, I must make immense..."






















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Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 10:31 PM
Subject: [MBZ] name my car



1992 300D 2.5T, smoke silver, cream beige interior.  286Kmi.  Not mint by
any means, but mechanically perfect.

Name it.   Right now, can't think of anything befitting it, just because
it's not that unique.  For reference, I named my 1974 240D (green on 
green)

Lucille, and never really named my 1984 300Dt.

--
Sunil Hari
1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi.
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Re: [MBZ] name my car

2006-02-26 Thread Tom Scordato
amends I tried to spell check it but it did not work  I am from the age 
"johnny can not read or write"  sorry/Tom
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] name my car




On Feb 26, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Tom Scordato wrote:


 I must make immense..."



That's amends. You need to go here http://www.kissthisguy.com/

Enjoy!

Johnny B.
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Re: [MBZ] what is going on with Mobil 1

2006-02-27 Thread Tom Scordato

Loren wrote

"new" 15W-50, diesel rated, with a GOLD cap for more money"

this is the 15/50 extended service Mobil on for about $23 to $25 per gallon 
at walmart.  It has been around at least our parts for a year and a half. 
This is the extended service stuff.  I used to use the 15/50 regular Mobil 1 
sys until my supplier quite carrying it.  Advance Auto parts carries the 
extended service stuff still.


I may just switch to Amsoil.  We are getting into a weird area here where 
supply for oil is so spotty.

Regards Tom Scordato































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From: "Loren Faeth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 12:33 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] what is going on with Mobil 1



I stopped last week at the place in Iowa city I found to be much less
expensive than anywhere else.  The truck & suv was gone,  but they had a
"new" 15W-50, diesel rated, with a GOLD cap for more money.  I got 12
anyway.  Still less than the rest.  Don't know what is going on with it,
but it is making me nervous.   If it is SO good, why are they screwing
around with it?

Maybe we should all sign up under johnny B and make him the Amsoil baron
superhero.

I ran valvoline turbo for years, until they pulled it and took off the c
rating for everything else.  As near as I could tell the valvoline turbo
was a good oil for dino oil.

Loren


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Re: [MBZ] Suggestions for a replacement radio

2006-03-05 Thread Tom Scordato
I have a Blaupunk unit with cassette.  AM/FM works great.   Free you pay 
shipping/Tom Scordato
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Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 8:00 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Suggestions for a replacement radio



I ordered nice Pioneer for my 1981 300SD from Crutchfield.  It even came
with a free wiring harness and OE speaker wire connections
Mike
http://www.crutchfield.com



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From: "Craig McCluskey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "mercedes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 12:41 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Suggestions for a replacement radio



The old Alpine radio in our car has been slowly dying, first making
crackling noises from the loudspeakers and then the front panel
illumination quitting. The straw was today when I disconnected the radio
to change the console and it forgot its settings. Without being able to
read the front panel, I can't reset it.

So, does anyone have any suggestions on a reasonable replacement radio
(and source). I'm looking for something sans neon sign front panel; it's 
a

Benz, afterall. I've got the standard speakers and won't be upgrading
them, so functional is good.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] brake torsion bar -YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2006-03-07 Thread Tom Scordato

Great news Chris Don't you love when that happens?

Regards Tom Scordato
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From: "Christopher McCann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 6:50 PM
Subject: [MBZ] brake torsion 
bar -YES



THE BOLT JUST FELL OUT AH!  FOR 
ONCE, SOMETHING GOES MY WAY! MAKES SENSE AS THE BAR IS NOT AT ALL  RUSTY!! 
YAHOO!!! FEW RUBBER HICKIES A BOLT AN HOUR  LATER AND I'LL 
BE GOOD TO GO - THE VAST EXPANSE OF CO, AZ, AND NM  DESERT AWAITS ME THIS 
WEEKEND AND MY QUASI-TRUSTY COMPANION, WULF!


 Ecstatically,

 Christopher



Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
-2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose"
-1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, "Nanook"
-1987 300TD, 151K, "Rotkäppchen"
-1985 300SD, 211K, "Wulf"
-1976 240D, ?K, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen)
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-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger"

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[MBZ] 1977 300D non turbo engine replacement Cross Roads

2006-03-08 Thread Tom Scordato

A few questions for the group please

1.  Can a 1977 123 chassis take/accept an 617.9xx non turbo engine with out 
major modifications from the years 1978-1980 to last non turbo year?


2.  What are the estimated hours to pull out existing 617.9xx engine, remove 
things such as alternators, refer compressors, ect. and then put a used 
motor into the car al the while attaching the ancillary stuff I just said 
and install the new engine.  These would be the hours by a professional 
mechanic.


3.  I assume, new tranny hoses, new lube oil hoses ect. while I am at it.

4.  If you could share any experience you have.  Is there a link for doing 
this job?


I have located some used engines that have been compression tested and are 
in the 100K miles to 150K mile ranges, some which have been sitting for some 
time.


I am at a cross roads on the path of deciding if the car is worth it.  I do 
not have the "scope of supply" to do the job myself where I am located in 
life right now.


Thanks in advance Tom Scordato 






Re: [MBZ] 1977 300D non turbo engine replacement Cross Roads

2006-03-09 Thread Tom Scordato

Brian said
"when I complain about
it becoming a money pit, that there is nothing magic about these cars, 
they

wear out and break too"


Yes Brian they do and if you are racking up 40 to 50K a year on them it 
reaches a real point of diminishing returns.  I think I may minimize my loss 
on this, keep my low mileage 240D for another 200K (it has only 77K on it) 
and be happy


Brian I guess a 30 year car is like a 100 year house.  One side says it is a 
labor of love the other says it is a money pit.  One thing for sure they 
both need alot of tlc and cash.



Regards Tom
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Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1977 300D non turbo engine replacement Cross Roads


You'll probably find more helpful posts than this, but I can tell you that 
I
just had the engine replaced in a 240D. Engine cost me 900 and the 
complete

R&R job done by an indy - not me - cost 800 (plus a couple unexpected
expenses). The engine I got usually sells for 1100.

Was it worth it to us? Yes, but as I discover more potentially broken or
breaking things on the car, I begin to question it. I wanted one of these
Mercedes diesels and then I became convinced by reading this list (and got
the general impression that these cars are about as wonderful as tits and
beer) but I'm getting the general impression lately, when I complain about
it becoming a money pit, that there is nothing magic about these cars, 
they

wear out and break too, it's just that if properly cared for, the diesel
engines can last quite a long time.

Wish you the best with your quest.

Brian
83 240D

On 3/8/06, Tom Scordato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


A few questions for the group please

1.  Can a 1977 123 chassis take/accept an 617.9xx non turbo engine with
out
major modifications from the years 1978-1980 to last non turbo year?

2.  What are the estimated hours to pull out existing 617.9xx engine,
remove
things such as alternators, refer compressors, ect. and then put a used
motor into the car al the while attaching the ancillary stuff I just said
and install the new engine.  These would be the hours by a professional
mechanic.

3.  I assume, new tranny hoses, new lube oil hoses ect. while I am at it.

4.  If you could share any experience you have.  Is there a link for 
doing

this job?

I have located some used engines that have been compression tested and 
are

in the 100K miles to 150K mile ranges, some which have been sitting for
some
time.

I am at a cross roads on the path of deciding if the car is worth it.  I
do
not have the "scope of supply" to do the job myself where I am located in
life right now.

Thanks in advance Tom Scordato



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Re: [MBZ] 1977 300D non turbo engine replacement Cross Roads

2006-03-09 Thread Tom Scordato

Marshall said

"If you can do it yourself or get a really cut rate, you
can sometimes restore a car to service, but usually you are better off
finding a replacement car that meets your needs"

Marshall you are right and I believe/Tom

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From: "Marshall Booth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1977 300D non turbo engine replacement Cross Roads



Tom Scordato wrote:

I have located some used engines that have been compression tested and 
are
in the 100K miles to 150K mile ranges, some which have been sitting for 
some

time.

I am at a cross roads on the path of deciding if the car is worth it.  I 
do

not have the "scope of supply" to do the job myself where I am located in
life right now.

Thanks in advance Tom Scordato


Mercedes made a few changes every year and there certainly MIGHT be
changes that would make slipping an '80-81 engine into a '77 chassis a
challenge (but I'm almost sure it can be done).

I would guess that 8 hours MIGHT do it if the mechanic were VERY
experienced AND had done the job several times, but there are a LOT of
variables that could increase the time by a lot. Unless the the car is
in WAY, WAY above average condition I wouldn't suggest it with a nearly
30 year old (or even a 20 year old) car. It has NOT been economically
advantageous for me to pay someone a proper fee to do such jobs (I've
done it anyway). If you can do it yourself or get a really cut rate, you
can sometimes restore a car to service, but usually you are better off
finding a replacement car that meets your needs.

Marshall
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  "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5
turbo 237kmi

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Re: [MBZ] 1977 300D non turbo engine replacement Cross Roads

2006-03-09 Thread Tom Scordato

Brian said

"All that said, I still do admire this type of vehicle and think that it is
one of the few that - since I have to drive - I want to drive. I do enjoy it
and look forward to a happy life with it."

As you should and will.  Like I told my family who gives me grief that I do 
not or will not drive a rock climber:


"I will drive a Mercedes Diesel until I die, so get used to it.  For me 
Brian I to bought a 185K 300D diesel which I did not have records on.  But 
guess what I put 100K miles on it, had a lot of fun, worked on it, developed 
a love for a car I really enjoy driving.  Luckily I bought a 1979 240D with 
low miles and I can start all over again!


Thanks for your input and enjoy changing your starter out.  I know on my 
300D I had to remove the transmission dip stick tube but other that not too 
bad of a job.  Kind of a reach around to get at the Allen bolts if I recall. 
Small stubby angle ratchet helps.


Tom Scordato































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From: "Brian Chase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1977 300D non turbo engine replacement Cross Roads


But would it be worth doing all the crack? Seriously though, jesting 
aside:

One of the things that I was most surprised about when I began to
investigate an older Mercedes was how affordable they were. Not having had
any specific interest in them in the past, I always assumed that even an 
old

one (as in 80s) would be way way out of the range of reasonable (like the
range you gave for the showroom cond. one). And an even older one would be
getting into true "classic" status and thus would be even further out of
range.

So basically one that is in the lower $2k range is one that, generally
speaking, has not been maintained and the seller therefore knows it has
problems?

I see all the time through the list, Mercedes diesels for that sort of 
price

(and that's about what mine cost) and the listers often tout picking them
up. Guess what I have been missing all along is that it is understood that
if you buy one at this price range, you will be looking - almost for 
certain

- at several repairs.

I have read things today on the list that I did not see in the six months 
or

longer leading up to the purchase of my 240D. But in fairness, it is a
Mercedes enthusiast list (with a very large do-it-yourself contingent). 
What

should I have expected? And also in fairness, I don't think that I ever
specifically asked the question, do you guys think that I ought to buy one
of these autos?

All that said, I still do admire this type of vehicle and think that it is
one of the few that - since I have to drive - I want to drive. I do enjoy 
it

and look forward to a happy life with it.

Next order of business: replace the starter. It did it's "nothing" trick
just now.

Brian 83 240D

Marshall wrote:

One that's quite well maintained, may well be worth
$2000-5000 and one that's in close to showroom condition with less than
75kmi on it can sell for $10+k and MAY even be worth that.

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Re: [MBZ] 1977 300D non turbo engine replacement Cross Roads

2006-03-09 Thread Tom Scordato

Dwight said

"Tom, I like and agree with your philosophy-I will always drive a MB
"diesel for the rest of my life-I have two sitting in the driveway right
now"

Dwight do tell about the 1990.  maybe it is time for me to trade up from the 
123 chassis.  The vacuum door locks give me real grief on all those. I do by 
the way have a 1979 240D too.  I call it the "Flip Maker"  As I drive up and 
accelerate (0-60 forever) up the highway on ramps I get folks flipping me 
the bird all the time, my pedals is to the metal.  People are very full of 
hate and discontent in this the freest country in the world.  Why is that 
so?


It is now my daily driver and I love it, 77K now and growing by 50K a year. 
thanks Dwight


Tom Scordato












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To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1977 300D non turbo engine replacement Cross Roads



Tom, I like and agree with your philosophy-I will always drive a MB
diesel for the rest of my life-I have two sitting in the driveway right
now.

Dwight Giles, Jr
1979 240D auto, 250K + miles
1990 300D 2.5t, 129K miles
Wickford, RI


-Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Scordato
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 8:32 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1977 300D non turbo engine replacement Cross Roads


Brian said

"All that said, I still do admire this type of vehicle and think that it
is one of the few that - since I have to drive - I want to drive. I do
enjoy it and look forward to a happy life with it."

As you should and will.  Like I told my family who gives me grief that I
do
not or will not drive a rock climber:

"I will drive a Mercedes Diesel until I die, so get used to it.  For me
Brian I to bought a 185K 300D diesel which I did not have records on.
But
guess what I put 100K miles on it, had a lot of fun, worked on it,
developed
a love for a car I really enjoy driving.  Luckily I bought a 1979 240D
with
low miles and I can start all over again!

Thanks for your input and enjoy changing your starter out.  I know on my

300D I had to remove the transmission dip stick tube but other that not
too
bad of a job.  Kind of a reach around to get at the Allen bolts if I
recall.
Small stubby angle ratchet helps.

Tom Scordato































- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Chase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1977 300D non turbo engine replacement Cross Roads



But would it be worth doing all the crack? Seriously though, jesting
aside:
One of the things that I was most surprised about when I began to
investigate an older Mercedes was how affordable they were. Not having

had

any specific interest in them in the past, I always assumed that even

an

old
one (as in 80s) would be way way out of the range of reasonable (like

the

range you gave for the showroom cond. one). And an even older one

would be

getting into true "classic" status and thus would be even further out

of

range.

So basically one that is in the lower $2k range is one that, generally



speaking, has not been maintained and the seller therefore knows it
has problems?

I see all the time through the list, Mercedes diesels for that sort of
price
(and that's about what mine cost) and the listers often tout picking

them

up. Guess what I have been missing all along is that it is understood

that

if you buy one at this price range, you will be looking - almost for
certain
- at several repairs.

I have read things today on the list that I did not see in the six
months
or
longer leading up to the purchase of my 240D. But in fairness, it is a
Mercedes enthusiast list (with a very large do-it-yourself

contingent).

What
should I have expected? And also in fairness, I don't think that I

ever

specifically asked the question, do you guys think that I ought to buy

one

of these autos?

All that said, I still do admire this type of vehicle and think that
it is one of the few that - since I have to drive - I want to drive. I



do enjoy it and look forward to a happy life with it.

Next order of business: replace the starter. It did it's "nothing"
trick just now.

Brian 83 240D

Marshall wrote:

One that's quite well maintained, may well be worth $2000-5000 and one



that's in close to showroom condition with less than 75kmi on it can
sell for $10+k and MAY even be worth that.

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