Re: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD
It matters. Had monroe changed to Bilsteins. Huge difference in ride and feel on a 123 chassis. Do not know on the your chassis but probablly true. Well worth the money Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "Kevin Beswick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 8:13 PM Subject: [MBZ] Bilstein vs Monroe shocks on a 80 SD My kid is tearing up my 80 300SD. The latest is a broken shock. It looks like the bottom washer on the top mount broke, and the top of the shock is sticking up about 4 inches. The Monroe shocks are about a third the price of the Bilsteins. Is it really going to matter in a 25 year old car? I'll be driving it from now on mostly. His 84 SD is finally on the road. Thanks Kevin ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness
An who said diesel is cheaper. It used to be. Tell me has the refining process changed? How else could #2 fuel oil get so wacked out? Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: "Loren Faeth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness Around here, since last Thursday, gasoline can be had for 2.39. Diesel is 3.19 Diesel went UP last week! $.80 premium over gasoline is NUTS for a lower quality distillate I have been driving the van more It runs on E85 too, but they jacked the price up on E85 so that there is no savings. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Topsider
Where are these sold please??? Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: "John Peterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 6:08 PM Subject: [MBZ] Topsider It works super on my MB, but I tried it on a 2000 Volvo S70 and it was a failure- slurp, adjust, slurp, adjust, oh forget it I'm just gonna open the bolt down below. But it is tops on my MB. Oil change in 8 minutes and a good arm workout. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 5:24 PM Subject: [MBZ] Topsider audio <done sucking when the inside of your oile tube is black?>> Listening at the dipstick tube, you will hear the same sound you got when when you were a kid, sucking the last drop from a root-beer float. Sluuurp. Even with M1 in a gasser, you can't see much in the tube. RLE ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness
Kaleb said "Surely they would have come up with more efficient ways by now" Nope, tradition un hampered by progress...In PA There is always coal at $80 a ton - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness I can buy diesel going up because of heating oil season, but $1 more, something is fishy. BTW, whats the deal with heating oil anyways, why is it still used up north? Surely they would have come up with more efficient ways by now. dave walton wrote: Most of rural Ohio heats with fuel oil. Now is the time when demand begins. Might be a contributing factor -Dave Walton On 10/18/05, Tom Scordato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: An who said diesel is cheaper. It used to be. Tell me has the refining process changed? How else could #2 fuel oil get so wacked out? Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: "Loren Faeth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 1:14 PM Subject: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness Around here, since last Thursday, gasoline can be had for 2.39. Diesel is 3.19 Diesel went UP last week! $.80 premium over gasoline is NUTS for a lower quality distillate I have been driving the van more It runs on E85 too, but they jacked the price up on E85 so that there is no savings. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] MB Fuel Additives
Marshall said "You need to know that Mercedes does not approve of ANY diesel fuel additives for regular use." Marshall, maybe from the ignorance is bliss school of thought, I have been adding in an oz +/- of Power Service bio side, anti gell type, cetane boost stuff and in the winter when it gets cold some kerosene at EVERY FILL UP since I have owned it which is three years. the car is a 1977 300D. I assumed this was good practice and maybe it will not take me 20 years to switch if you sell me some more. Any more thoughts ( I also add some lube oil to the tank once in a while). on what negitive situations might be avoided by stopping beside my exra 5 minutes and the additive $$? I Lubro Molly directly to engine once or twice a year. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: "Marshall Booth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 5:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] newbie questions Lee Levitt wrote: 2). I know nothing about diesel additives, except that they're important. What should I know? You need to know that Mercedes does not approve of ANY diesel fuel additives for regular use. If you have a specific problem, there are additives that can correct some problems (clean the fuel system, remove water from the fuel system, kill bugs in the fuel, etc.), but they should not EVER be used until you have established that there is a specific problem. Mercedes diesels were designed to run optimally on #1 or #2 diesel fuel - NOT on diesel and some additive! Any regular use of any additive will unnecessarily increase the cost of running the car! It took me almost 20 years to stop using additives - but since I stopped using them about 20 years ago, the cost of running my cars has decreased and the cars run for years without ANY additives (except a shot of anti-gel in the late fall and if temps are predicted to drop below zero F). Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] MB Fuel Additives
Thanks a million Marshall, I value your knowledge! Will do. Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: "Marshall Booth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 10:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Fuel Additives Tom Scordato wrote: Marshall said "You need to know that Mercedes does not approve of ANY diesel fuel additives for regular use." Marshall, maybe from the ignorance is bliss school of thought, I have been adding in an oz +/- of Power Service bio side, anti gell type, cetane boost stuff and in the winter when it gets cold some kerosene at EVERY FILL UP since I have owned it which is three years. the car is a 1977 300D. I assumed this was good practice and maybe it will not take me 20 years to switch if you sell me some more. Any more thoughts ( I also add some lube oil to the tank once in a while). on what negitive situations might be avoided by stopping beside my exra 5 minutes and the additive $$? I Lubro Molly directly to engine once or twice a year. Probably what you are doing will do little or no harm except to your wallet. Your car is designed to run on either #1 or #2 diesel fuel for a lot of miles. #2 lubricates a lot better than #1 so adding a lubricant (that MAY seriously help an engine with a fuel lubricated injection pump) will be of little or no benefit when your running on #2 (or even B10 or B20). If you buy winter treated fuel (by FAR the best most economical way to treat fuel - they are professionals and know exactly how much of what is usually needed) then about all you need is to add a shot or two of anti-gel to sequester the water that condenses out of the air in your less than full tank when temperatures drop. If the idle gets a little uneven, then maybe a Techron concentrate or Diesel Purge treatment might be justified (after you do a few Italian tuneup runs to see if that's all that's needed). I have found that Italian tuneup or even a few hours of highway driving are USUALLY more effective than any fuel treatment as "tonic" for minor idle unsmoothness! Your engine REALLY was designed to run OPTIMALLY on high quality, clean #2 diesel - not some home brew mixture that you THINK might be good. Play until you get your car running really smoothly. Then stop putting STUFF in the tank and see how long it takes before there is a problem. If your experience is like mine, and you do a fair amount of highway driving, it may be years before you need to consider adding anything except to remove water! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 240D oil pressure wackiness
Lube oil, Lube oil. I check every fill up. Car is shut down wait for a few minutes clean dip stick place in guide tube, count to 5 one thousand check. Look for leaks at oil cooling lines every fill up. Quick inspect of radiator and heating hoses. While driving check oil pressure and temp of engine every few minutes. (or better yet every time you check speedo) If a drop happens or a drastic rise in engine temp, pull over imediately and shut her down and inspect. Like most metal scraping metal, it does not hold up long with no lube oil, especially at high speeds, low tolerances and high temps. Mine 77 300D also consumes about 1/2 to a quart every 1,000 miles or so. Has for three years, no worse no better using sythetic. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 5:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D oil pressure wackiness Chris, I had the exact same symptoms on my 240D last winter. I replaced the oil cap which had been leaking, vowed to keep a closer eye on oil level and it hasn't happened again. My car consumes a quart of oil in about 800 miles (Mobil 1 5w40, 15w50 and 0w40, tried all 3). It leaks a fair bit of that and must burn some too. I've driven about 35,000 miles since I switched to synthetic and all I can say is it isn't getting any worse. Maybe a little better but I don't keep careful enough records... -Curt '83 240D "Hammie" 247kmi Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:16:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MBZ] 240D oil pressure wackiness To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 seems like the list is down, which means you'll get this in time to disregard my previous post. After sitting for 4 hours, I checked the oil level (coolant was fine) - NOTHING. So I added 3 qrts (2 probably would have been better) and now everything is back to normal. DH (as Homer would say). No excuse, but not having a working odometer probably contributed to my lack of oversight. It obviously does burn oil. Will need to watch that much more carefully. Are there any maintenance issues that would improve burning oil? Oil Pressure is good, compression is not great...what is the cause? worn rings? Anything a healthy dose of Diesel Purge might fix? How about a 3,000 highway run on M1 to break crud up on the rings and help them reseat? This car sat in MN FOREVER and I have only driven it around town and local highways. At first it would not start under 40, let alone at near freezing on my "special sauce" ("alternative fuel") Again, thanks for bearaing with my more or less dumb questions. Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, "Rotk?ppchen" (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, "Wulf" (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Pr?fenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger" - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] MB Car Fax 1979 240 D
Could anyone run a repot on a 1979 240 D vin 12312312094914. I would appreciate it. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: "Loren Faeth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] HCCI and 'what is a diesel" Ja, but the definition of Diesel is compression ignition. So, an argument can be made both ways. Since it is a honda, I say WHO CARES? Diesel engines can run on whale oil, but they are not called whale engines if so, or soy engines if run on soy oil. At 08:09 PM 10/25/2005, you wrote: Well from what I can see it is to do with the name of the fuel that is used in a particular engine. It would be confusing to call the HCCI engines diesels because people would assume that they run on diesel. "Now listen carefully dear, even though this new car has an engine called a diesel in it, it actually runs on petrol/gas. So please don't get mixed up when you fill it up." Hendrik - Original Message - From: "Christopher McCann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 4:37 AM Subject: [MBZ] HCCI and 'what is a diesel" In reading about HCCI, it annoys me that they say it is 'like a diesel' or 'like it's diesel cousin'...I guess this bugs me b/c I have read about Diesel himself and see how he envisaged the engine. Any compression ignition engine is a diesel...obvisouly HCCI is the most different out there, esp since it seems that the current ones still have spark plugs to kick in at the higher and lower revs to even things out, making it a hybrid diesel. But if an HCCI engine were to be produced that had no spark plugs, it would simply be a diesel - just optimized to use a different fuel, just like Dr. Diesel himself modified engines to run off thick Baku oil (and was awarded a medal by the Czar of Russia for doing so). It's probably all marketing, want to sidestep the idea of dirty soot belching, glow plugging diesels. But it's still a diesel. It just irks me a tad. Rudy could care less what it's called, from what I can tell of his life, he would be happy to see this, but would not like the over-complicatedness of it as it makes it less practical (impossible) for an owner to work on. He was very big on empowering (pun intended) the little guy...the simpler the better. 70 mpg is nice though... Done rambling. Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, "Rotkäppchen" (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, "Wulf" (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this unless you are willing to sacrifice your IP, injectors, pre-chambers, etc.) -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger" __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/143 - Release Date: 19/10/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] MB Car Fax 1979 240 D
Mitch thans for trying, Tom - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 10:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Car Fax 1979 240 D Tom Scordato wrote: Could anyone run a repot on a 1979 240 D vin 12312312094914. I would appreciate it. Not through carfax, that's the old numbering scheme, which carfax never collected data on. Need the 17 character "WDB" numbers that came along in 1980 or 1981. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] 1981 240D Alternator Job
Has anyone changed out an alternator on a 1981 240D? Need some advise or some war stories on how to do it. Can it be done with out lifting the car? Please advise on a web link or a procedure. Thanks gang. Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "Marshall Booth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Start gear Marshall Booth wrote: Gabriel S. wrote: Does the 87 300d start in second gear? I read somewere that 124 (not sure if all) start in 2nd gear. If yes, how can i defeat this (besides flooring it every time)? MOST US delivered 124s start in 2nd. MOST 124s are gasoline powered. None of the 124 diesels start in second! If yours starts in second, then the linkage is probably worn and needs to be adjusted. Marshall Sometime in the early 90s the gas 124s got 1st gear starts too. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1981 240D Alternator Job
thanks a million Bruce! - Original Message - From: "B Dike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1981 240D Alternator Job Tom, You can do it from above but ramps make it easier. Just a couple of long bolts and spacers. Jiggle it around to get both bolts back in. Bruce --- Tom Scordato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Has anyone changed out an alternator on a 1981 240D? Need some advise or some war stories on how to do it. Can it be done with out lifting the car? Please advise on a web link or a procedure. Thanks gang. Regards Tom Scordato Bruce 82 300CD 334kmi 'His' 85 300CD 236kmi 'Hers' 75 240D 194kmi 'Donner' 77 240D 204kmi 'Blitzen' __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] 300SL History Channel
Oh to my surprise as I turned on the History channel this morn and saw a special on the MB 300SL. What a machine. May have been on before and or may becoming to a cable company near you. For once I took control and did not allow that home channel with the folks doing $900,000 home improvements my wife always wants to watch. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA
Re: [MBZ] Smoke on Start-up
Peter, first try Italian tune up. Get it out there on intersate 291, 91, or 84 and push it hard for 30 or 40 miles. These cars love that. See what happens. I have a 77 300D that always smokes white on start up but runs fine and does not smoke once rolling good. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: "Peter Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 5:25 AM Subject: [MBZ] Smoke on Start-up Cool weather is here. I note that my car fires very quick. It seems to be blowing much more smoke (White) than it did last year. Runs fine. G/P are about 20Kmi old. Thoughts? -- Peter T. Arnold Windsor, Connecticut U.S.A. 1987 Mercedes 300SDL, 233 Kmi on Delvac1, changes when f-soot is 2% 1995 Ford F-250 W/PSD, 192 Kmi on Rotella @ 5 Kmi Changes 2002 PT Cruizer, 77 Kmi, Every 5 Kmi with what's on sale 1954 Metropolitan {My Hanger-Queen} None use oil between changes, go figure ;-) ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO
I have a line on a 1982 240D that I may be interested in. It has a turbo on it. Owner who is the original says it was put on I believe after market. 1. Any one have experience with this please. 2. Was the four banger designed to allow and run properly witht his type of adder. I do not believe it was offered from the German factory but was put on later in 1982 as a kit? Any words of wisdom please. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA
Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO
Boy thanks for the responce and on a Sunday evening to boot. I will go look at it. I do not think I want it after having heard from the group. But will pass on infor to anyone interested. Car is located in Northeast. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: "redghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO h, I do not want to lower Gump's power. EGR is a bad thing, since I would have to engineer a way to put a BB in to block the valve. Will just stick with the blow drier idea On Sunday, October 30, 2005, at 04:49 PM, Marshall Booth wrote: OK Don wrote: Since a Diesel supplies more air than needed, and adds the right amount of fuel, maybe you could just recycle the exhaust - it ought to still have O2 -- -- - That's called exhaust gas recirculation (EGR). Most Mercedes diesels made since the early '80s have it. It lowers combustion temperatures, the generation of NOx and lowers power while it's engaged. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO
Mike Said I want another 240D...I am in the NEWhat is the asking price? Mike to all: I went an inspected car today. Has 66,000 +/- miles on it. Original owner. I saw all maint. records Car is a Maroon colored paint and is in very good shape with clear coat still in place. No rust. Has never been driven in snow. One or two minor blemished and a small dime size dent on right side of car. Body is very nice. The thing has an after market Calloway turbine. It is a standard shift and I could not notice anymore power than a regular 240D. The gauges and the wine indicate I believe the turbo is working. I had trouble getting it inot 1st as it wanted to go into reverse. A little more temperment than other 240D diesels I have driven with standard. The turbo gauges meant the area where the ash tray is has been bastardized and looks a bit off with these gauges. The car has a cd player with no orginal Becker. Interior is a 8.5 to a 9 out of 10 and is palimino MB tex. Has manual moon roof with electric windows. Vacuum door locks work. The turbo is placed when facing front of radiator on the left under the intake and exhaust manifolds with the air filter housing being located via some after market supports over the A/C reciever. The car has two diesel filters plus inline filter. Guy wants $8,000 for it, and I am not interested. I did not take pics but email me off line and I can give you further info. I question the longevity of having a turbo, but I assume it could be removed and placed back to original and would be more appealling to a purist. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Mike Canfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO I want another 240D...I am in the NEWhat is the asking price? Mike - Original Message - From: "Tom Scordato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO Boy thanks for the responce and on a Sunday evening to boot. I will go look at it. I do not think I want it after having heard from the group. But will pass on infor to anyone interested. Car is located in Northeast. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: "redghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO h, I do not want to lower Gump's power. EGR is a bad thing, since I would have to engineer a way to put a BB in to block the valve. Will just stick with the blow drier idea On Sunday, October 30, 2005, at 04:49 PM, Marshall Booth wrote: OK Don wrote: Since a Diesel supplies more air than needed, and adds the right amount of fuel, maybe you could just recycle the exhaust - it ought to still have O2 -- -- - That's called exhaust gas recirculation (EGR). Most Mercedes diesels made since the early '80s have it. It lowers combustion temperatures, the generation of NOx and lowers power while it's engaged. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Pharmacology 1300 BST Pittsburgh PA 15261 USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] diesel prices coming down
Paid $2.66 here in central PA today. Down to $2.64 by evening Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "Kevin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel prices coming down On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 12:02:16PM -0800, Gabriel S. wrote: 2.99 here in Southern California. 2.99 in walnut creek, 2.73 last night in lathrop at joe's travel center (affectionately referred to as joe's go juice) K ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Big Boy Topsider Oil Sucker
I have been toying with getting the subject unit. I read the reviews for the sucker in West Marine and some of our Mariime friends are pretty critical of the unit. Anyone in diesel world use one before I plop down 50 smackers on this thing? Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA
[MBZ] Car Transport
fly there drive back. I plan on doing this from southwest to PA on a 240D. Cost to ship runs 900-1500 smakers depending. With all due respect avoiding the head aches you get dealing with some car transport folks. flight out $150 one way. Fuel back $250, Hotels non for me drive straight through. Rental car to Pittsburgh airport one way $75 The thrill of driving a 240D w cross country in fall PRICELESS Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Car Transport fly up, drive back. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy - Anybody got a good way to transport a car from Kansas to Va.? Estimated cost? The car is running/drivable. TIA - Sincerely, Larry T ('74 911, '67 MGB, 78 240D) A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Big Boy Topsider Oil Sucker28
I made a $2.00 sucker. it sucked, just not oil Tom - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Big Boy Topsider Oil Sucker28 I've had mine for over a year now and its good. The seals aren't so great on it but so far thats just made me pump a bit more to get all the oil out. Otherwise its been very satisfactory. We'll get killed for even talking about this by the $2 oil sucker crowd but I have nowhere to plug a $2 oil sucker in since I can't drive my car into my 3rd floor walkup apartment. So the topsider (which is actually I think "topside" not "topsider") is a good choice for me. My mechanic was charging me $20 to change the oil, I buy the oil, which was a fair price but paid for the topsider after a couple uses. IIRC I paid $40 from Northern Tool. -Curt Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:25:43 -0500 From: "Tom Scordato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MBZ] Big Boy Topsider Oil Sucker To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original I have been toying with getting the subject unit. I read the reviews for the sucker in West Marine and some of our Mariime friends are pretty critical of the unit. Anyone in diesel world use one before I plop down 50 smackers on this thing? Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Becker Radio
Any one have paperwork and schematic for a Becker 560 (I believe) model radio, AM/FM cassette they can part with or sell. The black looking unit. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] SLS accumulators Marshall Booth wrote: The accumulators in "S" class cars DO tend to deteriorate sooner with a range of 60-100kmi being the kind of life that I've seen most often. It may be the additional weight (but my 300TD is only a few hundred pounds lighter than a 126 with SLS and it's original accumulators lasted about 140kmi). Are those S-class cars using SLS with springs or springless systems like the 6.3/6.9/600 had? The springless ones are charged to 2-3 times the pressure of the S123 SLS accumulators. (23 bar for S123, 57-75 bar for the others IIRC) ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Hood release cable on 1982 300td wagon
This happened to me last winter on a 1977 300D. My block heater plug of course was under the hood and to be accessed by pulling cable and openning. I had to keep stating vehicle every 4 to five hours just so I could run it until I made the repair Here is what I did. You may be able to open hood by reaching between grill and getting a long pair of needle pliers in there. You will see the latch, pull towards the right I believe. I eventually cut the grill it is plastic and made the cable repair which is not that hard at all. hardest part is tightning the nuts underneath that hold it in place under the latch. make sure the latch is in good shape and lined up properly. This was the cause of my cable snapping and I ended up replaceing the latch part on the body just forward of the radiator. I also replaced the grill with a new one. Hope this helps. There is a good write up on how to do it in the MB manuals on 123 chassis. Let me know if you need a copy. Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "Morgan, Michael S HM1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 10:17 AM Subject: [MBZ] Hood release cable on 1982 300td wagon My cable broke inside right at the release handle. Any ideas of how difficult this is to repair? ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 300D timing chain replacement
Kaleb said Have you checked to see if its stretched? No Kaleb not yet I will. Valves due for adjustment in three months or so. 10-4 on the two man job. Tom - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D timing chain replacement You need 2 people, one to feed chain, one to turn the engine over. First things first though, why are you changing it? Have you checked to see if its stretched? Tom Scordato wrote: Contemplaing doing timing chain overdue at 270K miles. I have been doing some research. It appears a chain buddy;, ie standby helper is required. Can this job be done totally solo? I have not met any of my neighbors or friends/wifes/kids or enemies who gives a rats a-- for my 77 300D or would be worthy or interested in helping. Any thoughts please. Can it be done solo? Thanks Regards Tom Scordato, Bellefonte PA ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Carfax LESSONS LEARNED
Just for your info Carfax has some flaws. I bought a 1981 MB 240D last November, advertised with 71,000 miles. Did a car fax check, was fine, mileage is confirmed ok. Shipped her cross country. With in five minutes of having it home rifled through glove box. Found old maintenance records as well as the name address of the second owner who owned car for 1987-2004 years. He informed me of the whole history of the auto, as well as sending me a copy of the odometer (should be called true mileage) disclosure form. Over 250,000 miles. The 1987-2004 Owner of the car sent it to me. Trouble was this owner who I spoke with replaced odometer with a new one set to 0 70K miles or so ago and never renewed the title/registration in his state. Car fax just went by the latest registration. which was from the guy I bought it from. He owned the car for a month or so. Just a sea story and word of caution: "extreme claims of low mileage require extreme proof" Look for maintenance records, which matach up mileage and good service practices, where the car was serviced, and talk to past owners. Talk to past mechanics. Do not be bashfull. Push for the information. It took me over a year and many visits to the court to resolve my issue. It was a real battle. I thought I had an out with Carfax's buy back guarantee. They just laughed at me. Since it was not properly retitled when the odometer was changed out they were not liable. Beware... Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:12 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carfax Help Vehicle Snapshot Vehicle 1991 Mercedes-Benz 300 Series 300D-T VIN WDBEB28D8MB417104 Body Style 4 Door Sedan Country of Manufacture Germany Vehicle History Checklist Vehicle Description WDBEB28D8MB417104 Title Check No records found Problem Check Records found Odometer Check No records found Vehicle Information No records found Full History Records found Title Check Your vehicle checks out! Abandoned No Abandoned Records Found Damaged No Damaged Records Found Fire Damage No Fire Damage Records Found Grey Market No Grey Market Records Found Hail Damage No Hail Damage Records Found Insurance Loss No Insurance Loss Records Found Junk No Junk Records Found Rebuilt/Rebuildable No Rebuilt/Rebuildable Records Found Salvage No Salvage Records Found Problem Check Problems Found! NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle No NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle Records Found Fire Damage Incident No Fire Damage Incident Records Found Frame Damage No Frame Damage Records Found Major Damage No Major Damage Records Found Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon No Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Records Found Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon No Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Records Found Odometer Problem Odometer Problem Records Found Salvage Auction No Salvage Auction Records Found Water Damage No Water Damage Records Found Vehicle Information Your vehicle checks out! Accident Data No Accident Data Records Found Corrected Title No Corrected Title Records Found Driver Education No Driver Education Records Found Duplicate Title No Duplicate Title Records Found Emission/Safety Inspection No Emission/Safety Inspection Records Found Livery Use No Livery Use Records Found Government Use No Government Use Records Found Police Use No Police Use Records Found Rental/Fleet No Rental/Fleet Records Found Repossessed No Repossessed Records Found Taxi Use No Taxi Use Records Found Theft No Theft Records Found Vehicle History Records We have searched the Experian Automotive National Vehicle Database of insurance, DMV, and auto auction information and found the following 16 records for this 1991 MERCEDES-BENZ 300 SERIES 300D-T. Note the highlighted rows for potential issues that could affect the value of this vehicle. Date Location Mileage Description 1995-11-21 belleville, IL registration event/renewal 1996-06-19 center harbor, NH registration event/renewal 1996-06-21 center harbor, NH 70300 title 1996-12-27 center harbor, NH registration event/renewal 1997-11-03 center harbor, NH registration event/renewal 1998-10-30 center harbor, NH registration event/renewal 1998-11-04 center harbor, NH 104078 title 1998-11-04 center harbor, NH exceeds mechanical limits 1999-05-28 center harbor, NH registration event/renewal 2000-06-05 center harbor, NH registration event/renewal 2003-05-22 meredith, NH registration event/renewal 2004-06-01 fort myers beach, FL title 2004-06-01 fort myers beach, FL registration event/renewal 2004-06-01 fort myers beach, FL excluded/exempt 2004-10-07 fort myers beach, FL registration event/renewal 2004-10-07 fort myers beach, FL excluded/exempt Glossary of Descriptions Found for This Vehicle (full glossary) Description Full Definition Renewal Vehicle had registration renewal event reported by
Re: [MBZ] changing to synthetic
Lee was reported to have said > "My mechanic, a Mercedes guy (on the board of the local MB club, etc), is strongly resisting my desire to convert my car to synthetic oil. He's concerned that all manner of leaks will appear. Generally I trust him on things like this...but I'd really like to run synthetic. I know we've already discussed this...any further thoughts? " Lee Same thing a mechanic who only services the finest cars Europeanin State College PA said to me three years ago when I bought my 1977 300D and I knew absolutely nothing about these cars. Like a deer in the headlights I brought it in to him. This guy makes more money than a New York City brain surgeon per hour. "oh you will get leaks" oh this oh that. Like a dentist telling you do not brush with Flouride (so he can fill more cavities). I avoid this guy like the latest plague we are gearing up for. All the experts are here on this list. I tust them more than any mechanic because they live and breath this stuff. They love it. Speaking from my experience...You have dino/synth. oil that when you compare is it is the same weight/sae. One works better in extreme hot cold conditions, holds together better for a longer time, provides better protection during cold start ups. It is by a miracle of science and industrial production chemicaly and physically superior. Metal rubbing metal, one lube material lasts longer and is better. It was a no brainer. I switched a few months after owning the car. Never got one leak. I do 45 to 55K a year on her mileage wise. Mobil one, (or Amsoil if you like) would not have it any other way. Every 10K change the lube filters, oil and while I am at it my fuel filters. I just purchased a 1979 240D four banger with 74K original miles . Drove it from Phoenix Az to Bellefonte PA, to get the kinks out. First thing I will do is change it out too. Remember, lube oil, lube oil, lube oil. Now Marshall Both knows the exact scientific reasons, because he has spilt more than I know about these fine machines but that is the way this degreed engineer sees it. Hope this helps. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: "Lee Levitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mercedes mailing list'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] changing to synthetic My mechanic, a Mercedes guy (on the board of the local MB club, etc), is strongly resisting my desire to convert my car to synthetic oil. He's concerned that all manner of leaks will appear. Generally I trust him on things like this...but I'd really like to run synthetic. I know we've already discussed this...any further thoughts? Thanks! Lee '93 300D 2.5L turbo 179K ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] (Sorry) more synthetic oil questions!
"Marshall's recommended Mobil 1 Truck and SUV 5W-40 is not available." I have been using the Mobil 1 15-50 "extended service" for over 100K with no problems. I will swith to 5-40 Mobile one next time only because I can now get it. Regards Tom - Original Message - From: "Euan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 5:15 PM Subject: [MBZ] (Sorry) more synthetic oil questions! Hi team Thanks for the discussion on synthetic oils and for your patience in answering the same questions again and again. Down here in the colonies, the only Mobil synthetic oils available are Mobil 1 5W-50 Mobil 1 0W-40 Mobil 1 10W-30 Mobil 1 15W-50 Marshall's recommended Mobil 1 Truck and SUV 5W-40 is not available. Being a bear of relatively little engineering brain, my reading of the information in both www.whnet.com/4x4/oil.html and www.mobil.co.nz suggests that only Mobil 1 5W-50 would be suitable for my 1985 300TD (engine 617.912). It meets MB spec 229.3 and does not require a fleece filter (whatever that is). So, am I correct in assuming that (a) this is the oil for me? (b) the standard MB oil filter will do the trick? (c) I can expect longer change intervals? (d) if yes to (c), I can change the oil and filter every 6000 miles (double existing interval) ? 9000 miles (treble)? Given that sale-price Mobil 1 5W-50 costs approx $NZ 12.50 per litre -- more than twice the price of discounted Shell Helix Diesel ($NZ 5.00 per litre) -- I'd have to double the change interval to break even. I suppose the saving in filter costs would help ($NZ 30 a filter), and long-term, the engine would be better off. Any advice would be appreciated. Euan 1985 300TD 5-spd manual 199K miles 1990 Toyota Hilux D/cab 4WD 139K km ___ Euan S Kennedy Christchurch 8006 New Zealand Phone +64 3 980 5712 Cellphone 027 326 3245 E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] 1974 240D
Anyone interested in a 1974 240D, I think has around 70-90K. Body in good shape. Located in Philly area. I test drove it. Some minor things but with a little tlc could be a very good daily driver. Real nice condition for a 115. If you are interested email me direct and I will hook you up. I was going to by but settled on a 123 chassis four banger. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty - fuel thermostat part availability? Thanks - I will try the local sources. On 11/14/05, Rusty Cullens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: $1.70, probably cheaper to get locally. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1974 240D
Auto matic - Original Message - From: "Sunil Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1974 240D stick shift or automatic? On 11/14/05, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What's the asking price? On 11/14/05, Tom Scordato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone interested in a 1974 240D, I think has around 70-90K. Body in good > shape. Located in Philly area. I test drove it. Some minor things but with > a little tlc could be a very good daily driver. Real nice condition for a > 115. > > If you are interested email me direct and I will hook you up. I was going > to by but settled on a 123 chassis four banger. > > Regards Tom Scordato > Bellefonte PA > - Original Message - > From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:42 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty - fuel thermostat part availability? > > > > Thanks - I will try the local sources. > > > > On 11/14/05, Rusty Cullens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> $1.70, probably cheaper to get locally. > >> > > -- > > OK Don, KD5NRO > > Norman, OK > > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC > > The FSM created the Diesel Benz > > http://www.venganza.org/ > > > > ___ > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > > > > ___ > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Help
Rusty Smells because this car is not a diesel (sorry could not resist) Do I get 10% of for being a wise &^%$#? Cheers Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "Rusty Cullens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mercedes mailing list'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Help Good idea Adrian. So it is. 10% off any order to the man that helps me solve this soon. The vent line that you had bad was located where? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adrian Murphy Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 4:00 PM To: 'Mercedes mailing list' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Help Well my 68 250 had a bad vent line connection and so it reeked of gas in the tank and I didn't notice until it snuck into the cockpit and made me start looking. But that was really odd I thought. I wonder if I would have been arrested in California with a car so old that the fuel tank had a vent line to (gasp) the outdoor air! I think you should offer a 10% discount to the person who can guess the problem. That way everyone will give it their full attention! ;^) Adrian Murphy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rusty Cullens Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 2:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Help Well, I'll be damned. I need help. My W108 1969 280SEL smells horribly of fuel in the cockpit, but there are no leaks anywhere to be found. Anybody ever experience this? Clogged air filter maybe? Rusty Cullens 1-800-741-5252 http://www.BuyMBpart ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] 1974 240D Philly area
This is the one I went and looked at before I settled on my 79 240D (just can not part with 123) See or do a search on Big Lot http://www.thebiglot.com/ad_auto.asp?WI=945342612&MK=MERCEDES%20BENZ&MD=240D&PN=1&AT=1&; Car is still for sale, guy called me today he would reduce price. Might be worth a look see, I think the tranny made need work or some vacuum adjustments if applicable for that model. If you are looking for a 115 chassis this is pretty nice very very little if any rust., I drove her not bad, but needs some work, minor stuff as these cars always need. Regards Tom Body is in very good shape, - Original Message - From: "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 7:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1974 240D What's the asking price? On 11/14/05, Tom Scordato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anyone interested in a 1974 240D, I think has around 70-90K. Body in good shape. Located in Philly area. I test drove it. Some minor things but with a little tlc could be a very good daily driver. Real nice condition for a 115. If you are interested email me direct and I will hook you up. I was going to by but settled on a 123 chassis four banger. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty - fuel thermostat part availability? > Thanks - I will try the local sources. > > On 11/14/05, Rusty Cullens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> $1.70, probably cheaper to get locally. >> > -- > OK Don, KD5NRO > Norman, OK > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC > The FSM created the Diesel Benz > http://www.venganza.org/ > > ___ > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1974 240D Philly area
stick shift or automatic? Automatic - Original Message - From: "Sunil Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1974 240D stick shift or automatic? On 11/14/05, LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What's the asking price? On 11/14/05, Tom Scordato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyone interested in a 1974 240D, I think has around 70-90K. Body in good > shape. Located in Philly area. I test drove it. Some minor things but with > a little tlc could be a very good daily driver. Real nice condition for a > 115. > > If you are interested email me direct and I will hook you up. I was going > to by but settled on a 123 chassis four banger. > > Regards Tom Scordato > Bellefonte PA > - Original Message - > From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 1:42 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rusty - fuel thermostat part availability? > > > > Thanks - I will try the local sources. > > > > On 11/14/05, Rusty Cullens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> $1.70, probably cheaper to get locally. > >> > > -- > > OK Don, KD5NRO > > Norman, OK > > '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC > > The FSM created the Diesel Benz > > http://www.venganza.org/ > > > > ___ > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > > > > ___ > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] MB Nice 1979 300D for Sale South Jersey
No Affiliation, no kick backs just passing this on for the good of the list I test drove this car a while back. One of the nicest 300Ds I have seen on east coast. Maintained and records are at MB dealer in Philly area I forget which one but I did speak to them. Guy who owns it now, Joe is the second owner. Car is pristine. Interior is one of the best I have seen, folks who owned it must of weighed 100 lbs or less. If I did not just buy a 240 D and own a 300D, I would probablly make an offer. The only thing off was engine compartment needed detailing. Has a two tone paint job. No rust that I saw. I have pictures if you want email me off line and I will forward them on. Miles are original. Here is his recent message to me. "The 1979 300D has 93000 original miles. It is equipped with Power sun roof, auto, 5 cyl.diesel, p. windows, p. Locks, original Becker stereo, Power antenna, Auto air conditioning (working perfectly), Nail Guard tires in new condition. Selling priced to move at 6500.00. Please call me at 609-707-6050 , email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] for any additional info.Pictures attached." Again I have no affiliation but it would be nice to see this go to someone who needs a good daily driver and can keep this bear going. Sure beats paying for a new or used disposal car. Feel free to contact him. I think he would let it go for 5K maybe less if you pushed it. His wife is on him to get it the *&&%% out of there. (women do not like these cars much) Real nice example of a 123 chassis 300D, real nice. Regards Tom Scordato
[MBZ] The old toe flick
1977 300D Have an accelortor pedal or linkgage that is getting stuck in high fire. Will trouble shoot soon . Any suggestions besides the "toe flick" to release it? Cheers Tom Scordato
Re: [MBZ] How far can you drive a diesel with faiIed charging sys?
If you turn everything hvac/electrical off and you do not need any lights or radio, a fairly long time... - Original Message - From: "R A Bennell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] How far can you drive a diesel with faiIed charging sys? Unless it is really dark out - that may limit how far one gets. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of wilton strickland Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] How far can you drive a diesel with faiIed charging sys? 'Til it's out of fuel. Wilton ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Noise, Speedo????
Car is a 1979 240 D with 75K. Drove it this week end and it develped a noise around 35 mph might be coming from instrument cluster. Kind of a high to midrange noise. Once car drops below 35 mph and is rolling with no load on the engine, Noise stops. Noise is independent of fuel throttle and not an engine or tranny noise.I do not think it is brakes or a bad inner and outer bearing on the front wheels which is the first thing that popped into my head. Anyone ever had this happen? My thoughts are maybe the odometer needs service or the speedo cable is getting fried. I have had a speedo cable go on my 1977 but it was working one second, stopped the next. Your thoughts please. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA
[MBZ] Tires 123 240D
Anyone recommend tires real quick. All highway driving, all season radials a must. I Cruise at 65 to 72 mph pretty steady. 0-60mph in about an hour. Thanks Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 6:24 PM Subject: [MBZ] 603 engine http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-300D-300-300SRD-123-124-126-Turbo-Diesel-eng_W0QQitemZ8016864661QQcategoryZ33615QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] odometer skipping
Try pushing the trip to zero a few times. If this does not bring her back will have to remove and overhaul. Not a hard job. There are some DIY links on how to do it (I do not have them handy but have seen them) or you can send to Overseas Speedometer and for about $50-$70 hey can do it plus shipping. Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "Jerry Herrman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 11:13 PM Subject: [MBZ] odometer skipping This evening as I drove off in my 82 240D, I heard for the first time a periodic clicking type sound coming from the instrument cluster. In checking, I found that the trip odometer wasn't turning. I'm guessing some gear wheel is not engaged properly with whatever it is supposed to turn. What is the action to take to correct this? Am I further damaging it by continuing to drive? Should I disconnect the speedometer cable to avoid further damage? I cut short my trip and went directly back home, so I don't know if this is affecting the main odometer. Looking for a solution. Thanks in advance. Jerry 82 240D Beginning to fall apart ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Speedo No a go go
Happy Thanksgiving car is a 1977 300D. Been about 50k miles a little over a year since I changed out speedo cable. Got in car this morn and going down road noticed nothing happened. No speed, no trip odometer (tried zeroing in) movement, no main mileage odometer movement. This was right after starting the vehicle. We had a wicked yankee clipper come through yesterday so I figured maybe things froze up. Got the cabin nice and toasty and ran the piss out of the car on the express way for about 15 miles. No go. Symptoms seem to indicate speedo cable. Do they only last 50k miles. Last time I did the cable I had the odometer sent off to have serviced. Any thoughts please. Regards Tom Scordato 1977 300D 262K miles 1979 240D 26K miles
Re: [MBZ] Clock Help
Overseas Speedometer fixes them or used units are often up on eBay. Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "Vernon Ritchey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 12:54 AM Subject: [MBZ] Clock Help The clock in my 82 300SD finally quit. From initial inspection, it appears that the resistor just abobe the crystal is cooked. Can anyone advise how to proceed? Id the cooked resistor the problem or just a symptom of some other problem? Does anyone have a schematic? Are these things DYI fixable or do I need to send it somewhere? Any help appreciated. Scott Ritchey, Kittrell, NC 1982 300 SD 225K miles 1979 300 TD 355K miles ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Clock Help
Sorry forgot the web site for Overseas Speedo Talk to Rick or James 1-800-444-0292 http://www.speedometer.com/index.html - Original Message - From: "Tom Scordato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Vernon Ritchey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clock Help Overseas Speedometer fixes them or used units are often up on eBay. Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "Vernon Ritchey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 12:54 AM Subject: [MBZ] Clock Help The clock in my 82 300SD finally quit. From initial inspection, it appears that the resistor just abobe the crystal is cooked. Can anyone advise how to proceed? Id the cooked resistor the problem or just a symptom of some other problem? Does anyone have a schematic? Are these things DYI fixable or do I need to send it somewhere? Any help appreciated. Scott Ritchey, Kittrell, NC 1982 300 SD 225K miles 1979 300 TD 355K miles ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Cold Weather Get In and Go
Curt said "To do that I lug a 110ah battery down to the car." Curt I take it you use too batteries to start the car? Just wondering Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA 1977 300D 262K 1979 240D 76K - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold Weather Get In and Go Hi Bob, Interestingly on my 240D anyway as soon as you turn the key to on the temp needle comes off the cold peg If its very cold, like below 0F I'll use the block heater. To do that I lug a 110ah battery down to the car. So after the car is started I'll let it idle while I hike the battery back upstairs and put it on the charger. Then I'll usually have another cup of coffee before heading to work. Marshall's contention about not letting the car idle is mostly because of carbon build up. Since I have a 80 mile roundtrip highway commute I'm not real worried about carbon buildup. One time 2 winters ago the glowplugs on Hammie failed so I left him running at work all day. (it was 10F, he'd never have started without glowplugs) -Curt '83 240D "Hammie" 248kmi Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:07:44 -0700 From: "Bob Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MBZ] Cold Weather Get In and Go To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" We were having discussions today at the old nuke plant about cold weather starting (well...cold by our standards [39 degrees]). Some were saying as soon as one sees oil pressure, you can take off like a scalded dog...both for gassers and diesels. Others say let it warm until it's off the cold peg. Dr. Booth has always said MB diesels were not intended to idle for more than a couple of minutes. Since it very seldom gets cold here, I've forgotten. When I lived in IL back in the day, I just plugged in my 220D each night when it was cold and the temp gauge was always off the cold peg. What's the deal? Bob Rentfro '77 300D 144K Litchfield Park, AZ - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Cold Weather Get In and Go
Curt, I see, I see very thoughful with the Marine Battery. You doing that is truely "love". I travel allot in sales and some times I stay at hotels in the Northeast, New England/Upstate NY area. When I check into a hotel, I ask for the spot for the "handicapped car" which translates into I need an outdoor 110 volt plug for my 1977 300D and my 100 foot extention cord. I find myself always looking where there are 110 volt outdoor plug ins near parking lots and other areas as I travel. Funny how that goes Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold Weather Get In and Go Nope, I use the marine battery to power the block heater. Technically I use the battery to power an inverter to power the heater but you get the idea. 3rd floor walkup, my apartment is on the other side of the building. We're looking to buy a condo with parking lot exposure so I don't have to do this any more. -Curt Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:39:10 -0500 From: "Tom Scordato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cold Weather Get In and Go To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Curt said "To do that I lug a 110ah battery down to the car." Curt I take it you use too batteries to start the car? Just wondering Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA 1977 300D 262K 1979 240D 76K - Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] E 300 305K miles
A business associate of mine has a 1992 E 300 MB gasser for sale will let go cheap. He has no idea how much it is worth so it is a "make an offer type thing". Car is in NC. I know nothing about these cars, I do not even know if the model I have given is correct. I have not pictures. Car I have been told is in really shape. Owner of vehicle is the president of an energy recovery and process water equipment manufacturer he is second owner. If interested email me off line and I can give you his contact info. I have no affiliation. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards Tom Scordato
Re: [MBZ] E 300 305K miles
Larry T is reported to have said> "Also, with 305k what kind of work has been done to the engine & tranny? If it were a diesel it *might* be on the original engine, but I doubt a gasser would" I know nothing about these cars whether they last 40,000 miles or 900,000 miles. Like you Larry, I am still in the last century with the 617.9 four and five banger non turbo diesels. If anyone are interested in going back and forth with the seller contact me off line, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I believe drive train is original though. Like you Larry, I am still in the last century with the 617.9 four and five banger non turbo diesels. thanks Larry T. Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA 1977 300D 261K miles 1979 240D 76K miles - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] E 300 305K miles Tom, You wrote:< shape.>> Is that really "good" or really "bad"? ;-) Also, with 305k what kind of work has been done to the engine & tranny? If it were a diesel it *might* be on the original engine, but I doubt a gasser would. Sincerely, Larry T (78 240D) A Blood Test for your oil - www.youroil.net For Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil Weber Carb Stuff http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs http://members.rennlist.com/my_911/Index.htm For my Paint Job Info - Original Message - From: "Tom Scordato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Vernon Ritchey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 3:46 PM Subject: [MBZ] E 300 305K miles A business associate of mine has a 1992 E 300 MB gasser for sale will let go cheap. He has no idea how much it is worth so it is a "make an offer type thing". Car is in NC. I know nothing about these cars, I do not even know if the model I have given is correct. I have not pictures. Car I have been told is in really shape. Owner of vehicle is the president of an energy recovery and process water equipment manufacturer he is second owner. If interested email me off line and I can give you his contact info. I have no affiliation. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards Tom Scordato ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] What about this schtict?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SAVE-PETROL-BOOST-POWER-Easy-to-install_W0QQitemZ8019263964QQcategoryZ34221QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA
Re: [MBZ] cold day reflections on owning a diesel
LT Don said "father of a girl going off to the prom, asking for a set of wheels. A Sprinter is the wrong choice!" Yeah I just bought a 240D for my girls who are coming of age. The non turbo 300D was just too fast At least it is candy apple red... (they hate it and may never rive it too "retro") Tom Scordato 1977 300D 261k 1979 240D 76k - Original Message - From: "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold day reflections on owning a diesel I think I remember being 32. I was flying Beechcraft T-34's upside down over Florida and Alabama. No, that was when I was 31. Oh, I can't remember -- probably living in New York City (Governors Island). Anyway, I agree with your philosophy -- drive them until the cops yank you off of the road. As for the Sprinter for the daughters: I've already told you this, you have not yet been the father of a girl going off to the prom, asking for a set of wheels. A Sprinter is the wrong choice! D. On 12/2/05, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That's my answer too. "If I don't wreck it, I don't plan on ever buying another car again." True, I'm only 32, but I'll probably follow the family pattern and die young. -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] cold day reflections on owning a diesel
Dave Brodbeck wrote: "DAMN STRAIGHT! When I was in high school I got whatever car the other family members didn't want to drive anymore -- first a rusty '87 Ford Aerostar 5-speed, then an '85 Ford Crown Victoria with faded paint and a slashed vinyl top. I didn't care how old or ugly they were, I was just glad to have something to drive" When I was in high I did not have a car not many of us did. Dave, least you had the 1985 crown vic and the space shuttle astrovan to put around in. You were doing real well. Heck my wife and kid family car was a 1989 Mercury Marcquee (sp) (ah the woody one of the best cars to roll out of Mo town) up until 2003. I am sure folks older than me can remember much harder times still than the premadonna stuff I am spewing. With my present economic situation and profession which is decent thank God, letting the girls learn on a car which cost $2,000 I do not look upon as a big thing when the heavy hitters in Greenwich Conn. are buying their kids $80,000 Lexus's. I and my girls are not too "blanking" picky at all. If I were I would not be driving a car which is almost 30 years old and doing much of the work my self. I would be driving a disposable rock climber like most of my peers. On the contrary, I consider myself and my kids just the opposite of picky. I am Spartan and pretty retro. With a little Great-Depression attitude sprinkled in to keep me honest. That is this coal-cracker's 2 cents, nuff said. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: "David Brodbeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold day reflections on owning a diesel Mike Canfield wrote: KIDS TOO FUCKING PICKY! Who gives a fuck what color it is.What other kids get a Benz given to them? They should be grateful and ask how much extra they need to work to earn a new paintjob in the color of THIER choice, even if that color IS terrible. DAMN STRAIGHT! When I was in high school I got whatever car the other family members didn't want to drive anymore -- first a rusty '87 Ford Aerostar 5-speed, then an '85 Ford Crown Victoria with faded paint and a slashed vinyl top. I didn't care how old or ugly they were, I was just glad to have something to drive. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] cold day reflections on owning a diesel
Don oh that WV Bitumonous coal, golden nice stuff!!!/Tom - Original Message - From: "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold day reflections on owning a diesel Tom: I grew up around coal crackers. They were all driving old Jeeps so they could get to the cateye shift at the Consolidated Coal #x. Don formerly of Farimont WV On 12/3/05, Tom Scordato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That is this coal-cracker's 2 cents, nuff said. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: "David Brodbeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold day reflections on owning a diesel > Mike Canfield wrote: >> KIDS TOO FUCKING PICKY! Who gives a fuck what color it is.What >> other kids get a Benz given to them? They should be grateful and ask how >> much extra they need to work to earn a new paintjob in the color of THIER >> choice, even if that color IS terrible. >> > > DAMN STRAIGHT! When I was in high school I got whatever car the other > family members didn't want to drive anymore -- first a rusty '87 Ford > Aerostar 5-speed, then an '85 Ford Crown Victoria with faded paint and > a > slashed vinyl top. I didn't care how old or ugly they were, I was just > glad to have something to drive. > > > ___ > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] cold day reflections on owning a diesel
Times were tough. Now people are no longer amazed by indoor plumbingwhat a shame... - Original Message - From: "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold day reflections on owning a diesel You didn't even have indoor plumbing, did you? I can still remember homes with outhouses, and I was born in the early 50s. On 12/3/05, Harry Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tom Wrote" "I am sure folks older than me can remember much harder times still than the premadonna stuff I am spewing." Do any of you remember when all headlights were required to have the top half of the lens blacked out? We probably had it bad but didn't realize it. Many families did not have a car, the ones that did shared. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans > > When I was in high I did not have a car not many of us did. Dave, > least you > had the 1985 crown vic and the space shuttle astrovan to put around in. You > were doing real well. Heck my wife and kid family car was a 1989 Mercury > Marcquee (sp) (ah the woody one of the best cars to roll out of Mo town) up > until 2003. I am sure folks older than me can remember much harder times > still than the premadonna stuff I am spewing. > > With my present economic situation and profession which is decent thank God, > letting the girls learn on a car which cost $2,000 I do not look upon > as a > big thing when the heavy hitters in Greenwich Conn. are buying their kids > $80,000 Lexus's. I and my girls are not too "blanking" picky at all. If I > were I would not be driving a car which is almost 30 years old and > doing > much of the work my self. I would be driving a disposable rock climber like > most of my peers. On the contrary, I consider myself and my kids just the > opposite of picky. I am Spartan and pretty retro. With a little > Great-Depression attitude sprinkled in to keep me honest. > > That is this coal-cracker's 2 cents, nuff said. > Regards Tom Scordato > Bellefonte PA ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] if, after months, nobody will bid on car at $750 does this dude think somebody will buy it now?
Kaleb, How can this guy call it a 300 "D". The d is gone man/Tom - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Banned List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 8:33 PM Subject: [MBZ] if, after months, nobody will bid on car at $750 does this dude think somebody will buy it now? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-MERCEDES-300D-WITH-380-V8-CONVERSION-NO-RUST-TEXAS_W0QQitemZ4594415201QQcategoryZ39405QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] cold day reflections on owning a diesel
Harry said "We probably had it bad but didn't realize it. Many families did not have a car, the ones that did shared." Amen Harry, Amen - Original Message - From: "Harry Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold day reflections on owning a diesel Tom Wrote" "I am sure folks older than me can remember much harder times still than the premadonna stuff I am spewing." Do any of you remember when all headlights were required to have the top half of the lens blacked out? We probably had it bad but didn't realize it. Many families did not have a car, the ones that did shared. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans When I was in high I did not have a car not many of us did. Dave, least you had the 1985 crown vic and the space shuttle astrovan to put around in. You were doing real well. Heck my wife and kid family car was a 1989 Mercury Marcquee (sp) (ah the woody one of the best cars to roll out of Mo town) up until 2003. I am sure folks older than me can remember much harder times still than the premadonna stuff I am spewing. With my present economic situation and profession which is decent thank God, letting the girls learn on a car which cost $2,000 I do not look upon as a big thing when the heavy hitters in Greenwich Conn. are buying their kids $80,000 Lexus's. I and my girls are not too "blanking" picky at all. If I were I would not be driving a car which is almost 30 years old and doing much of the work my self. I would be driving a disposable rock climber like most of my peers. On the contrary, I consider myself and my kids just the opposite of picky. I am Spartan and pretty retro. With a little Great-Depression attitude sprinkled in to keep me honest. That is this coal-cracker's 2 cents, nuff said. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] cold day reflections on owning a diesel
Christopher said: "The depression certainly created a mindset in that generation and it is unfortunately lost in my generation." Good stories Christopher yeah and when they are all gone forever this country will never be the same. We have become a nation afraid of our own shawdow... Case in point all the TV adds for drugs which say "Ask your doctor about so and so.." My parents would have A) not worried about it B) waited for the doctor to prescribe it only as a last resort. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefone PA. - Original Message - From: "Christopher McCann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Harry Watkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] cold day reflections on owning a diesel on the other extreme: my four year old, when in a 1991 Toyota Tercel asked (with hand on the window crank), "What is this TURNY thing?" My Gramma (SW PA, NW W.Va) chewed road tar for gum, had their stove repossesed by Sears & Roebuck (while in use!), and her brothers pushed coal off of moving trains, hopped off and collected it. One of the brothers is now a millionaire but that's becuase he worked four jobs his whole life and never spent a penny. The depression certainly created a mindset in that generation and it is unfortunately lost in my generation. My grandfather can BARELY pass a TV on the side of the road without pulling the copper coil out of the back (and he is by no means poor)...just what happens to people who nearly starve to death. Chris Harry Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When you were born, I was a Marine without indoor plumbing in Korea. Growing up, we moved into a house with plumbing when I was in the 2nd grade. Harry Watkins Newton, MS 86 SDL Silver 85 300D Euro 86 SDL Gold 81 240D manual trans - Original Message - From: "LT Don" You didn't even have indoor plumbing, did you? I can still remember homes with outhouses, and I was born in the early 50s. On 12/3/05, Harry Watkins wrote: > > Tom Wrote" > > "I am sure folks older than me can remember much harder times > still than the premadonna stuff I am spewing." > > Do any of you remember when all headlights were required to have the top > half of the lens blacked out? > > We probably had it bad but didn't realize it. Many families did not have > a > car, the ones that did shared. > > Harry Watkins ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose" -1987 300TD, 150K, "Rotkäppchen" -1985 300SD, 210K, "Wulf" -1976 240D, ?K, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger" - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] The Mystery is Gone !!!
Last year I was trying to figure out A) if I have 110volt power to my block heater extention cord at the block heater plug. That is easy a $5.00 light up plug circuit tester. But that only says you have power, not that the heater is infact working. B) if I have 110 power to the block heater plug how do I know I am in fact drawing power the the heater itself right then so it can impart its heat to the block coolant. I can listen for a quite "hiss". I can come back out in an hour or two and feel the thermosate housing on the engine. I can turn the ignition on in an hour or two or you can http://www.elliotlake.com/plugrite/ Thought this was neat. It actually tells that you have power and the heater is actually drawing power. Now as if only there were more public outlets in parking lots when car has to be left for long hours?? Regards Tom Scordato 1977 300D 261Kmiles 1979 240D 76K miles
Re: [MBZ] 300D, 1975
Looks like the engine valve cover and compressor have been spray painted, could be wron though.. - Original Message - From: "andrew strasfogel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D, 1975 Wonder if it's Armor All.. Still, this is by far the nicest 115 300D I've seen in a long time. On 12/6/05, Lee Levitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bob writes: > That looks nice...however it looks like the interior has been > sprayed with vasoline. There was a short period of time in the late '70s or maybe early '80s where the hot tip for keeping dash vinyl intact was to coat it with baby oil. Guess this seller didn't hear that it didn't work... Also, while the car does look nice, it also looks like it's been resprayed. Lee > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=45954310 > > 23&fromMakeTrack=true ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] The Mystery is Gone !!!
Hans said "Ohm's Law: Volts sqare/Watts = Ohms or Volts/Amps = Ohms" Yeah that is all good. But I want something that can tell me is the block heater working, ie drawing power and getting juice when it is 5 below zero F, the wind is blowing 30mph, my bag ass is frozen, no feelings in my fingers, I have to get up at 1:00AM to drive 500 miles one way to Boston, or Chicago. Then I need to stay in a hotel, haul out my 100 foot extention cord and do it all again and pray there is an outdoor outlet within 100 feet. So playing with lights in series, playing with electric meters at home, or calculating things is just not as practical as a little $20 widget you plug in in series and it tells you. A) you got juice B) you are actually drawing power at the heater. Regards Tom Scordato 1977 300D 261K miles 1979 240D 76K miles - Original Message - From: "Hans Neureiter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Mystery is Gone !!! Ohm's Law: Volts sqare/Watts = Ohms or Volts/Amps = Ohms On 12/6/05, Hans Neureiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Shut everything off in the hause, refrigerator, alarm clock and all, and see if the meter is still runnung. One easy way to figure if the heater is OK is to put a $ 5 Ohmeter to it and to apply Ohm's Law. -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D On 12/6/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jim Cathey wrote: > >> I can listen for a quiet "hiss". I can come back out in an hour or > >> two and > >> feel the thermostat housing on the engine. I can turn the ignition > on > >> in an > >> hour or two > > > > You can also use the common (and cheap) multimeter to measure > > the current to the plug, though that may require a jumper wire > > or two and some care as not to electrocute yourself. > > > > Or for even less expense, though more electrocution risk, you > > hook a light bulb in series with your plug and see if it lights > > up. > > Plugging the block heat in or disconnecting it in the dark USUALLY > draws > a sufficient arc to be detectable. > > Marshall > -- > Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) > "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D > 2.5 > turbo 237kmi > > ___ > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] The Mystery is Gone !!!
now that is what I am talking about!, Thanks Dave/Tom Kill A Watt http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-P4400-P3-Kill-A-Watt-meter-reduce-your-energy-bill_W0QQitemZ6019874171QQcategoryZ3240QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -Dave Walton 94 S350, 99 E300 On 12/7/05, Tom Scordato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hans said "Ohm's Law: Volts sqare/Watts = Ohms or Volts/Amps = Ohms" Yeah that is all good. But I want something that can tell me is the block heater working, ie drawing power and getting juice when it is 5 below zero F, the wind is blowing 30mph, my bag ass is frozen, no feelings in my fingers, I have to get up at 1:00AM to drive 500 miles one way to Boston, or Chicago. Then I need to stay in a hotel, haul out my 100 foot extention cord and do it all again and pray there is an outdoor outlet within 100 feet. So playing with lights in series, playing with electric meters at home, or calculating things is just not as practical as a little $20 widget you plug in in series and it tells you. A) you got juice B) you are actually drawing power at the heater. Regards Tom Scordato 1977 300D 261K miles 1979 240D 76K miles - Original Message - From: "Hans Neureiter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Mystery is Gone !!! > Ohm's Law: Volts sqare/Watts = Ohms > or Volts/Amps = Ohms > > > On 12/6/05, Hans Neureiter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Shut everything off in the hause, refrigerator, alarm clock and all, >> and >> see if the meter is still runnung. >> One easy way to figure if the heater is OK is to put a $ 5 Ohmeter to >> it >> and to apply Ohm's Law. >> -- >> Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX >> '82 300SD, '95 E300D >> >> On 12/6/05, Marshall Booth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > Jim Cathey wrote: >> > >> I can listen for a quiet "hiss". I can come back out in an hour >> > >> or >> > >> two and >> > >> feel the thermostat housing on the engine. I can turn the >> > >> ignition >> > on >> > >> in an >> > >> hour or two >> > > >> > > You can also use the common (and cheap) multimeter to measure >> > > the current to the plug, though that may require a jumper wire >> > > or two and some care as not to electrocute yourself. >> > > >> > > Or for even less expense, though more electrocution risk, you >> > > hook a light bulb in series with your plug and see if it lights >> > > up. >> > >> > Plugging the block heat in or disconnecting it in the dark USUALLY >> > draws >> > a sufficient arc to be detectable. >> > >> > Marshall >> > -- >> > Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) >> > "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D >> > 2.5 >> > turbo 237kmi >> > >> > ___ >> > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >> > >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX > '82 300SD, '95 E300D > ___ > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] my wife did it!
Chris said "It warmed my heart. :-)" good lady...that OM603 oh I mean your wife too! My wife said (as they often due in New England, she is a Yankee) when I brought the first one home, "you are out of your gourd". Now this time when I flew out to Phoenix solo and drove the 1979 240D cross country 2900 miles just for a little road trip she was really blown away. (the 7000 foot climb to Flagstaff blew 25 years worth or carbon out of her) She will not even attempt to drive the 123 chassis diesel "oo it smells..." I think she says. Regards Tom Bellefonte PA 1977 300D 261K miles 1979 240D 76K miles - Original Message - From: "Christopher McCann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:25 PM Subject: [MBZ] my wife did it! 11 F in KC -1 with wind chill. She called and asked "will my car start?" I told her if she follows my instructions, it will. Two minutes later, with the OM603 humming in the background, she called back and pronounced it started on the second crank. No block heater in it, strange for a car that was in Iowa its whole life. She said, "Well, if it's my car, I better know how to work it." It warmed my heart. :-) Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose" -1987 300TD, 150K, "Rotkäppchen" -1985 300SD, 210K, "Wulf" -1976 240D, ?K, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger" - Yahoo! Personals Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet. Lots of someones, actually. Try Yahoo! Personals ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Tires for free
Tires, Two (2) Pirelli P 4000s, P195/70 R 14 Two (2) tires in good shape. Less than 5000 miles on them. FREE for the pair you pick up. Tires are all season radials, "Super Touring" Came off a 1979 240D. You come and pick up, you can have em free. I am not messing with sending them. see http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/pts/114839017.html for photos Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA
[MBZ] Amsoil verse Mobil 1
I know this has been beat to death,time and time again but I am have trouble getting synthetic Mobil 1 for the weight I need at Wally World or the other auto places. I would love to find the M! 5w-40 but can not seem to find it. I have been running the 15w-50 M1 extended service now that I cannot get it in the standard Synthetic mode, but that is getting tough to get. Can you order non stocked stuff from Wally world web page?? Any one can coment on the AMSOIL Synthetic Heavy Duty Diesel & Marine Motor Oil (AME) and how that holds up. It is a 15w-40 weight. Anyone have any luck with this oil? Marshall please chime in. Everything I read is written by AMSOIL so it seems somewhat slanted when comparing Mobil 1 in Amsoils favor Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA
Re: [MBZ] Amsoil verse Mobil 1
Marshal said " Tom, Mobil supplies the base stock to Amsoil. The Mobil tribologists I've talked with are very complementary about Amsoil. They point out that the Amsoil synthetics are VERY good oil - even better than Mobil for SOME special applications. It has NO advantage over Mobil for use in YOUR engine - and it is more expensive than MOBIL. Mobil 1 15W-50 Ext is fine. I prefer Mobil 1 Truck and SUV 5W-40 because it's cheaper. Mobil 1 0W-40 is also fine but I'd probably mix 0W-40 and 15W-50 (probably not necessary)." Thanks Marshall for the information. It is hard to find the "non extended" oils at Walmart or other suppliers up here near State College. I just changed oil in my 240D with the 15w-50 M1 extended. (prevoius owner used only standard oil) About a year ago Wal-Mart quite carrying the non extended M1 (with the red cap) in that weight. Everything else is 30 weight. Ah it is ok with the price of fuel a few extra $ every oil change will not kill me. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA 1977 300d 261K miles 1979 240D 76K miles Regards Tom - Original Message - From: "Marshall Booth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil verse Mobil 1 Tom Scordato wrote: I know this has been beat to death,time and time again but I am have trouble getting synthetic Mobil 1 for the weight I need at Wally World or the other auto places. I would love to find the M! 5w-40 but can not seem to find it. I have been running the 15w-50 M1 extended service now that I cannot get it in the standard Synthetic mode, but that is getting tough to get. Can you order non stocked stuff from Wally world web page?? Any one can coment on the AMSOIL Synthetic Heavy Duty Diesel & Marine Motor Oil (AME) and how that holds up. It is a 15w-40 weight. Anyone have any luck with this oil? Marshall please chime in. Everything I read is written by AMSOIL so it seems somewhat slanted when comparing Mobil 1 in Amsoils favor Tom, Mobil supplies the base stock to Amsoil. The Mobil tribologists I've talked with are very complementary about Amsoil. They point out that the Amsoil synthetics are VERY good oil - even better than Mobil for SOME special applications. It has NO advantage over Mobil for use in YOUR engine - and it is more expensive than MOBIL. Mobil 1 15W-50 Ext is fine. I prefer Mobil 1 Truck and SUV 5W-40 because it's cheaper. Mobil 1 0W-40 is also fine but I'd probably mix 0W-40 and 15W-50 (probably not necessary). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Tires for free
nuff talk. Any one want em? They are free...come and get em. Tom - Original Message - From: "TimothyPilgrim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 7:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tires for free Good in the snow? Damn. I spent good money on Michelin X-Ice's. Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 12/8/05, tom savage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: TimothyPilgrim wrote: > Those are what came on my wagon when I bought it. I wasn't too > confident in them, but then realized it was the steering box. Anybody > else running these? I have on my 300D and was pretty impressed with them. Ride and handling were better than any other of the motley cheap tire collection I've used on the 123, and they were great in the snow. Didn't last very long, but I think they're only claimed to be a 40k mile tire. I'd buy 'em again (and probably will soon, for the Passat). Tom ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter misadventures
Here is my method I fill my New canister filter with clean kerosene. Eliminates the air pocket caused by dry filter. If no kerosene, poor old canister filter diesel into the new filter carefully. The half a pint of unfiltered diesel will not hurt you. Then carefully new filter screw back on. May still run some what rough but usually not. Helps if car is hot. I change my in line and canister filters every when I do my lube oil change and that I do after I have run the car on highway for 20-30 miles or so. After change get in have fun and run her like hell. these old cars are not pieces of furniture, They are best if run on highway continuously. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA 1977 300D 262K miles 1979 240D 76K miles - Original Message - From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel filter misadventures I've only changed the bolt-on filter on a 617 once, but here's how it went: Replaced filter (dry, I don't like to pour unfiltered fuel into the center where it will go straight to the IP) with the engine hot. Started car w/ about 1/4 throttle. It started immediately, then began to misfire. Tried to hold 2000rpm on the tach to keep it from stalling. After the engine was running smoothly, let it idle a bit, then shut off. Total strokes on the leaky primer pump = zero. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] W123 limo going cheap
Look in the back ground on one of the photos nice 123 wagons and sedans possibly for sale??/Tom - Original Message - From: "Hendrik Riessen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 limo going cheap Yes it could, http://www.w123-world.org/showthread.php?t=293 Hendrik - Original Message - From: "Alex Chamberlain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 limo going cheap On 12/11/05, Hendrik Riessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://club123d.org/listings/page10.html Wow, could that possibly be any uglier? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/193 - Release Date: 6/12/2005 ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] W123 limo going cheap
Alex Chamberlain wrote: Wow, could that possibly be any uglier? this would be right at home in New York City, Northern New Jersey and Long Island in the Mid 1980s. I think I remember seeing this on a sales road trip when I wore a younger man's clothes around 1984, must have been on the Garden State Parkway...or was it the L. I. E? The heavy hitters from the city eat it up, they love that kind of stuff... Cheers Tom Scordato
Re: [MBZ] Radio
Anyone need a nice Blaupunkt cassette am/fm player for their MB contact me off line for details. It works and is just sitting around. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA
Re: [MBZ] Rear Shock Absorbers
Hans said> "What I was told is if you push the bumper down and let go, it should come up and stay there. If it bounces up and down - needs new shocks." Not always the case. I did this test on my 1977 300D. Passed with flying colors, when I did the push test. But still drove like trash. Had old monroe shocks on it. Changed to Bilestiens. Best thing I ever did. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA 1977 300D 1979 240D - Original Message - From: "Hans Neureiter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear Shock Absorbers What I was told is if you push the bumper down and let go, it should come up and stay there. If it bounces up and down - needs new shocks. Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D On 12/13/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How do you know when to replace the shocks ? Does anybody ever just keep the orginals ?-- ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto
Wal-Mart- Number 1 employer in the United States. Used to be GM I believe for many years. We used to make/sell products we and the world consumed. Now we just consume the cheapest product we can. We are consumer whores with no regard for where this stuff is made, thus the evolution over the last 50 years to a "service economy" You can not last long as a 1st world nation unless you produce and manufacture products the world needs. You end up in dept. We are in goverment fiscal dept and a major trade debt. And that is what we have. We are the number 1 debtor nation on earth I believe.. I just hope the nations we are borrowing money from do not call us on these loans. This and our energy crisis are probably two of the worst problems facing this country. Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto liar? dunno - i don't know you personally - you very well could be. you are not the majority. the average small-town citizen enjoys the convenience of a Wal-Mart in or near their town. i'm not fooling anyone, btwas long as i'm paying for the livelihood of people that choose to sit on their ass and not work, i'm not living in a free society. p. Mitch Haley wrote: paul wrote: if that's so (which it's not), the communities obviously complied. it's not just the faceless corporate monolith that is getting it's way...people want those stores in their communities. You callin' me a liar, pardner? Walmart has done exactly as I claimed. I don't know how many times they have done it, but I do know they have done it once. And yes, such crimes require the complicity of a few elected officials, but that does not make it right. I don't care if every other citizen of these United States wants a Wally World on my land, it's my land, not theirs. If the basic right to own what you own gets tossed out (and a 5-4 majority of the supreme court did just that last year), you are only fooling yourself if you think you live in a free society. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto
"Sure, and a department manager can make a whopping $10/hr." I guess my question is, can Wal-Mart afford to pay their employees 2 , 3, 4, 5 times as much with all the bennys? Will their economic model support it and the dudes at the top still stay rich or at least have a decent income? If they can then there is a real crime. If they can not, if there is such a slight margin, then this is the way the economies of scale will level out to. It is a free market society. Although my personal jury is still out on Wal-Mart, few cries are heard when Lowes or Home Depot put the local hardware store guy out. Now one cried when the buggy whip guys went under. No one cried when in 1950 we had 20 major industrial boiler manufactures and now we have three. The way I see it (and I am not an economic major) is the world we live in is global like it or not. The job field is labor blue and white color is being "leveled" (which and until that leveling process emm "levels", expect a total decrease in out salaries, benefits, and number of skilled high paying jobs). Couple this with computer technology allowing folks anywhere to do anything, and our own suicidal tendencies (nafta, us not buying only American produces 20 - 40 years ago when we could have halted this, high cost of medicine, our tendency to be sue happy, pending natural disasters, debt, terrorists, shitty work ethic) things will get way worse. It is a very fragile system as Katrina and 9-11 proved. People will have to become like many of the folks in Maine. They sell things in the summer, do things in the winter, pick crops, fish, work a little job here and there. We have got to become survivors. Like we were in the pioneer days. In college (if you can afford the $20K to $70K per year nut and increasing by 6%-12% a year) we should major in a white collar things and blue collar things maybe welding or working heavy equipment. When one thing goes south, maybe you have the other to fall back on. The day is coming when I am afraid when working at Wal-Mart may be a major career move. I hope not but who knows. My advise is keep a gun and allot of cash on hand. Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "Luther Gulseth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto Sure, and a department manager can make a whopping $10/hr. ~ ~from what I understand they pay pretty decent for what sort of job it ~is, and they promote from within. Its a good way for otherwise ~untrained people to actually get somewhere in life ~ -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (230,xxx kmi) '82 300CD (158,222 kmi) '90 300E & '82 300D (parts or run?) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto
Jeff said "Did you know that the 70% or so of Americans carry a balance on their credit cards every month? The AVERAGE consumer debt of those carrying a balance is $9,000!! That's insane!" Jeff and they do not care at all that is insane! Fall of the Romans, nothing less. - Original Message - From: "Jeff Zedic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto Guess who's buying most of your new debt??? Hmmm, the very scary China! No respect for the rule of law! I did think that Tom's term "consumer whores" was very appropriate. Did you know that the 70% or so of Americans carry a balance on their credit cards every month? The AVERAGE consumer debt of those carrying a balance is $9,000!! That's insane! Jeff Zedic Toronto ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto
Brian said "We have just found it to be really annoying and less a nice experience to shop there" Shopping a pleasurable experience? That is an oxy moron. I get in I get out. It is torture, does not mater if it is Sachs 5th Ave or Kmart. Every time I have asked for help at the Walmarts in State College PA, I have always gotten help as needed. It is shopping, it is supposed to suck, like scrubbing toilets...unlike what allot of women will have you believe it is not a sport, it is a pass time...and for me a &^%$ty one, IMHO Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "Brian Chase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto Your'e kidding. Wow. I didn't look at the link yet, but that's shocking to me - taxpayers picking up health care insurance for these employees. Doesn't seem right at all. I'll chime in here with my opinion since everyone else is: I've heard a lot of anti WalMart talk lately in certain circles, and have assumed that some was justified, some may not be. It is interesting to me, though, that where one shops seems to say something about them. This speaks to the emerging classism that may be replacing racism in this country IMHO. Kind of interesting for me to observe that there are some people that frequent WalMart and Burger King, and others that frequent Target and Panera. I'm certainly not passing blanket judgement on WalMart shoppers - some of my family and best friends go there, and they're quality folks. We have just found it to be really annoying and less a nice experience to shop there. But I only have the luxury of saying this since being married to a woman with a much better career than I have. Were it not for that, I would be hitting WallyWorld all the time (but late, late at night when folks are not setting their cretins, er, kids loose in there to tire them out in the free air conditioning or heat). Brian From: David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 00:57:06 -0800 Just ran across this today. The Washington State government is subsidizing Wal-Mart to the tune of $12 million a year, by paying for employee health care: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002791346_walmart07m.html?syndication=rss The question is, is it really fair for an enormously profitable corporation to improve their bottom line by pushing the cost of keeping their employees healthy onto the taxpayers? They've found a way to externalize one of the biggest expenses their competitors have. If a company decided to stop maintaining its truck fleet's condition and just run them until they broke, we'd say it was stupid. But when a company like Wal Mart decides to stop "maintaining" their employees' health and just use them until they go onto public assistance, it's seen as a brilliant business move and they're rewarded for it. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto
"An economist would say that it will stop when the wages are equalized -- wages in poorer countries will rise, and wages in richer countries will fall, until they meet in the middle. If you're an economist, your only measure of people's well-being is GDP, and by that measure this kind of trade is actually a beneficial situation overall." Very true. But for a country who is used to getting X and to tell them (USA) they are going to be evolving into X minus 5000, that puts a real strain on their psycic. The greatest generation who survived the great depression might could handle this reversal. My/Xsersand new generations in US except for a few, I doubt can. See they have this entitlement mentality. May I dare say were are turning into a two class system (but everyone thinks they are rich!!!). Much better for third world people to take if the chart is going upword on their behalf. But looking out for the interest of America which is to be frank where my interets lie very bad for us spoiled Americans. What set this country apart from all others was our ability to establish and support a middle class system which had the where with all to consume/purchase the products that WE IN THE USA made. It also helped a great deal that the rest of the world used to purchase these too. I believe you cannot last long (on paper you can do anything to make it look good, but that is false Enron did that well) unless you make and sell products (big products, little products all kinds of stuff) which we use/purchase and the world does too. If we do not do this we will fail. Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "David Brodbeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this trend has to stop somewhere - I read recently that white collar jobs were being sent overseas like all the others. An economist would say that it will stop when the wages are equalized -- wages in poorer countries will rise, and wages in richer countries will fall, until they meet in the middle. If you're an economist, your only measure of people's well-being is GDP, and by that measure this kind of trade is actually a beneficial situation overall. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Wipers
Brian I have had Bosch Micro edges up north in PA for almost three years same pair on my 77 300D. I clean once in a while with 303 Aerospace protectorant Just showing signs of wear, but never make that funky noise or skip. Make sure you have no wax on your windshield/Tom - Original Message - From: "Brian Chase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 3:56 PM Subject: [MBZ] Wipers What do you guys think of Bosch wipers? I'd always bought Anco just 'cause I was used to 'em, but began to take note of how they begin to streak after just a couple uses. One night I picked up some Bosches, and they're better. I also recently got talked into buying the Bosch "platinum" or whatever the more expensive type is because they were offering a free $10 gift card. I'm not sure that I've noticed a difference with the more expensive Bosches over the regular Bosches. Brian 83 240D someone - forgot who - wrote: After seeing someone either here or mercedesshop mention Michelin wipers, I found them at WalMart today, $5.76 in all sizes up to 24". I bought one to replace a torn wiper on my Taurus. It was made in USA by Pylon, which has a license to sell wipers under the Michelin name. I drove home on a wet salty freeway, and can report that it wiped clean without chatter. I like it better than the ANCO Aerovantage blades on that car. I'll buy one for the other side next time I'm in town. _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto
"David Said "Just a fact to add to this: The national savings rate last year was -0.5%. Credit card debt fell slightly, but only because people were taking equity out of their homes to pay off their credit cards. Wages have not been keeping up with inflation in this economic recovery and people are getting squeezed" David we spend to much. In days past the only things you could get/they offered credit on where a mortgage, maybe a car, and maybe some furniture. Now we have no control on our spending. We are consumer whores. We only build big Tosh Mohall homes, not small ones. We have both parents working so we can buy more stuff. Our parents would have sold the home and rented to have a parent home before dropping kids off at a day care. Or they just would have gone without (what a concept, being frugal) Our priorities are all screwed up. Unlike my many of parents group, many do not have he displine to say no. Want at any cost. Matter of fact are not I am entitled to it? I see bidding wars for homes, "Oh you are asking $750,000 for that house, oh I will give you $800,000 for it. Heck in the old days even Rockefeller would haggle. No we do not haggle we BID UP! As the great Don Henly said in one of his songs, "we are a nation of noses pressed up against the glass, we see it on the TV we want it pretty fast". You can not blame corporate America. They have always been assholes. Business is like that small and large. It is not a cozy sene it is the trenches. But they also feed many folks. You/We are the government, and you control the buying. We have just let it all slide in our pursuit of what we as individuals want. I see Walmat as a perfect metamorphosis of this evolution of what we have become as consumers/people. Blaming Walmart is like killing the messenger. You do not like Walmart do not shop there. Do not like the contract they give you find a better one. If it is so bad for the employees let them form a union or quit. The imigrant coal miners and steel workers of years past had little options when they risked their family's welfare by doing the same. They had guts and would risk something for the good of the many. Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "David Brodbeck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto Tom Scordato wrote: Jeff said "Did you know that the 70% or so of Americans carry a balance on their credit cards every month? The AVERAGE consumer debt of those carrying a balance is $9,000!! That's insane!" Jeff and they do not care at all that is insane! Fall of the Romans, nothing less. Just a fact to add to this: The national savings rate last year was -0.5%. Credit card debt fell slightly, but only because people were taking equity out of their homes to pay off their credit cards. Wages have not been keeping up with inflation in this economic recovery and people are getting squeezed. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto
"One more point - this country's welfare for the rich and large corporations dwarfs that going to the poor --" Amen Don, Amen/Tom - Original Message - From: "OK Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto One more point - this country's welfare for the rich and large corporations dwarfs that going to the poor -- On 2/11/06, OK Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Since I work for one of the welfare agencies, I could drag out all the numbers, but to keep it simple, you can't get welfare just because you don't want to work. You have to fake an on-the-job injury to do that, for any length of time at least. Even then, it's real hard to get the system doctors to certify you for enough to get any money. The typical "welfare mom" has been left high and dry with several small kids by the wage earner of the family - for what ever reason. She's "on welfare" for 6 months to two years until she gets on her feet. Daycare for those small children can eat most of her wages, leaving them with choosing between food and electricity. I'm sure it's tougher this winter. There are a LOT of irresponsible men out there who don't think they have a responsibility to support the children they fathered. Those kids are growing up in neglectful daycare centers with other kids just like them, a single parent who is exhausted from trying to work (often more than one job) to feed them. It's no wonder society is falling apart at the seams - drug money and gangs look like the only way to survive to these kids, and their numbers are increasing every year. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto
"This ASIC engineer has been out of work since May. No sign of hiring in my field, or in related ones I'm probably still qualified in. One complication: I will not relocate to some wretched hell-on-earth like Silicon Valley. We have acreage, something you cannot find in a whole lot of places. _This_ is where we are going to raise our son." Again my theory about having a white collar skill and a blue collar skill such as heavy equipment operator or welding certificate. Especially us rural folks, have to be survivors, like our fore parents. Ditto on not every moving to the viper pit areas "some wretched hell-on-earth like", New York, LA, SF, Boston. If you do have to go there do the weekend warrior thing, leave the kids in a safe spot. Remember we own diesels, they love those 600 mile one way trips./ Tom - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto But I didn't worry, I had skills, and certifications, and schooling. I would venture forth and find me work. A week turned to three, then seven, then 3 months. This ASIC engineer has been out of work since May. No sign of hiring in my field, or in related ones I'm probably still qualified in. One complication: I will not relocate to some wretched hell-on-earth like Silicon Valley. We have acreage, something you cannot find in a whole lot of places. _This_ is where we are going to raise our son. Pity to hear about Iffy Lube being so picky, I was holding that prospect in reserve. I have yet to 'date outside my species', I suppose I had thought that option always to be there. I hope I don't find out otherwise! -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto
Lee may have said "this country are reaping record profits while most of us are seeing our earnings stagnate or decline" Just look at the fall of most unions effectiveness and this is one indicator that you are indeed right. We are becoming a two class system. I give it 40 maybe 75 years. It will I believe be much like South America. With the influx of people, many who do not care much for the traditions that built this country (like learning , wanting to learn and having to learn our language for starters)./Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto This reminds me of the logic by which Peru was once touted as a thriving economy. The average yearly income was around $20,000 per person, which sounds damn good for a south american country. On closer investigation, though, that was an average with considerable skew - most Peruvians lived in crushing poverty, with a few ruling families reaping astronomical profits off the country's natural resources, yielding a nice "average." It was rather like saying that if your feet are frozen in a block of ice and your head is dipped in boiling water you should " on average" be quite comfortable. Similarly, while our stock markets may be up and our GDP may look good, that may on closer investigation mean that a relatively small number of people in this country are reaping record profits while most of us are seeing our earnings stagnate or decline. Lee On Saturday 11 February 2006 1:41, David Brodbeck wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I think this trend has to stop somewhere - I read recently that white > collar jobs were being sent overseas like all the others. An economist would say that it will stop when the wages are equalized -- wages in poorer countries will rise, and wages in richer countries will fall, until they meet in the middle. If you're an economist, your only measure of people's well-being is GDP, and by that measure this kind of trade is actually a beneficial situation overall. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Wipers
Pep boys or Mercedessource.com carries them. No cheap/Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "Kaleb C. Striplin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wipers where can you get them? Walmart? Tom Scordato wrote: Brian I have had Bosch Micro edges up north in PA for almost three years same pair on my 77 300D. I clean once in a while with 303 Aerospace protectorant Just showing signs of wear, but never make that funky noise or skip. Make sure you have no wax on your windshield/Tom - Original Message - From: "Brian Chase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 3:56 PM Subject: [MBZ] Wipers What do you guys think of Bosch wipers? I'd always bought Anco just 'cause I was used to 'em, but began to take note of how they begin to streak after just a couple uses. One night I picked up some Bosches, and they're better. I also recently got talked into buying the Bosch "platinum" or whatever the more expensive type is because they were offering a free $10 gift card. I'm not sure that I've noticed a difference with the more expensive Bosches over the regular Bosches. Brian 83 240D someone - forgot who - wrote: After seeing someone either here or mercedesshop mention Michelin wipers, I found them at WalMart today, $5.76 in all sizes up to 24". I bought one to replace a torn wiper on my Taurus. It was made in USA by Pylon, which has a license to sell wipers under the Michelin name. I drove home on a wet salty freeway, and can report that it wiped clean without chatter. I like it better than the ANCO Aerovantage blades on that car. I'll buy one for the other side next time I'm in town. _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto
I think MB tex works better than kevlar - Original Message - From: "John Ervine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto Zeitgeist wrote: Whoa there Tex, the kevlar reference is a common and largely innocuous online term used when posting something that could possibly be perceived as a "flame"--which is yet another online term used to describe a repudiation of another's stated position, but not generally considered to be threatening. Kevlar you see, is flame resistant. It'd make more sense if you said Nomex. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi 1980 300TD 175+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] MB Tex verses Kevlar
"Often, the majority of the people in the community do NOT want WalMarts, but in order to keep them out, they have to organize and pass popular initiatives. " I could be wrong, and it is in these peoples rights to oppose a WalMart just like you would a landfill coming into your community, but I would harbor to guess the folks opposing these are often (and this is a hunch) yuppified , ak rich type communities (Greenwich CT for example) who can afford to "preserve" their lifestyle. In the east (maybe mid west, south and west can chime in), I have heard some of the other folks opposing it are some of the towns in New England, who have their noses so far up in the air it blocks the sunlight. Often these towns are on a quest to keep the "original beauty" an feel of a quaint village (Many of those New England old towns were dumps in the height of the industrial revolution) Every try to rent or buy property near those places?, forget it. The billionaires are making it tough for the millionaires. My two cents from a coal cracker in Pennsylvania Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wal-Mart vs NAPA auto Is it safe to assume that you support the democratic rights of those in the many communities who have voted to ban Walmart and other big box retailers? Often, the majority of the people in the community do NOT want WalMarts, but in order to keep them out, they have to organize and pass popular initiatives. OTOH, nobody has to vote to let a WalMart INTO their community, so the idea that the presence of a WalMart is a manifestation of the democratic process has its flaws, IMO. Lee On Monday 13 February 2006 6:42, Potter, Tom E wrote: I agree with Paul on this. Wal-Mart is in the communities because the majority of people want them. If the liberals are so keen on democracy, they should support this. Nobody forces anyone to work at or shop at Wal-Mart. On the other hand, some folks want to force others NOT to shop at Wal-Mart. The masses may be wrong, but if we believe in democracy they have this right. Otherwise, let us put our cards on the table and admit that we think some sort of benevolent dictatorship (monarchy, oligarchy, communism, etc.) would be best for THESE people (Don't forget to exclude yourself because you think you will be in the ruling class). Just my 2 cents. Tom Potter: American -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of paul Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 8:18 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Walmart vs NAPA auto if that's so (which it's not), the communities obviously complied. it's not just the faceless corporate monolith that is getting it's way...people want those stores in their communities. the other stupid, stupid argument i hear is the low wages they pay their employees. correct me if i'm wrong, but no one is twisting the arms of wal-mart employees. if they wanna make more money, then get a job someplace else. i have, and will continue to buy M1 there with a perfectly clean conscience. p. Mitch Haley wrote: >Zeitgeist wrote: >>Try anarcho-libertarian commie pinko, and no, I don't like WalMart for >>a variety of reasons. > >Does it have anything to do with WalMart asking communities to steal land >from property owners and give it to WalMart to build a new SuperStore on? ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] M-1 T&S AWOL @ W/M
Two walmarts in State College PA are taking M1 5/40 off shelves and M1 15/50 extended off shelves. Called around to local auto parts. Advanced Auto parts mentioned that Mobil may not be making the synth 5/40 product any more going to a 0/40 product. Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "LT Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 10:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] M-1 T&S AWOL @ W/M I think Marshall posted something on this a couple of days ago. It is being reformulated. On 2/16/06, Dave M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: HI all, First, for those of you who actually understood that subject line, you have my condolences. For the rest of you, the rough translation is: Mobil-1 Truck & SUV Formula (5W-40) appears to be AWOL at Wall-Mart. I was there tonight and not only is there none in sight, there's no longer a spot on the shelf for that variety, either. I didn't see anything in a 40 or 50 weight at all, but I didn't look that hard for the 15W-50. Anyone know if Wall-Mart is going to carry the new 'turbo-diesel truck' 5W-40 stuff, which hopefully will be similar to the previous formula (which was almost identical to Delvac-1)? :-( -- Dave M. Boise, ID 1994 E500 - 95kmi (Q-ship) 1987 300D - 261kmi (Sportline) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] M-1 T&S AWOL @ W/M
Johnny B asked "Wanna switch to Amsoil?" Sell me. How does their heavy duty 15/40 diesel synthetic hold up? Price looks equal and better yet it is available without the bate and switch the other suppliers and outlets are putting me through. It comes in 12 quart cases, gallon jugs and up right? Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "John Berryman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] M-1 T&S AWOL @ W/M On Friday, February 17, 2006, at 12:13 PM, Tom Scordato wrote: Two walmarts in State College PA are taking M1 5/40 off shelves and M1 15/50 extended off shelves. Called around to local auto parts. Advanced Auto parts mentioned that Mobil may not be making the synth 5/40 product any more going to a 0/40 product. Regards Tom Scordato Wanna switch to Amsoil? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] M-1 T&S AWOL @ W/M - UPDATE
Time to change to Amsoil. My pig burns too much oil for me not to have a reliable source. Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "Dave M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Joe Knight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] M-1 T&S AWOL @ W/M - UPDATE Well, I went to the other Wal-Mart near me, and was overjoyed to find four 5qt jugs of Truck & SUV Formula on the shelves... at $20/jug! I grabbed all four, and was about to ask an employee if they had any more in the back, but thought I'd check for single quarts first. Sure enough, they had some quart bottles for $5.50, which was a little pricey for my taste. Then I did a double-take... five double-yew THIRTY? Say WHAT? I looked at the label on the 20 quarts in my shopping cart and sure 'nuff, they're all the too-new-to-be-on-Mobil's-website 5W-30 T&S formula. The label is identical in appearance to the old stuff, except it now says '30' instead of '40'. Curses! Foiled again. Dejectedly, I put it all back on the shelf. They had nothing at all in either 40 or 50 weight, not even a place on the shelves. But, they do have the T&S 5W-30... not that I can use that in any of my cars. I hope I'm not stuck buying genuine Delvac-1 at a ridiculous $25/gallon once again. So far I haven't seen any sign of the rumored "turbo diesel truck 5W-40" variety. Hope that's not going to be a snipe hunt. ***sigh*** -Dave M. -- Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 12:13:50 -0500 From: "Tom Scordato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] M-1 T&S AWOL @ W/M To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Two walmarts in State College PA are taking M1 5/40 off shelves and M1 15/50 extended off shelves. Called around to local auto parts. Advanced Auto parts mentioned that Mobil may not be making the synth 5/40 product any more going to a 0/40 product. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] M-1 T&S AWOL @ W/M - UPDATE
Rob if I may, my theory "Tom brings up a point I've often wondered about. Let's say your pig does burn a lot of oil. How reasonable is it to use costly synthetic vice dino juice...since neither is staying in the engine very long?" I figure the surface to surface real time lubrication that is going on with the material used (steel pistons/cylinders and synthetic oil) is what counts not how long it stays in there. I burn about a quart every 1000 miles +/- which for me is around 3 to 5 quarts per month (good news has not gotten any worse in the last 90K miles been using synthetics) I figure with fuel at $2.50 a gallon, oil at $6.00 a quart is not so bad if the longevity of the engine is increases and keeps me out of buying a new $25K car. I change oil and filter every 10,000 miles like religion. $25K buys allot of oil and maintenance. Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "Bob Rentfro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] M-1 T&S AWOL @ W/M - UPDATE Tom shared: "My pig burns too much oil for me not to have a reliable source." Tom brings up a point I've often wondered about. Let's say your pig does burn a lot of oil. How reasonable is it to use costly synthetic vice dino juice...since neither is staying in the engine very long? Bob Rentfro ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Speedometer Freeze up???
About 2 to 3,000 miles ago on my 300D had some trouble with my speedometer not working. I know this drill so I replaced the cable with new (installed correctly) and had the speedometer sent out to Overseas Speedometer to have it looked at and serviced. Yesterday with temps around 25 degrees F was out on the highway everything worked fine. Last night temps dropped to 5 degrees F and when I went out to this morn noticed the needle on zero and no little digits going around. QUESTION: Can/do/ have any of you experienced the same? Or am I destined to do this drill every few thousand miles? Two things I can not take. Not knowing how fast I am going or how far I have gone. Regards Tom Scordato 1977 300D 1979 240D
[MBZ] Speedometer Freeze up???
Johnny B chimed in and I thank him "In really cold weather using the wrong lubricant can cause the cable to twist, become shorter and fail. There are severe cold wether lubes available. A snowmobile shop should have something that works." Do these cables require lubrication? I heard not in past correspondances. Anybody confirm Johnny Bs expereience please? The cable has gone out at 3000 miles that is some kind of freaky. If so I will luber her up but how. Just put the jizsm in on the business ends? Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "John Berryman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Speedometer Freeze up??? On Sunday, February 19, 2006, at 09:48 AM, Tom Scordato wrote: About 2 to 3,000 miles ago on my 300D had some trouble with my speedometer not working. I know this drill so I replaced the cable with new (installed correctly) and had the speedometer sent out to Overseas Speedometer to have it looked at and serviced. Yesterday with temps around 25 degrees F was out on the highway everything worked fine. Last night temps dropped to 5 degrees F and when I went out to this morn noticed the needle on zero and no little digits going around. QUESTION: Can/do/ have any of you experienced the same? Or am I destined to do this drill every few thousand miles? Two things I can not take. Not knowing how fast I am going or how far I have gone. Regards Tom Scordato In really cold weather using the wrong lubricant can cause the cable to twist, become shorter and fail. There are severe cold wether lubes available. A snowmobile shop should have something that works. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Housing costs
Brother in law bought his house 6 years ago in suburb of Boston for 275K. It is with in the known 100 mile each way commuting radius (one way) of the city , three bedroom ranch on an acre, 1970s neighborhood. Selling it for over 600K. 40 years ago Boston's housing dollar was about equal with Syracuse NY. What happened? New York's commuting radius that people drive is up to 150 miles one way. Two and a half hours each way at 2:00AM with no traffic. With traffic/bridge waits 3 to 5 hours each way. What will it be in 20 years? You have 100 million or so people with in a 1000 mile radius of NYC all looking for he same thing. 300 million people in the US and growing! Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "redghost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Housing costs More a matter of their database not being updated for all homes sold in the recent past than gross errors. Seattle company, and I check sales on my properties v. valuations at present. The site is very close, but I feel optimistic. YMMV On Tuesday, February 21, 2006, at 06:41 PM, Christopher McCann wrote: My house was valued at 101K by the site...that's 10,000K more than the PO payed 6 years ago, but does not take into account the skyrocketing prices in my part of Kansas City. I paid $160,000 6 months ago and it was a good deal. It has my neighbors houses WAY too low too. If my house were 2 blocks East, it would be worth over $300,000 - GARUANTEED (or however you spell that word)...AMAZINGLY, the website does reflect the higher values of houses two blocks away into account...and is probably closer with those. That is impressive. But it is so far off on my block that one must conclude it is grossly inaccurate. If I offered my house for anywhere near what that site values it at, it would be sold within hours. Ditto for my neighbors. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: < with taxes and escrow and the like, it comes to over a grand a month. i consider that a lot of money.>> The new website www.zillow.com purports to give market prices for any house in the country by simply entering the address. The possible market values of houses in my neighborhood that I see every day is truly astonishing. Who knew? I've been looking up all my friend's homes just for fun. RLE/Seattle ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose" -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, "Nanook" -1987 300TD, 151K, "Rotkäppchen" -1985 300SD, 211K, "Wulf" -1976 240D, ?K, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger" - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] MB 1977 300D Engine Trouble shooting
Please need the groups help. Given: car has 270K miles. Valves due for adjustment but not over due. Religious filter changes, Mobil 1 Synth. Timing chain stretch unknown, I have never checked it in 100K miles (I know a no no) Was driving on interstate. Heard a "sound" in engine area for about 5 seconds. Imediately noticed power drop off on hills and alot more smoke from exhaust, white blueish. Once I pulled over idle was rough, allot of blue smoke. I suspect valve trouble. No bubbles in the open radiator. Car runs starts but is very rough and no power at all on hills Action items: Ordered diesel compression tester and 18mm glow plug adapter. Also will pull valve cover check for valves clearance and timing chain degrees and stretch. If a valve rod is thrown or bent I may find out by doing that. I have a feeling it might be bad, but will be hopeful Any more advise/war stories the list could share with me? Regards Tom Scordato 1979 240D 1977 300D
Re: [MBZ] MB 1977 300D Engine Trouble shooting
Jim asked EGR? Does this car have one? No I do not believe it does, Naturaly asperated and not much in pollution control - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB 1977 300D Engine Trouble shooting Was driving on interstate. Heard a "sound" in engine area for about 5 seconds. Imediately noticed power drop off on hills and alot more smoke from exhaust, white blueish. Once I pulled over idle was rough, allot of blue smoke. I suspect valve trouble. No bubbles in the open radiator. Car runs starts but is very rough and no power at all on hills EGR? Does this car have one? -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] MB Service Times for Jobs
About a year ago or so someone had a link to a program that gave Mercedes Service times to various maintenance and repair jobs for many different models. Anyone have that? thanks Regards Tom Scordato 1977300D 1979 240D
Re: [MBZ] MB Service Times for Jobs
Thanks Dave - Original Message - From: "Dave M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB Service Times for Jobs Here ya go... about a 1MB download (uppack the Zip file): http://www.w124performance.com/docs/mb/other/Mercedes_Labor_Time_Guide.zip It's not user-friendly by any stretch of the imagination, though. :) -Dave M. -- Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 12:35:29 -0500 From: "Tom Scordato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MBZ] MB Service Times for Jobs About a year ago or so someone had a link to a program that gave Mercedes Service times to various maintenance and repair jobs for many different models. Anyone have that? thanks Regards Tom Scordato 1977300D 1979 240D ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] name my car
I am not into naming my cars, but see it as fun and sentimental for those who do. Always thought if I did I would call it Janis for the great late singer Janis Joplin who said "oh Lord wouldn't you buy me a Mercedes Benz, my friend all drive Porches, I must make immense..." - Original Message - From: "Sunil Hari" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 10:31 PM Subject: [MBZ] name my car 1992 300D 2.5T, smoke silver, cream beige interior. 286Kmi. Not mint by any means, but mechanically perfect. Name it. Right now, can't think of anything befitting it, just because it's not that unique. For reference, I named my 1974 240D (green on green) Lucille, and never really named my 1984 300Dt. -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] name my car
amends I tried to spell check it but it did not work I am from the age "johnny can not read or write" sorry/Tom - Original Message - From: "John Berryman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] name my car On Feb 26, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Tom Scordato wrote: I must make immense..." That's amends. You need to go here http://www.kissthisguy.com/ Enjoy! Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] what is going on with Mobil 1
Loren wrote "new" 15W-50, diesel rated, with a GOLD cap for more money" this is the 15/50 extended service Mobil on for about $23 to $25 per gallon at walmart. It has been around at least our parts for a year and a half. This is the extended service stuff. I used to use the 15/50 regular Mobil 1 sys until my supplier quite carrying it. Advance Auto parts carries the extended service stuff still. I may just switch to Amsoil. We are getting into a weird area here where supply for oil is so spotty. Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "Loren Faeth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] what is going on with Mobil 1 I stopped last week at the place in Iowa city I found to be much less expensive than anywhere else. The truck & suv was gone, but they had a "new" 15W-50, diesel rated, with a GOLD cap for more money. I got 12 anyway. Still less than the rest. Don't know what is going on with it, but it is making me nervous. If it is SO good, why are they screwing around with it? Maybe we should all sign up under johnny B and make him the Amsoil baron superhero. I ran valvoline turbo for years, until they pulled it and took off the c rating for everything else. As near as I could tell the valvoline turbo was a good oil for dino oil. Loren ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Suggestions for a replacement radio
I have a Blaupunk unit with cassette. AM/FM works great. Free you pay shipping/Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "MICHAEL ESH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Suggestions for a replacement radio I ordered nice Pioneer for my 1981 300SD from Crutchfield. It even came with a free wiring harness and OE speaker wire connections Mike http://www.crutchfield.com - Original Message - From: "Craig McCluskey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "mercedes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 12:41 AM Subject: [MBZ] Suggestions for a replacement radio The old Alpine radio in our car has been slowly dying, first making crackling noises from the loudspeakers and then the front panel illumination quitting. The straw was today when I disconnected the radio to change the console and it forgot its settings. Without being able to read the front panel, I can't reset it. So, does anyone have any suggestions on a reasonable replacement radio (and source). I'm looking for something sans neon sign front panel; it's a Benz, afterall. I've got the standard speakers and won't be upgrading them, so functional is good. Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] brake torsion bar -YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great news Chris Don't you love when that happens? Regards Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "Christopher McCann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 6:50 PM Subject: [MBZ] brake torsion bar -YES THE BOLT JUST FELL OUT AH! FOR ONCE, SOMETHING GOES MY WAY! MAKES SENSE AS THE BAR IS NOT AT ALL RUSTY!! YAHOO!!! FEW RUBBER HICKIES A BOLT AN HOUR LATER AND I'LL BE GOOD TO GO - THE VAST EXPANSE OF CO, AZ, AND NM DESERT AWAITS ME THIS WEEKEND AND MY QUASI-TRUSTY COMPANION, WULF! Ecstatically, Christopher Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose" -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, "Nanook" -1987 300TD, 151K, "Rotkäppchen" -1985 300SD, 211K, "Wulf" -1976 240D, ?K, "AKP-Wagen" (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger" - Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] 1977 300D non turbo engine replacement Cross Roads
A few questions for the group please 1. Can a 1977 123 chassis take/accept an 617.9xx non turbo engine with out major modifications from the years 1978-1980 to last non turbo year? 2. What are the estimated hours to pull out existing 617.9xx engine, remove things such as alternators, refer compressors, ect. and then put a used motor into the car al the while attaching the ancillary stuff I just said and install the new engine. These would be the hours by a professional mechanic. 3. I assume, new tranny hoses, new lube oil hoses ect. while I am at it. 4. If you could share any experience you have. Is there a link for doing this job? I have located some used engines that have been compression tested and are in the 100K miles to 150K mile ranges, some which have been sitting for some time. I am at a cross roads on the path of deciding if the car is worth it. I do not have the "scope of supply" to do the job myself where I am located in life right now. Thanks in advance Tom Scordato
Re: [MBZ] 1977 300D non turbo engine replacement Cross Roads
Brian said "when I complain about it becoming a money pit, that there is nothing magic about these cars, they wear out and break too" Yes Brian they do and if you are racking up 40 to 50K a year on them it reaches a real point of diminishing returns. I think I may minimize my loss on this, keep my low mileage 240D for another 200K (it has only 77K on it) and be happy Brian I guess a 30 year car is like a 100 year house. One side says it is a labor of love the other says it is a money pit. One thing for sure they both need alot of tlc and cash. Regards Tom - Original Message - From: "Zoltan Finks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1977 300D non turbo engine replacement Cross Roads You'll probably find more helpful posts than this, but I can tell you that I just had the engine replaced in a 240D. Engine cost me 900 and the complete R&R job done by an indy - not me - cost 800 (plus a couple unexpected expenses). The engine I got usually sells for 1100. Was it worth it to us? Yes, but as I discover more potentially broken or breaking things on the car, I begin to question it. I wanted one of these Mercedes diesels and then I became convinced by reading this list (and got the general impression that these cars are about as wonderful as tits and beer) but I'm getting the general impression lately, when I complain about it becoming a money pit, that there is nothing magic about these cars, they wear out and break too, it's just that if properly cared for, the diesel engines can last quite a long time. Wish you the best with your quest. Brian 83 240D On 3/8/06, Tom Scordato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A few questions for the group please 1. Can a 1977 123 chassis take/accept an 617.9xx non turbo engine with out major modifications from the years 1978-1980 to last non turbo year? 2. What are the estimated hours to pull out existing 617.9xx engine, remove things such as alternators, refer compressors, ect. and then put a used motor into the car al the while attaching the ancillary stuff I just said and install the new engine. These would be the hours by a professional mechanic. 3. I assume, new tranny hoses, new lube oil hoses ect. while I am at it. 4. If you could share any experience you have. Is there a link for doing this job? I have located some used engines that have been compression tested and are in the 100K miles to 150K mile ranges, some which have been sitting for some time. I am at a cross roads on the path of deciding if the car is worth it. I do not have the "scope of supply" to do the job myself where I am located in life right now. Thanks in advance Tom Scordato ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1977 300D non turbo engine replacement Cross Roads
Marshall said "If you can do it yourself or get a really cut rate, you can sometimes restore a car to service, but usually you are better off finding a replacement car that meets your needs" Marshall you are right and I believe/Tom - Original Message - From: "Marshall Booth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1977 300D non turbo engine replacement Cross Roads Tom Scordato wrote: I have located some used engines that have been compression tested and are in the 100K miles to 150K mile ranges, some which have been sitting for some time. I am at a cross roads on the path of deciding if the car is worth it. I do not have the "scope of supply" to do the job myself where I am located in life right now. Thanks in advance Tom Scordato Mercedes made a few changes every year and there certainly MIGHT be changes that would make slipping an '80-81 engine into a '77 chassis a challenge (but I'm almost sure it can be done). I would guess that 8 hours MIGHT do it if the mechanic were VERY experienced AND had done the job several times, but there are a LOT of variables that could increase the time by a lot. Unless the the car is in WAY, WAY above average condition I wouldn't suggest it with a nearly 30 year old (or even a 20 year old) car. It has NOT been economically advantageous for me to pay someone a proper fee to do such jobs (I've done it anyway). If you can do it yourself or get a really cut rate, you can sometimes restore a car to service, but usually you are better off finding a replacement car that meets your needs. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) "der Dieseling Doktor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1977 300D non turbo engine replacement Cross Roads
Brian said "All that said, I still do admire this type of vehicle and think that it is one of the few that - since I have to drive - I want to drive. I do enjoy it and look forward to a happy life with it." As you should and will. Like I told my family who gives me grief that I do not or will not drive a rock climber: "I will drive a Mercedes Diesel until I die, so get used to it. For me Brian I to bought a 185K 300D diesel which I did not have records on. But guess what I put 100K miles on it, had a lot of fun, worked on it, developed a love for a car I really enjoy driving. Luckily I bought a 1979 240D with low miles and I can start all over again! Thanks for your input and enjoy changing your starter out. I know on my 300D I had to remove the transmission dip stick tube but other that not too bad of a job. Kind of a reach around to get at the Allen bolts if I recall. Small stubby angle ratchet helps. Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "Brian Chase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1977 300D non turbo engine replacement Cross Roads But would it be worth doing all the crack? Seriously though, jesting aside: One of the things that I was most surprised about when I began to investigate an older Mercedes was how affordable they were. Not having had any specific interest in them in the past, I always assumed that even an old one (as in 80s) would be way way out of the range of reasonable (like the range you gave for the showroom cond. one). And an even older one would be getting into true "classic" status and thus would be even further out of range. So basically one that is in the lower $2k range is one that, generally speaking, has not been maintained and the seller therefore knows it has problems? I see all the time through the list, Mercedes diesels for that sort of price (and that's about what mine cost) and the listers often tout picking them up. Guess what I have been missing all along is that it is understood that if you buy one at this price range, you will be looking - almost for certain - at several repairs. I have read things today on the list that I did not see in the six months or longer leading up to the purchase of my 240D. But in fairness, it is a Mercedes enthusiast list (with a very large do-it-yourself contingent). What should I have expected? And also in fairness, I don't think that I ever specifically asked the question, do you guys think that I ought to buy one of these autos? All that said, I still do admire this type of vehicle and think that it is one of the few that - since I have to drive - I want to drive. I do enjoy it and look forward to a happy life with it. Next order of business: replace the starter. It did it's "nothing" trick just now. Brian 83 240D Marshall wrote: One that's quite well maintained, may well be worth $2000-5000 and one that's in close to showroom condition with less than 75kmi on it can sell for $10+k and MAY even be worth that. _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 1977 300D non turbo engine replacement Cross Roads
Dwight said "Tom, I like and agree with your philosophy-I will always drive a MB "diesel for the rest of my life-I have two sitting in the driveway right now" Dwight do tell about the 1990. maybe it is time for me to trade up from the 123 chassis. The vacuum door locks give me real grief on all those. I do by the way have a 1979 240D too. I call it the "Flip Maker" As I drive up and accelerate (0-60 forever) up the highway on ramps I get folks flipping me the bird all the time, my pedals is to the metal. People are very full of hate and discontent in this the freest country in the world. Why is that so? It is now my daily driver and I love it, 77K now and growing by 50K a year. thanks Dwight Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "Dwight E. Giles, Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1977 300D non turbo engine replacement Cross Roads Tom, I like and agree with your philosophy-I will always drive a MB diesel for the rest of my life-I have two sitting in the driveway right now. Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 129K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Scordato Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 8:32 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1977 300D non turbo engine replacement Cross Roads Brian said "All that said, I still do admire this type of vehicle and think that it is one of the few that - since I have to drive - I want to drive. I do enjoy it and look forward to a happy life with it." As you should and will. Like I told my family who gives me grief that I do not or will not drive a rock climber: "I will drive a Mercedes Diesel until I die, so get used to it. For me Brian I to bought a 185K 300D diesel which I did not have records on. But guess what I put 100K miles on it, had a lot of fun, worked on it, developed a love for a car I really enjoy driving. Luckily I bought a 1979 240D with low miles and I can start all over again! Thanks for your input and enjoy changing your starter out. I know on my 300D I had to remove the transmission dip stick tube but other that not too bad of a job. Kind of a reach around to get at the Allen bolts if I recall. Small stubby angle ratchet helps. Tom Scordato - Original Message - From: "Brian Chase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1977 300D non turbo engine replacement Cross Roads But would it be worth doing all the crack? Seriously though, jesting aside: One of the things that I was most surprised about when I began to investigate an older Mercedes was how affordable they were. Not having had any specific interest in them in the past, I always assumed that even an old one (as in 80s) would be way way out of the range of reasonable (like the range you gave for the showroom cond. one). And an even older one would be getting into true "classic" status and thus would be even further out of range. So basically one that is in the lower $2k range is one that, generally speaking, has not been maintained and the seller therefore knows it has problems? I see all the time through the list, Mercedes diesels for that sort of price (and that's about what mine cost) and the listers often tout picking them up. Guess what I have been missing all along is that it is understood that if you buy one at this price range, you will be looking - almost for certain - at several repairs. I have read things today on the list that I did not see in the six months or longer leading up to the purchase of my 240D. But in fairness, it is a Mercedes enthusiast list (with a very large do-it-yourself contingent). What should I have expected? And also in fairness, I don't think that I ever specifically asked the question, do you guys think that I ought to buy one of these autos? All that said, I still do admire this type of vehicle and think that it is one of the few that - since I have to drive - I want to drive. I do enjoy it and look forward to a happy life with it. Next order of business: replace the starter. It did it's "nothing" trick just now. Brian 83 240D Marshall wrote: One that's quite well maintained, may well be worth $2000-5000 and one that's in close to showroom condition with less than 75kmi on it can sell for $10+k and MAY even be worth that. _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ___