Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs
Feller up the street a ways has a blue dodge pick me up. Same year as the take over at chrysler. He installed a star on the trunk and uses the hub caps in the same color as the truck. Took me forever to figure out what he had done and why it may be ok for him to have done that. On Thursday, March 23, 2006, at 02:57 PM, John Ervine wrote: Jim Cathey wrote: No, I heard about it on a Unimog mailing list. I think it was just a snob. As long as we are talking about Daimler-Chrysler trucks that should or should not have three-pointed stars on them, I snapped this photo 2 years ago at the Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance: http://www.mbdiesel.net/DSCN0003.JPG -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi 1980 300TD 175+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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I only pop up the rear end of the rof in the SDL - it let's out the
hot air from sitting closed in the sun well enough (with the windows
down also). Someday when I have nothing better to do, I'll clean the
tracks and apply that magic lubricant
On 3/24/06, Peter T. Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:09:14 -0800, you wrote:
jeepers, jim...throw me a bone here...
Sorry dude! If it jumped on a bump something is broken.
Our SDL's sunroof blew chunks out of its mechanism, but
we were able to convince it to shut properly once more.
I just unplugged it. Maybe someday...
-- Jim
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Same story here.
I've put magnetic tape on the outside seam to dull the wind noise
until the accounting department frees up funds {About $1.000} to fix
it. I do like it in the spring and fall or summer evenings.
SWMBO dislikes it, musses her hair. I doubt she has ever opened the
one she Had to have on her Cruizer.
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Peter T. Arnold
1987 300SDL 240KMI
1995 F-250 PowerChoke 190Kmi
1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen
Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that
is!
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Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs
Curt Raymond wrote: I'd like to have one but have been told that almost nobody can afford to keep an old Saab. Aside from the Bosch k-jetronic problems, most of which usually don't happen to cars that are driven regularly, where did you get that idea? Very easy cars to work on, and the parts are reasonable, or at least they were before GM got involved, I haven't bought any in a few years.
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That must be an early product of the Daimler Chrysler merger. Hendrik - Original Message - From: John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs Jim Cathey wrote: No, I heard about it on a Unimog mailing list. I think it was just a snob. As long as we are talking about Daimler-Chrysler trucks that should or should not have three-pointed stars on them, I snapped this photo 2 years ago at the Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance: http://www.mbdiesel.net/DSCN0003.JPG -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi 1980 300TD 175+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Had another look at the pic and noticed the little stickers near the rear vision mirror. Hendrik - Original Message - From: John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs Jim Cathey wrote: No, I heard about it on a Unimog mailing list. I think it was just a snob. As long as we are talking about Daimler-Chrysler trucks that should or should not have three-pointed stars on them, I snapped this photo 2 years ago at the Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance: http://www.mbdiesel.net/DSCN0003.JPG -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi 1980 300TD 175+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Leaky 126
I should have said, I couldn't FIND a GOOD USED 124 or 126 without sunroof. BTW, it's OK for some of us to like 'em and others to not like 'em. That's why we have different names. One is no more RIGHT than the other. Wilton
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timeout for some help...please! i put a new rubber seal around my sunroof last fall after having the roof section drop at high speeds after a bump...it came ajar the new seal went in tight and doesn't drop...but it seems there is quite a bit of wind noise on the freeway... any way to solve this?...maybe start by taping over the top hatch in order to make sure it isn't the doors...? -- Original message -- From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] I should have said, I couldn't FIND a GOOD USED 124 or 126 without sunroof. BTW, it's OK for some of us to like 'em and others to not like 'em. That's why we have different names. One is no more RIGHT than the other. Wilton ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Mar 24 01:57:21 2006 Received: from server344.com ([216.35.197.52]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtps (TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 4.52) id 1FMbYH-0003IU-8v for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 01:57:21 + Received: (qmail 21286 invoked by uid 504); 24 Mar 2006 01:57:18 - Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.10?) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by ns1.server344.com with SMTP; 24 Mar 2006 01:57:18 - Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:57:31 -0500 From: John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] W126.125 M603.961 I6 300SDL Turbodiesel 1986-87 148HP 3835lbs X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 01:57:21 - Mitch Haley wrote: Is 126 the chassis that you DO NOT want to have to replace the front anti-roll bar? Boy, howdy. 12+ hours, book time. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi 1980 300TD 175+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi
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i put a new rubber seal around my sunroof last fall after having the roof section drop at high speeds after a bump...it came ajar the new seal went in tight and doesn't drop...but it seems there is quite a bit of wind noise on the freeway... The seal doesn't have anything to do with the roof's positioning. You haven't addressed the real problem yet. -- Jim
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Right on! Nailed it! An earlier post mentioned something about welding and bondo-ing to hide a sun roof - I've been thinking about doing just that to the leaky one in the SLC - it won't open, and the other end of the drains are WELL hidden behind the rear window trim. (P.S. - even though I wore a 'chute in the Citabria, never was temped to jump out with it!) On 3/23/06, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The practical engineer part of me also can't understand why anyone would cut a hole in a perfectly good steel top, then pay mucho $ for it. I've never opened the ridiculous sun roofs on my 124 and 126 - 'wish they didn't have 'em. 'Couldn't get 124 and 126 without 'em. Wilton (P. S. 'Also can't understand why anybody would jump out of a perfectly good airplane.) Wilt -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
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Of the seven that have owned me, six had/have sunroofs, and three leaked miserably. Blowing/cleaning out the drains on the 115 cars was a temporary fix. The SLC is about to make me mad --- On 3/23/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Potter, Tom E wrote: Why anyone would cut a hole in the top of a perfectly good vehicle is beyond me! I did find them handy here in Texas. When you first get in the vehicle, you can open the sunroof to let the hot air out quickly. You then have to close it so you can operate the AC. I've owned 22 Mercedes manufactured between 1954 and 1987. 21 had sunroofs. I've only had to service two of them and NEVER had one leak. Many Euro cars were never equipped with a sunroof, that cost extra. Marshall -- -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
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John Ervine wrote: Any idea what the silhouettes of vehicles on the driver's door mean? Just curious.. Honestly, I was laughing too hard to make it across the road to check it out. They remind me of the insignia you see painted on WWII-era aircraft, to signify kills. David Brodbeck '83 300D Turbo
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I always thought sunroofs were silly until I had a car with one. Now I'm pretty fond of them. I've had two cars with one, a Honda Civic and my 300D. Neither of them have ever leaked, even in high-pressure car washes. I've heard speculation that the culprit when it comes to leaky sunroofs is parking with the sunroof open under trees. Pine needles, whirlygigs, etc. fall into the tracks and then plug the drains. David Brodbeck '83 300D Turbo
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I agree with both sides. As much as I enjoy an open sunroof, they are a maintenance PITA. What I really miss is the sunroof on an old Saab 99 I once owned. It was a modern sliding steel hatch, but it had no mechanisms, no cables, no motors, almost nothing to fail. To open it, you just reach up, grab the handle and slide it open as far as you want to. To close it, you reach up, grab the same handle and slide it shut. Near the end of the closing stroke, you had to be moving it at just the right velocity for it to pop into position and latch. I'm a slow learner, and even I learned the knack of closing it the first day. Compared to new Saabs, that old one was so simple and robust. Guess it is the same situation for Mercedes. Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300D x2 '85 300D '80 300TD
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On w123 cars and earlier, some of them (240D's and 300TD's come to mind) had manual sliding roofs - just lower the latch, spin around to unlock, and slide back. Reverse to close and lock shut. Really really simple, very robust. No tricks to latch shut, either. Swedish engineering - ha! On 3/23/06, ned kleinhenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with both sides. As much as I enjoy an open sunroof, they are a maintenance PITA. What I really miss is the sunroof on an old Saab 99 I once owned. It was a modern sliding steel hatch, but it had no mechanisms, no cables, no motors, almost nothing to fail. To open it, you just reach up, grab the handle and slide it open as far as you want to. To close it, you reach up, grab the same handle and slide it shut. Near the end of the closing stroke, you had to be moving it at just the right velocity for it to pop into position and latch. I'm a slow learner, and even I learned the knack of closing it the first day. Compared to new Saabs, that old one was so simple and robust. Guess it is the same situation for Mercedes. Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300D x2 '85 300D '80 300TD ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
[MBZ] Leaky 126
OK Don, I wore chute all the time in B-52; certainly never TEMPTED to jump for the fun of it, but was prepared to punch out if necessary only. Wilton
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jeepers, jim...throw me a bone here... -- Original message -- From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] i put a new rubber seal around my sunroof last fall after having the roof section drop at high speeds after a bump...it came ajar the new seal went in tight and doesn't drop...but it seems there is quite a bit of wind noise on the freeway... The seal doesn't have anything to do with the roof's positioning. You haven't addressed the real problem yet. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Mar 24 05:50:23 2006 Received: from mta13.mail.adelphia.net ([68.168.78.44] helo=mta13.adelphia.net) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FMfBm-0008Fg-3j for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 05:50:23 + Received: from speedwins ([70.36.124.30]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with ESMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:50:14 -0500 From: Woodlandtaylors [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:50:32 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1250 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thread-Index: AcZPBXE+XdPILA6AR8KoybQ0ZnEqvgAATGoQ Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ebay sale X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 05:50:23 - Craig, Strange one - I cut and pasted that last message but I agree I can see it now. Interesting to see a 124 with 412K miles although engine and trans were said to have 110K on them. Dennis T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig McCluskey Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 9:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ebay sale On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:01:10 -0800 Woodlandtaylors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just went back and looked at it. Ebay posted this message: This listing (#46228400) has been removed or is no longer available. Please make sure you entered the right item number. I believe this auction was not getting a bid to the sellers liking and fake bidding occurred hence the ebay removal result. I just checked it and found that it was still there. Huh? Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.6/288 - Release Date: 3/22/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.2.6/288 - Release Date: 3/22/2006
Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs
On Mar 23, 2006, at 10:56 PM, ned kleinhenz wrote: Compared to new Saabs, that old one was so simple and robust. Guess it is the same situation for Mercedes. Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300D x2 '85 300D '80 300TD Doesn't your TD have a manual sunroof? Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
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Sunil Hari wrote: Swedish engineering - ha! I discovered a while back that 'Swedish engineering' has the same connotations for Finns that 'Polish engineering' would for us English speakers. I do kinda prefer the Swedish 'pull up on the ring' reverse lock-outs to the German 'push down on the shift lever' ones, although the former are admittedly much harder to operate when wearing mittens.
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On 3/23/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do kinda prefer the Swedish 'pull up on the ring' reverse lock-outs to the German 'push down on the shift lever' ones, although the former are admittedly much harder to operate when wearing mittens. I loved the front seatbelt buckles in my late lamented 1980 Saab 900, which consisted of a sort of swinging arm, at the top of a fixed post next to the transmission tunnel, that caught the belt and latched down. This meant that there was no need for a buckle mechanism of any kind on the belt itself. New passengers would sit down, pull the belt around themselves, then grow increasingly confused and agitated as they searched the length of the belt repeatedly for a tongue to fit into a slot somewhere like in every other car. The car also had the pull-up reverse lockout, and of course the ignition switch between the seats---a great idea that I wish other carmakers would have copied. Prevents the keys jangling against your knee and means you don't have to worry about the weight of the keyring causing premature wear on the lock cylinder as in a Benz. One of the best snow cars I've ever driven, too, with plenty of weight, skinny 165-mm tires, and only about 100 hp but well-chosen gear ratios to make the most of it. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper
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Doesn't your TD have a manual sunroof? The 1980 300TD - NO Sunroof. Is that unusual? Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300D x2 '85 300D '80 300TD
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Ned, My 1980 300TD has a manual sunroof. Works great, locks in place. Neal 1980 300TD 375K, but getting tired ned kleinhenz wrote: Doesn't your TD have a manual sunroof? The 1980 300TD - NO Sunroof. Is that unusual? Ned Kleinhenz '95 E300D x2 '85 300D '80 300TD ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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On Mar 24, 2006, at 8:32 AM, ned kleinhenz wrote: The 1980 300TD - NO Sunroof. Is that unusual? Ned Kleinhenz Yes, although I have one 1984 300TD without and had a 1982 purchased in South Carolina without one too. I can't even count how many TDs have passed through my hands (I presently have 7) but will venture to say ~10% without sunroofs but I believe across the board, the percentage is much lower in this country. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
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I agree, the only leaky sunroof I had was when I did a bad rebuild job on my 240D due to the incompleteness of the Mercedes Source sunroof manual. I should have just lubed the tracks and the cable and quit. Neither my 300TD or 190D has shown any sign of leaking. -Curt Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:26:13 -0800 From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I always thought sunroofs were silly until I had a car with one. Now I'm pretty fond of them. I've had two cars with one, a Honda Civic and my 300D. Neither of them have ever leaked, even in high-pressure car washes. I've heard speculation that the culprit when it comes to leaky sunroofs is parking with the sunroof open under trees. Pine needles, whirlygigs, etc. fall into the tracks and then plug the drains. David Brodbeck '83 300D Turbo - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2ยข/min or less. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Mar 24 14:24:58 2006 Received: from imo-d06.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.38]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FMnDm-000174-OJ for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:24:58 + Received: from [EMAIL PROTECTED] by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.3.) id 5.286.7f48a43 (57873) for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:24:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from FWM-R20 (fwm-r20.webmail.aol.com [152.163.211.148]) by air-ia02.mx.aol.com (vx) with ESMTP id MAILINIA23-e21144240135242; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:24:53 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:24:53 -0500 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from 66.153.39.67 by FWM-R20.sysops.aol.com (152.163.211.148) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:24:53 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: AIM WebMail 15106 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-AOL-IP: 152.163.211.148 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] hand pump question (78 300D) (Mitch Haley) X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:24:59 - Is a 78 300D's hand pump supposed to lock shut? I've noticed that the car has been getting hard to start for no good reason (it's not THAT cold, and the glow plugs seem to be functioning correctly). It is due for a valve adjustment in a few thousand, but even still... The pump doesn't leak any, but if I pump it, I can feel the bleedback hose from #1 to the fuel filter vibrating. Pushing the pump down and turning either direction does not seem to latch it. TIA. K I think that it is good preventative maintenace to replace those old pumps with the new version. They go bad so often after so many years. I wish I had done that before that failure stranded me. Dan Elliott 82 300D-T 92kmi Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.
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Mercedes had each type of reverse lockout at various times in its history. My '83 240D had the lift up and my '85 190D has the push down. I'll agree with you I prefer the lift up. -Curt '85 190D Dory 236kmi Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 22:50:43 -0800 From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Sunil Hari wrote: Swedish engineering - ha! I discovered a while back that 'Swedish engineering' has the same connotations for Finns that 'Polish engineering' would for us English speakers. I do kinda prefer the Swedish 'pull up on the ring' reverse lock-outs to the German 'push down on the shift lever' ones, although the former are admittedly much harder to operate when wearing mittens. - New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Mar 24 14:53:44 2006 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.224]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FMnfc-0002K7-GG for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:53:44 + Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i28so804472wra for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 06:53:43 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ikWfhQXcg4W9mviuWCRNnM6CDNaXaYH9Mb3FZh3Q1Vcmopxz+bCVZ8uWgPjmaPEFw0x8TGs2NgruI+wUURLdDR09b6b4wDTr2YxLxp9d2+VjSUiMKUNXR+mzXmu0l/+xDtisYEZtZ9ggcyPPE/DB8pDZS6+w+6ijWAb+pXxkSzM= Received: by 10.54.66.14 with SMTP id o14mr563307wra; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 06:53:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.120.2 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 06:53:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:53:43 -0500 From: Bob DuPuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:53:44 - Thanks James, I saw a SL320 on Ebay that claimed it had a V6. I've never had the hood up on one, and that auction didn't have an under hood picture. Bob DuPuy On 3/24/06, James Zavesky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The SL320 ( 129.063 ) used the 104.991 engine which is an inline 6 produc= ed from 1994 to 1997. James Zavesky - Original Message - From: Bob DuPuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey? Thanks to everyone for the input. Are there significant differences in the reliablity or the efficency between the V6 used in the SL320 and the I6 in the 300SL? Bob DuPuy
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I believe it was a '79 Saab 900 that taught me about ingnitions that you have to turn all the way off to start again. I'd somehow convinced the most beautiful girl in my highschool to let me drive her car and of COURSE managed to get into 3rd instead of first and stall it right off. Then I couldn't get it restarted, what a disaster. I did managed to get it restarted and loved driving it. I'd like to have one but have been told that almost nobody can afford to keep an old Saab. -Curt Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:35:21 -0800 From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I loved the front seatbelt buckles in my late lamented 1980 Saab 900, which consisted of a sort of swinging arm, at the top of a fixed post next to the transmission tunnel, that caught the belt and latched down. This meant that there was no need for a buckle mechanism of any kind on the belt itself. New passengers would sit down, pull the belt around themselves, then grow increasingly confused and agitated as they searched the length of the belt repeatedly for a tongue to fit into a slot somewhere like in every other car. The car also had the pull-up reverse lockout, and of course the ignition switch between the seats---a great idea that I wish other carmakers would have copied. Prevents the keys jangling against your knee and means you don't have to worry about the weight of the keyring causing premature wear on the lock cylinder as in a Benz. One of the best snow cars I've ever driven, too, with plenty of weight, skinny 165-mm tires, and only about 100 hp but well-chosen gear ratios to make the most of it. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Mar 24 15:01:20 2006 Received: from mxa.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.40]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FMnmx-0002dM-U8 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:01:20 + Received: from dogear.com (dhcp-206-63-95-43.dialup.windwireless.net [206.63.95.43] (may be forged)) by mxa.windwireless.net (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id k2OF1qr4010460 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:01:52 -0800 Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:01:10 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Virus-Scan: smtp-vilter X-SMTP-Vilter-Version: 1.1.0rc2 X-SMTP-Vilter-Backend: Clam AntiVirus Daemon (clamd) X-SMTP-Vilter-Status: clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0rc4 (mxa.windwireless.net [199.164.167.40]); Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:01:53 -0800 (PST) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cheap eBay Euro? parts car in TX X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:01:20 - http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8050436503 No sunroof! Looks like a 300D version of my 240D. At its current price it would be a good gamble, were it not in TX. -- Jim
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jeepers, jim...throw me a bone here... Sorry dude! If it jumped on a bump something is broken. Our SDL's sunroof blew chunks out of its mechanism, but we were able to convince it to shut properly once more. I just unplugged it. Maybe someday... -- Jim
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ned kleinhenz wrote: Doesn't your TD have a manual sunroof? The 1980 300TD - NO Sunroof. Is that unusual? Most 1980 300TDs delivered in the US came with a sunroof (mine did). Later (by 1982 when I bought another new 300TD) the sunroof was standard equipment, but in 1980 it might not have been (I don't have the paperwork anymore). By the time it became standard equipment in the US, it could be ordered without the sunroof as a no cost option. In most of the rest of the world, the sunroof was an option that could be purchased. In the early '80s the dollar/European currency exchange rates were VERY high (the dollar bought a lot) and Mercedes added a lot of options to the standard equipment list of US delivered cars to justify not having to lower the price of their cars in the US and make them more attractive vs US luxury cars. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
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On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:09:14 -0800, you wrote:
jeepers, jim...throw me a bone here...
Sorry dude! If it jumped on a bump something is broken.
Our SDL's sunroof blew chunks out of its mechanism, but
we were able to convince it to shut properly once more.
I just unplugged it. Maybe someday...
-- Jim
___
Same story here.
I've put magnetic tape on the outside seam to dull the wind noise
until the accounting department frees up funds {About $1.000} to fix
it. I do like it in the spring and fall or summer evenings.
SWMBO dislikes it, musses her hair. I doubt she has ever opened the
one she Had to have on her Cruizer.
--
Regards,
Peter T. Arnold
1987 300SDL 240KMI
1995 F-250 PowerChoke 190Kmi
1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen
Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that
is!
[MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs
Perhaps you mericans make a habit of welding up sunroofs. Bondo is a helluva lot cheaper than new gaskets. RLE
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If the sunroof leaks, check for a deteriorated drain pan or plugged drains (all four corners, drains out the doorposts. The sunroof gasket is a fiber faced thing, it does NOT seal out water. The water is collected by the drain pan and drained out four plastic pipes to the ground. If they are plugged, the headliner gets wet. Peter
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Why anyone would cut a hole in the top of a perfectly good vehicle is beyond me! I did find them handy here in Texas. When you first get in the vehicle, you can open the sunroof to let the hot air out quickly. You then have to close it so you can operate the AC. Tom Potter Who hates sunroofs (aka leaky rust initiators) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 9:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs Perhaps you mericans make a habit of welding up sunroofs. Bondo is a helluva lot cheaper than new gaskets. RLE ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Potter, Tom E wrote: Why anyone would cut a hole in the top of a perfectly good vehicle is beyond me! I did find them handy here in Texas. When you first get in the vehicle, you can open the sunroof to let the hot air out quickly. You then have to close it so you can operate the AC. I've owned 22 Mercedes manufactured between 1954 and 1987. 21 had sunroofs. I've only had to service two of them and NEVER had one leak. Many Euro cars were never equipped with a sunroof, that cost extra. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
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Servicing ONE of them is more than I want. I see it as just another useless, expensive option with which M-B saddled Americans. I notice that M-B did not inflict this nuisance on their neighbors in Europe. Leave them closed, service them not. Unplug the connector. Voila! DBAG would build them any way you wanted. MBNA wanted them as it was interested only in the 'luxury' facade. Witness the fool that was incensed that there was a star on one guy's ratty old truck (a Unimog) and insisted he remove it. -- Jim
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Potter, Tom E wrote: Doc, Servicing ONE of them is more than I want. I see it as just another useless, expensive option with which M-B saddled Americans. I notice that M-B did not inflict this nuisance on their neighbors in Europe. Not saddled at all! Mercedes offered all the US models at least thru the mid '80s without a sunroof as a no cost option! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
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I strongly disagree! A sliding roof is one of the great joys of Mercedes optiondom. Nothing beats it for ventilation, esp. on a hot day when the temp. can exceed 160 inside a car parked in the sun. In fact, it's almost a necessity. [flames sure to follow]. On 3/23/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Potter, Tom E wrote: Doc, Servicing ONE of them is more than I want. I see it as just another useless, expensive option with which M-B saddled Americans. I notice that M-B did not inflict this nuisance on their neighbors in Europe. Not saddled at all! Mercedes offered all the US models at least thru the mid '80s without a sunroof as a no cost option! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Were you the one guy? Did the idiot sell MBs for a living? No, I heard about it on a Unimog mailing list. I think it was just a snob. -- Jim
[MBZ] Leaky 126
The practical engineer part of me also can't understand why anyone would cut a hole in a perfectly good steel top, then pay mucho $ for it. I've never opened the ridiculous sun roofs on my 124 and 126 - 'wish they didn't have 'em. 'Couldn't get 124 and 126 without 'em. Wilton (P. S. 'Also can't understand why anybody would jump out of a perfectly good airplane.) Wilt
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Jim Cathey wrote: No, I heard about it on a Unimog mailing list. I think it was just a snob. As long as we are talking about Daimler-Chrysler trucks that should or should not have three-pointed stars on them, I snapped this photo 2 years ago at the Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance: http://www.mbdiesel.net/DSCN0003.JPG -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi 1980 300TD 175+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi
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I thought you could get a 124 or 126 without a sliding roof, BUT you had to specially order it from the factory, then wait 6-8 weeks for your car to be built and shipped over. That, or you take Euro delivery. Marshall, what's the official word? On 3/23/06, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The practical engineer part of me also can't understand why anyone would cut a hole in a perfectly good steel top, then pay mucho $ for it. I've never opened the ridiculous sun roofs on my 124 and 126 - 'wish they didn't have 'em. 'Couldn't get 124 and 126 without 'em. Wilton (P. S. 'Also can't understand why anybody would jump out of a perfectly good airplane.) Wilt ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
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That picture made me laugh so hard, I peed a little. On 3/23/06, John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Cathey wrote: No, I heard about it on a Unimog mailing list. I think it was just a snob. As long as we are talking about Daimler-Chrysler trucks that should or should not have three-pointed stars on them, I snapped this photo 2 years ago at the Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance: http://www.mbdiesel.net/DSCN0003.JPG -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi 1980 300TD 175+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474
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John, Your website is great.. Can relate to the pix of the 300SD.. Any idea what the silhouettes of vehicles on the driver's door mean? Just curious.. Chuck Phoenix AZ 1986 190E 2.3 16V 1980 300SD On Mar 23, 2006, at 3:57 PM, John Ervine wrote: Jim Cathey wrote: No, I heard about it on a Unimog mailing list. I think it was just a snob. As long as we are talking about Daimler-Chrysler trucks that should or should not have three-pointed stars on them, I snapped this photo 2 years ago at the Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance: http://www.mbdiesel.net/DSCN0003.JPG -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi 1980 300TD 175+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Chuck Landenberger wrote: John, Your website is great.. Can relate to the pix of the 300SD.. Glad you like it! Any idea what the silhouettes of vehicles on the driver's door mean? Just curious.. Honestly, I was laughing too hard to make it across the road to check it out. -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi 1980 300TD 175+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi 1977 280S 4-spd 81+kmi 1976 350SE 4-spd 163+kmi
