Re: [MBZ] People are hoarding chickens now

2020-04-13 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Our neighbor next door has 20-30 chickens now. He started several years
ago. I dont' think he's lost any to the foxes, coyotes, skunks, possums,
raccoons, etc. recently because I haven't seen any piles of loose feathers.
They are "free range" (visiting us sometimes), though he supplements there
food with commercial antibiotic, etc, laced feed - and the eggs taste just
like the factory ones from the store. We don't get eggs from him anymore,
being pure food snobs.

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 4:58 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  If we ever live at camp we'll have chickens. I'd build movable pens, so
> called "chicken tractors" and shuffle them around the fields. We get these
> big ant mounts, the chickens would love those...
> -Curt
>
> On Monday, April 13, 2020, 2:16:47 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 14:55:51 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> >  Interesting, remind me where "here" is.
> > I read the other day that US demand for eggs has gone up some absurd
> > percentage.
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/26/shortages-eggs-stress-baking/
>
> Fear of supply-chain disruptions has prompted the DIY spirit and a
> renewed interest in gardening, swamping online seed companies.
> Some have brought the same thoughts to bear on the egg shortage:
> Actor Tom Holland (Spider-Man) made news when he announced this
> week he had adopted three chickens as a source of eggs. And he’s
> not alone.
>
> Diez-Canseco isn’t bullish about backyard chickens.
>
> “We don’t think backyard flocks are great for the birds. There’s
> a lot of predation,” he said. “But by all means, plant a garden.”
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] People are hoarding chickens now

2020-04-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 If we ever live at camp we'll have chickens. I'd build movable pens, so called 
"chicken tractors" and shuffle them around the fields. We get these big ant 
mounts, the chickens would love those...
-Curt

On Monday, April 13, 2020, 2:16:47 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 14:55:51 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

>  Interesting, remind me where "here" is.
> I read the other day that US demand for eggs has gone up some absurd
> percentage.https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/26/shortages-eggs-stress-baking/

    Fear of supply-chain disruptions has prompted the DIY spirit and a
    renewed interest in gardening, swamping online seed companies.
    Some have brought the same thoughts to bear on the egg shortage:
    Actor Tom Holland (Spider-Man) made news when he announced this
    week he had adopted three chickens as a source of eggs. And he’s
    not alone.

    Diez-Canseco isn’t bullish about backyard chickens.

    “We don’t think backyard flocks are great for the birds. There’s
    a lot of predation,” he said. “But by all means, plant a garden.”


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] People are hoarding chickens now

2020-04-13 Thread Clay via Mercedes
Depends upon the breed as to egg count.  Some can max out above 320 per annum.  
Hens need light and warmth, as well as access to good food.  I had success with 
over wintered hens popping out eggs year round, but for deep cold periods and 
moulting

clay

> On Apr 13, 2020, at 6:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Shorter than that, in 6 months you eat the chickens. That is if you don't 
> want to over-winter. Its cold enough here I wouldn't want to. They don't lay 
> as good over the winter anyway.
> 
> -Curt


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Re: [MBZ] People are hoarding chickens now

2020-04-13 Thread Clay via Mercedes
NYC has a bunch of pigeon coops.  Turn the roofs into chicken farms and feed 
the impoverished a nutrient rich egg.  Free range the fowl on Tar Beach garden 
scraps

clay

> On Apr 12, 2020, at 8:12 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Does your HOA allow you to keep a flock of chickens?  Just a trick question
> for all those city dwellers who suddenly decide to "raise some chickens"...
> 
> Should be fun to watch... a New York high rise apartment over run with
> flocks of chickens ... in the hallways and elevators... I see the making of
> a movie script... haha


clay
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Re: [MBZ] People are hoarding chickens now

2020-04-13 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 13 Apr 2020 14:55:51 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

>  Interesting, remind me where "here" is.
> I read the other day that US demand for eggs has gone up some absurd
> percentage.https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/26/shortages-eggs-stress-baking/

Fear of supply-chain disruptions has prompted the DIY spirit and a
renewed interest in gardening, swamping online seed companies.
Some have brought the same thoughts to bear on the egg shortage:
Actor Tom Holland (Spider-Man) made news when he announced this
week he had adopted three chickens as a source of eggs. And he’s
not alone.

Diez-Canseco isn’t bullish about backyard chickens.

“We don’t think backyard flocks are great for the birds. There’s
a lot of predation,” he said. “But by all means, plant a garden.”


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] People are hoarding chickens now

2020-04-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 Makes sense, you've got a lot more farms around than we do. In the summer I 
have a bunch of local producers to choose from, folks with a cooler out in 
front of the house. $2/doz seems like the going rate around here. This time of 
year the chickens are just starting to really lay again so theres not so much.
-Curt

On Monday, April 13, 2020, 11:07:11 AM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I'm in south-central Indiana. Abundant supply of eggs at the
supermarkets. $0.97/doz for the non-free-range non-organic factory-farm
eggs last time I was there (middle of last week).

Free-range, cage-free etc. anywhere from near $3/doz to $6 or so.

Allan

Curt Raymond  writes:

> Interesting, remind me where "here" is.
>
> I read the other day that US demand for eggs has gone up some absurd
> percentage.
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/26/shortages-eggs-stress-baking/
>
> But in the 2 weeks since that article USDA says prices are coming back
> down:
> https://www.ams.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media/Egg%20Markets%20Overview.pdf
>
> At the "regular" grocery store last Thursday there were only 6 packs of
> organic eggs, no conventional eggs to be had. The co-op had local eggs
> 2 weeks ago but they were $3/dz. Really nice eggs though.
>
> -Curt
>
> On Sunday, April 12, 2020, 6:37:02 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> I've heard that also.
>
> Weird because eggs are in no short supply here.
>
> When you can buy a dozen eggs for $1 I think the economics of raising
> your own chickens don't work.
>
> Allan
>
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:
>
>> I saw a story on the news that now people are flocking to the farm
>> stores and hoarding chickens. It is that time of year to buy chicks
>> and I guess they think they will suddenly raise chickens to get their
>> eggs. It is really getting ridiculous.
>>
>>

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Re: [MBZ] People are hoarding chickens now

2020-04-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Commercial eggs are still hard to come by around here (west central FL) but 
local producers have all kinds of them. No problem finding/getting them if you 
make the effort. We have a lot of rural folks around here that raise chickens 
and sell eggs pretty much year ‘round.

I was telling Mitch (MI) the other day about how we’ve got a glut of produce in 
the area because the migrant workers can’t pick it. Just south of me is a large 
area of tomato growers, so many of them that there are several processing 
plants in the area. Because they can’t get the crops to market they’re rotting 
in the fields, or if the growers use any sort of mechanized harvesting the 
crops are being harvested but just sitting.

A local tomato producer is selling bushel baskets of fresh tomatoes for $5. 
Same thing with the blueberry crop that has just come in. I can get a quart of 
freshly picked blueberries for about $2 at the growers. Normally, $2 would get 
you a pint.

I don’t can vegetables, but if I did I would be stocking up right now. We 
bought a boatload of blueberries on Saturday and froze nearly all of them.

-D

> On Apr 13, 2020, at 11:04 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm in south-central Indiana. Abundant supply of eggs at the
> supermarkets. $0.97/doz for the non-free-range non-organic factory-farm
> eggs last time I was there (middle of last week).
> 
> Free-range, cage-free etc. anywhere from near $3/doz to $6 or so.
> 
> Allan
> 
> Curt Raymond  writes:
> 
>> Interesting, remind me where "here" is.
>> 
>> I read the other day that US demand for eggs has gone up some absurd
>> percentage.
>> https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/26/shortages-eggs-stress-baking/
>> 
>> But in the 2 weeks since that article USDA says prices are coming back
>> down:
>> https://www.ams.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media/Egg%20Markets%20Overview.pdf
>> 
>> At the "regular" grocery store last Thursday there were only 6 packs of
>> organic eggs, no conventional eggs to be had. The co-op had local eggs
>> 2 weeks ago but they were $3/dz. Really nice eggs though.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Sunday, April 12, 2020, 6:37:02 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I've heard that also.
>> 
>> Weird because eggs are in no short supply here.
>> 
>> When you can buy a dozen eggs for $1 I think the economics of raising
>> your own chickens don't work.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> I saw a story on the news that now people are flocking to the farm
>>> stores and hoarding chickens. It is that time of year to buy chicks
>>> and I guess they think they will suddenly raise chickens to get their
>>> eggs. It is really getting ridiculous.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] People are hoarding chickens now

2020-04-13 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I'm in south-central Indiana. Abundant supply of eggs at the
supermarkets. $0.97/doz for the non-free-range non-organic factory-farm
eggs last time I was there (middle of last week).

Free-range, cage-free etc. anywhere from near $3/doz to $6 or so.

Allan

Curt Raymond  writes:

> Interesting, remind me where "here" is.
>
> I read the other day that US demand for eggs has gone up some absurd
> percentage.
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/26/shortages-eggs-stress-baking/
>
> But in the 2 weeks since that article USDA says prices are coming back
> down:
> https://www.ams.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media/Egg%20Markets%20Overview.pdf
>
> At the "regular" grocery store last Thursday there were only 6 packs of
> organic eggs, no conventional eggs to be had. The co-op had local eggs
> 2 weeks ago but they were $3/dz. Really nice eggs though.
>
> -Curt
>
> On Sunday, April 12, 2020, 6:37:02 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> I've heard that also.
>
> Weird because eggs are in no short supply here.
>
> When you can buy a dozen eggs for $1 I think the economics of raising
> your own chickens don't work.
>
> Allan
>
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:
>
>> I saw a story on the news that now people are flocking to the farm
>> stores and hoarding chickens. It is that time of year to buy chicks
>> and I guess they think they will suddenly raise chickens to get their
>> eggs. It is really getting ridiculous.
>>
>>

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Re: [MBZ] People are hoarding chickens now

2020-04-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 Shorter than that, in 6 months you eat the chickens. That is if you don't want 
to over-winter. Its cold enough here I wouldn't want to. They don't lay as good 
over the winter anyway.

-Curt

On Sunday, April 12, 2020, 6:39:24 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 If they buy chicks now it will be about 6 months before they lay any eggs. 
That is if they don’t end up with all roosters. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 12, 2020, at 5:36 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've heard that also.
> 
> Weird because eggs are in no short supply here.
> 
> When you can buy a dozen eggs for $1 I think the economics of raising
> your own chickens don't work.
> 
> Allan
> 
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> I saw a story on the news that now people are flocking to the farm
>> stores and hoarding chickens. It is that time of year to buy chicks
>> and I guess they think they will suddenly raise chickens to get their
>> eggs. It is really getting ridiculous.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] People are hoarding chickens now

2020-04-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 Interesting, remind me where "here" is.
I read the other day that US demand for eggs has gone up some absurd 
percentage.https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/26/shortages-eggs-stress-baking/
But in the 2 weeks since that article USDA says prices are coming back 
down:https://www.ams.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media/Egg%20Markets%20Overview.pdf
At the "regular" grocery store last Thursday there were only 6 packs of organic 
eggs, no conventional eggs to be had. The co-op had local eggs 2 weeks ago but 
they were $3/dz. Really nice eggs though.
-Curt

On Sunday, April 12, 2020, 6:37:02 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I've heard that also.

Weird because eggs are in no short supply here.

When you can buy a dozen eggs for $1 I think the economics of raising
your own chickens don't work.

Allan

Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:

> I saw a story on the news that now people are flocking to the farm
> stores and hoarding chickens. It is that time of year to buy chicks
> and I guess they think they will suddenly raise chickens to get their
> eggs. It is really getting ridiculous.
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] People are hoarding chickens now

2020-04-13 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 I had thought about chickens years ago when we first moved here but Angie 
didn't want to. Now with eggs being kind of hard to get she's rethinking.I'm 
going to have to take 6 weeks of furlough in the next 6 months, I'll have 
plenty of time.
Instead I think I'll spend those weeks at camp trimming trees and making 
lantern videos. One pays me a little stipend now, the other is my retirement 
fund.
-Curt

On Sunday, April 12, 2020, 6:13:21 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I saw a story on the news that now people are flocking to the farm 
stores and hoarding chickens.  It is that time of year to buy chicks and 
I guess they think they will suddenly raise chickens to get their eggs.  
It is really getting ridiculous.


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Re: [MBZ] People are hoarding chickens now

2020-04-13 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I have been there but don’t remember chickens. Probably just my faulty memory. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 12, 2020, at 11:19 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> G Mann via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Should be fun to watch... a New York high rise apartment over run with
>> flocks of chickens ... in the hallways and elevators... I see the
>> making of a movie script... haha
> 
> Ever been to Key West? Chickens roaming the streets everywhere.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] People are hoarding chickens now

2020-04-13 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Chickens roam Ybor City, the neighborhood on the east side of Tampa that was 
settled by the Cubans and had many a cigar factory in the day. They’re a hotly 
contested topic on a regular basis as gentrification has started and the new 
residents aren’t terribly keen about the noise and mess.

-D

> On Apr 13, 2020, at 12:58 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I have... also, in Phoenix, in the Mexican section... Lots of free range
> chickens...
> Funny little side story, about 3 weeks ago.. was talking to a cop friend
> here who had just busted two women in a van who were driving the
> neighborhoods and stealing chickens.. when they opened the van.. it had two
> pigs and a goat, as well as a number of "chicken napped" chickens...
> AND .. a supply of meth and other drugs...
> They were known players with a stack of wants and warrants.. so the free
> range city chickens are safe for now while they are in secure housing at
> the womens prison... violation of parole, so not even a trial just straight
> to jail... oops..
> 
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 9:19 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> G Mann via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> Should be fun to watch... a New York high rise apartment over run with
>>> flocks of chickens ... in the hallways and elevators... I see the
>>> making of a movie script... haha
>> 
>> Ever been to Key West? Chickens roaming the streets everywhere.
>> 
>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] People are hoarding chickens now

2020-04-12 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
I have... also, in Phoenix, in the Mexican section... Lots of free range
chickens...
Funny little side story, about 3 weeks ago.. was talking to a cop friend
here who had just busted two women in a van who were driving the
neighborhoods and stealing chickens.. when they opened the van.. it had two
pigs and a goat, as well as a number of "chicken napped" chickens...
AND .. a supply of meth and other drugs...
They were known players with a stack of wants and warrants.. so the free
range city chickens are safe for now while they are in secure housing at
the womens prison... violation of parole, so not even a trial just straight
to jail... oops..

On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 9:19 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> G Mann via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > Should be fun to watch... a New York high rise apartment over run with
> > flocks of chickens ... in the hallways and elevators... I see the
> > making of a movie script... haha
>
> Ever been to Key West? Chickens roaming the streets everywhere.
>
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] People are hoarding chickens now

2020-04-12 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
G Mann via Mercedes  writes:

> Should be fun to watch... a New York high rise apartment over run with
> flocks of chickens ... in the hallways and elevators... I see the
> making of a movie script... haha

Ever been to Key West? Chickens roaming the streets everywhere.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] People are hoarding chickens now

2020-04-12 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Does your HOA allow you to keep a flock of chickens?  Just a trick question
for all those city dwellers who suddenly decide to "raise some chickens"...

Should be fun to watch... a New York high rise apartment over run with
flocks of chickens ... in the hallways and elevators... I see the making of
a movie script... haha

On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 5:47 PM fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:

> > Clay wrote:
>
> > Three hens will have you choking in eggs.
>
> Only if they are happy enough to be laying.  And still alive.  And
> the critters don't get the eggs before you.
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Re: [MBZ] People are hoarding chickens now

2020-04-12 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Clay wrote:

> Three hens will have you choking in eggs.

Only if they are happy enough to be laying.  And still alive.  And
the critters don't get the eggs before you.

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Re: [MBZ] People are hoarding chickens now

2020-04-12 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Allan wrote:

> When you can buy a dozen eggs for $1 I think the economics of
> raising your own chickens don't work.

Money isn't the only consideration.  Eggs from true free-range
chickens really do taste a lot better.  A _lot_ better.

As well as control over pesticides, hormones, feed, etc.

> > Kaleb wrote:

> >  I guess they think they will suddenly raise chickens to get
> > their eggs. It is really getting ridiculous.

Why not?  It's just a matter of buying chicks, turn 'em loose in
the yard, and pick up eggs - right?

The opossums, raccoons, and coyotes will be feasting soon!

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Re: [MBZ] People are hoarding chickens now

2020-04-12 Thread Clay via Mercedes
Three hens will have you choking in eggs.  Far more than you can consume, 
unless you do eggs and bacon every day.

For chicken, it is economy of scale.  A handful of hens are a pass time, a 
recreational opportunity, that pops out some eggs as a side effect.

clay

> On Apr 12, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've heard that also.
> 
> Weird because eggs are in no short supply here.
> 
> When you can buy a dozen eggs for $1 I think the economics of raising
> your own chickens don't work.
> 
> Allan


clay monroe

I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm 
looking for didn't fall out.




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Re: [MBZ] People are hoarding chickens now

2020-04-12 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
If they buy chicks now it will be about 6 months before they lay any eggs. That 
is if they don’t end up with all roosters. 

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> On Apr 12, 2020, at 5:36 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've heard that also.
> 
> Weird because eggs are in no short supply here.
> 
> When you can buy a dozen eggs for $1 I think the economics of raising
> your own chickens don't work.
> 
> Allan
> 
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> I saw a story on the news that now people are flocking to the farm
>> stores and hoarding chickens. It is that time of year to buy chicks
>> and I guess they think they will suddenly raise chickens to get their
>> eggs. It is really getting ridiculous.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] People are hoarding chickens now

2020-04-12 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I've heard that also.

Weird because eggs are in no short supply here.

When you can buy a dozen eggs for $1 I think the economics of raising
your own chickens don't work.

Allan

Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:

> I saw a story on the news that now people are flocking to the farm
> stores and hoarding chickens. It is that time of year to buy chicks
> and I guess they think they will suddenly raise chickens to get their
> eggs. It is really getting ridiculous.
>
>

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[MBZ] People are hoarding chickens now

2020-04-12 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I saw a story on the news that now people are flocking to the farm 
stores and hoarding chickens.  It is that time of year to buy chicks and 
I guess they think they will suddenly raise chickens to get their eggs.  
It is really getting ridiculous.



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