Same lady ... same ending.
On 2/10/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh no, another date?
--
1977 240D
1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed
1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
some people just dont learn
LT Don wrote:
Same lady ... same ending.
On 2/10/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh no, another date?
--
1977 240D
1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed
1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Uh ... uh ... yea, we don't.
On 2/11/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
some people just don't learn
--
1977 240D
1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed
1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
you need GOOD working brakes for this
Yeah, or something like this might happen:
http://www.binderbulletin.org/images/gallery2/tow_roll.jpg
There's good advice on rope towing a vehicle here:
http://www.binderbulletin.org/techlib/towing.htm
The gist is, if you're
Well, I bought the car because it has a pretty good body though it is in
need of a paint job. The seats seam springy and the upholstery is pretty
good. Now for the BAD. It does turn over but won't run. Starting fluid (I
know it's bad) didn't even get a sputter or clunk out of it, so either
You will be driving it to the OkieQ, I am sure.
On 2/10/06, kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, I bought the car because it has a pretty good body though it is in
need of a paint job. The seats seam springy and the upholstery is pretty
good. Now for the BAD. It does turn over but
It is in fact a 220D, but the year is off. It may have sat on a dealer
lot till 74 and titled then, its probably really a 73 though.
kevin kraly wrote:
Well, I bought the car because it has a pretty good body though it is in
need of a paint job. The seats seam springy and the upholstery is
The vapors from the starting fluid weren't coming out the exhaust which
could be an indication that it is either in need of some serious
engine work
or an engine transplant.
Does the cam turn?
-- Jim
Does the cam turn?
Not sure yet. My dad and I hooked a battery up to it to see if it was going
to drive home or need a tow. It clearly needs a tow. Once it gets home and
I can throw some tools at it and have someone see if the cam is turning, I
can go from there. The IP was squirting fuel
the year is off. It may have sat on a dealer
lot till 74 and titled then, its probably really a 73 though.
That's what I figured. I guess I'll refer to it as a '73 220D.
Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1973 220D unnameds
You will be driving it to the OkieQ, I am sure.
It will be a nice summer project, that's for sure! Maybe, it will be
running in time for some summer cruisin'.
Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1973 220D unnamed
And well sorted out for the ArticQ run next year!
On 2/9/06, kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You will be driving it to the OkieQ, I am sure.
It will be a nice summer project, that's for sure! Maybe, it will be
running in time for some summer cruisin'.
Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1973
bad fuel? try a tow start and see if you get fuel to the injectors
i will give you $110 for it
On Thursday, February 9, 2006, at 04:45 PM, kevin kraly wrote:
Well, I bought the car because it has a pretty good body though it is
in
need of a paint job. The seats seam springy and the
If the pump is pumping and it is turning over, then the cam is also
turning. If it weren't you would have heard a loud bang and crunching as
the cam and towers broke from a piston driving a valve where the cam used
to be.
If it is a 4 spd, pull start it. I bet it will run. Then try to get
How far should the IP squirt fuel out of a cracked injector line?
~
~Does the cam turn?
~
~Not sure yet. My dad and I hooked a battery up to it to see if it was going
~to drive home or need a tow. It clearly needs a tow. Once it gets home and
~I can throw some tools at it and have someone
On Friday, February 10, 2006, at 08:42 AM, Luther Gulseth wrote:
How far should the IP squirt fuel out of a cracked injector line?
It depends on the size of the hole. At over 1800psi it can really get
some distance.
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
I thought so, all I saw last night was oozing from the lines. Maybe this car
has an injection problem, and that's why it seems to fire only once every few
seconds when it's trying to start. What's the best way to check the injection
pump?
~
~
~On Friday, February 10, 2006, at 08:42 AM,
It is a Grey Market car.
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Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 7:45 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes mailing list
Subject: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update
Well, I bought the car because it has
I'm pretty sure the pump has prime. Each time I've tried to start it, I pull
the fuel lines and run them from a bottle of fresh diesel (just like running a
purge). I pump the primer pump until strong shots of diesel shoot out of the
return line. I had the injectors out this weekend and
If you see oozing, my guess is that the pump is ok. if the caps are loose,
you see fuel ooze. if the caps are cracked just right, you will get high
pressure spurts. about 1/16 turn to 1/8 turn is cracking the line.
it is more likely that you have low compression/stuck rings or bad glow
free,
the only good way is turn engine fast.
Trampas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Luther Gulseth
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 11:40 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update
'82 300D (Blue Bomber). I poured
Should I try 2 batteries in series? Will that hurt the glow plugs?
~
~I have seen more than one diesel sit and then not start. The only way to get
~them started was to pull start them or hook 24V to starter. The problem is
~the rings get stuck. Rings are funny things, the more compression on the
Luther Gulseth wrote:
How far should the IP squirt fuel out of a cracked injector line?
The quantity of fuel ejected from the injection line with each cycle of
the injection pump is TINY. If you agree that the engine consumes maybe
a liter an hour at idle. In an hour there are maybe 72,000
Luther Gulseth wrote:
Should I try 2 batteries in series? Will that hurt the glow plugs?
Two batteries in series MIGHT easily burn up a few glow plugs or at
least fry the glow plug fuse, but I've never tried it.
Marshall
--
Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned
easier to tow start.
Trampas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Marshall Booth
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:32 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update
Luther Gulseth wrote:
Should I try 2 batteries
List
~Subject: Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update
~
~Luther Gulseth wrote:
~ Should I try 2 batteries in series? Will that hurt the glow plugs?
~
~
~Two batteries in series MIGHT easily burn up a few glow plugs or at
~least fry the glow plug fuse, but I've never tried it.
~
~Marshall
On Friday, February 10, 2006, at 09:35 AM, Luther Gulseth wrote:
I thought so, all I saw last night was oozing from the lines. Maybe
this car has an injection problem, and that's why it seems to fire
only once every few seconds when it's trying to start.
If you're referring to the
On Friday, February 10, 2006, at 11:40 AM, Luther Gulseth wrote:
I'll replace both fuel filters and fill the spin-on with ATF.
Why ATF?
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
Maybe he wants to grease up the cylinders a little. And if its an old
diesel, how much harm can that really do?
On 2/10/06, John Berryman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Friday, February 10, 2006, at 11:40 AM, Luther Gulseth wrote:
I'll replace both fuel filters and fill the spin-on with ATF.
On Friday, February 10, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Luther Gulseth wrote:
Should I try 2 batteries in series? Will that hurt the glow plugs?
I don't see how it would hurt the GPs and the starter will probably
love it but consider isolating the rest of your electrical system lest
you fry
On Friday, February 10, 2006, at 01:46 PM, Sunil Hari wrote:
Maybe he wants to grease up the cylinders a little. And if its an old
diesel, how much harm can that really do?
He'll be getting straight ATF to the injectors. Not quite sure he
understands what and why he's doing some of this
For extra lubrication and compression to everything involved. The car has sat
around for about 10 years.
~
~
~On Friday, February 10, 2006, at 11:40 AM, Luther Gulseth wrote:
~
~ I'll replace both fuel filters and fill the spin-on with ATF.
~
~
~ Why ATF?
~
~Johnny B.
~I Mac Therefore I
I have a diesel compression checker in my posession. What values should I see
on a cold engine that's not been used for around 10 years?
~
~
~On Friday, February 10, 2006, at 12:07 PM, Luther Gulseth wrote:
~
~ Should I try 2 batteries in series? Will that hurt the glow plugs?
~
~
~ I
Luther Gulseth wrote:
I have a diesel compression checker in my posession. What values should I see
on a cold engine that's not been used for around 10 years?
Mercedes has no specs for cold compression checks. They can be useful for
diagnosing problems, but there are no hard and fast rules
Luther Gulseth wrote:
For extra lubrication and compression to everything involved. The car has sat
around for about 10 years.
I don't see how ATF will increase compression, though. Why not just put
straight diesel in the spin-on filter?
--
John L. Ervine
1981 240D 4-spd 270+kmi
1980
I don't want you to do it for me. I would like to learn on my own. I paid
good money for this car ($150) with a nearly perfect interior and not a touch
of rust on the paint. It only has 75kmi on the ticker. The salvage yard I got
it from said it had a hole in the block. I have yet to find
On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 14:10:58 -0500 John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Luther Gulseth wrote:
For extra lubrication and compression to everything involved. The car
has sat around for about 10 years.
I don't see how ATF will increase compression, though. Why not just put
straight diesel
It's thicker than diesel and won't wash the walls of each cylinder like diesel
can.
I can see that I'm just gonna have to find a hill to use as brakes and pull
start the dang thing. I'll do that Sunday since I have a date tonight and have
to work tomorrow.
Luther
~
~Luther Gulseth wrote:
Huh? Did I miss the memo on this?
On 2/10/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'll do that Sunday since I have a date tonight
Luther
--
1977 240D
1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed
1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle
http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Tow start it!
Trampas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Luther Gulseth
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update
I don't want you to do it for me. I would like to learn on my
: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update
It's thicker than diesel and won't wash the walls of each cylinder like
diesel can.
I can see that I'm just gonna have to find a hill to use as brakes and pull
start the dang thing. I'll do that Sunday since I have a date tonight and
have to work tomorrow.
Luther
On Friday, February 10, 2006, at 02:03 PM, Luther Gulseth wrote:
For extra lubrication and compression to everything involved. The car
has sat around for about 10 years.
Where'd you get the idea from?
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
I can be such an ID10T sometimes, I'd done forgotten about the E-brake.
~
~Luther,
~
~If the brakes don't work fix them first or at least make sure the E-brake
~works. Then two start it.
~
~Trampas
~
--
Luther KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (230,xxx kmi)
'82 300CD (158,222 kmi)
'90 300E
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From: Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update
Luther,
If the brakes don't work fix them first or at least make sure the E-brake
works. Then two start it.
Trampas
-Original
Luther Gulseth wrote:
I thought so, all I saw last night was oozing from the lines.
The injection pump is a positive-displacement pump. That means it
pushes out a fixed amount of fuel, and the pressure will build to
whatever it needs to to allow that amount to flow.
The upshot is you
And I paid $50 for my VW diesel and will probably curl up with a good book
tonight, unless my parts from Rusty arrive today, in which case I will be
installing a new brake master cylinder.
On 2/10/06, Dave Wakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hard to remember who's cheap diesel these posts are for -
Mine's a '82 300D, see the signature line.
~
~Hard to remember who's cheap diesel these posts are for - Luther has an 83
~240D, paid $150, wants to use ATF instead of diesel, and has a date tonight.
~
~Kevin has a 74 (73) 220D, paid $100, and we don't know what he is doing
~tonight.
~
~Is this
Hard to remember who's cheap diesel these posts are for - Luther has an 83
240D, paid $150, wants to use ATF instead of diesel, and has a date tonight.
Kevin has a 74 (73) 220D, paid $100, and we don't know what he is doing
tonight.
You've got it right.
Kevin in HIllsboro Oregon
1973 220D x01K
Luther Gulseth wrote:
I have a diesel compression checker in my posession. What values should I see
on a cold engine that's not been used for around 10 years?
On an engine that hasn't run in years, the results of a cold compression
test will be all over the place - and only if they are
On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 01:33:24PM -0500, Luther Gulseth wrote:
Sure, much easier to tow start if you have a tow dolly or known good
brakes..
I think you've solved the brake problem. Don't need a tow dolly, all you need
is a rope and something that can pull. And in your line of work, you
I also have a compression tester. Maybe it's time to pull it out and test
things on this 220D once it's home in the driveway.
Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon
1973 220D unnaned and unknown miles
NOo. I don't like the odds of loosing the nearly perfect interior!
Nor do I want a n/a 240! Me likes the turbos.
~
~I say let's find a HUUGE hill, put both mine and Luther's cars at the
~top with filters filled with ATF and wel-soaked cylinders and send them both
~to the
If it has been sitting, chances are its going to take a tow start to
revive it, if the engine is not shot. Question is, why has it been
sitting in the first place?
Luther Gulseth wrote:
'82 300D (Blue Bomber). I poured some Marvel Mystery oil into each cylinder last evening
and then
Of Marshall Booth
~Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 12:32 PM
~To: Mercedes Discussion List
~Subject: Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update
~
~Luther Gulseth wrote:
~ Should I try 2 batteries in series? Will that hurt the glow plugs?
~
~
~Two batteries in series MIGHT easily burn up a few glow plugs
Its going to need at least around 270 to start. If you are seeing
figured below 200, into the 100's or even lower, its got stuck rings or
is just plain worn out. If its healthy, you will see well into the 300's.
Luther Gulseth wrote:
I have a diesel compression checker in my posession.
probably holes in the pistons.
Luther Gulseth wrote:
I don't want you to do it for me. I would like to learn on my own. I paid
good money for this car ($150) with a nearly perfect interior and not a touch
of rust on the paint. It only has 75kmi on the ticker. The salvage yard I got
it
Oh no, another date?
Luther Gulseth wrote:
It's thicker than diesel and won't wash the walls of each cylinder like diesel can.
I can see that I'm just gonna have to find a hill to use as brakes and pull
start the dang thing. I'll do that Sunday since I have a date tonight and have
to
, February 10, 2006 2:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] $100 MB diesel update
It's thicker than diesel and won't wash the walls of each cylinder like
diesel can.
I can see that I'm just gonna have to find a hill to use as brakes and pull
start the dang thing. I'll do that Sunday
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