Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Cool!  Thanks, guys, I’ll do some pushing on it and see.

-D

> On Feb 12, 2018, at 3:13 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Pushing on things with a dowel and listening for changes to the noise can
> help isolate the faulty bits.
> 
> I think the shocks last about half as long as the bearings, so odds are
> good that the shock is bad, could be both.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 3:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> It’s pretty much identical from the looks of things. Shock, big spring,
>> lever, idler pulley.
>> 
>> So I’m wondering if it’s just a worn out shock?  Everything as far as the
>> idler pulley and lever seemed pretty tight, no radial play.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Pushing on things with a dowel and listening for changes to the noise can
help isolate the faulty bits.

I think the shocks last about half as long as the bearings, so odds are
good that the shock is bad, could be both.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 3:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It’s pretty much identical from the looks of things. Shock, big spring,
> lever, idler pulley.
>
> So I’m wondering if it’s just a worn out shock?  Everything as far as the
> idler pulley and lever seemed pretty tight, no radial play.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It’s mostly likely just the shot. They redesigned it for 606 and it just 
doesn’t really wear out like the older ones do

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> On Feb 12, 2018, at 2:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It’s pretty much identical from the looks of things. Shock, big spring, 
> lever, idler pulley.
> 
> So I’m wondering if it’s just a worn out shock?  Everything as far as the 
> idler pulley and lever seemed pretty tight, no radial play.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 12, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hmmm, I don't remember it like Kaleb, but I'll defer to him.  I was under
>> the impression that the assembly is very similar to the OM603 bearing/lever
>> combination.
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It’s pretty much identical from the looks of things. Shock, big spring, lever, 
idler pulley.

So I’m wondering if it’s just a worn out shock?  Everything as far as the idler 
pulley and lever seemed pretty tight, no radial play.

-D



> On Feb 12, 2018, at 2:53 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hmmm, I don't remember it like Kaleb, but I'll defer to him.  I was under
> the impression that the assembly is very similar to the OM603 bearing/lever
> combination.
> 
> -
> Max
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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Hmmm, I don't remember it like Kaleb, but I'll defer to him.  I was under
the impression that the assembly is very similar to the OM603 bearing/lever
combination.

-
Max
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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Oh, sorry, I was talking about the 603.  I don't know about the 606,  
unless it is the same.  I thought the 606 below the head was pretty much 
the same as the 603.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
February 12, 2018 at 12:16 PM
I can tell you with 100% certainty the bearing is separate. The 
bearing is actually the bolt on the 606.


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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The part is completely different than on the 603. I’m not really sure I have 
ever had one go bad like they do in the 603. You sure it’s not just the belt 
shock rattling?

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> On Feb 12, 2018, at 12:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> So does the pin/bolt have to be changed with everything else to eliminate the 
> noise?  It’s expensive from the stealer - over $50.  I don’t recall that 
> being the case on the 603.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Feb 12, 2018, at 1:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I can tell you with 100% certainty the bearing is separate. The bearing is 
>> actually the bolt on the 606.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Actually, after drilling down in the EPC, I don’t see a bearing, nothing 
>>> but a washer (23) and a seal ring (29) behind it.  So that means there must 
>>> be a bearing or bushings in the lever.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

So does the pin/bolt have to be changed with everything else to eliminate the 
noise?  It’s expensive from the stealer - over $50.  I don’t recall that being 
the case on the 603.

-D


> On Feb 12, 2018, at 1:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I can tell you with 100% certainty the bearing is separate. The bearing is 
> actually the bolt on the 606.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 12, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, after drilling down in the EPC, I don’t see a bearing, nothing but 
>> a washer (23) and a seal ring (29) behind it.  So that means there must be a 
>> bearing or bushings in the lever.
>> 
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Looks the same as the 603 - is it?

-D


> On Feb 12, 2018, at 1:16 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I can tell you with 100% certainty the bearing is separate. The bearing is 
> actually the bolt on the 606.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 12, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, after drilling down in the EPC, I don’t see a bearing, nothing but 
>> a washer (23) and a seal ring (29) behind it.  So that means there must be a 
>> bearing or bushings in the lever.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The bearing is separate from the leaver 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone


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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I can tell you with 100% certainty the bearing is separate. The bearing is 
actually the bolt on the 606.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 12, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Actually, after drilling down in the EPC, I don’t see a bearing, nothing but 
> a washer (23) and a seal ring (29) behind it.  So that means there must be a 
> bearing or bushings in the lever.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 12, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The bearing is separate from the leaver 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Does this have the bearing in it when you buy the lever?  I see the bearing 
>>> as a separate part in the parts breakdown, but no one seems to offer it in 
>>> the aftermarket, or even show it, which makes me suspect the bearing is 
>>> part of the lever.
>>> 
>>> When I got one of these for my 350SDL the bearing was in it.
>>> 
>>> Oldest son’s E300D is starting to make noises so I’m trying to help him be 
>>> proactive.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I remember this well from my 350SDL, and I recall your sharing your experiences 
about it with me - thank you.

His is barely even chirping right now, but fortunately he mentioned it to me.  
I loosened the belt on Saturday and checked everything, and there was minimal 
slop in both the lever and idler pulley.  I have given oldest son the “list ‘o’ 
parts” to procure and once he has them we’ll take care of it.

-D


> On Feb 12, 2018, at 1:04 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The arm(Lever) comes with the bearing as an assembly.  I have a dead one that 
> someday I want to push the bearing out of and get a bearing number.  Then 
> those that are inclined to can replace just the bearing.
> 
> Q was never able to find the bearing separately or a bearing number.  I have 
> always had to buy the assembly.
> 
> Not to worry.  They can rattle for years without causing any further 
> problems.  Just an annoying rattle.  I think you could take if off, push out 
> the bearing, turn it 45 to 135º, reassemble and everything would be fine 
> again.  Since the arm oly turns a few degrees, the rollers wear into the 
> races, but by turning the bearing in the arm, you'd have virtually unworn 
> surfaces.
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> February 12, 2018 at 11:29 AM
>> Does this have the bearing in it when you buy the lever? I see the bearing 
>> as a separate part in the parts breakdown, but no one seems to offer it in 
>> the aftermarket, or even show it, which makes me suspect the bearing is part 
>> of the lever.
>> 
>> When I got one of these for my 350SDL the bearing was in it.
>> 
>> Oldest son’s E300D is starting to make noises so I’m trying to help him be 
>> proactive.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The arm(Lever) comes with the bearing as an assembly.  I have a dead one 
that someday I want to push the bearing out of and get a bearing 
number.  Then those that are inclined to can replace just the bearing.


Q was never able to find the bearing separately or a bearing number.  I 
have always had to buy the assembly.


Not to worry.  They can rattle for years without causing any further 
problems.  Just an annoying rattle.  I think you could take if off, push 
out the bearing, turn it 45 to 135º, reassemble and everything would be 
fine again.  Since the arm oly turns a few degrees, the rollers wear 
into the races, but by turning the bearing in the arm, you'd have 
virtually unworn surfaces.

Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
February 12, 2018 at 11:29 AM
Does this have the bearing in it when you buy the lever? I see the 
bearing as a separate part in the parts breakdown, but no one seems to 
offer it in the aftermarket, or even show it, which makes me suspect 
the bearing is part of the lever.


When I got one of these for my 350SDL the bearing was in it.

Oldest son’s E300D is starting to make noises so I’m trying to help 
him be proactive.


-D


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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Actually, after drilling down in the EPC, I don’t see a bearing, nothing but a 
washer (23) and a seal ring (29) behind it.  So that means there must be a 
bearing or bushings in the lever.




> On Feb 12, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The bearing is separate from the leaver 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 12, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Does this have the bearing in it when you buy the lever?  I see the bearing 
>> as a separate part in the parts breakdown, but no one seems to offer it in 
>> the aftermarket, or even show it, which makes me suspect the bearing is part 
>> of the lever.
>> 
>> When I got one of these for my 350SDL the bearing was in it.
>> 
>> Oldest son’s E300D is starting to make noises so I’m trying to help him be 
>> proactive.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Dan.

I tried buying the bearing separately. The combined price was higher that a 
complete lever assembly.

YMMV.

Fred.


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



From: Mercedes  on behalf of Dan Penoff via 
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Sent: 12 February 2018 12:58
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Cc: Dan Penoff
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

So I need to buy a bearing, too?  I could have sworn the bearing came with the 
lever on my 350SDL…

-D


> On Feb 12, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>
> The bearing is separate from the leaver
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

So I need to buy a bearing, too?  I could have sworn the bearing came with the 
lever on my 350SDL…

-D


> On Feb 12, 2018, at 12:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The bearing is separate from the leaver 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 12, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Does this have the bearing in it when you buy the lever?  I see the bearing 
>> as a separate part in the parts breakdown, but no one seems to offer it in 
>> the aftermarket, or even show it, which makes me suspect the bearing is part 
>> of the lever.
>> 
>> When I got one of these for my 350SDL the bearing was in it.
>> 
>> Oldest son’s E300D is starting to make noises so I’m trying to help him be 
>> proactive.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The bearing is separate from the leaver 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 12, 2018, at 11:29 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Does this have the bearing in it when you buy the lever?  I see the bearing 
> as a separate part in the parts breakdown, but no one seems to offer it in 
> the aftermarket, or even show it, which makes me suspect the bearing is part 
> of the lever.
> 
> When I got one of these for my 350SDL the bearing was in it.
> 
> Oldest son’s E300D is starting to make noises so I’m trying to help him be 
> proactive.
> 
> -D
> 
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[MBZ] Belt tensioner Lever on OM606

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Does this have the bearing in it when you buy the lever?  I see the bearing as 
a separate part in the parts breakdown, but no one seems to offer it in the 
aftermarket, or even show it, which makes me suspect the bearing is part of the 
lever.

When I got one of these for my 350SDL the bearing was in it.

Oldest son’s E300D is starting to make noises so I’m trying to help him be 
proactive.

-D


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