_Loops_ are the big problem. That, and the assumption that _any_ conductor
is even remotely perfect. Especially dirt. These factors are negligible in
'ideal'
circumstances, and crucial/deadly in non-ideal circumstances. Codes are the
way they are for very good reasons.
Lightning is about as
> > OK Don wrote:
> >
> > All the ground connections in/around the house should be
> > bonded - connected together with large low impedance wire to
> > minimize/eliminate "ground loops". Basically keeping them all
> > at the same potential.
> Dan wrote:
> True, but that ground should be at a
True, but that ground should be at a single point, not multiple points.
Hence the chastising for driving a ground rod at the AC unit. That would
conflict with the ground that should already exist at the service entrance.
-D
> On Jul 26, 2019, at 12:36 PM, OK Don via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>
Mitch Haley via Mercedes writes:
> There's some argument whether the outdoor unit should be earth
> grounded. I drove a ground rod for the first one I installed and was
> told not to do that, so I didn't do that again, didn't have trouble
> either way.
I think the idea is that all the earth and
All the ground connections in/around the house should be bonded - connected
together with large low impedance wire to minimize/eliminate "ground
loops". Basically keeping them all at the same potential.
On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 7:17 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>
> On July 26, 2019 at 12:33 AM fmiser via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>
> I don't know enough about the system, but it sounds like there are
> two pieces and the fried controller is connected to the distant
> part?
Generally speaking, the power goes to the outdoor unit, which is connected to
the
On Thu, 25 Jul 2019 23:33:38 -0500 fmiser via Mercedes
wrote:
> I don't know enough about the system, but it sounds like there are
> two pieces and the fried controller is connected to the distant
> part?
>
> This gets into "network system TVS"
>
> L-Com may make something suitable.
>
> > > Buggered wrote:
> > >
> > > I have 2 LG systems. Control board in one has fried twice to
> > > power hits. Other than that they have been great. It’s my
> > > understanding that Mitsubishi is the best, whatever that
> > Curley wrote:
> >
> > Wouldn't it make sense to put some form of surge
On Thu, 25 Jul 2019 13:04:25 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
wrote:
> Wouldn't it make sense to put some form of surge suppressor on the line
> to the control board?
Yes, but those are harder to find and specify ...
Craig
> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote on 7/23/19 10:23 PM:
> > I
Wouldn't it make sense to put some form of surge suppressor on the line
to the control board?
Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote on 7/23/19 10:23 PM:
I have 2 LG systems. Control board in one has fried twice to power hits. Other
than that they have been great. It’s my understanding that
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> Max Dillon via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 5:36 PM
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> Cc: Max Dillon
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Garage A/c Wuz:Test Message
>
> How large is your building? I'
How large is your building? I've got a two car garage, high ceiling. Not sure
if there is any insulation in the walls, I probably should insulate the garage
doors.
--
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
On July 23, 2019 10:27:26 PM EDT, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
wrote:
>I installed a 12K mini-split
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>> I have 2 LG systems. Control board in one has fried twice to power hits.
>> Other
>> than that they have been great. It’s my understanding that Mitsubishi is the
>>
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> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
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>
> I have 2 LG systems. Control board in one has fried twice
I have 2 LG systems. Control board in one has fried twice to power hits. Other
than that they have been great. It’s my understanding that Mitsubishi is the
best, whatever that means.
--FT
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> On Jul 23, 2019, at 1:58 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> People have DIY
I installed a 12K mini-split heat pump in my "barn" outbuilding a couple of
years back and It's worked well for me so far. The kit was about $600 And it
comes as a 120v 10 amp unit or a 220v 5 amp unit. . It required a 2 inch hole
for wires and refrigerant lines between the indoor and
He hasn't put the lift in yet
Rick
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Go to the expense of insulating
Curt.
Ah yes, I'm beginning to see the light!
Fred
Curt Raymond
2:28 PM (48 minutes ago)
to Mercedes, me
It's a place for storing junk. Mine has a snowmobile, lawnmower, loader,
60+ lanterns...
Curt
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 2:43 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Go to
Go to the expense of insulating the building first. Yeah, it won’t be cheap,
but if you do that and *then* put in an AC unit it will be far more efficient
and cool the place down a lot faster. Depending on that the walls are framed
out with and the centers, you could probably do it with foam
One of these days I would like to install a unit out in the shop. Would
probably take a 5 ton unit which would only run while I’m out there and
probably not keep it cool but tolerable.
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> On Jul 23, 2019, at 12:18 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Yeah, its
It's a place for storing junk. Mine has a snowmobile, lawnmower, loader, 60+
lanterns...
Curt
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On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 12:18 PM, Frederick Moir via
Mercedes wrote: What is a garage? Some kind of service
tool?
Fred.
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:28 AM Dan
I have Fujitsu units in my house and garage... still going strong 5 years
later. I installed them myself, which is heavily frond upon here in the
USA, but if you can do you own AC service work on your car (with a vacuum
pump and gauge set) you can install one of these. From how they're
designed
It’s behind a fence that sticks out next to my garage and in front of the
window. There’s maybe a gap of 6”-8” between the fence post and the wall of the
house that you can see it through, otherwise it’s completely invisible from the
street. I have shrubbery that masks the gap.
When our new
People have DIY installed Gree and still think it was a good deal two years
later.
Myself, I've only bought Fujitsu and LG, but I'd gladly buy Mitsubishi too.
Whatever the brand, you want the higher end variable speed inverter drive
compressor with variable speed indoor blower. Variable speed
Can you block the street view with shrubbery without ruining the air flow?
> On July 23, 2019 at 1:46 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>
> That was the next choice had I not been able to find a decently sized window
> unit. I may still go that route if the HOA gets ugly about my window
I see a lot of minisplit systems available now on Amazon. Variety of
brand names I've never heard of. I assume most are made by a handful of
Chinese companies. Wonder if any are any good?
Allan
Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes writes:
> Yeah, its wonderful... I have a 30k BTU minisplit in my
That was the next choice had I not been able to find a decently sized window
unit. I may still go that route if the HOA gets ugly about my window unit (a
no-no if it can be seen from the street, which it can’t unless you look
closely.)
-D
> On Jul 23, 2019, at 1:18 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via
Yeah, its wonderful... I have a 30k BTU minisplit in my garage. It was
nice and cool in there on Saturday when it was in the mid-high 90s and
humid! The amount of water draining from the condensation drain was pretty
impressive.
Jaime
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:28 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
What is a garage? Some kind of service tool?
Fred.
On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:28 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Make the time for it. You’ll kick yourself for not doing it earlier.
>
> I had a fuel hose on the 220SEb that cracked this morning. Pulled the car
> into
other stuff has been higher priority
Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 7/23/19 10:28 AM:
Make the time for it. You’ll kick yourself for not doing it earlier.
I had a fuel hose on the 220SEb that cracked this morning. Pulled the car into
the garage, closed the door, turned on the AC and
Make the time for it. You’ll kick yourself for not doing it earlier.
I had a fuel hose on the 220SEb that cracked this morning. Pulled the car into
the garage, closed the door, turned on the AC and went out anhour later and did
the work in relative comfort while the outside air is in the high
I've had a 18k BTU window AC sitting in a corner to put in #1 Daughter's
garage for 9 years. Cutting and framing a hole is no big deal, but
getting the 240v there is not an easy proposition. When I changed the
timing chain guides on her M116, I had to stop every couple minutes to
drain the
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