On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:54 PM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
OS 8.5 is still a robust system on the 7200 with a 603 chip
Agreed, and it runs like a scalded cat on any Mac with a 60x CPU.
Great if you want to run Word 5.1a, WriteNow, or some other 68K
program that doesn't play nice in
Not a one able to surf the interweb that I have found. Mostly used
for old fdd based gaming or marathon
Clay
On Apr 1, 2011, at 6:24 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:54 PM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net
wrote:
OS 8.5 is still a robust system on the 7200 with a 603
Keep Flash and Adobe Reader up to date.
Or better yet, run w/o Flash if you can.
Check the Mac section on this page:
http://www.adobe.com/support/security/
or search for 'adobe flash os x security'
Dave
Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com writes:
Apple are no longer updating 10.4
Neither is installed. I don't run Flash anywhere.
Allan
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 05:16 -0700, Dave C. w123wa...@gmail.com wrote:
Keep Flash and Adobe Reader up to date.
Or better yet, run w/o Flash if you can.
Check the Mac section on this page:
http://www.adobe.com/support/security/
or
OS 8.5 is still a robust system on the 7200 with a 603 chip
Clay
On Mar 30, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com writes:
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Allan Streib
str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
Apple are no longer updating 10.4
Are you
Do not fix it! I made the jump to Leopard, but that made me need to
Max out the RAM on my g4 ibook 1.33. Not as fast as before.
clay
Gump - She is green, simple and runs and runs
Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
POS SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
On Mar 26, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Allan
Nah, I wouldn't go to Leopard on it, if anything I would try a Linux or
BSD distro that's available for Mac PPC.
Allan
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:37 -0700, redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
Do not fix it! I made the jump to Leopard, but that made me need to
Max out the RAM on my g4 ibook 1.33.
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:37 AM, redghost redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
Do not fix it! I made the jump to Leopard, but that made me need to Max out
the RAM on my g4 ibook 1.33. Not as fast as before.
Strongly agree with Clay here. 10.4 is the best for G4 Macs.
I can see putting Linux on a G3
Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com writes:
I can see putting Linux on a G3 or older machine where OS X can be
annoyingly slow for many tasks. But for a G4, why bother when you
already have a great Unix environment and can get just about any
up-to-date software you might find on a newer
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
Apple are no longer updating 10.4
Are you really that worried about the lack of security updates on an
OS that already has a vanishingly small number of security problems to
begin with? It's not like you're talking
Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com writes:
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
Apple are no longer updating 10.4
Are you really that worried about the lack of security updates on an
OS that already has a vanishingly small number of security
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote:
For laptops that keep on keeping on it's hard to beat a ThinkPad T series.
Ditto here. A five-year-old Thinkpad with a lightweight Linux distro
like Peppermint or even Xubuntu is a screamer and makes a great
My wife has a G3 (!) clamshell iBook that she still uses every day for
her business.
Our laptops (in the house) are Pismos. A bit slow on some things,
and probably getting worse as more websites get crapped up, but
really lovely little machines. They're what, 11 years old now?
Ever see
Jim Cathey wrote:
Ever see anybody get 11 years out of a PC?
I'd have to check and see how old my Mom's (formerly Dad's) Panasonic Toughbook
is. I know it's time for another battery, and the one in it isn't original. It's
got Win95 or 98 on it.
My Zenith Minisport (PC-XT class portable,
point out that my MBP is a refurb, too, which makes it even
older...when I amortize the cost over its life I am way ahead of the game, I
figure.
MacDan
--- On Sun, 3/27/11, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:
From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: question about
My old Pismo is fine except that Word is horribly slow and web pages
can take forever to display. Bought a TiBook (1 Ghz) to replace it
last year, and that's what I drag around all the time now. Other
than being a bit slow on web page display or Photoshop, it's not bad.
I also got some
portable, IMHO.
Dan
--- On Sun, 3/27/11, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:
From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: question about older Mac PowerBook
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Date: Sunday, March 27, 2011, 10:48 AM
My old Pismo
Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net writes:
Ever see anybody get 11 years out of a PC?
I did, or more accurately could have. When the .com where I was working
went belly-up in 2000, I bought my Compaq PC at the liquidation fire
sale. Also had an even older Compaq that was given to me by a friend
LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com writes:
A lot of people I know bought 17 MBPs when they had the chance, and
every one of them now regrets it. The 17, while nice with the larger
screen real estate, is a real beast to lug around.
I have one for work, where I use mainly as a desktop replacement (I have
LWB250 wrote:
A lot of people I know bought 17 MBPs when they had the chance, and every one of
them now regrets it. The 17, while nice with the larger screen real estate, is a
real beast to lug around.
I wouldn't put my HP G72 in a backpack and carry it around a campus, but it's
about 1/2
Test the iPad keyboard for more than a few minutes before you buy.
On Mar 27, 2011, at 7:34 AM, LWB250 wrote:
I'm going on seven on my 15 CD MacBook Pro. Rather than buy a new laptop in
the near future, I may go the iPad route. My MBP will continue to do
everything I need it to for a long
I just spent a month using one at work for software and compliance testing. Not
a great means of inputting data, but a heck of a lot better than this little
keypad on my iPod...
Dan
Sent from my iPod
On Mar 27, 2011, at 11:57 AM, Dave C. w123wa...@gmail.com wrote:
Test the iPad keyboard for
I have an HP8540p for a work computer. Full size QWERTY keyboard and separate
keypad. Nice, but a beast to lug around.
Dan
Sent from my iPod
On Mar 27, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
LWB250 wrote:
A lot of people I know bought 17 MBPs when they had the chance, and
Dan Penoff wrote:
I have an HP8540p for a work computer. Full size QWERTY keyboard and separate
keypad. Nice, but a beast to lug around.
Imagine if it were 2 wider, 1 deeper, 1/4 thicker, and the same weight.
(My G72 is bigger but not as sturdily constructed)
Mitch.
pokey doing HD work and its much louder
than the 8200.
-Curt
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:16:39 -0400
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: question about older Mac PowerBook
Message-ID: m1ei5s1tm0@cs.indiana.edu
Content
IBM Thinkpad 600E, still running just fine, and blew circles around vista
laptops.
Walt
On Mar 27, 2011 10:00 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:
My wife has a G3 (!) clamshell iBook that she still uses every day for
her business.
Our laptops (in the house) are Pismos. A bit slow on
Yup - I have one going on 17 years now. It's running W95 and an AVL Genesis
card that is full length, 8 bit, and deep. I use it to program multi-image
slide shows (up to 9 projectors with 3 Dove dissolve units). I dont connect
it to the Internet, it's a dedicated box. I also have an original IBM
I forgot the Compaq N610c that's running as my web server. Daughter returned
it because it locked up all the time. It was built in 2002. It's been
running the website non-stop for three years now. So it's only 9 years old.
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 3:43 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:
Yup - I
My old K6-2 350 is still in working condition. I used it as a
desktop for 3-4 years, then loaded server on it and ran it as a
server (2000 then 2003) until it was 11 years old. After that, I
built up a 1 ghz server running 2003, and keep the old one to start
up and save backups to. Now it
...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Dieselhead
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 2:14 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: question about older Mac PowerBook
My old K6-2 350 is still in working condition. I used it as a
desktop for 3-4 years, then loaded server on it and ran
There is a chip in the battery that communicates with the laptop that
sometimes just dies. Battery is still charged, buts not smart
anymore, so it shows as bad. Had that issue with iBook battery.
Stopped taking a charge, but tests out as full, so no wonder it will
not charge. But try
A power manager reset with the battery installed should reset the
power manager circuit in the battery. If it is indeed dead, though,
it's toast.
One of the things I don't like about Li-ion batteries.
Peter
___
http://www.okiebenz.com
For new and used
My new battery from OWC arrived yesterday, and all is well again.
Kinda hated to spend the $$ on a laptop that old (12 PowerBook G4) but
the small size is ideal for portability, it has the best keyboard of any
laptop I've ever used, and it still does everything I need it to do so
I decided to
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: question about older Mac PowerBook
Message-ID: m1hbap3eh6@cs.indiana.edu
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
My new battery from OWC arrived yesterday, and all is well again.
Kinda hated to spend the $$ on a laptop
in the secondary market, better than
their larger (15 17) counterparts ever did.
MacDan
--- On Sat, 3/26/11, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: question about older Mac PowerBook
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes
It's cycles more than chronological time...
Apple guarantees them for sometime like 300 cycles...
Dan
Sent from my iPod
On Mar 22, 2011, at 4:14 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
Already tried the power manager reset; the battery icon revereted to
plugged in for a few minutes,
Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com writes:
It's cycles more than chronological time...
Apple guarantees them for sometime like 300 cycles...
What is a cycle? Is it a full discharge/full recharge, or any amount of
discharge followed by any amount of recharge?
Allan
Dan
Sent from my iPod
On
You can look on Apple's support site where they have some bulletins covering
battery usage and what constitutes a cycle.
The one I had that failed cacked with less than 100 cycles in two years. They
replaced it under AppleCare.
Dan
Sent from my iPod
On Mar 23, 2011, at 6:49 AM, Allan Streib
The battery is kaput. Replace it soon, or you risk data loss if you lose AC
power while the machine is running.
OWC makes some of the best aftermarket Mac laptop batteries.
MacDan
Sent from my iPod
On Mar 21, 2011, at 10:15 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
My PowerBook G4 today
I had one on my MacBook Pro that cacked with no warning. Not realizing the
battery had failed, it got unplugged while sleeping and as a result it goobered
up my hard drive and I had to do a complete restore.
Hence my warming about replacing it immediately.
All of Peter's suggestions are
Already tried the power manager reset; the battery icon revereted to
plugged in for a few minutes, then returned to the X symbol. So I
think the battery is dead.
I've ordered one from OWC. The current one is also an OWC battery; got
it at least 3 years ago, probably closer to 4, so I guess
@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: question about older Mac PowerBook
Already tried the power manager reset; the battery icon revereted to
plugged in for a few minutes, then returned to the X symbol. So I
think the battery is dead.
I've ordered one from OWC. The current one is also an OWC battery
It was dead a few weeks ago, actually its probably been dead for months but
you've been kidding yourself. ;)
-Curt
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 22:15:34 -0400
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] OT: question about older Mac PowerBook
Message-ID
My PowerBook G4 today started showing an X in the battery icon and it
will no longer charge the battery.
The battery has not been holding a charge like it used to, but I was
still able to get 30 - 45 minutes out of it a few weeks ago. Now, if I
unplug the power adapter the computer dies
Very likely. You could try a power manager reset with the battery
installed, though. How depends on the PB -- a Titanium has a
pushbutton under the keyboard up by the power button. Unplug the AC
and lift the keyboard, press the button, re-install the keyboard, and
plug it back in. When
Might be the charging circuit if not the battery
--R
On 3/21/2011 10:15 PM, Allan Streib wrote:
My PowerBook G4 today started showing an X in the battery icon and it
will no longer charge the battery.
The battery has not been holding a charge like it used to, but I was
still able to get 30 -
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