Re: [MBZ] Paint - was: 124 wagon water woe

2015-06-03 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

  Curly wrote:


 It is not a pretty car. 



 The paint is dead, so I have 2 candidates for
 Curt to apply a roller paint job, if I could only get him
 here to do it.

 I don't even own a paint sprayer, other than for latex
 house paint.  (airless)


Hmm.  If a house paint roller will work for painting a car -
what about a house paint airless sprayer to paint a car...

Just sayin'...


I think it could be used but there is a lot of viscosity difference, 
and I am not sure if you could get all the paint out with a solvent, 
then there are concerns about solvent damage to the hose and pump. 
The thin paint could probably be handled with a different nozzle, but 
I still have concerns about spatter, etc.


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Re: [MBZ] Paint - was: 124 wagon water woe

2015-06-03 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 03/06/2015 1:39 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:

Curly wrote:

It is not a pretty car.
The paint is dead, so I have 2 candidates for
Curt to apply a roller paint job, if I could only get him
here to do it.

I don't even own a paint sprayer, other than for latex
house paint.  (airless)

Hmm.  If a house paint roller will work for painting a car -
what about a house paint airless sprayer to paint a car...

Just sayin'...

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The rollers are usually the small foam rollers.
I have not painted a car with them but have had reasonable luck on 
things like a big tank on an air compressor and the upper half of an 
aluminum boat.
I did not thin the paint quite enough on the air tank and it has an 
appearance of orange peel like a course spray job but it is much better 
than it would likely be if I had done it with a brush.

Rustoleum type paint called Tremclad in Canada.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] Paint - was: 124 wagon water woe

2015-06-03 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
 I don't even own a paint sprayer, other than for latex house paint.
(airless) Hmm.  If a house paint roller will work for painting a car -
what about a house paint airless sprayer to paint a car... snip

On that subject. I have now painted a number of large items using an
airless sprayer paint rig and automotive grade paint. It required that I
use a spray nozzle that was sized properly for the automotive viscosity
paint, and that I buy a new, not contaminated with latex paint hose from
the pump to the spray handle, and surgically clean the rest of the spray
rig to prevent clogs and problems from residual latex paint left in the rig
from previous paint jobs.

I strongly suggest you talk with your airless spray rig supplier to get
guidance on the nozzle size for your particular rig that will work with
automotive viscosity paint. Then practice for a bit on some smooth plywood
or foam board panel to get the necessary feel for speed, volume, and
coverage.

Having now mastered the skill, I doubt I will ever mess with air driven
HVLP paint guns again for large jobs.. Something smaller than a car or an
airplane.. then yes, but only because cleanup for the airless after using
automotive grade paint is more involved..
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Re: [MBZ] Paint - was: 124 wagon water woe

2015-06-03 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I did the hood on my '83 240D and it was the best looking paint on the whole 
car. I never buffed that out but I suspect if I had it would have taken a 
really nice shine.
I've painted a bunch of lanterns with Rustoleum spray bombs (Philip has one) 
and been happy with the results. It took me awhile to learn a good technique 
but I can lay down a pretty good looking coat now. Its gonna be harder on a car 
because of the horizontal surfaces but still do-able. The last couple lanterns 
I've done I've done 4 color coats 10 minutes apart. Let it dry and harden two 
weeks, then cut, polish and clear coat for a nice shine, better than original...
Which reminds me I've got a couple projects to get to work on.
-Curt
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On 03/06/2015 1:39 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:
 Curly wrote:

 It is not a pretty car.
 The paint is dead, so I have 2 candidates for
 Curt to apply a roller paint job, if I could only get him
 here to do it.

 I don't even own a paint sprayer, other than for latex
 house paint.  (airless)
 Hmm.  If a house paint roller will work for painting a car -
 what about a house paint airless sprayer to paint a car...

 Just sayin'...

 ___


The rollers are usually the small foam rollers.
I have not painted a car with them but have had reasonable luck on 
things like a big tank on an air compressor and the upper half of an 
aluminum boat.
I did not thin the paint quite enough on the air tank and it has an 
appearance of orange peel like a course spray job but it is much better 
than it would likely be if I had done it with a brush.
Rustoleum type paint called Tremclad in Canada.

RB



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Re: [MBZ] Paint - was: 124 wagon water woe

2015-06-03 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Curly wrote:
 For the other 240D, I'd like to keep it Midnight Blue...

Is my 240D Midnight Blue? - you saw it.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Paint - was: 124 wagon water woe

2015-06-03 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes





Curly wrote:

 For the other 240D, I'd like to keep it Midnight Blue...


Is my 240D Midnight Blue? - you saw it.
mao



Lotta water over the dam since that day.  I think so.  if it is there 
should be a 904 somewhere on the data plate by the radiator.


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Re: [MBZ] Paint - was: 124 wagon water woe

2015-06-03 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes





 I don't even own a paint sprayer, other than for latex house paint.
(airless) Hmm.  If a house paint roller will work for painting a car -
what about a house paint airless sprayer to paint a car... snip

On that subject. I have now painted a number of large items using an
airless sprayer paint rig and automotive grade paint. It required that I
use a spray nozzle that was sized properly for the automotive viscosity
paint, and that I buy a new, not contaminated with latex paint hose from
the pump to the spray handle, and surgically clean the rest of the spray
rig to prevent clogs and problems from residual latex paint left in the rig
from previous paint jobs.

I strongly suggest you talk with your airless spray rig supplier to get
guidance on the nozzle size for your particular rig that will work with
automotive viscosity paint. Then practice for a bit on some smooth plywood
or foam board panel to get the necessary feel for speed, volume, and
coverage.

Having now mastered the skill, I doubt I will ever mess with air driven
HVLP paint guns again for large jobs.. Something smaller than a car or an
airplane.. then yes, but only because cleanup for the airless after using
automotive grade paint is more involved..


thanks for the  how to  That seems doable.  I'd probably try first 
on the tractor.  Not a lot of sheet metal, and it would be pretty 
easy to sand out and start over if it got bad runs or sags.  I have 
saved it my archive of MB stuff from over the years.  Maybe when my 
Round Tuit comes in...


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Re: [MBZ] Paint - was: 124 wagon water woe

2015-06-03 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Good info Curt!  The white 240D, I have considered painting with 
cans.  I had never thought of putting clear coat over rattle can 
paint.  Some of it now is pretty decent paint.  I am saving your info 
in my archive of MB stuff...


We always painted tractors with implement enamel, never automotive 
paint, even when it was pretty similar.  I'd probably use implement 
paint for the tractor  And I think that would do for the white 240D, 
if I can spray with the airless sprayer.


For the other 240D, I'd like to keep it Midnight Blue, so that would 
only work with an automotive metallic.  It is such a nice color on 
123 and 107, and I think it'd look good on a 126 also, but I've only 
seem pictures of one 126 in the color, and none in person.   When 
that Round Tuit comes in...


I did the hood on my '83 240D and it was the best looking paint on 
the whole car. I never buffed that out but I suspect if I had it 
would have taken a really nice shine.
I've painted a bunch of lanterns with Rustoleum spray bombs (Philip 
has one) and been happy with the results. It took me awhile to learn 
a good technique but I can lay down a pretty good looking coat now. 
Its gonna be harder on a car because of the horizontal surfaces but 
still do-able. The last couple lanterns I've done I've done 4 color 
coats 10 minutes apart. Let it dry and harden two weeks, then cut, 
polish and clear coat for a nice shine, better than original...

Which reminds me I've got a couple projects to get to work on.
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Paint - was: 124 wagon water woe

2015-06-03 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
 Curly wrote:

 It is not a pretty car.  

 The paint is dead, so I have 2 candidates for
 Curt to apply a roller paint job, if I could only get him
 here to do it.
 
 I don't even own a paint sprayer, other than for latex
 house paint.  (airless)

Hmm.  If a house paint roller will work for painting a car -
what about a house paint airless sprayer to paint a car...

Just sayin'...

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