[MBZ] SLS pumps

OM603 TD (and the 124 TE) runs a belt driven dual pump.  THe front is PS and the back is SLS. Several sources told me they were not repairable.   When I gave the pump numbers to Q, he came up with a kit.   I bought two.  I messed up one inner seal, but successfully rebuilt the pump.   Somewhere

Re: [MBZ] SLs for sale

No thanks. They're different colors. :(( On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 10:45 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Good luck bidding on these: > > http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/car-connections/perfect- > pair-original-owner-1950s-mercedes-benz-300sl-gullwing- > and-roadster-headed-to-auction/ar-BBBHL6J?l

[MBZ] SLs for sale

Good luck bidding on these: http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/car-connections/perfect-pair-original-owner-1950s-mercedes-benz-300sl-gullwing-and-roadster-headed-to-auction/ar-BBBHL6J?li=BBnb4R5&ocid=mailsignout -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of ou

Re: [MBZ] SLS Conversion

Right on! I thought he had a kit to ADD SLS. Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes June 2, 2017 at 12:26 PM I think that is disgusting. Car handles poorly w/o SLS. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okieb

Re: [MBZ] SLS Conversion

10 years ago it was super popular with the 16v set. Oh, well, their loss was my gain. I bought a 16v with bad spheres and control valve, and bought a used valve for $40 from some guy who deleted a working SLS from his W201. Mitch. > On June 2, 2017 at 1:31 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > >

Re: [MBZ] SLS Conversion

On Fri, 2 Jun 2017 13:13:58 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > Just came across this: > > http://slsconversion.com I wonder how many TDs and TEs will be destroyed because of this. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.ok

Re: [MBZ] SLS Conversion

Agreed. I was taken aback when I saw this. Apparently the seller is on eBay as well. Too bad. -D > On Jun 2, 2017, at 1:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > I think that is disgusting. Car handles poorly w/o SLS. > > On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > mailto:merced

Re: [MBZ] SLS Conversion

I think that is disgusting. Car handles poorly w/o SLS. On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Just came across this: > > http://slsconversion.com > > -D > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list

[MBZ] SLS Conversion

Just came across this: http://slsconversion.com -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] SLS in the Wild

List Cc: Bob Rentfro Sent: Monday, February 8, 2016 10:49 AM Subject: [MBZ] SLS in the Wild Finally saw and SLS AMG out in the real world today. I was going to take a picture of it, but there's a covey of clowns huddled around it. Looks to be silver with red leather. Very retro. The

Re: [MBZ] SLS in the Wild

yabbutt he has an SLS and you don't so who's the doucheboy? I saw an AMG GT a month or two ago, was in front of me at a stoplight, I sorta liked it. It was a dark gray, kinda like my Suburban, not sure the color did much for me but the car generally had some nice lines/curves. I'm surprised

[MBZ] SLS in the Wild

Finally saw and SLS AMG out in the real world today. I was going to take a picture of it, but there's a covey of clowns huddled around it. Looks to be silver with red leather. Very retro. The man who it belongs to looks like the lead rower the douche canoe. And he's vaping. Puffing on the douche fl

Re: [MBZ] sls

I paid $130 with my MB Club discount... On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 1:20 AM, Rick Hawkins Java wrote: > Andrew > > i've speculated about blackness in the sls oil > > i have it but don't worry about it > > the black could also come from the deteriorated hose > > you can change the seal on the back of

[MBZ] sls

Andrew i've speculated about blackness in the sls oil i have it but don't worry about it the black could also come from the deteriorated hose you can change the seal on the back of the sls pump i have one that i've never gotten around to doing (out of the car) and have been running a pump out

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

pressure the pump is capable of producing. If it does 130 bar it's good to go. Manfred Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2014 23:37:11 -0400 From: Mitch Haley Subject: Re: [MBZ] sls troubles Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > Is there a way to test the pump for "sufficient pressure"? Is th

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

And jackstands for $20 $100 (plus whatever usurious tax you have to pay there) and yer outfitted --R On 4/24/14 6:25 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Here you go http://click.harborfreightemail.com/?qs=de3a1ed369d61c56f2afbfabe0671bbf517133d1b8fb51843bdb750fe9a8b241f4e691157d1513fc --R

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

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Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

Here you go http://click.harborfreightemail.com/?qs=de3a1ed369d61c56f2afbfabe0671bbf517133d1b8fb51843bdb750fe9a8b241f4e691157d1513fc --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

> Andrew wrote: > > Is it easy to r/r the sls valve as well? Yes. The hardest or riskiest part is the lines/pipes. Like brake lines, they require the nut to spin on the line so rust and corrosion can interfere. A couple bolts hold the valve body to the car. Oh, and the link to the anti-sway b

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

> > > Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > > > > > So with my symptoms (bouncy rear, inability to raise rear of > > > the car under load), how likely is it that my valve is > > > defective? I strongly suspect you have two separate issues. But if you want the system to function as original, then the compo

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Is there a way to test the pump for "sufficient pressure"? Is this even plausible? It doesn't leak and the fluid circulates. So how is there a problem? If fluid is being returned to the filter under the reservoir cap, I would feel safe in concluding that the pump is

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

Is there a way to test the pump for "sufficient pressure"? Is this even plausible? It doesn't leak and the fluid circulates. So how is there a problem? On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: > Now there you go. > If Andrew believes he must use the tool because the manual told

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

Andrew has used the real thing. He is now spoiled:) Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 23, 2014, at 6:16 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: > > Now there you go. > If Andrew believes he must use the tool because the manual told him to, then > he is also going to believe he must use the CORRECT TOOL! > I doubt

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

Now there you go. If Andrew believes he must use the tool because the manual told him to, then he is also going to believe he must use the CORRECT TOOL! I doubt a knockoff will be sufficient for his purpose. On 23/04/2014 2:59 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: It is one of the knockoffs but quite stout.

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

Actually we prefer Mount Plastic. Lunch next week? Pick a day, I'll bring along the compressor. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 23, 2014 2:00 PM, "Rich Thomas" wrote: > > Max lives in Mt. UnPleasant, SC. he has my spring compressor, which we were going to buy together, or he was going to buy

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

I'm moving into the house next to you... I'm in the D.C. area for a couple more days, don't know when I'll be back up. Window of opportunity is closing... Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 23, 2014 1:32 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel" wrote: > > Yeah, a very tempting offer. I would first need to confi

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 12:16:14 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > Best answer yet - thanks, Jim. Do you think incorrect springs play a > role too? Looking at his answer, > > Valve has a base (resting) pressure setting. If that was broken, > > _and_ you had too-strong springs the car might sit at

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

It is one of the knockoffs but quite stout. I bought it from a guy around here who had used it to put lower springs on a 560SEC. I used it on the SD when i did the front suspension last summer. The only problem with it is that when it bottoms out the threads did not engage the bottom so I en

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

You are just making this way too easy for Andrew. Did you folks buy the fancy, expensive, MB endorsed tool? On 23/04/2014 2:29 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Max has mine/[ours] --R On 4/23/14 3:21 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: BUT . . . you are the one who wants one. And, they don't seem to know wh

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

On 4/23/14 2:31 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: el merDE del gato = Sh*t of the cat? On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: Max lives in Mt. UnPleasant, SC. he has my spring compressor, which we were going to buy together, or he was going to

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

Max has mine/[ours] --R On 4/23/14 3:21 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: BUT . . . you are the one who wants one. And, they don't seem to know where it is right now. On 23/04/2014 1:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: But TWO list memebrs already own spring compressors. For me to purchase one would

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

BUT . . . you are the one who wants one. And, they don't seem to know where it is right now. On 23/04/2014 1:52 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: But TWO list memebrs already own spring compressors. For me to purchase one would be duplicative, or triplicative if you prefer. On Wed, Apr 23, 201

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

Chuckietown, SC. Wilt - Original Message - From: "Andrew Strasfogel" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] sls troubles Yeah, a very tempting offer. I would first need to confirm that the springs are dif

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

But TWO list memebrs already own spring compressors. For me to purchase one would be duplicative, or triplicative if you prefer. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: > On 22/04/2014 8:25 PM, Craig wrote: > >> On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:10:58 -0700 Jim Cathey >> wrote: >> >> I pe

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

On 22/04/2014 8:25 PM, Craig wrote: On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:10:58 -0700 Jim Cathey wrote: I personally removed the rear springs on a 123 in order to check the pads, during a diffy transplant. It was not hard, nor scary. Front's a different story! WHAT JIM SAID!! In fact, you have to

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

el mer del gato = Ocean of the cat? On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > Max lives in Mt. UnPleasant, SC. he has my spring compressor, which we > were going to buy together, or he was going to buy from me, but I just paid > for it and am

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

Max lives in Mt. UnPleasant, SC. he has my spring compressor, which we were going to buy together, or he was going to buy from me, but I just paid for it and am keeping it whenever it finds its way back home. If you use it, you can pay some rent, preferably beer but no elmerdedelgato pepper s

[MBZ] sls troubles

Folks ok today is the day! We're going jack my 82 300TD way up and change the accumulators and the fluid mine has the crappy ride and sinks when parked a while no apparent leaks in the system i'll be interested to see what changes that brings As for the SLS control valve, those have a grea

[MBZ] sls troubles

Folks ok today is the day! We're going jack my 82 300TD way up and change the accumulators and the fluid mine has the crappy ride and sinks when parked a while no apparent leaks in the system i'll be interested to see what changes that brings As for the SLS control valve, those have a grea

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

Yeah, a very tempting offer. I would first need to confirm that the springs are different from my other wagon, then acquire a floor jack + jack stands. Hope to have the springs questions sorted out this week so next week I could entertain doing something about it. Meade - do you live in the DC a

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

Already made the offer, no response.. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 23, 2014 12:23 PM, "Mitch Haley" wrote: > > Meade Dillon wrote: > >> First step is to ensure the correct springs are installed, I think the >> system needs to be bled at the strut connections, the pump pressure is now >> susp

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

Meade Dillon wrote: First step is to ensure the correct springs are installed, I think the system needs to be bled at the strut connections, the pump pressure is now suspect in my mind, and finally the valve can be adjusted and proper operation validated. Sounds like a plan. Are you volunteeri

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

If the springs are too strong / too tall, and the pump cannot provide more than base pressure (cannot lift the rear when loaded), then the springs are carrying more weight than designed. Therefore the system is not balanced, with a bias toward the springs carrying the weight. Andrew's load test m

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

Best answer yet - thanks, Jim. Do you think incorrect springs play a role too? On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: > No, the tech adjusted the valve to lower the car down to 14.5" and then we >> did the test, with the engine running. It NEVER budged from its sunken >> state

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

No, the tech adjusted the valve to lower the car down to 14.5" and then we did the test, with the engine running. It NEVER budged from its sunken state until the two beefy techs got off of the tailgate. Doesn't sound like it's able to make pressure. Leaking valve internals? The system really

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

Meade Dillon wrote: Sounds like your pump is not supplying sufficient pressure. Huh? It was pumped up, too highly pumped up. (with help from too strong springs, we assume) Techs forced it down by adjusting the control valve until the fender lip was 14ish inches above the hub center. Then and

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

How would that impact the bounciness? On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:41 AM, Meade Dillon wrote: > Sounds like your pump is not supplying sufficient pressure. > > Max Dillon, > Charleston SC > On Apr 23, 2014 10:56 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel" > wrote: > > > No, the tech adjusted the valve to lower the

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

Sounds like your pump is not supplying sufficient pressure. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 23, 2014 10:56 AM, "Andrew Strasfogel" wrote: > No, the tech adjusted the valve to lower the car down to 14.5" and then we > did the test, with the engine running. It NEVER budged from its sunken > stat

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

No, the tech adjusted the valve to lower the car down to 14.5" and then we did the test, with the engine running. It NEVER budged from its sunken state until the two beefy techs got off of the tailgate. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: > Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > >> So wit

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

Andrew Strasfogel wrote: So with my symptoms (bouncy rear, inability to raise rear of the car under load), how likely is it that my valve is defective? It wasn't unable to raise under load until they adjusted the valve, right? I suspect your valve is now out of adjustment. Might have also been

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

So with my symptoms (bouncy rear, inability to raise rear of the car under load), how likely is it that my valve is defective? On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: > That's good to know. Is it easy to r/r the sls valve as well? >> > > I doubt it. Flare nuts, etc. Corrosion. Al

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

That's good to know. Is it easy to r/r the sls valve as well? I doubt it. Flare nuts, etc. Corrosion. Aluminum body... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery optio

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

It's not bad, but you better have a good set of flare nut wrenches to do it. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Apr 22, 2014, at 10:14 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: > > Andrew Strasfogel wrote: >> That's good to know. Is it easy to r/r the sls valve as well? > > Easy-peasy on my W201, a real bear to get at

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

Yes. Dead easy. Just be careful about corrosion: aluminium and salt are a bad combo, so you may find that you have stripped threads, esp the bleed valve. Might want to give everything a good soaking with Liquid Wrench in case it helps. Also, under NO CIRCUMSTANCES should you remove the control

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

Andrew Strasfogel wrote: That's good to know. Is it easy to r/r the sls valve as well? Easy-peasy on my W201, a real bear to get at on my S210. Don't know about your S123. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 22:02:25 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > That's good to know. Is it easy to r/r the sls valve as well? Now that I cannot say; I've only worked on Sedans. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.co

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

That's good to know. Is it easy to r/r the sls valve as well? On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Craig wrote: > On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:10:58 -0700 Jim Cathey > wrote: > > > I personally removed the rear springs on a 123 in order > > to check the pads, during a diffy transplant. It was not > >

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 18:10:58 -0700 Jim Cathey wrote: > I personally removed the rear springs on a 123 in order > to check the pads, during a diffy transplant. It was not > hard, nor scary. > > Front's a different story! WHAT JIM SAID!! In fact, you have to restrict the movement of the

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

I personally removed the rear springs on a 123 in order to check the pads, during a diffy transplant. It was not hard, nor scary. Front's a different story! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Un

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles in spring

Hendrik and Fay wrote: Could not find English version > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aucrdPTfo4 Is this it? http://filenuke.com/e71cqif4l2we ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles in spring

Service manual assumes access to special tool plus they are not going to suggest that the springs can be removed without it. Lawyers would have a field day if things went wrong. With care the rear springs can be removed without compression, using a trolley jack. In one episode of wheeler dealer,

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

No spring compressor is required, even though the book call for one. Did this on my '85 wagon when I rebuilt the rear suspension. Loosen strut connection at control arm. Bleed off pressure in SLS system. Lift the back of the car until all pressure is off the springs, pull them out. Need to be

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

Service manual says otherwise. -- Tuesday, 22 April 2014, 01:03PM -0400 from Mitch Haley : Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > I need a lift and a spring compressor, plus new springs and a replacement > valve.  Need to order the parts first... I don't think you need a compressor in the back, even with se

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

First I need to confirm diameter of springs in the other wagon. -- Tuesday, 22 April 2014, 01:03PM -0400 from Mitch Haley : Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > I need a lift and a spring compressor, plus new springs and a replacement > valve.  Need to order the parts first... I don't think you need a com

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

Why not? -- Tuesday, 22 April 2014, 00:34PM -0400 from Rich Thomas : Spring compressor not needed for rears, only fronts. You need a jack and some jack stands.  Harbor Freight is your friend. Fatty is your springie thingie friend. --R On 4/22/14 12:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > I need a lift

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I need a lift and a spring compressor, plus new springs and a replacement valve. Need to order the parts first... I don't think you need a compressor in the back, even with sedan springs. Was Max possibly offering to help you yank the springs out of the good car and s

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

Spring compressor not needed for rears, only fronts. You need a jack and some jack stands. Harbor Freight is your friend. Fatty is your springie thingie friend. --R On 4/22/14 12:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: I need a lift and a spring compressor, plus new springs and a replacement valve.

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

I need a lift and a spring compressor, plus new springs and a replacement valve. Need to order the parts first... On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:12 AM, Meade Dillon wrote: > You want me to swing by, help turn some wrenches? No spring compressor > required. > > Wednesday night, be there about 7 or

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

You want me to swing by, help turn some wrenches? No spring compressor required. Wednesday night, be there about 7 or 8? Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 21, 2014 11:00 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel" wrote: > Are flying up to DC. for the weekend with your spring compressor by any > chance? > > > On M

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

Are flying up to DC. for the weekend with your spring compressor by any chance? On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:49 PM, Meade Dillon wrote: > Great idea! If Andrew owns a floor jack and a couple sets of axle stands > (Four total), he can take the springs from the good car and install in bad > car to

Re: [MBZ] sls spring troubles

I don't know what Andrew owns, apart from a couple of S123's. What's option B, Andrew buys new springs for his car, which may be getting pricey due to being exclusive to the S123 (and I think even in the S123 there where several different springs available). Pays to get em put in and finds that

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

Great idea! If Andrew owns a floor jack and a couple sets of axle stands (Four total), he can take the springs from the good car and install in bad car to see if the problem is solved. Easy-peasy to swap them, loosen the strut mounts at the bottom, jack up the rear at the differential and the spr

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

No. The 83 works fine. I am debating the cost of swapping springs vs. swapping the rear valve with a used one. On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Hendrik and Fay wrote: > So can't you swap springs from the 83 to 85? > The SLS relies on both the springs and struts to share the load, so > essenti

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

So can't you swap springs from the 83 to 85? The SLS relies on both the springs and struts to share the load, so essentially if your spring is weak more load is carried on the struts. Hendrik who knows very little about SLS systems On 21/04/14 07:57, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: So I loaded an 80

[MBZ] sls troubles black

feel the difference mixed in it could be spheres and hoses deteriorating xx rick Rick Hawkins From: Jim Cathey Date: April 20, 2014 3:13:27 PM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List i may also have oil int

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil

...chuckles... Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 20, 2014 9:46 PM, "arche...@embarqmail.com" wrote: > > Makes the eyes water? > Gerry > >> It's hydrous optic, like brake fluid. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil

Makes the eyes water? Gerry It's hydrous optic, like brake fluid. Old oil can appear to be black or very dark. Get a couple of liters of new stuff and a new filter. Find a long piece of tubing you can put bopper the return line once you have freed it from the cap. Put the other end in a larg

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil

: Sunday, April 20, 2014 6:25 PMTo: 'Mercedes Discussion List'Reply To: Mercedes Discussion ListSubject: Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil << hydrous optic>> Hygroscopic?‎ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives h

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil

<< hydrous optic>> Hygroscopic? -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 4:14 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil It's hydrous optic,

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil

That's *hydroscopic* Darned autocorrect. Sent from my iPad > On Apr 20, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: > > It's hydrous optic, like brake fluid. Old oil can appear to be black or very > dark. > > Get a couple of liters of new stuff and a new filter. Find a long piece of > tubing you c

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil

It's hydrous optic, like brake fluid. Old oil can appear to be black or very dark. Get a couple of liters of new stuff and a new filter. Find a long piece of tubing you can put bopper the return line once you have freed it from the cap. Put the other end in a large, clear container. Start the

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

Springs first, you have good evidence they are wrong springs... Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 20, 2014 6:27 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel" wrote: > So I loaded an 80 sack of Sakrete into the rear deck and did the bounce > test. Bouncy as usual. :( Then I checked the 83 wagon and it was way > hard

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

So I loaded an 80 sack of Sakrete into the rear deck and did the bounce test. Bouncy as usual. :( Then I checked the 83 wagon and it was way harder to push down in the rear - far stiffer - and there was no residual bouncing after I did my pushing down on the rear deck.. Presumably it has the c

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil

i may also have oil intrusion I don't see how, there's essentially no contact between the systems. I had ours apart a bunch. The only engine oil in the area is a little bit of splash at the drive end of the pump. And there's an oil seal there. Most of the pump is under high pressure. For it

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil

I think the pump rebuild kits aren't too expensive, but more expensive than a fluid change. After you replace the spheres, change the fluid and watch the color. If engine oil it's contaminating, would the fluid level change? Would the engine oil level change? Easiest way to change the fluid is

[MBZ] sls troubles black suspension oil

Folks I have the black oil i may have deteriorated spheres (probably do ... am about to replace) but i may also have oil intrusion i don't know that's why i was considering oil analysis of the hydraulic fluid thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://ww

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

OK, I SAY that no matter what the height of your springs you can adjust the rod to the control valve to put the valve lever to the neutral position if that's where you want it Yes, but that doesn't center the travel of the suspension so that it doesn't bounce off the upper end's stops. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

That I can try on my own - great idea. -- Saturday, 19 April 2014, 11:28PM -0400 from Mitch Haley : Rick Hawkins Java wrote: > OK, I SAY that no matter what the height of your springs you can adjust > the rod to the control valve to put the valve lever to the neutral > position if that's where yo

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

On Sat, 19 Apr 2014 23:28:54 -0400 Mitch Haley wrote: > More to the point of passing safety inspection, does it get better or > worse with ten bags of softener salt in the back? Now that would be a simple fix for the inspection. It could be simulated without buying the salt by having one or more

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles

Rick Hawkins Java wrote: OK, I SAY that no matter what the height of your springs you can adjust the rod to the control valve to put the valve lever to the neutral position if that's where you want it I'd still like to know what makes Andy's wagon go boing, boing, boing. Would having too hig

[MBZ] sls troubles

OK, I SAY that no matter what the height of your springs you can adjust the rod to the control valve to put the valve lever to the neutral position if that's where you want it does that make sense springs at rest, adjust rod thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins _

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles 300td 1982

Rick Hawkins Java wrote: So what kind of damage could be done to the pump? it's a pretty simple device pounding around of the pistons or something the lever is moved all the time when you drive around and hit bumps, no matter how heavy or light you use it, i would think lack of the

[MBZ] sls troubles 300td 1982

quot;Scott Ritchey" Date: April 18, 2014 2:50:27 PM EDT To: "'Mercedes Discussion List'" Subject: Re: [MBZ] sls troubles 1982 300td Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List If it rides "hard" (feels like the axle is welded to the frame) that is caused by one or both

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles 1982 300td

What Scott said. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Apr 18, 2014 2:49 PM, "Scott Ritchey" wrote: > > If it rides "hard" (feels like the axle is welded to the frame) that is > caused by one or both failed spheres. The bad news is that failed spheres > will damage the SLS valve if you drive it long wi

Re: [MBZ] sls troubles 1982 300td

If it rides "hard" (feels like the axle is welded to the frame) that is caused by one or both failed spheres. The bad news is that failed spheres will damage the SLS valve if you drive it long with bad spheres. > > Max > > I may very well have a problem with the valve too BUT the fact that > t

[MBZ] sls troubles 1982 300td

From: Meade Dillon Date: April 17, 2014 2:49:10 AM EDT To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300td suspension fluid Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List Hi Rick, Dragging rear at rest is probably the control valve, which is allowing the base pressure to bleed off. After you shut

[MBZ] SLS v. Google

http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/23/google-street-view-top-gear-test-track-dunsfold-aerodrome/ --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/m

Re: [MBZ] SLs

The front quarters on these look too much like mid '80's Mustang to entice me. I've always thought so, too. But once the _price_ also matches a mid 80's Mustang then they start to get a lot more interesting. The 107's appearance is hard to beat, though. -- Jim _

Re: [MBZ] SLs

Gerry wrote: > The white SL500 is beautiful. The front quarters on these look too much like mid '80's Mustang to entice me. Too much poser rich guy appearance than desireable. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/arc

Re: [MBZ] SLs

The white SL500 is beautiful. If it had a diesel engine, I'd buy it in a minute. Also, there is a 2006 Jaguar-X for $8K sitting next to the SL500 "make an offer" with a probable bad engine that Dan called about in Crystal River, Fl. I wonder if a 617 diesel engine would fit under its hood?

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