Re: [MBZ] Volvo SW to the moon and (nearly) back

It has invaluable kashay, or je ne sais quoi. On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 2:16 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Sold for $6K. The world’s gone mad. > > AZBob > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 13, 2023, at 10:34 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com>

Re: [MBZ] Volvo SW to the moon and (nearly) back

Sold for $6K. The world’s gone mad. AZBob Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 13, 2023, at 10:34 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes > wrote: > > At first I thought if I was the owner I would have wanted to get it to > 500,000 just because it us such a milestone. But, then I read the following >

Re: [MBZ] Volvo SW to the moon and (nearly) back

At first I thought if I was the owner I would have wanted to get it to 500,000 just because it us such a milestone. But, then I read the following “The seller reports piston slap when the engine is cold, and the exhaust system does not have a catalytic converter.” Now I really don’t

[MBZ] Volvo SW to the moon and (nearly) back

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Re: [MBZ] Volvo PV544 on BAT

That would be a great surprise birthday present to a spouse if one were looking for a quick divorce. On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:40 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > This is a MUCH cooler Volvo: > > >

Re: [MBZ] Volvo PV544 on BAT

This is a MUCH cooler Volvo: https://jalopnik.com/some-hero-in-london-street-parks-their-volvo-sugga-1842546618 -D > On Mar 30, 2020, at 2:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Nw at $8251 as the auction enters the final minutes. > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:56 PM Kevin

Re: [MBZ] Volvo PV544 on BAT

Nw at $8251 as the auction enters the final minutes. On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 12:56 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I sure did enjoy the 1958 Volvo PV444 that we had in the 1990’s. It was a > mostly original driver quality car, but still a head turner. Someone >

Re: [MBZ] Volvo PV544 on BAT

I sure did enjoy the 1958 Volvo PV444 that we had in the 1990’s. It was a mostly original driver quality car, but still a head turner. Someone re-powered it with a B18 engine which was more powerful than the original B16. During the move from California to Oregon, the moving company damaged it,

Re: [MBZ] Volvo PV544 on BAT

No one can accuse you of being overly spendthrift. On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 4:54 PM G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > I owned one of those, decades ago... bought it for $8.00. The starter had > burned out and it had been parked for 2 years... I primed the fuel system > with fresh fuel and a little

Re: [MBZ] Volvo PV544 on BAT

I owned one of those, decades ago... bought it for $8.00. The starter had burned out and it had been parked for 2 years... I primed the fuel system with fresh fuel and a little spray death start fluid, and got a rope pull start from another car.. drove it home.. Fixed the starter, which cost more

Re: [MBZ] Volvo PV544 on BAT

A local fellow put Goodyear Blue Streak racing tires on one of those back in the early '70's, and managed to roll it in a flat parking lot gymkhana event. On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 11:06 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I drove one of these in Mpls.-St. Paul

[MBZ] Volvo PV544 on BAT

I drove one of these in Mpls.-St. Paul while in grad school. To assure it would start every morning I would 1) bring the battery inside to my basement flat, and 2) insert a dipstick heater to keep the oil warm. Eventually my gloves disintegrated from the cumulative exposure to battery acid.

Re: [MBZ] Volvo phasing out gas and diesel cars soon

Volvo are building a big new facility up the road to make SUVs and other vehicles. I guess they will start cranking out electrified Volvos --FT On 7/6/17 3:28 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: Volvo Car Corp. has vowed to abandon the traditional gas-powered internal combustion engine...

Re: [MBZ] Volvo phasing out gas and diesel cars soon

> Volvo Car Corp. has vowed to abandon the traditional gas-powered > internal combustion engine... > ... it will only offer new hybrid or battery electric vehicles > starting in 2019. Err, hybrids use internal combustion engines. > ... completely phase out the gas-powered engine that has >

Re: [MBZ] Volvo phasing out gas and diesel cars soon

Super clickbait... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: ELECTRIC VEHICLESVolvo bidding end to gas-powered engines Published: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 [image: Volvo automobile on assembly line.

[MBZ] Volvo phasing out gas and diesel cars soon

ELECTRIC VEHICLESVolvo bidding end to gas-powered engines Published: Wednesday, July 5, 2017 [image: Volvo automobile on assembly line. Photo: Volvo.] Volvo has vowed to phase out the internal combustion engine by 2019. Volvo Volvo Car Corp. has vowed to abandon the traditional gas-powered

Re: [MBZ] volvo 850 wagon

Rick Hawkins Java wrote: i would think there should be some market for it a car with no reverse is better than no car at all But what year was it, a 1994? the market is almost surely three digits. A while back, Brianna and I bought (with my money) a $600 Taurus that goes from 2nd to

[MBZ] volvo 805 turbo wagon

This is a little off topic. There was a 1994 white volvo 850 turbo parked by the entrance to our daughter's apartment. It looked a bit abandoned and irritated her because she had to make her turn wide. I told her to find the owner, she did and he agreed to sell it to me for $100 (and had

Re: [MBZ] volvo 805 turbo wagon

Put down that crack pipe and step away from the computer --R On 6/10/14 2:11 AM, Rick Hawkins Java wrote: This is a little off topic. There was a 1994 white volvo 850 turbo parked by the entrance to our daughter's apartment. It looked a bit abandoned and irritated her because she had to

Re: [MBZ] volvo 805 turbo wagon

What an utterly unlovable vehicle. No curb appeal whatsoever! On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Put down that crack pipe and step away from the computer --R On 6/10/14 2:11 AM, Rick Hawkins Java wrote: This is a little off

[MBZ] volvo 850 wagon

I don't think the car has that much charm, but it IS smooth and seems fairly powerful to me used to 123 diesels. It does not look particularly easy to repair i would think there should be some market for it a car with no reverse is better than no car at all xx r On Jun 10, 2014, at

Re: [MBZ] volvo 805 turbo wagon

Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] volvo 805 turbo wagon Message-ID: 539708eb.5080...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Put down that crack pipe and step away from the computer

Re: [MBZ] volvo 805 turbo wagon

Quite drivable though. My aunt has a similar car in sedan form, its very pleasant to drive. -Curt Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 12:12:55 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] volvo 805 turbo wagon Message-ID

Re: [MBZ] Volvo diesel?

happens, if the oil and water stay on their respective sides like they're supposed to and I can get the valve tick to go away we might be okay... -Curt Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 10:10:08 -0700 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volvo diesel? Message-ID

Re: [MBZ] Volvo diesel?

:08 -0700 From: Craig diese...@pisquared.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volvo diesel? Message-ID: 20121224101008.e59b0f49955b934564ea7...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 08:37:33 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote

Re: [MBZ] Volvo diesel?

) so it'd be worth checking out. -Curt Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 11:34:50 -0600 From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volvo diesel? Message-ID: 53199de7-532c-4577-af87-34f32a754...@earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain

Re: [MBZ] Volvo diesel?

On Tue, 25 Dec 2012 12:56:35 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: That said based on today's results (see my last message) it looks as though this car might get a new lease on life. I'm going to change the oil and drive it for a few days to see what happens, if the oil and

[MBZ] Volvo diesel?

I know somebody on here has some experience with Volvo diesels... With my 240D down for the count one of my options is to buy a new car. I seem to do reasonably well with $1500 cars if I plan to keep them in the 30-40,000 mile range. I found:

Re: [MBZ] Volvo diesel?

I don't have any direct experience, but I did a lot of research on them before I bought my first MB, a 1979 300TD Swedish Bricks http://www.swedishbricks.net/ is a really good forum for Volvo owners if you're looking to get the skinny on these cars. The only significant issues I recall

Re: [MBZ] Volvo diesel?

On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I know somebody on here has some experience with Volvo diesels... Not diesel, but I enjoyed my '92 940 - it was comfortable and easy to repair. Interior/exterior was pretty good, and mine had been rolled by the PO!

Re: [MBZ] Volvo diesel?

On Mon, 24 Dec 2012 08:37:33 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: With my 240D down for the count one of my options is to buy a new car. So, what's wrong with your 240D that cannot be fixed? If you put the amount of money into it that it will take to buy a new car, will it be

Re: [MBZ] Volvo diesel?

A 740TD turbo is a nice car -- 31 mpg on the highway 29 in town, wonderful to drive, dead reliable (although mine has been out of the count for a while, fuel problems). Weak points are the injection pump (Bosch distributor single piston type) that does NOT like ultra-low sulfur fuel (use

Re: [MBZ] Volvo diesel?

You would have never been treated badly by jabba? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 24, 2012, at 10:53 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I don't have any direct experience, but I did a lot of research on them before I bought my first MB, a 1979 300TD Swedish Bricks

Re: [MBZ] Volvo diesel?

Its a vw, so beware the timing belt. If it was changed on time, it is about due for another. Can the PO show you a receipt for the last timing belt? Otherwise, change it soon. Failure means trashed valves and possibly head. Also has the vw single plunger IP, nowhere near as reliable as

Re: [MBZ] Volvo diesel?

- Original Message - From: Tim C bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volvo diesel? On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I know somebody on here has some

Re: [MBZ] Volvo diesel?

bb...@crone.us To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volvo diesel? On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I know somebody on here has some experience with Volvo diesels

Re: [MBZ] Volvo? now fast tractors

in the Buick and he was hit by a train, to give you an idea of the time period. -Curt Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 17:01:06 -0500 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volvo? now fast tractors Message-ID: 50a80922.90

Re: [MBZ] Volvo? now fast tractors

No worse than riding a buggy on 2 lane rural roads posted at 55mph. On Saturday, November 17, 2012, Rich Thomas wrote: Some of the Amish have some sort of dispensation about tractors, so they put road gears in them and can go quite fast. They build these little wagon buggy things they can

Re: [MBZ] Volvo? now fast tractors

Curt Raymond wrote: ... so they took a truck rear end and made it the front axle for a wagon. They powered that axle with the PTO of the tractor. Supposedly this arrangement could make about 20mph which I imagine to be as fast as anybody would dare. Some rough calculations - with guesses.

Re: [MBZ] Volvo? now fast tractors

On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:03:17 -0600 Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: PTO RPM is typically 540, as I recall, so 900 RPM is a bit fast. There are two standard PTO speeds now, 540 RPM and 1000 RPM. See

Re: [MBZ] Volvo? now fast tractors

Yep. The tractor in question, if it had a pto, would have been 540 rpm@ 80% or so of engine power. 1080 RPM has more splines, and didn't come out until 1960s or so on high HP (for the time) tractors. ~90+ HP would have been high HP for the time. 966 and up Internationals had 1000 RPM

Re: [MBZ] Volvo? now fast tractors

Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:03:17 -0600 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volvo? now fast tractors Message-ID: 20121120130317.42fbd0b2.fmi...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Curt Raymond wrote: ... so

Re: [MBZ] Volvo? now fast tractors

126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volvo? now fast tractors Message-ID: a06240827ccd1c61703d3@[192.168.1.70] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Yep. The tractor in question, if it had a pto, would have been 540 rpm@ 80

Re: [MBZ] Volvo? now fast tractors

it was sent off for scrap but never saw it in action. -Curt Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:03:17 -0600 From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volvo? now fast tractors Message-ID: 20121120130317.42fbd0b2.fmi...@gmail.com Content-Type: text

Re: [MBZ] Volvo? now fast tractors

Craig wrote: On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:03:17 -0600 Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: PTO RPM is typically 540, as I recall, so 900 RPM is a bit fast. There are two standard PTO speeds now, 540 RPM and 1000 RPM. Yeah, I heard that. But this was prior to 1933. So what was PTO speed then?

Re: [MBZ] Volvo? now fast tractors

Curt Raymond wrote: Hmm, I'd doubt 37 tires. Maybe it was the rear axle of the wagon and there was a transmission involved... Actually now that I think of it Dad might have mentioned something about that. He claims to have seen the rig years later before it was sent off for scrap but never

Re: [MBZ] Volvo? now fast tractors

Craig wrote: On Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:03:17 -0600 Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: PTO RPM is typically 540, as I recall, so 900 RPM is a bit fast. There are two standard PTO speeds now, 540 RPM and 1000 RPM. Yeah, I heard that. But this was prior to 1933. So what was PTO speed then?

Re: [MBZ] Volvo? now fast tractors

mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volvo? now fast tractors Message-ID: 20121120191547.54594f5a.fmi...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Curt Raymond wrote: Hmm, I'd doubt 37 tires. Maybe it was the rear axle of the wagon and there was a transmission involved... Actually now

Re: [MBZ] Volvo?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAdIlgaAwMcfeature=related That is hilarious, especially in the field. I showed it to a friend and he told me about a guy he baled hay with that put a nash engine in a Cockshutt. (55 to 65 era) Cockshutts were known for high road speeds. With a big

Re: [MBZ] Volvo?

My neighbor put a hot running Chevy 250 inline 6 in an old Oliver 66. He got clocked @ 60mph skidding logs down a state highway. Cop didn't give him a ticket because he was afraid of getting laughed out of the station house for writing a farm tractor a ticket for speeding on a 55mph road. Mike

Re: [MBZ] Volvo? now fast tractors

Some of the Amish have some sort of dispensation about tractors, so they put road gears in them and can go quite fast. They build these little wagon buggy things they can all crowd into, and go to Walmart and Tractor Supply. I see them doing this in KY, it is funny as hell except it looks

[MBZ] Volvo?

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[MBZ] Volvo on Wilton Wheels

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Re: [MBZ] Volvo on Wilton Wheels

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Those P1800s were beautiful cars, especially for a 1960s product of Sweden. http://blog.autoworld.com.my/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/vox_volvo_p1800_1.jpg I think that look suits a VW Type III better:

Re: [MBZ] Volvo on Wilton Wheels

Really nice, 'cept the wheels. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 4:13 PM Subject: [MBZ] Volvo on Wilton Wheels Those P1800s were beautiful cars, especially for a 1960s

Re: [MBZ] Volvo on Wilton Wheels

WILTON wrote: Really nice, 'cept the wheels. This got my attention: Powering the beast is a 4.4-liter V8 borrowed from a Volvo XC90 SUV that’s been force-fed by a turbocharger and feeds its 600 horses through a six-speed manual transmission to the rear wheels.

Re: [MBZ] Volvo on Wilton Wheels

Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 4:13 PM Subject: [MBZ] Volvo on Wilton Wheels Those P1800s were beautiful cars, especially for a 1960s product of Sweden. http://blog.autoworld.com.my/wp-content/uploads/2009/05

Re: [MBZ] Volvo on Wilton Wheels

Yeah, not bad, either. 'Caught a glimpse of one on Pickers last night or night before. Wilton - Original Message - From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volvo on Wilton Wheels

Re: [MBZ] Volvo on Wilton Wheels

I've always thought that car was a bad joke by VW - the ugliest car they ever made. Guess I was wrong - someone likes it! On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 5:28 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: This is more your style me thinks. I'd sure like to have one like this!

Re: [MBZ] Volvo on Wilton Wheels

Kind of reminds me a lot of a BMW 3.0 cs, in exterior styling anyway. Ed 300E On 26 January 2011 20:03, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: I've always thought that car was a bad joke by VW - the ugliest car they ever made. Guess I was wrong - someone likes it! On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 5:28 PM, E

[MBZ] Volvo safety

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Re: [MBZ] Volvo

A 240 should never ping on (R+M)/2=87 octane fuel. I'd first check the timing, and air/fuel mixture (via O2 sensor). If those are correct, then I'd do a seafoam treatment (search on turbobricks.com for instructions) and install a new set of factory temp NGK copper spark plugs. If you're

[MBZ] Volvo

I also get pinging on my 91 volvo 240 even on slight uphill pulls. If I agree that it should not ping, what specific steps do I take to find out and then remedy the problem? Jerry 82 240D (Now sold)I ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official

Re: [MBZ] Volvo

@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Volvo I also get pinging on my 91 volvo 240 even on slight uphill pulls. If I agree that it should not ping, what specific steps do I take to find out and then remedy the problem? Jerry 82 240D (Now sold)I ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Volvo

PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jerry Herrman Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 3:10 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Volvo I also get pinging on my 91 volvo 240 even on slight uphill pulls. If I agree that it should not ping, what specific steps do I take to find

Re: [MBZ] Volvo- Steering Columns

I would think it would cost more to build a safer car. I dont see how it could be the same. Hendrik Fay wrote: So Mercedes cars cost the same to build/develop as a Chinese car? So why do they charge so much money for them? Guess it is all that extra money they have to pay the workers, I

Re: [MBZ] Volvo- Steering Columns

- Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] And don't forget, the Chinese car is nothing like a Benz, and they cheat terribly on both materials and exchange rate. One of the same quality would be much more expensive, just like high quality Chinese or Japanese

Re: [MBZ] Volvo- Steering Columns

archer wrote: Speaking of Chinese machine tools, I've been getting regular flyers from Smithy machine tools in Ann Arbor, Michigan. Their very nice looking lathes, which also have a vertical mill, must be made in China; considering that their prices range from $1500 to only $3500 for

Re: [MBZ] Volvo- Steering Columns

Obviously it would cost more to build a current C class than a Hyundai. Both in development cost and cost of components. You can't just look at the actual cost of putting the machine together on an assembly line. The C class is full of near new technology while the Hyundai is a copy of

Re: [MBZ] Volvo

] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 10:52 PM Subject: [MBZ] Volvo Sold my 82 240D. Pressure from wife. No airbag. Miss that diesel. Anyway, does anyone know if there is a list similar to this for owners of older Volvos? MINE PINGS, AND i HATE TO PAY EVEN HIGHER PRICES

Re: [MBZ] Volvo

So, now you sell the volvo, and buy a '90's 300D 2.5. It has an airbag, a Diesel engine, and burns less fuel. Sold my 82 240D. Pressure from wife. No airbag. Miss that diesel. Anyway, does anyone know if there is a list similar to this for owners of older Volvos? MINE PINGS, AND i HATE TO

Re: [MBZ] Volvo

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://groups.yahoo.com/group/HOT_240_VOLVOS/ Rob '85 MB 300D '86 Volvo 245 '80 BMW R100RT Costa Mesa, CA -- Message: 8 Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 20:52:33 -0800 From: Jerry Herrman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Volvo To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content

Re: [MBZ] Volvo

Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So you got rid of the car because it didnt have an airbag? MB's have been plenty of safe long before there were airbags. I think they are overrated anyway. Agreed, if you wear a seat belt the air bags are not likely to do a lot for you, and

Re: [MBZ] Volvo

PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 12:16 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volvo Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My auntie got front-ended a few months back by some girl who crossed the centerline, the air bag went off, burned her face

Re: [MBZ] Volvo

My auntie got front-ended a few months back by some girl who crossed the centerline, the air bag went off, burned her face and chest something fierce, and did a number on her face too as it was all bruised, puffy, black, ugly. She had her belt on, that did a number on her where it held her,

Re: [MBZ] Volvo

Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My auntie got front-ended a few months back by some girl who crossed the centerline, the air bag went off, burned her face and chest something fierce, and did a number on her face too as it was all bruised, puffy, black, ugly. If that was a first

Re: [MBZ] Volvo

On Nov 20, 2007 10:32 AM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hit hard enough and the steering wheel rim would fold back, puncturing the chest with the center column. Aren't collapsible columns (in post-1968[?] cars) supposed to prevent such things? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al.

Re: [MBZ] Volvo

Depending on the model and year, you may have a bad knock sensor. The 90 and later ones have a knock sensor that retards the timing to eliminate the knock, but you really are better off with premium, you get much better power and less knock. Also check for a bad O2 sensor and vacuum leaks, as

Re: [MBZ] Volvo

Correct. I told her she ought to go buy a lottery ticket too. --R Tom Hargrave wrote: Considering the bruises, your aunt's life was probably saved by the airbag. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] Volvo

Ah, the good old days. Makes you wonder why people insist on driving pickup trucks, which until a few years ago were identical to what they were in 1950 with the exception of a collapsable steering column. I remember the days when a front collision usually resulted in the death of the driver

Re: [MBZ] Volvo

On Nov 20, 2007 2:57 PM, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, the good old days. Makes you wonder why people insist on driving pickup trucks, which until a few years ago were identical to what they were in 1950 with the exception of a collapsable steering column. I remember the days

Re: [MBZ] Volvo- Steering Columns

it is a classic. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 4:57 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volvo Ah, the good old days. Makes you wonder why people insist on driving pickup

Re: [MBZ] Volvo- Steering Columns

- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R A Bennell Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 5:13 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volvo- Steering Columns My 68 Chevy has a steering shaft close to 4 feet long and about 3/4 of an inch in diameter. I wouldn't really

Re: [MBZ] Volvo

-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 5:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volvo On Nov 20, 2007 2:57 PM, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, the good old days

Re: [MBZ] Volvo

That's the point, airbags where developed for people who don't wear seatbelts. Do racing cars have airbags? Look at the Princess Diana crash, the only person who survived was the one wearing a seat belt and the driver with a air bag did not. Airbags are a false safety thing and a seatbelt with

Re: [MBZ] Volvo

have they improved air bags or is my government still hell bent on trying to kill little people. (hey, who can blame them?) On Nov 20, 2007 1:16 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My auntie got front-ended a few months back by some girl who

Re: [MBZ] Volvo

On Nov 20, 2007 3:37 PM, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, inside the cab was the safest place for the tank because it's in the center of the vehicle where it is less likely to get ruptured. I see your point, but it seems to me the advantage of the tank being in the center of the

Re: [MBZ] Volvo

an improvement over just seat belts, but not much of one. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Fay Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 5:42 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ

Re: [MBZ] Volvo seatbelts

PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Fay Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 5:42 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volvo That's the point, airbags where developed for people who don't wear seatbelts. Do racing cars have airbags? Look at the Princess Diana

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Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Air bags were not developed for people who do not wear seatbelts, I remember a magazine ad (I think it was Olds, or some GM marque) where they said their new air bag system eliminated the need to wear inconvenient and uncomfortable seat belts, in fact if

Re: [MBZ] Volvo

Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: have they improved air bags or is my government still hell bent on trying to kill little people. (hey, who can blame them?) I believe current technology airbags deploy with a force proportional to the impact, or they may assume that the driver is belted

Re: [MBZ] Volvo seatbelts

Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyway if the government was serious about our safety they would mandate that every new vehicle be fitted with sensors that detect when a person is sitting on a seat and not wearing a seat belt and the car can't go until the idiot has managed to figure

Re: [MBZ] Volvo seatbelts

On Nov 20, 2007 4:42 PM, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyway if the government was serious about our safety they would mandate that every new vehicle be fitted with sensors that detect when a person is sitting on a seat and not wearing a seat

Re: [MBZ] Volvo seatbelts

They did this, and I have had a couple of cars with this interlock. Granted, in 1974, the interlock was easily bypassed, either way, it was abandoned quickly. Nowadays, manufacturers just put a chime that gets really obnoxious if you go faster than 15 mph without your seatbelt attached. On

Re: [MBZ] Volvo seatbelts

... Stupid auto features are a bane... -Curt Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:50:41 +1030 From: Hendrik Fay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volvo seatbelts To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Yet

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Another GM special -- dual fuel container and rear bumper mount. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Volvo- Steering Columns

Mercedes patented the crumple zones in the late 40's, was in production in 1953 with the Ponton. Crushable steering columns were installed in the early 60's -- check out any Finny. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor:

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Mercedes started working on airbags in the early 60s, too (tested in the W108s). Detail work kept them from being installed in cars for quite a while -- something about killing the passengers with the air bags and blowing the windows out Airbags are great. Only good for one shot, though,

Re: [MBZ] Volvo

The Benz tank is in the trunk, not the passenger compartment. There is a solid steel sheet between tank and seat, unlike the old PU where it was bare and the springs hit it. There is also quite a bit of crush room before you get to it, not a single thin sheet of low grade steel. Peter

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