Re: [MBZ] Master cylinder

2021-07-17 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
If you have a NAPA nearby I would get one there. You can look at it before you walk out, and if there are problems with it you will have someone local to deal with and a hassle-free return/exchange. Autozone, Pep Boys, and others also warranty what they sell but they are a lower tier in terms

Re: [MBZ] Master cylinder

2021-07-17 Thread greg via Mercedes
FWIW I bought a Dorman manifold crossover for my '95 Crown Vic a while back. It was good quality. Things change over time. Greg > The brake master cylinder seems to be failing on my old toada sienna > family > truckster. This vehicle is too old to justify the price of an OE one, so > I’m

Re: [MBZ] Master cylinder

2021-07-17 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Especially with no brakes --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jul 17, 2021, at 8:17 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > Sienna is one of the least safe vehicles on the road if I recall correctly. > Fix it and get rid of it! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 17, 2021, at 7:57 AM, ned

Re: [MBZ] Master cylinder

2021-07-17 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Sienna is one of the least safe vehicles on the road if I recall correctly. Fix it and get rid of it! Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 17, 2021, at 7:57 AM, ned kleinhenz via Mercedes > wrote: > > The brake master cylinder seems to be failing on my old toada sienna family > truckster. This

[MBZ] Master cylinder

2021-07-17 Thread ned kleinhenz via Mercedes
The brake master cylinder seems to be failing on my old toada sienna family truckster. This vehicle is too old to justify the price of an OE one, so I’m considering a rebuilt or aftermarket cylinder. Most parts places and web sites seem to carry the same brands of aftermarket cylinders like -

[MBZ] Master Cylinder failure

2021-01-05 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
When the MC gave up on my 115 I was sitting at a red light and the car crept forward. I thought I was having a senior moment or something and had just not held my foot on the brake pedal hard enough. Then the light turned and off I went. About a block later, I stepped on the brake pedal and it

Re: [MBZ] Master cylinder

2021-01-05 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
A. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 5, 2021, at 8:13 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I didn’t have one for that car. All the ones I had were for later gas cars. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 5, 2021, at 9:00 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Speaking

Re: [MBZ] Master cylinder

2021-01-05 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I didn’t have one for that car. All the ones I had were for later gas cars. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 5, 2021, at 9:00 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > Speaking of washer tanks, I thought you were going to send me one for my > W124? > > > Bob R > > Sent from my iPhone > >>

Re: [MBZ] Master cylinder

2021-01-05 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Speaking of washer tanks, I thought you were going to send me one for my W124? Bob R Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 5, 2021, at 7:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I think they’re different than the “regular” grommets, so be sure to check > the part numbers. I seem to recall there

Re: [MBZ] Master cylinder

2021-01-05 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I think they’re different than the “regular” grommets, so be sure to check the part numbers. I seem to recall there was something different about the grommets on this tank. -D > On Jan 5, 2021, at 9:53 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I was going to tackle it this past weekend

Re: [MBZ] Master cylinder

2021-01-05 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I was going to tackle it this past weekend but realized I should probably replace the grommets too which I did not have on hand. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 5, 2021, at 8:39 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > The washer fluid tank is a major PITA to replace. Ironic that they’re so

Re: [MBZ] Master cylinder

2021-01-05 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The washer fluid tank is a major PITA to replace. Ironic that they’re so brittle when they age, causing even a casual glance at one to shatter it. You know it’s bad when the dealer stocks them for a car that they stopped making 15 years ago. -D > On Jan 5, 2021, at 9:36 AM, Kaleb Striplin via

Re: [MBZ] Master cylinder

2021-01-05 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I have to replace the washer tank. I have a new one ready to go. This thing was supposed to be a flipper but may end up having to keep it a while. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 5, 2021, at 7:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I tried everything else and got nowhere until I replaced

Re: [MBZ] Master cylinder

2021-01-05 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
How much is a new MC? Last time I bled brakes, following a MC replacement in a hotel parking ramp, I bought 20 feet of clear hose (fish tank air line, about $10 from Walmart pet department) and then ran a line from right rear caliper bleed screw back up to MC reservoir.  Open bleed, pump the

Re: [MBZ] Master cylinder

2021-01-05 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I tried everything else and got nowhere until I replaced the MC. It wasn’t a bad job, kind of tight, though, like everything on these MLs. G-d forbid you have to replace the windshield washer fluid reservoir. That is a stinking nightmare. -D > On Jan 5, 2021, at 8:53 AM, Kaleb Striplin via

Re: [MBZ] Master cylinder

2021-01-05 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Perhaps I just need to replace the MC. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 5, 2021, at 7:52 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Interesting, as I had the exact same issue with the former ML500. Pedal > wasn’t soft or bled down, but the travel seemed way too long, even after > pressure

Re: [MBZ] Master cylinder

2021-01-05 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Interesting, as I had the exact same issue with the former ML500. Pedal wasn’t soft or bled down, but the travel seemed way too long, even after pressure bleeding the system when I replaced a stuck right rear caliper. It seemed like it almost went to the floor before you got any braking action.

Re: [MBZ] Master cylinder

2021-01-05 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
The thing that had me wondering about the MC is when it was leaking fluid and got low the pedal would go all the way to the floor. Wondered if pushing it too far ruined the seals in the MC. It does not seems to slowly sink though but will drive it again and pay more attention. Sent from my

Re: [MBZ] Master cylinder

2021-01-05 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Pedal does not go to the floor. Just too much travel. When I bled it this last time I basically ran a whole large bottle of fluid thru it. Some of the calipers took a while before I started seeing bubbles in the clear tube. After they quit I let it run for a while after before closing the

Re: [MBZ] Master cylinder

2021-01-05 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Always thought bad master cylinder was a slowly sinking pedal. Or brakes that won't release. The OP's problem sounds like it's not bled correctly. Especially since he didn't touch the MC mechanically. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] Master cylinder

2021-01-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Always thought bad master cylinder was a slowly sinking pedal. If pedal travel is too far, the pushrod on the pedal needs to be adjusted? Spongy or pedal to the floor is air in the lines. Guess that could also be a bad wheel cylinder or caliper, leaking line, etc. Allan Kaleb Striplin via

Re: [MBZ] Master cylinder

2021-01-04 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Yeah check all you’re break calibers If your petal goes to the flour --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jan 4, 2021, at 10:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Or perhaps a bad caliper. I have similar symptoms and the MC was recently > replaced. If your foot goes to the floor then

Re: [MBZ] Master cylinder

2021-01-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Or perhaps a bad caliper. I have similar symptoms and the MC was recently replaced. If your foot goes to the floor then it's definitely the MC. On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 8:16 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > What are symptoms of a bad master cylinder? On this ML I

[MBZ] Master cylinder

2021-01-04 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
What are symptoms of a bad master cylinder?  On this ML I just put back on the road, it previously was leaking brake fluid out of the grommets for the reservoir tank.  I replaced those and bled the brakes a couple of times but it seems the brake pedal travels too far to me.  Brakes seem to

Re: [MBZ] master cylinder

2015-08-25 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
When you say lines do you mean at the master cylinder? There is a line on either side of the sensor. Cracking the lines there might re-center the pin. Bleeding the brakes did not solve the problem. The light is still on. RB On 24/08/2015 11:00 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: IIRC, it was to

[MBZ] master cylinder

2015-08-24 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I finally got a rebuilt unit and replaced the master brake cylinder in my 115 300D yesterday afternoon. I bench bled the master cylinder before installation and now have a good solid pedal. Still need to bleed the wheel cylinders - hopefully this evening so I can drive it again. Must be 6 weeks

Re: [MBZ] master cylinder

2015-08-24 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Randy, I think Philip is on to something. If you have your owner's manual there should be an explanation for that light, and I think it is a simple float sensor to warm of low brake fluid. The same light may also indicate when the parking brake is applied, which may be a simple switch at the

Re: [MBZ] master cylinder

2015-08-24 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 24/08/2015 4:00 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Perhaps there really is a pressure imbalance? Yes, and that might be corrected when I bleed the brakes. If it corrects when I bleed the brakes, I will be happyy. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] master cylinder

2015-08-24 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
Randy wrote: One issue that remains, and I had hoped would be solved in all of this is the brake warning light on the dash still does not wish to go out. I believe it to be the sender that warns of an uneven pressure between front and back. Anyone know anything much about this? I have no

Re: [MBZ] master cylinder

2015-08-24 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 24/08/2015 3:04 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: Randy wrote: One issue that remains, and I had hoped would be solved in all of this is the brake warning light on the dash still does not wish to go out. I believe it to be the sender that warns of an uneven pressure between front and back.

Re: [MBZ] master cylinder

2015-08-24 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Perhaps there really is a pressure imbalance? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] master cylinder

2015-08-24 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 24/08/2015 3:07 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Randy, I think Philip is on to something. If you have your owner's manual there should be an explanation for that light, and I think it is a simple float sensor to warm of low brake fluid. The same light may also indicate when the

Re: [MBZ] master cylinder

2015-08-24 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I think it will be corrected when you bleed the brakes - that allows the pressures to balance again. On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 24/08/2015 4:00 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Perhaps there really is a pressure imbalance?

Re: [MBZ] master cylinder

2015-08-24 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I think it will be corrected when you bleed the brakes - that allows the pressures to balance again. +1 If there is air in the rear circuit, the pedal may feel ok and the stopping may appear to be normal, because the front brakes do 70-80% of the stopping. Bleedem, rear first.

Re: [MBZ] master cylinder

2015-08-24 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
IIRC, it was to open one set of lines, step on the brake pedal, then close the first and open the second, step on the brake, then close them all. I'd bleed the system first. Then again, maybe I'm not remembering correctly . . . On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] master cylinder repair kit???

2015-06-11 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
will just tear up again if the bore is corroded. At least a reman has the bore bored out then these things used. --R On 6/11/15 6:11 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=310053cc=1193666jnid=482jpid=0 So what do you think? I am tempted to

[MBZ] master cylinder repair kit???

2015-06-11 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=310053cc=1193666jnid=482jpid=0 So what do you think? I am tempted to try it and see what happens. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] master cylinder repair kit???

2015-06-11 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Not I BTDT and won't again. http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinfo.php?pk=310053cc=1193666jnid=482jpid=0 So what do you think? I am tempted to try it and see what happens. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] master cylinder repair kit???

2015-06-11 Thread Michael Esh via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] Master cylinder?

2015-02-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Sounds possible. A giveaway is if you sit at a stop with your foot on the pedal and it leaks down. Clear indicator that the cups on the master cylinder piston are leaking. Dan On Feb 21, 2015, at 5:53 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Clearly, I'm the king of

Re: [MBZ] Master cylinder?

2015-02-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Those are plentiful and relative cheap to replace. On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sounds possible. A giveaway is if you sit at a stop with your foot on the pedal and it leaks down. Clear indicator that the cups on the master cylinder

[MBZ] Master cylinder?

2015-02-21 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
Clearly, I'm the king of Junkers. I borrowed my girlfriend's landlords' 1986 300E the other day to get up to Maine from MA while the 240D was at my mechanic. Car had been fine until earlier today when the brakes felt a bit weak. I didn't make much of it until a little while ago when the brakes

Re: [MBZ] Master cylinder changing/bleeding

2007-11-07 Thread Rich Thomas
The reservoir actually has a round volume beneath the rear sensor, and a squarish volume beneath the front sensor, with what appear to be floats in them that come up to the vent caps (2 of these next to the sensors). From what I can see looking in the cap hole, they look like they are not

Re: [MBZ] Master cylinder changing/bleeding

2007-11-07 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 22:25:16 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brake fluid is a mild paint remover so cover the fender too. And if it doesn't remove the paint, even a small amount spilled onto the paint and then quickly removed will cause the paint to crinkle like the old crinkle finishes. Had that

[MBZ] Master cylinder changing/bleeding

2007-11-07 Thread Rich Thomas
So after messing around to check the vacuum on the 79 TDs brakes, I finally figured it must be the master cylinder (as someone suggested, but I needed to check the vac anyway). So I have the new one on and everything hooked up, now to bleed it all. How do I Make sure that all chambers are

Re: [MBZ] Master cylinder changing/bleeding

2007-11-07 Thread Peter Frederick
The cap opening shows both chambers on some, but I think on that one (sort of triangular dual tank?) you just fill up the front one until it overflows into the rear chamber. Make SURE the rear chamber always has fluid in it, else you just pump air into the lines. I use a MitiVac to bleed the

Re: [MBZ] Master cylinder changing/bleeding

2007-11-07 Thread JFreezn
In a message dated 11/7/2007 6:50:14 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So after messing around to check the vacuum on the 79 TDs brakes, I finally figured it must be the master cylinder (as someone suggested, but I needed to check the vac anyway). So I have the