Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread redghost
Well, I for one am willing to try supercharging Gump. I figure an inverter and commercial blow drier will suffice. On Sunday, October 30, 2005, at 03:25 PM, Sunil Hari wrote: If the car was intended to have more power, the Mercedes engineers would have put it there. On 10/30/05, Marshall

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread Marshall Booth
Hendrik Riessen wrote: My question is why would MB want to turbo the 240D? I would think that a turboed version would use the same amount of fuel as a 300D if not more. The only reason I can think of is in commercial applications where there is not enough room for the 5 cylinder motor but more

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread OK Don
I once saw the changes made to the 617 when the turbo was added. I can't find the article now, but IIRC, it included strengthened crank and rods, oil spray under the pistons for cooling, and sodium cooled valve stems. I could be wrong, it's been a long time (1981?). The 616 engine won't many, if

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread redghost
Then I will have to cut into the exhaust and fit the blow drier closer to the manifold. Might have to get the stainless model to survive the heat. On Sunday, October 30, 2005, at 04:26 PM, OK Don wrote: Since a Diesel supplies more air than needed, and adds the right amount of fuel, maybe

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
why would it use more fuel all other things being equal? Hendrik Riessen wrote: My question is why would MB want to turbo the 240D? I would think that a turboed version would use the same amount of fuel as a 300D if not more. The only reason I can think of is in commercial applications where

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread OK Don
No - I meant use the blowing exhaust instead of the blow drier -- Perpetual motion like -- - On 10/30/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then I will have to cut into the exhaust and fit the blow drier closer to the manifold. Might have to get the stainless model to survive the heat. --

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread Rick Knoble
OK Don wrote The C111 was used as a test bed for the turbo charged 617 engine. They established several speed and duration records, and learned a lot with that car. Too bad they seem to have forgotten much since then ... Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread redghost
h, I do not want to lower Gump's power. EGR is a bad thing, since I would have to engineer a way to put a BB in to block the valve. Will just stick with the blow drier idea On Sunday, October 30, 2005, at 04:49 PM, Marshall Booth wrote: OK Don wrote: Since a Diesel supplies more air

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread redghost
I do not know that the FSM would approve. If he were to touch it with his noodley appendage, then I could consider that. Right now the exhaust just blows into the cabin. May be better to route it back through the manifold On Sunday, October 30, 2005, at 04:42 PM, OK Don wrote: No - I

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread Marshall Booth
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: why would it use more fuel all other things being equal? The amount of fuel used in this series of engines depends almost entirely on the amount of work done. The different versions don't change efficiency much. Turbo the engine so it produces a little more power and

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread Tom Scordato
Boy thanks for the responce and on a Sunday evening to boot. I will go look at it. I do not think I want it after having heard from the group. But will pass on infor to anyone interested. Car is located in Northeast. Regards Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From:

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread Mike Canfield
I want another 240D...I am in the NEWhat is the asking price? Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO Boy thanks for the

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread Marshall Booth
Rick Knoble wrote: OK Don wrote The C111 was used as a test bed for the turbo charged 617 engine. They established several speed and duration records, and learned a lot with that car. Too bad they seem to have forgotten much since then ... Rick Knoble 1985 300 CD Well they HAVE since

[MBZ] Sunday night car list

2005-10-31 Thread redghost
http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/107515135.html --78 300d $850 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/107475640.html --66 230 $1k All the rest were just over priced vergasser models. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a

[MBZ] '80 300SD questions

2005-10-31 Thread Curt Raymond
A friend from work asked me to take his car for a weekend and see what I thought it needed, its an '80 300SD, odo says 128kmi but doesn't work. I'd still guess its less than 200k. The body and interior are perfect EXCEPT the seatbacks have been switched. That drives me nuts but is no big deal

[MBZ] Parts you may not need

2005-10-31 Thread redghost
http://seattle.craigslist.org/pts/106934686.html --114/115 shop manual http://seattle.craigslist.org/pts/106956363.html --71 parts car (114?) http://seattle.craigslist.org/pts/107045607.html --75 116 parts car http://seattle.craigslist.org/pts/107293583.html --190Db shop manuals

Re: [MBZ] '80 300SD questions

2005-10-31 Thread Chuck Landenberger
HI Curt... I have an '80 300SD.. WIll try to address each point you make, but may not have expertise for all of them. What is the VIN? On Oct 30, 2005, at 7:10 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: The temp gets to exactly 175, that seems a bit low to me, it also takes longer to get there than

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread Dave M.
*cough* Actually, the Finns have been TRIPLING the output from 60x engines. Like, 450hp from a 603 and 500hp or more from a 606. The really scary part? I think those numbers are at the rear wheels... meaning if you compare apples to apples, they may be approaching FOUR TIMES stock output. Merely

Re: [MBZ] Vacuum switch levers...wow, what a difference!

2005-10-31 Thread Curt Raymond
I've noticed my '83 240D 4spd manual has those levers too. It also has some kind of a vacuum modulator in the same place there was one on my '81 300TD that went to the transmission. What gives, did Mercedes have a way to modulate manual transmissions too? -Curt Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2005

[MBZ] Square Deal?????

2005-10-31 Thread Ralph W.
I assume this is a scam. Has anyone seen something similar on Craigslist? Is Square Deal real? The car in question is a '95 320SL I saw on the Detroit list. Hello , I am very glad that you are interested in my car. The car is an US model with US specs,it passed the test emissions and comes

Re: [MBZ] Square Deal?????

2005-10-31 Thread Jeff Zedic
SCAM SCAM SCAM RUN AWAY!! Just think about what the actual freight charge would be to AIR ship a car! Jeff Zedic Toronto 87 300TD 83 300D

Re: [MBZ] charging system voes, '82 300SD

2005-10-31 Thread OK Don
Good catch! And good luck finding another screw - salvage yard as a last resort? On 10/30/05, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Proud to answer my own question. The replacement alternator lost one of the screws that hold the regulator in place. It was the one that has the ground tab

Re: [MBZ] W123 outer tie rods -- any experience on here?

2005-10-31 Thread OK Don
To be sure, just call Rusty first thing in the AM, and tell him you need them Tuesday by noon. On 10/30/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bought a set of outer tie rods for my '77 240D. When we tried to install them yesterday afternoon we found that they are too fat. The box says they are

Re: [MBZ] charging problem, 560SEL

2005-10-31 Thread B Dike
The power for the alternator field coils travels through the dash charging light bulb filament. A burned out bulb will disable the alternator. In the case of my 77 240D, when I replaced the bulb, some dash lights came back on, and others turned off! Bruce --- Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Vacuum switch levers...wow, what a difference!

2005-10-31 Thread Marshall Booth
Curt Raymond wrote: I've noticed my '83 240D 4spd manual has those levers too. It also has some kind of a vacuum modulator in the same place there was one on my '81 300TD that went to the transmission. What gives, did Mercedes have a way to modulate manual transmissions too? The fingers

Re: [MBZ] Vacuum switch levers...wow, what a difference!

2005-10-31 Thread Steve MacSween
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What gives, did Mercedes have a way to modulate manual transmissions too? The fingers control vacuum that manages the EGR in later 240Ds - even ones with manual transmissions. Well this leads me to a question: can one, errr, modify the EGR in a 240d to obtain a bit

Re: [MBZ] '80 300SD questions

2005-10-31 Thread Luther Gulseth
www.odometergears.com I'm a satisfied customer. It's easy, why pay someone $60-200 when you can remove the gears and spend less than $50 on 3 new gears. it's only 8 screws and the gears are uncovered. Simply pull them off their axles and slip new ones back on. You may need a new drive

Re: [MBZ] Vacuum switch levers...wow, what a difference!

2005-10-31 Thread Marshall Booth
Steve MacSween wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What gives, did Mercedes have a way to modulate manual transmissions too? The fingers control vacuum that manages the EGR in later 240Ds - even ones with manual transmissions. Well this leads me to a question: can one, errr, modify the EGR

Re: [MBZ] '80 300SD questions

2005-10-31 Thread Curt Raymond
To all who responded: The HVAC works good except the center vents don't work at all. He's happy with it and I agree at this point its probably not worth messing with. The vacuum leak isn't so bad as long as the drivers door is unlocked. With the door locked it shifts REALLY hard and

Re: [MBZ] '80 300SD questions

2005-10-31 Thread David Brodbeck
Luther Gulseth wrote: www.odometergears.com I'm a satisfied customer. Count me satisfied, too. I bought a gear from them for my Volvo, a couple years back. It was a perfect replacement, as advertised.

Re: [MBZ] W123 outer tie rods -- any experience on here?

2005-10-31 Thread mykd1
Its best to look for a Lemforder or Moog replacement part, napa seems to have a problem with suppliers of aftermarket parts. Sometimes you'll get a made in canada or the even worse aisan made part and you can bet its not even close to the original. 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL

[MBZ] Nice '97 300D on ebay

2005-10-31 Thread Lee Levitt
220K miles, black with tan leather interior. Looks clean. Buy it now price at $8900. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-1997-E300-BLCK-TAN-DIES EL-223K_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6330QQitemZ4586369270QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZW DVW I would have considered this car if I hadn't already

Re: [MBZ] Working on the water pump - help needed

2005-10-31 Thread TimothyPilgrim
Well, bad news. I went and broke my extractor bit in the pilot hole. Looks like I've going to have to submit and take the case into a machine shop and get a pro to drill it out. Tim 1982 300TD Moby

Re: [MBZ] W123 outer tie rods -- any experience on here?

2005-10-31 Thread Peter Frederick
I never buy anything but OEM parts for my Benzes -- too many bad experiences just like yours. Only exception is wheel bearings, since SKF or Timken is all there is for all intents are purposes. I also suggest getting the whole tie rod rather than just the ends -- getting the end off can be a

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread l02turner
Sounds like turbocharging a 240D is not a viable solution. I would think putting a 300D turbo engine in the 240D - assuming you have a 240D and want more power from it - would be more practical. I suspect there's plenty of used engines around - Sincerely, Larry T (78 240D) A Blood Test

Re: [MBZ] Square Deal?????

2005-10-31 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
Sounds like a major scam to me. Aside from the usual scam red flags, why would anyone provide free shipping by airplane which would cost them about 3 or 4 times what they could get for the car. Craigslist has a link to forward scams related to their site to, might want to send this one along.

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread Marshall Booth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like turbocharging a 240D is not a viable solution. I would think putting a 300D turbo engine in the 240D - assuming you have a 240D and want more power from it - would be more practical. I suspect there's plenty of used engines around - It's even more

Re: [MBZ] '80 300SD questions

2005-10-31 Thread Steve MacSween
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The HVAC works good except the center vents don't work at all. He's happy with it and I agree at this point its probably not worth messing with. Actually the center vents only worked on one setting, on my 116, however I forget just now what that was. The vacuum leak

Re: [MBZ] 80 300SD Questions

2005-10-31 Thread l02turner
You wrote:Each glow plug goes to another port on the block, would this be the infamous series wiring? If definately glows faster than my car, or the light goes out faster anyway. You can get the Fast Glow Plug Kit from Rusty for around $85. It includes the GP's, wiring and a relay/black box

Re: [MBZ] Why are the newer (96-99) benzes prone to rust?

2005-10-31 Thread Loren Faeth
Yay for the green weenies. The ones in Germany should drive their trabbies and leave MB to build the good cars that pay the taxes and allow them to freeload. It is my understanding that the German government's drive in the early/mid '90s to set requirements eventually requiring recycling

[MBZ] Fast GP's

2005-10-31 Thread l02turner
I have the Fast Glow Plug kit installed on my 78 240D - an amazing improvement BTW. Last time I had a bad GP I had a terrible time finding a replacement GP - I ended up buying another Kit from Rusty. It worked ok, but I would like to find single GPs in the future. Anyone find them sold

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness

2005-10-31 Thread Loren Faeth
Drove a truck to Mizery on friday. Diesel was 2.99 going in, and 2.79 at the same station on the way out! Gas was about 2.20 ther, but was 2.08 in Ames on Friday. I drove the can this week, and left the SDL sit (sniff) At least things are finally going in the right direction. We still

Re: [MBZ] Vacuum switch levers...wow, what a difference!

2005-10-31 Thread Marshall Booth
Steve MacSween wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A 240D CAN accelerate just a little faster if you remove the air cleaner, but the the extra second or two of acceleration GREATLY shortens the life of the engine. Ooooh, no, no chance of me doing that on any diesel engine :-0. Won't work in

Re: [MBZ] Why are the newer (96-99) benzes prone to rust?

2005-10-31 Thread PONDERSOA
you know guys that was one of my original points about all autos not just benzes . from bean counters to green weenies( nice one) to governmental regulations the auto industry has changed radically we have witnessed American cars autos go form actually reasonably priced reliable autos in

Re: [MBZ] Roadside assistance in Stlouis

2005-10-31 Thread Loren Faeth
You speak for me. And, this is a repeat offender. I have never used a block list, but I am tempted. Loren (too many MBs to list 59-87) At 11:19 AM 10/28/2005, you wrote: this Mercedes ownership journey we're on is a fellowship. Perhaps Luther feels that when you offend someone else in the

Re: [MBZ] WVO on TV

2005-10-31 Thread PONDERSOA
i saw the show you were talkin about ti seems simple enough to do how ever it looks like you need a garage to work in space to work and some hefte equipment i saw a show on public tv featuring 3 wemon that were traveling across country doing the same thing they lived in a motor home

Re: [MBZ] Gump muffler

2005-10-31 Thread Loren Faeth
It is officially a resonator As near as I can tell, the theory is to lower the sound level without adding any back pressure. I have had Dissels with and without, and although it is a minimal difference, I prefer with. I also prefer a nice quiet sound of a BMW motorcycle go by than a no

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread Fmiser
rumor has it that Steve wrote: 2. Was the four banger designed to allow and run properly witht his type of adder. **snip** Also, unless the pump was removed and recalibrated up to compensate for the additional fuel demand from the turbocharging, the engine will be under-fueled and

Re: [MBZ] 1982 240D TURBO, YES TURBO

2005-10-31 Thread Steve MacSween
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reason for recalibrating the pump up is to squirt enough extra fuel into the cylinder to make full use of the extra air that's being pumped in. And that differs from what I said, in what respect? Mac

Re: [MBZ] '80 300SD questions

2005-10-31 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: To all who responded: The HVAC works good except the center vents don't work at all. He's happy with it and I agree at this point its probably not worth messing with. The vacuum leak isn't so bad as long as the drivers door is unlocked. With the door locked

Re: [MBZ] Roadside assistance in Stlouis

2005-10-31 Thread Mitch Haley
Loren Faeth wrote: You speak for me. And, this is a repeat offender. I have never used a block list, but I am tempted. Depends on how the blocking is done. You do not want to block any list mail in a manner that causes it to bounce back to Kaleb and make his life difficult. If I filter

Re: [MBZ] Steering box Marshall can I use

2005-10-31 Thread M.Affzaal.Khan
- Used steering boxes are available - there is little demand for them. Marshall Marshall Booth Ph.D. What would be the criterion for judging a 'good' used unit . Its certainlly seems worhwhile to get a used one,the new ones are quite pricy. Mak

Re: [MBZ] Steering box Marshall can I use

2005-10-31 Thread Mitch Haley
M.Affzaal.Khan wrote: What would be the criterion for judging a 'good' used unit . Its certainlly seems worhwhile to get a used one,the new ones are quite pricy. If on the car, low mileage, little slop near center, no leaks. If on the shelf, not substantially looser on center than

Re: [MBZ] W123 outer tie rods -- any experience on here?

2005-10-31 Thread Trampas
I ran into the same problems getting the tie rod ends for my W126. I finally just ordered the assembly from Rusty. Note that from my experience if you are going to keep the car go ahead and replace both the left and right tie rod assembly, center link, idler arm, and guide rod bushings/bearings

Re: [MBZ] Fast GP's

2005-10-31 Thread TimothyPilgrim
How's a fast glow plug different, in use? Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 10/30/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have the Fast Glow Plug kit installed on my 78 240D - an amazing improvement BTW. Last time I had a bad GP I had a terrible time finding a replacement GP - I ended up

Re: [MBZ] W123 outer tie rods -- any experience on here?

2005-10-31 Thread TimothyPilgrim
LOL! My wife -wants- me to keep working on my car. When I'm not she gives me crap for not doing so... Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 10/31/05, Trampas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ran into the same problems getting the tie rod ends for my W126. I finally just ordered the assembly from Rusty. Note

[MBZ] Looking at a 560SL - any advice?

2005-10-31 Thread Dave Wakin
I have wanted to pick up a 560SL for my wife for some time now, and one is avaialable locally that seems like a good deal. I am very familar with the 420 sedan, but don't know what to look for on an SL. I know some of you have these, or know what to look for, and I was hoping to get some advice

[MBZ] '87 300TDT - water at front passenger foot well

2005-10-31 Thread Tan Qu
Hi all, A friend of mine has a '87 300TDT. Recently he has noticed the carpet at front passenger footwell is always wet. We pulled the carpet and insulation up and found there was water in between the corrugations of the floorpan. Tried to soak up water with towels but it returned a couple of

Re: [MBZ] Why are the newer (96-99) benzes prone to rust?

2005-10-31 Thread OK Don
I think you have to add the workforce and the short term profit demands to the list of responsible parties. From the overpaid union guy who can't spell the part he puts on the car (and doesn't care ifit's there or not) to the share holders who demand a higher profit each quarter, to the management

Re: [MBZ] Steering box Marshall can I use

2005-10-31 Thread Marshall Booth
M.Affzaal.Khan wrote: - Used steering boxes are available - there is little demand for them. Marshall What would be the criterion for judging a 'good' used unit . Its certainlly seems worhwhile to get a used one,the new ones are quite pricy. Mak If you don't feel you know the

Re: [MBZ] Auto Trans fill capacity

2005-10-31 Thread Donald Snook
Larry T wrote: My original AT died last year and I had installed a used AT - the shop that installed it put regular ATF and I need to go with M1 - had it in the orig AT and loved the way it shifted! That doesn't really sound like a ringing endorsement of M1 ATF. If its that good

Re: [MBZ] Why are the newer (96-99) benzes prone to rust?

2005-10-31 Thread Tom Hargrave
I'll have to comment on the overpaid, under educated union workers comment since has Wife works for Daimler-Chrysler for over 20 years and I've been a guest in 6 of their facilities. Although many would argue that they are over paid, I can say for a fact that most of the work force is educated,

Re: [MBZ] '87 300TDT - water at front passenger foot well

2005-10-31 Thread Trampas
Is he running the AC? The other question is has the windshield been replaced? Regards, Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tan Qu Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 8:56 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: [MBZ] '87 300TDT - water

Re: [MBZ] '87 300TDT - water at front passenger foot well

2005-10-31 Thread Zeitgeist
Just one possibility, but try removing the carpeted panels from the transmission tunnel, then look to see if the foam drain tubes from the climate control box have become disintegrated--there's one on either side of the tunnel. On 10/31/05, Tan Qu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, A friend of

Re: [MBZ] Why are the newer (96-99) benzes prone to rust?

2005-10-31 Thread TimothyPilgrim
Finally! Someone who understands that there IS a place for unionized work environments in the 21st century! Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 10/31/05, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll have to comment on the overpaid, under educated union workers comment since has Wife works for

Re: [MBZ] Looking at a 560SL - any advice?

2005-10-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
you might want to post this to the SL list as well. Dave Wakin wrote: I have wanted to pick up a 560SL for my wife for some time now, and one is avaialable locally that seems like a good deal. I am very familar with the 420 sedan, but don't know what to look for on an SL. I know some of you

Re: [MBZ] '87 300TDT - water at front passenger foot well

2005-10-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
AC? Heater core? That is assuming it has not been raining. Tan Qu wrote: Hi all, A friend of mine has a '87 300TDT. Recently he has noticed the carpet at front passenger footwell is always wet. We pulled the carpet and insulation up and found there was water in between the corrugations of

Re: [MBZ] '87 300TDT - water at front passenger foot well

2005-10-31 Thread Tan Qu
The water is clear water no smells of coolant. It's most likely rainwater (most recently hurricane Wilma) but where it is coming from baffles me - it's only at the passenger side footwell and the sheet metal (firewall) above the floor is dry and no signs of water intrusion that I can tell. Tan

Re: [MBZ] gasoline and oil in the AKP-Wagen

2005-10-31 Thread Christopher McCann
plus the mixture will slowly thicken as the gasoline evaporates, and you'll be polluting the atmosphere with unburned hydrocarbons because a diesel's fuel tank has no vapor recovery system. I think this is the clicnching argument. I was thinking that the gasoline would evaporate and leave the mix

Re: [MBZ] '80 300SD questions

2005-10-31 Thread Curt Raymond
Wierder and wierder. Today on the way to work I thought I'd see what the trans did with the drivers door locked, aka when its leaking vacuum so bad the engine won't shut off. Just as a wonder what'll happen I put the shifter in L, floored it and it took off like a raped ape! Hmm, sounds to me

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness

2005-10-31 Thread Christopher McCann
Mizery? That would be mazurah, thank you! :-) Chris --- Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Drove a truck to Mizery on friday. Diesel was 2.99 going in, and 2.79 at the same station on the way out! Gas was about 2.20 ther, but was 2.08 in Ames on Friday. I drove the can this week,

Re: [MBZ] '87 300TDT - water at front passenger foot well

2005-10-31 Thread Tan Qu
Thanks Casey, we will check on that. Tan --- Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a similar problem a while back, and found that water intrusion was coming in from under the car. I was missing one of the thick rubber pads under the jack holes. I sealed this hole and the other

Re: [MBZ] Why are the newer (96-99) benzes prone to rust?

2005-10-31 Thread Dave Wakin
I have a 97 e320, and it has started to rust as expected. Luckily, years ago I worked for my high schools bus garage in the summer and learned how to do body work and use a spray gun, so I have kept on the repairs. There is only a thin layer of paint and a thin layer of primer before you get to

[MBZ] Off Topic -- My Dad remains on the dark side

2005-10-31 Thread Donald Snook
My parents live in Biloxi and both of their cars were totaled when Hurricane Katrina came through. They had one bad experience with Mercedes. They had a 1995 E300 that had all sorts of problems (I would guess because of the wiring harness problems). After sinking good money after bad, they swore

Re: [MBZ] Gump muffler

2005-10-31 Thread l02turner
Loren wrote:It is officially a resonator As near . Please be aware that if you have a new exhaust installed somewhere offering Lifetime Guarantee on the muffler, the resonator will not get the same warranty! Simply because it's called a resonator and not a muffler. I think technically, the

Re: [MBZ] Looking at a 560SL - any advice?

2005-10-31 Thread Bob Rentfro
Dave typed: This partciular one is and 86 and from Arizona If I knew anything about 560SLs, I'd be willing to do the someone-who-lives-there-go-look-at-it thing. Rusty, I think, had some kind of page that had model specific information on what to look for when looking at a potential

Re: [MBZ] Fast Glow Plugs

2005-10-31 Thread l02turner
you asked:How's a fast glow plug different, in use? The original GPs are wires in *series* - hot lead goes to #4 GP from the main fuse on the firewall - then thru the GP to #3, thru #3 to #2 and finaly thru #2 to #1 where a ground wire is attached. A failure in one GP will result in weaker

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness

2005-10-31 Thread Luther Gulseth
he pronounced it correctly, Mizery. :) -Original Message- From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 31, 2005 9:17 AM To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness Mizery? That would be mazurah, thank you! :-) Chris --- Loren Faeth [EMAIL

[MBZ] Custom grille for w123 series

2005-10-31 Thread Steve MacSween
Now that I'm the local w123 baron of sorts, I've been surfing the sites with photo galleries and have come across a couple of photo series with w123 cars with custom front grilles. I've seen these for w124s, but never for earlier cars. They are sometimes called Elegance (which is a Mercedes trim

Re: [MBZ] Off Topic -- My Dad remains on the dark side

2005-10-31 Thread Tom Hargrave
Look at it this way - if there were twice as many Mercedes fans out there then you would have had to pay three times what you paid for your old Mercedes. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of

Re: [MBZ] Auto Trans fill capacity

2005-10-31 Thread l02turner
you wrote:That doesn't really sound like a ringing endorsement of M1 ATF. If its that good why did your transmission crap out? Because it had over 280,000 miles on it and wasn't well cared for before I bought it at 150,000. The M1 ATF had been used for the past 20,000. One other thing

Re: [MBZ] Auto Trans fill capacity

2005-10-31 Thread Tom Hargrave
Ringing endorsement if Mobil-1 auto trany fluid I get a kick out of members who take a Mercedes with 150,000+ miles on the clock, switch to (you choose the brand of) a high tech fluid, run the Mercedes for another 100,000 or so miles and then give all the credit to the majic elixer. The real

[MBZ] More DARK Side.....

2005-10-31 Thread Chuck Landenberger
More bad news.. The dealer closest to me is Mercedes-Benz Chandler, owned by Penske Motorcars (or whatever). I drove by recently on I-10 and saw a new VERY large video display that announced the opening of a new Lexus dealership right next door. Both are owned by Penske...

Re: [MBZ] Fast Glow Plugs

2005-10-31 Thread Christopher McCann
For some models there is an upgrade beyond this (installed on my SD) that decreases glow time even more, gets hotter, plugs stay on while starting (at lower temp) and then stay on for up to 3 minutes to help even idle, etc. Beru sells a great kit - the GP's are not cheap, the relay is and you have

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness

2005-10-31 Thread Christopher McCann
I expect that from someone from ar-can-zes! :-) Chris --- Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: he pronounced it correctly, Mizery. :) -Original Message- From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 31, 2005 9:17 AM To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: [MBZ] Off Topic -- My Dad remains on the dark side

2005-10-31 Thread Gary Hurst
mercedes is the jaguar of the 21st century. get a new E class and you are getting a circa 1975 XJ. it's a travesty, but we've seen it all before. my newest benz is a 1992 300E. i cannot ever see getting anything newer, unless i just hit big money and get some new funky diesel and keep it under

Re: [MBZ] Fuel price wackiness

2005-10-31 Thread Luther Gulseth
just the description of the state matches it's name, not many states can claim that! -Original Message- From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 31, 2005 10:55 AM To: Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel price

Re: [MBZ] Why are the newer (96-99) benzes prone to rust?

2005-10-31 Thread John Peterson
I think the trouble is that MB is trying to hit a different price point- and killing their brand in the process. Unionized, quality labor would put the MB back where it was in price -- here is an example. My 300D cost 41,000 in 1991. A new CDI? 55k. 15 years of inflation have happened in

Re: [MBZ] Off Topic -- My Dad remains on the dark side

2005-10-31 Thread Gary Thompson
My fleet: 22 year old 300D, best of the W123 chassis. Solid and reliable. 10 year old E320, best of the W124 chassis. Solid and fun to drive. My wife loved it, but was really pining for something with less than 150K miles. 1 year old Lexus RX330. This time, when it came time to find my wife a

[MBZ] Extra Fuel Tank?

2005-10-31 Thread Gabriel S.
Found this on Ebay...did some mercedes really come with an Aux. fuel tank, or does this guy just including a jerry can in the trunk? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4586046329ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1 P.S. I think those rims looks cheesy. -- Gabriel Soto Southern

Re: [MBZ] '80 300SD questions

2005-10-31 Thread John Robbins
Curt Raymond wrote: Wierder and wierder. Today on the way to work I thought I'd see what the trans did with the drivers door locked, aka when its leaking vacuum so bad the engine won't shut off. Just as a wonder what'll happen I put the shifter in L, floored it and it took off like a raped ape!

Re: [MBZ] OT: Unionized work environments (Was: Why are the newer (96-99) benzes prone to rust?)

2005-10-31 Thread Gabriel S.
The guy I bought my car from also replaced his Mercedes with a Lexus saying that the seats offered better lumbar support for his wife with a bad back. I've driven a brand new Lexus i think GS 300 V6 and throught it drove like all Japanese cars...crappy engine sounds and controlls that feel like

[MBZ] This regular diesel gains speed faster than some turbo-diesels do! Just amazing!

2005-10-31 Thread Gabriel S.
LOL... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4585722307ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1 -- Gabriel Soto Southern California 1987 300D 230K=-

[MBZ] Seat upgrades?

2005-10-31 Thread Lee Levitt
Gabriel writes: The guy I bought my car from also replaced his Mercedes with a Lexus saying that the seats offered better lumbar support for his wife with a bad back. I've always enjoyed pretty well designed ergonomic seats in Volvos and Audis. Two of my Audis had relatively comfortable

[MBZ] 1980 300D Electrical Problem

2005-10-31 Thread Cal
I was wondering if anyone has had this problem. Every now and again the fuel gage, temp gage, turn signals and brake lights won't operate. Everything else, electrically works fine. The engine starts and runs. These items are the only things that stop working. Emergency flashers work and the turn

Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Electrical Problem

2005-10-31 Thread Trampas
Rotate and clean fuses Regards, Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cal Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 1:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 1980 300D Electrical Problem I was wondering if anyone has had this problem.

Re: [MBZ] '87 300TDT - water at front passenger foot well

2005-10-31 Thread ned kleinhenz
Tan: One of my '95 E300D's has a similar problem. The leak is on the driver's side. And rain water seems to leak in from above. I have those water retaining rubber floor mats. And the mat is often retaining maybe 1/2 to 1 liter of clean water after a hard rain. I've yet to find anything wet in

[MBZ] diesel prices coming down

2005-10-31 Thread dieselbenz24
Look for diesel prices to keep coming down over the next few weeks. Heating oil degree days are forecasted at 87,some 41 below normal. Above normal temperatures for the entire eastern 2/3rds of the country for the next 8-14 day period. (from noaa) dan elliott 82 300d-t 87kmi

[MBZ] Auto Trans - lifespan

2005-10-31 Thread dieselbenz24
What is the expected mileage lifespan range for my transmission I wonder ? I recall 150 kmi on average. Is that right ? dan elliott 82 300d-t 87kmi Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- 2 GB of storage and

Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D Electrical Problem

2005-10-31 Thread Bob Rentfro
As Herr Doktor Booth might say, replace ALL fuses if you're NOT CERTAIN how OLD they are. It's a good, inexpensive way to start troubleshooying. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 142K Litchfield Park, AZ Rotate and clean fuses Regards, Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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