Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D vs. 300SD?

2006-11-03 Thread kevin kraly
My heart always comes back to the 1977 to 1980 pre turbo 123 chassis, (my two cents). I've had 5 of them, 3 300D's and 2 300CD's. I would have to agree with you on simplicity, no ALDA adjustment and no extra places for oil leaks such as the turbo oil drain tubes. I say this as I'm about

Re: [MBZ] Oil Sucker for Tranny Juice

2006-11-03 Thread Rich Thomas
Same problem when I did mine, even assembled it correctly (or the same way it came apart anyway) and it still leaked a bit. Drained it, put some gasket sealer on the washers and reassembled and that has held tight. Oh impure mechanical not-approved-by-Benz hacking, you offend Wotan et al.

Re: [MBZ] Rare AMG W123

2006-11-03 Thread Michael Hall
http://www.mercedes-damien.com/historique/amg%20sous%20menu/AMG%20W123/amg%20w123.htm http://www.amg-classics.de/6601.html is the guide i have [had] somewhere in pdf. The didn't really get much extra hp out of the 110 - wonder if the thread starting car has AMG engine mods - if the valve cover

Re: [MBZ] New Audi

2006-11-03 Thread Rich Thomas
'You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck driving high-powered diesel SUVs.' JFK-H Jeff Zedic wrote: Somebody, somewhere please tell me why the hell you need those

[MBZ] cheap SDL

2006-11-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin, Cox Auto Trader
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Re: [MBZ] W123.special

2006-11-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
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Re: [MBZ] W124.special

2006-11-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
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[MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-11-03 Thread Luther Gulseth
Removed the monovalve insert tonight, it was clogged with the red-sandlike radiator/block/head sealer stuff from the PPO. So, I installed one I replaced in my SD (before I discovered that the coil was bad) and suddenly I have heat in the car. So, I took it on a drive tonight, about 5 miles on

[MBZ] '84 or '85 300SD vs. '87 300SDL

2006-11-03 Thread Craig McCluskey
I've been following the previous thread about W123 vs. early W126. How about a comparison of early W126 vs. later W126? Craig

Re: [MBZ] '84 or '85 300SD vs. '87 300SDL

2006-11-03 Thread Jim Cathey
How about a comparison of early W126 vs. later W126? Pretty much all the late model 126's were L's, right? Whole 'nother kettle of fish. I really like ours. Also had the new wheels and lights, factory alarm, and the any-lock central locking system. Memory seats. These from memory. Oh, and

Re: [MBZ] GP Infant Mortality

2006-11-03 Thread Jim Cathey
Cosider this: It starts instantly - after I count to 10 before firing it up - so it *is* pre-glowing the GPs. Else it would be hard to start. When it starts, it seems as though 1 cylinder is not firing until ~10 seconds after the engine starts - which makes me think it's a GP or the wiring

Re: [MBZ] GP Infant Mortality

2006-11-03 Thread Jim Cathey
I just checked the wiring and GPs by testing the resistance between the plug at the relay and the engine. I removed the plug and put the pos lead in the plug and the neg against the engine block - got a reading of .4 on all 5 - Does that mean my wiring ** the GPs is good or do I have

Re: [MBZ] GP Infant Mortality

2006-11-03 Thread Jim Cathey
got a reading of .4 on all 5 - The nominal 0.6 ohm (cold, but not too cold) value of the new-style plugs is in the borderline area of being able to use a garden-variety ohmmeter to diagnose. Consider the lowly series plug of yore, that has a nominal (hot) resistance of 0.02 ohms, probably half

Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D vs. 300SD?

2006-11-03 Thread ts
Kevin said I would have preferred that all such cars had the manual ACC systems which the 240D's were equipped. He is right a week link, but has fostered some interesting alternatives to fix it...Tom Bellefonte PA - Original Message - From: kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes

[MBZ] 1979 240D Time Chain Stretch

2006-11-03 Thread ts
Have to adjust valves again has it been 20K allready since I did it? Bought a dial gauage and want to test the stretch and timing while I am in there. Anyone now exactly what size threaded piece with thread size I need or can describe it to bolt into engine to hold the dial indicator. I

Re: [MBZ] GP Infant Mortality

2006-11-03 Thread LarryT
Hi Jim, I sincerely appreciate you taking the time to do the writeup below - but my limited knowledge of electrical stuff makes most of it meaningless. Did my test of the resistance of the wiring GPs do any good at all? Should I ty to get Mercedes to fork over a new relay? If I tell them I

Re: [MBZ] '84 or '85 300SD vs. '87 300SDL

2006-11-03 Thread Trampas
I love the L's it is so much nicer having the extra room in the back seat. The 300SDL with good head is suppose to be a good engine. Not as good as the 617, as it requires more maintenance, regular vacuum pump replacements, more likely for IP to leak, etc. But it will run circles around the 617.

Re: [MBZ] 1979 240D Time Chain Stretch

2006-11-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
why do you need a dial indicator to check chain stretch? You simply rotate the engine around till you line up with TDC on the crank, then slowly turn it till the lines on the cam shaft line up, then look at the crank and see how many degrees you are off. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have to

Re: [MBZ] '84 or '85 300SD vs. '87 300SDL

2006-11-03 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The 603 is as good or better that the 617 in terms of durability and reliability. Its much better in terms of starting, mileage etc. The difference is the 603 will not take as much abuse as a 617. As for the vacuum pump, after you replace the original with the updated part, you really

Re: [MBZ] 1979 240D Time Chain Stretch

2006-11-03 Thread Jim Cathey
Have to adjust valves again has it been 20K allready since I did it? Bought a dial gauage and want to test the stretch and timing while I am in there. You don't need any tools to do this, unless you suspect that something involving the nominal positions of the harmonic balancer and/or cam

Re: [MBZ] GP Infant Mortality

2006-11-03 Thread Jim Cathey
Did my test of the resistance of the wiring GPs do any good at all? Yes, it appears that your test has cleared the GP's themselves of being completely dead. But there is still room for doubt given the borderline ability of most meters to give accurate readings in this range. Should I ty to

Re: [MBZ] GP Infant Mortality

2006-11-03 Thread Jim Cathey
clamp-on DC ammeter myself, because it's also good for measuring things like starter current, etc. They're not particularly cheap, but they can certainly be had for less than my Fluke cost me. This one, for example, is $90. http://www.electrical-contractor.net/The_Store/EX/MA200_220.htm The

Re: [MBZ] GP Infant Mortality

2006-11-03 Thread Darrell W. Sigmon
Gentlemen, the way I test GPs is with a battery charger which has a 0 - 20 AMMETER by connecting the GP to the leads and watch the ammeter go to around 20A and as the GP heats the current slowly drops to around 15A and stays at 15A steady state. Now that is a good GP. Darrell Jim Cathey

Re: [MBZ] SCL 600

2006-11-03 Thread Hans Neureiter
The Buick. On 11/2/06, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hans wrote:I have a '97 Riviera, only make my wife ever considered driving until the E300D came along: The security system [SNIP] Hans, Are you saying the Riviera had all those problems or the E300D? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D,

Re: [MBZ] GP Infant Mortality

2006-11-03 Thread LarryT
Thanks Jim - I'll study on this for a while - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs Porsche Road Test

Re: [MBZ] '84 or '85 300SD vs. '87 300SDL

2006-11-03 Thread Mitch Haley
Trampas wrote: The 300SDL with good head is suppose to be a good engine. Not as good as the 617, as it requires more maintenance, I figure maintenance is about a wash. No valve adjustments on the 603, but GP replacement takes several times longer than a 617.

[MBZ] 240D water leak suspect?

2006-11-03 Thread Kevin J. Slater
Our 79 240D when parked up hill in the driveway and during a pretty heavy or medium heavy but constant rain will get some water inside. Some trace of the leak shows up on the hood release lever. There is a chunk of gasket that's missing from under the window frame rail that runs along the the

Re: [MBZ] New Audi

2006-11-03 Thread Curt Raymond
I was thinking the same thing last night when I heard about the new 250hp Honda Accord coupe. My Dodge Dakota has like 230hp and its more than you'd ever need. I'm thinking the most a car should ever need is 150hp and a fullsize pickup only around 300hp and thats for a real serious 1 ton work

Re: [MBZ] '84 or '85 300SD vs. '87 300SDL

2006-11-03 Thread Luther
Thermostat RR is more of a pain on the 603, can't do it from above the car like on the 617. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (270,491 mi) head case? '83 300SD (241 kmi) '82 300CD (162 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) needs MAJOR engine work '85 300D (280,176) parts car Quoting Mitch

Re: [MBZ] 1979 240D Time Chain Stretch

2006-11-03 Thread ts
I will do this hanks Kalb and Jim/tom - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 9:46 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1979 240D Time Chain Stretch Have to adjust valves again has it been 20K allready

[MBZ] OT - sad, shameful consumption was Re: New Audi

2006-11-03 Thread Kris Gilmore
At 04:32 PM 11/2/2006, Jeff Zedic wrote: Somebody, somewhere please tell me why the hell you need those kind of performance numnbers! It is for fun not need. Others fun is hard to understand. For example, I find it impossible to understand the fun in jewelry.. What if all the gold

Re: [MBZ] 240D water leak suspect?

2006-11-03 Thread ts
Usually it means the front windsheild seal is leaking, coul be door but my gues is the ladder. My 1979 240D does the same. Regards Tom - Original Message - From: Kevin J. Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 12:01 PM Subject: [MBZ] 240D

Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D vs. 300SD?

2006-11-03 Thread Curt Raymond
In my search for another car I was looking hard for a 115 since I've already had two 123 cars but I'm also a big fan of the 116. My wife doesn't particularly like the 124, 126 or 201 because the headlights aren't round... I'd really love to have a 116 300SD. I should have bought a low mileage

Re: [MBZ] Oh my

2006-11-03 Thread Jeff Zedic
That's here in Toronto. Wonder why he put it on CL Boston?

[MBZ] DC mechanic

2006-11-03 Thread Redghost
Need mechanic in DC for an old 240D. Anybody have good place to take a 76 to get a look at and made strong enough for a trip to Central America? -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz

Re: [MBZ] DC mechanic

2006-11-03 Thread Tyler Backman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Whose driving a w115 to central america? I have always wanted to do that I would someday like to go all the way to the tip of south america and back in a diesel mercedes. I wish they made a

[MBZ] Daughters, new cars and cellphones

2006-11-03 Thread RELNGSON
I've been reading posts about finding suitable vehicles for teenage sons and daughters of late and when I ran across a website containing NTSB reports of auto and truck accidents they have investigated, I thought this one was particularly relevant. I've gone through it several times and found

Re: [MBZ] New Audi

2006-11-03 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 09:11:44 -0800 (PST) Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A 1/2 ton truck shouldn't ever really need more than 200hp. And I thought our old, blue Chevy pickup ('64) with its inline 6 was adequately powered. Craig

[MBZ] WAY OT: Now explain this. [was Re: OT - sad, shameful consumption was Re: New Audi]

2006-11-03 Thread Craig McCluskey
If you can extend a cow's life by one lactation, Her lifetime profit will double OK, explain this. Craig

Re: [MBZ] DC mechanic

2006-11-03 Thread Redghost
Some woman on the MBCA forum needs a mechanic so she can drive. I moderate the w115 forum and figured you folks would be better able to find somebody on the Atlantic side than I am. Most of the folks posting on that forum are out in the tropics and deserts. She drove from London to West

Re: [MBZ] New Audi

2006-11-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 11/2/06, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somebody, somewhere please tell me why the hell you need those kind of performance numnbers! Is your peepee THAT small that you need to make up for it somehow?? When will this kind of lunacy end?? I think part of the problem is that most people

Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D vs. 300SD?

2006-11-03 Thread Levi Smith
So, I was originally under the impression the 300SD was just a slight variation on the 300D. I'm now getting the impression that the 300SD is an almost entirely different car but using the same engine and transmission. So... Which parts are the same or different? From what I've

Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D vs. 300SD?

2006-11-03 Thread Levi Smith
So, I'm now gathering that the 300SD is more or less a different car with the same engine and transmission as the 300D (both 83's). So what parts are the same(or compatible) between the two or which parts are different? Engine Transmission brakes body suspension springs shocks climate control

Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D vs. 300SD?

2006-11-03 Thread Rick Knoble
I'm now getting the impression that the 300SD is an almost entirely different car but using the same engine and transmission. Not almost. It IS an entirely different automobile. I think very few, if any, chassis, body or electrical parts will interchange. The S series was (and is) Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] New Audi

2006-11-03 Thread Rory
Our 617 diesels also incorporate a bell-crank mechanism on the throttle linkage to get approx 80% throttle application with an accellerator depression of about 50%. On 11/3/06, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/2/06, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somebody, somewhere please

Re: [MBZ] New Audi

2006-11-03 Thread Bob Rentfro
Curt typed: I dunno, I think the 2.2l in my 190D only has 72hp and for the most part I think its plenty. Even with my wife along and a 250# woodstove in the trunk. Somehow it's just right that weight in Curt's trunk would be a woodstove. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 162K '87 Acura Legend 178K

Re: [MBZ] 83' 300D vs. 300SD?

2006-11-03 Thread Rick Knoble
Oh yeah, what size are the wheels on the SD? 15's? Are they swappable with the 14's on the 300D? (And put the 14's on the SD?) I believe the bolt pattern is physically the same. If Marshall was here, however, you would learn the niceties of wheel offset and how if the engineers designed a

Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: Now explain this. [was Re: OT - sad, shameful consumption was Re: New Audi]

2006-11-03 Thread Kris Gilmore
At 03:31 PM 11/3/2006, Craig asked for an explanation of: If you can extend a cow's life by one lactation, Her lifetime profit will double A standard claim by the people who sell Animat: the leader in floor covering! known among dairy farmers. Further

Re: [MBZ] Daughters, new cars and cellphones

2006-11-03 Thread Rich Thomas
I am going to print the exec summary and MAKE my kids read it while I watch them, and quiz them on it when they finish. My 17 yr old is not yet driving, we talk about this all the time when we see this kind of idiocy on the freeway, which is multiple times nearly every day. --R [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] DC mechanic

2006-11-03 Thread Rich Thomas
At minimum she will need a 6 lift, 34 tires, skid plates, and about 6 100W lamps up front. --R Redghost wrote: Need mechanic in DC for an old 240D. Anybody have good place to take a 76 to get a look at and made strong enough for a trip to Central America?

Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: Now explain this. [was Re: OT - sad, shameful consumption was Re: New Audi]

2006-11-03 Thread Jeff Zedic
I would guess it depends on how many years a cow will produce milk to feed her young...how many years do they nurse a calf for? (in nature I mean) Jeff Zedic

Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: Now explain this. [was Re: OT - sad, shameful consumption was Re: New Audi]

2006-11-03 Thread Jeff Zedic
*The lactation cycle of a cow* On most Australian dairy farms, cows have their first calf at 2 ½ years of age. Cows have the same gestation (pregnancy) time as humans: 9 months. After the calf is born, the cow will continue to produce milk for about 300 days - this is called the lactation

Re: [MBZ] Semi O.T. Lens Polish

2006-11-03 Thread David Brodbeck
Jim Cathey wrote: 2) it's getting discolored, in which case no amount of polishing will do anything, it's a change in the bulk material. UV light does this to plastic, over time. I had that problem with my Volvo. The stupid thing looked like it had cateracts.

Re: [MBZ] SCL 600

2006-11-03 Thread David Brodbeck
Hans Neureiter wrote: The automatic lights go out when passing by a mall at night and will not come back on - dealer prognosis: replace all associated components, like module, multi-function switch, sensor and what not ($ 600+ in parts). I got sick of the automatic headlights on my Ford

Re: [MBZ] overheating SDL

2006-11-03 Thread David Brodbeck
Luther Gulseth wrote: Removed the monovalve insert tonight, it was clogged with the red-sandlike radiator/block/head sealer stuff from the PPO. So, I installed one I replaced in my SD (before I discovered that the coil was bad) and suddenly I have heat in the car. So, I took it on a drive

Re: [MBZ] WAY OT: Now explain this. [was Re: OT - sad, shameful consumption was Re: New Audi]

2006-11-03 Thread Rich Thomas
The way I understand it, dairy farmers don't make any money anyway, so if a cow gives more milk, doubling $0 is still $0 (what you lose on the first you make up on the second). Maybe having another calf will give some payback. --R

Re: [MBZ] Daughters, new cars and cellphones

2006-11-03 Thread David Brodbeck
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been reading posts about finding suitable vehicles for teenage sons and daughters of late and when I ran across a website containing NTSB reports of auto and truck accidents they have investigated, I thought this one was particularly relevant. I've gone through

Re: [MBZ] Steering tightening an 83' 300D

2006-11-03 Thread David Brodbeck
Trampas wrote: Turning the input shaft will not make a difference. The adjustment is on the output shaft and loosening the screw makes it tighter. If you over tighten the box then when you drive and release steering wheel it will not return to center, also it wears box more quickly.