I don't know about 124 cars but I put LEDs into my 240Ds and the upgrade was
fantastic. The annoying thing was that the bulbs I got were polarized so they
had to go in the right way but neither the bulbs nor the fixture were marked so
I had to put them in, reinstall the dash pod and see if it
Its amazing cars are not getting 60-70mpg by now.
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> On Jan 10, 2022, at 7:49 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>
>
> Mine is a 2015 with the common rail 2.0. Angie's Golf is a 2005 with the 1.9L
> "Pump Deuce" engine. Her car regularly gets in the high 40s but rarely breaks
>
Check the connector on the back of the engine for the crank position sensor
(which can also be bad).
Idle will be erratic if that sensor or the connector is bad.
Peter
On Jan 4, 2022, at 9:40 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
> The tach is squirrelly in the 87 300D. It has been constantly
Mine is a 2015 with the common rail 2.0. Angie's Golf is a 2005 with the 1.9L
"Pump Deuce" engine. Her car regularly gets in the high 40s but rarely breaks
50.
My old '98 Jetta with the old 1.9L engine was generally over 50mpg but that was
a light little rattle trap of a car. I loved it...
What does she do Curt?
Randy
On 10/01/2022 10:58 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
I get it, she's a sole proprietor so if she's not working she's not making
any money
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That is why I thought it was interesting that it did not have the Euro
headlights.
Did the company assume it would be brought to the USA and thus ordered
it with USA equipment?
Randy
On 1/10/2022 5:56 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
My parents bought it new at a NYC dealership
used to need a flashlight to see dash lights on my 240D's
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 10:38 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> How good you think LEDs are probably depends on what you started with.
> The dash lighting in a 123 stinks to begin with so the improved lighting
Awesome! It's great you have the car!
--FT
On 1/10/22 5:17 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
My dad with his 71 220 sometime in the mid seventies:
Me with the same car in 2008:
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They keep making them more powerful. Small engines turn out pretty
amazing power these days but that comes at the expense of fuel economy.
If people were happy with less power, the mileage would likely be better.
Randy
On 1/10/2022 7:53 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
Its amazing cars
She's a massage therapist which doesn't help. She's on her feet all day. To
make it worse she's all frustrated that she can't "fix herself" which is crazy
because she always says "I can't fix you"...
Curt
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On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 4:31 PM, Randy Bennell via
It looks exactly like the '70 220D that my Grandfather bought new. I owned
it until it became too rusty to be safe to drive (first 100k in MN).
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 4:18 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
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> My dad with his 71 220 sometime in the mid seventies:
>
No rust on this one!
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> On Jan 10, 2022, at 7:55 PM, OK Don via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> It looks exactly like the '70 220D that my Grandfather bought new. I owned
> it until it became too rusty to be safe to drive (first 100k in MN).
>
>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 4:18 PM
> Don’t they mostly emit UV or something close then the phosphors absorb and
> re-emit whatever color they are tuned to?
Usually not. I think mainstream is blue shining through a yellow phosphor.
The phosphors (multiple) emit the red and green wavelengths. The result
is white(-ish).
-- Jim
Interesting that it has North American style headlights.
Randy
On 10/01/2022 4:17 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
My dad with his 71 220 sometime in the mid seventies:
Me with the same car in 2008:
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> On Jan 10, 2022, at 6:33 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Interesting that it has North American style
But I suspect that now, it would also have to meet US regulations. Maybe
not back in 1971.
Randy
On 1/10/2022 8:16 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
Euro delivery has nothing to do with the build - the car is spec'ed out for the
destination country, they deliver it to you at the
What was it that caused Craig to have surgery on his neck?
Randy
On 1/9/2022 9:38 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
AKA spinal surgeon or whatever they are called. Been going on for
years but I have very limited range of motion on my neck. Can not
turn it very far from side to side,
Euro delivery has nothing to do with the build - the car is spec'ed out for the
destination country, they deliver it to you at the customer delivery center in
Mannheim with temporary (Euro) plates, and either they handle the shipping or
you do. At least that's the way it used to be done. I
Cars are heavier to be safer now - that costs fuel economy as well.
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 8:21 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> They keep making them more powerful. Small engines turn out pretty
> amazing power these days but that comes at the expense of fuel
Does that require engine to be taken out?
--FT
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> On Jan 10, 2022, at 10:50 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> 2007 Mercedes ML500
>
> https://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/d/dearing-2007-mercedes-ml500/7431155999.html
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
Not can’t imagine what would cause the oil pump to be bad and if so did it
trash the engine
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> On Jan 10, 2022, at 9:54 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Does that require engine to be taken out?
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
>> On Jan 10, 2022, at 10:50
I found them for around $3-400
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> On Jan 10, 2022, at 10:04 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> On 2022-01-10 22:17, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Appears to just need a rear bumper. Carfax shows rear damage front
>> airbags deployed. Why would front airbags
On 2022-01-10 22:17, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
Appears to just need a rear bumper. Carfax shows rear damage front
airbags deployed. Why would front airbags deploy in a rear
collision? Does not look like they deployed in pics.
That’s a good question. My guess is that since it was bought in the US, it gets
ordered with US specs. They probably didn’t ask where its ultimate destination
would be.
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> On Jan 10, 2022, at 9:11 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> That is why I thought it was
https://www.facebook.com/groups/mbfanaticsfsft/permalink/4668668309853258/
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> On Jan 10, 2022, at 10:19 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> The hitch is factory.
> And it has optional off road package.
> Was the 642 subject to the 272 balance shaft woes?
>
> Interesting serial number, 41.
>
Yeah that’s what I was thinking too but I have seen that something in there can
go bad. Who knows.
--FT
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> On Jan 10, 2022, at 11:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Not can’t imagine what would cause the oil pump to be bad and if so did it
> trash the engine
>
The hitch is factory.
And it has optional off road package.
Was the 642 subject to the 272 balance shaft woes?
Interesting serial number, 41.
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It ingested bits of balance shaft gear.
Rick
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Not can’t imagine what would cause the oil pump to be bad and if so did
2007 Mercedes ML500
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Appears to just need a rear bumper. Carfax shows rear damage front
airbags deployed. Why would front airbags deploy in a rear collision?
Does not look like they deployed in pics.
https://www.copart.com/lot/66500701/salvage-2008-mercedes-benz-gl-320-cdi-tx-san-antonio
Do you suppose this just needs a new fan motor? Bad bearings causing overload
and blowing fuses?
Boring colors but looks fairly nice otherwise and has a tow hitch.
https://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/d/hendersonville-2002-mercedes-c320-wagon/7431145925.html
693U TRAVERTINE BEIGE - METALLIC PAINT
835A AMARETTA/LEATHER/NAPPA/SEMI-ANILINE - BEIGE
On 1/9/22 10:31 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
Smoke silver? Mocha? Silver beige?
On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 6:55 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
wrote:
Good to know, might need to hit you up for
150k on the motor implies that the odometer says something else.
On 2022-01-10 09:10, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
Realtor spec, needs a grille
https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/raleigh-first-7500-takes-her-home/7430926162.html
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ML 320 is gas SUV. Unless this is an ML350?
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 9:52 AM mitch--- via Mercedes
wrote:
> 150k on the motor implies that the odometer says something else.
>
> On 2022-01-10 09:10, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> > Realtor spec, needs a grille
> >
> >
>
No it is diesel. Gas version is 350.
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> On Jan 10, 2022, at 8:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> ML 320 is gas SUV. Unless this is an ML350?
>
>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 9:52 AM mitch--- via Mercedes
>> wrote:
>>
>> 150k on the motor implies that the
Bluetec started in 2009.
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> On Jan 10, 2022, at 9:17 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> In that case where is the bluetec badge?
>
>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 10:12 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> BZZZT. Wrong!
>>
>>
How good you think LEDs are probably depends on what you started with. The
dash lighting in a 123 stinks to begin with so the improved lighting on the
LEDs made a good improvement.
-Curt
On Monday, January 10, 2022, 10:33:02 AM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes
wrote:
I tried LED dash
So why not cdi? Very confusing. I need a drink.
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 10:30 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> Bluetec started in 2009.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 10, 2022, at 9:17 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
True, though when I got my Element I think every bulb but maybe one was burned
out. The LEDs were OK, my main issues were that even though I ordered "white"
LEDS, the light had a bluish cast which I didn't care for. Also the light did
not seem to spread very well, so the instruments were
Realtor spec, needs a grille
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Fancy color - you're a PLAYER.
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 9:05 AM Floyd Thursby
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> 693U TRAVERTINE BEIGE - METALLIC PAINT
>
>
> 835A AMARETTA/LEATHER/NAPPA/SEMI-ANILINE - BEIGE
>
>
>
> On 1/9/22 10:31 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
> Smoke silver? Mocha? Silver beige?
>
> On Sun, Jan 9,
I tried LED dash bulbs in one of my Honda cars, and was not impressed. But
maybe it was the bulbs. Also they are diodes, so polarity matters, but the bulb
sockets are not polarized. So you have a 50:50 chance that the bulb will be in
"backwards" and you'll have to turn it 180 degrees.
On Tue,
BZZZT. Wrong!
There were diesel W164s, which is what this is.
-D
> On Jan 10, 2022, at 7:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> ML 320 is gas SUV. Unless this is an ML350?
>
>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 9:52 AM mitch--- via Mercedes
>> wrote:
>>
>> 150k on the motor implies
In that case where is the bluetec badge?
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 10:12 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> BZZZT. Wrong!
>
> There were diesel W164s, which is what this is.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jan 10, 2022, at 7:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>
It actually doesn’t look too bad all cleaned up but it’s still quite boring
--FT
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> On Jan 10, 2022, at 10:02 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>
> Fancy color - you're a PLAYER.
>
>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 9:05 AM Floyd Thursby
>> wrote:
>> 693U TRAVERTINE BEIGE - METALLIC
Might also ask if physical therapy could help, though I would assume they would
have referred you if it could.
I have a sore left shoulder that has *slowly* improved over the last two years
through range of motion and strength exercises. It still isn't as good as the
right side, but it is
Isn't that a lot of $$s for a humble 20 year old C class with frosted
headlamps?
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 11:05 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> "Driven by 87 year old marine pilot"
>
> Presumably an estate sale, or the gentleman can no longer drive.
>
>
>
They can, Mitch has reported some pretty good numbers with his gasser Cruze.
The thing is that as efficiency rises people say "Oh good, now I can have a big
SUV that gets "good" mileage." and squander all the efficiency on upsizing. You
see this in houses too, as building practices get more
On 2022-01-10 09:22, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
They can, Mitch has reported some pretty good numbers with his gasser
Cruze.
I was trying pretty hard on that 630 mile tank. But that mainly involved
trying not to drive through town, which was typically 25mpg.
Wanted to show the folks at
Maybe to you but not to the masses.
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 10:29 AM Buggered Benzmail <
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> It actually doesn’t look too bad all cleaned up but it’s still quite
> boring
>
> --FT
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>
> On Jan 10, 2022, at 10:02 AM, Andrew Strasfogel
> wrote:
>
>
Already did that, did not help.
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> On Jan 10, 2022, at 9:30 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Might also ask if physical therapy could help, though I would assume they
> would have referred you if it could.
>
> I have a sore left shoulder that has *slowly*
"Driven by 87 year old marine pilot"
Presumably an estate sale, or the gentleman can no longer drive.
https://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/d/franklin-2001-mercedes-c230/7430803045.html
Looks like a nice car if you don't care about the color.
Allan
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That’s one of my complaints when it comes to the “LED conversions” for older
vehicles. I pay close attention to the color temperature of the LEDs, as higher
= whiter/bluer.
-D
> On Jan 10, 2022, at 8:45 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> True, though when I got my Element I think
Shoulders are different than necks AFAIK.
I had a similar issue with my left shoulder that my PA said was an inflammation
of the “capsule” around the joint. After an injection and round of oral
steroids it was a lot better, and in less than maybe six months or so I’ve
regained mobility that I
The bulbs typically last forever... there are more issues with dirty
contacts than the bulbs themselves, which LEDs won't solve. Keep the look
original, it worked for 30+ years, it'll continue to work.
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 11:16 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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I don't think I've ever driven a 124 at night but my 201s had pretty good dash
lighting stock. 123 dash lights stink, the LEDs were a real upgrade.
-Curt
On Monday, January 10, 2022, 11:20:45 AM EST, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
wrote:
The bulbs typically last forever... there are
Shoulders benefit from active therapy - even after rotator cuff surgery
(which I had on each shoulder 11 years apart). The pain is quite powerful
but the results are worth it. I've experienced no discomfort in either
shoulder since completing surgery and followup PT.
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at
Going with slightly higher wattage lamps in the W123 did make a noticeable
difference, and as long as you didn’t max them out they wouldn’t melt anything.
-D
> On Jan 10, 2022, at 9:51 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> I agree. W123 (and W116) dash lights at full brightness, with
Not that I remember. The turbo would help to quiet the exhaust note at least.
-Curt
On Monday, January 10, 2022, 12:12:14 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via
Mercedes wrote:
So in such a light car do you hear the engine noise more loudly than in a
240 d?
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 8:49 AM Curt
That sounds familiar.
Spousal unit wanted to come out to Flagstaff to see if an extended stay would
help her arthritis due to previous experiences/stays.
Three-four days in she’s doing great, then she decides rather that turn up the
thermostat she’s going to haul a load of wood in for the wood
Cool white LEDs are usually kind of blue, most people prefer warm white which
is actually a mix of white and yellow LEDs...
-Curt
On Monday, January 10, 2022, 10:44:20 AM EST, Allan Streib
wrote:
True, though when I got my Element I think every bulb but maybe one was burned
out. The
I agree. W123 (and W116) dash lights at full brightness, with all bulbs
working, are just adequate at best. And I don't like a bright dashboard. On
other cars I typically set the dash lights somewhere between 50% - 75% of full
brightness.
Allan
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022, at 11:41 AM, Curt Raymond
So in such a light car do you hear the engine noise more loudly than in a
240 d?
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022, 8:49 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> Mine is a 2015 with the common rail 2.0. Angie's Golf is a 2005 with the
> 1.9L "Pump Deuce" engine. Her car regularly gets
So how is it "below KBB value" then?
There must be people paying that kind of money for that kind of car.
Allan
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022, at 12:04 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> Worth maybe half that on a good day
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
>> On Jan 10, 2022, at 11:17 AM, Andrew
> Her problem is that she won't take a solid week off to let it heal.
My brother broke his heel a few years ago. The docs said that he had to stay
off of it for something
like 90 days. Same story: "I can't afford to do that..."
So now he's on permanent disability. It never healed correctly
Incorrect. The masses are mostly boring.
--FT
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> On Jan 10, 2022, at 10:45 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>
> Maybe to you but not to the masses.
>
>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 10:29 AM Buggered Benzmail
>> wrote:
>> It actually doesn’t look too bad all cleaned up but it’s
I strained my rotator cuff a couple years ago. Mentioned it to my
chiropractor, he said "Oh yeah, I can help with that." I'll be danged but he
was right. He made an adjustment and gave me a stretch for it and about 2 weeks
later it was back to normal.He said that many rotator cuff tears were
> The strain I had sure hurt, a tear must be miserable.
It is. Six months post surgery, no pain, but I've still not regained my pre
injury strength. Still doing therapy. Getting better every day, but it is a
long slow process.
Rick
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As we age that healing takes longer and longer.Angie over-did it at the gym
back in November and her sciatic nerve either got pinched or rubbed on. It's
been 2 months of discomfort and pain.
Her problem is that she won't take a solid week off to let it heal. She'll take
a day off, feel a
Worth maybe half that on a good day
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> On Jan 10, 2022, at 11:17 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> Isn't that a lot of $$s for a humble 20 year old C class with frosted
> headlamps?
>
>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 11:05 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>>
I consider both the W123 300D and the W116 300SD to be pretty noisy cars.
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022, at 12:24 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> Not that I remember. The turbo would help to quiet the exhaust note at least.
> -Curt
>
> On Monday, January 10, 2022, 12:12:14 PM EST, Andrew
Fluid change/ conductor plate?
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I'm keeping an eye out for something like this to replace the old Ford Focus
wagon. This example looks rusty, but hard to see the extent from the flip-phone
photos posted.
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A neighbor in Houston had one of those in about that vintage, it was
constantly in the shop with electrical problems. They finally gave her
full credit on it for a new one a coupla years newer and that one was fine.
--FT
On 1/10/22 2:44 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
I'm keeping an
I really need to just get off my butt and get the transmission fixed in the
Element. That would serve the purpose. I procrastinated, and now it's cold.
On Mon, Jan 10, 2022, at 2:55 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> A neighbor in Houston had one of those in about that vintage, it was
>
Don’t they mostly emit UV or something close then the phosphors absorb and
re-emit whatever color they are tuned to?
--FT
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> On Jan 10, 2022, at 1:08 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Cool white LEDs are usually kind of blue, most people prefer warm white
>>
Well you know what PTB said
Plus, the temp gauge was showing -40 which is not encouraging as to the
functionality of the oldmanmobile
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> On Jan 10, 2022, at 12:28 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes
> wrote:
>
> So how is it "below KBB value" then?
>
> There must be people
That’s what contingency funds are for. When we were young we scraped to save
the recommended six months of income. Fortunately, we never had to tap it, but
just having it made decision making over things like this a lot less stressful.
-D
-D
> On Jan 10, 2022, at 10:56 AM, Jim Cathey via
> Cool white LEDs are usually kind of blue, most people prefer warm white which
> is actually a mix of white and yellow LEDs...
IIRC, all current 'white' LEDs are a mix of blue and yellow.
A blue LED excites a yellow phosphor, and the balance is
carefully tweaked in manufacture in order to yield
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