Re: [MBZ] Something for the guys who need to avoid deer

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Those field rats are so accustomed to being honked at that they have 
figgered out no harm comes to them if they ignore it.  So they ignore 
the sound.
Some of them in WI are so accustomed to being around people that I 
practically have to punch them in the nose to get them to move.   (close 
enough I could punch it in the nose.)   It is easier to get a cow or a 
horse to move than some of the field rats.   While others are wild and 
spook easily.   If on foot, I usually see how close I get before they move.


As for the ones that graze contentedly at the edge of the road, I often 
turn abruptly toward them to try to spook them.  It usually works, but 
makes SWMBO mad.



fmiser via Mercedes 
December 19, 2019 at 10:48 AM
But sometimes
there are the ones that don't seem to notice - maybe they are deaf?




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Re: [MBZ] Something for the guys who need to avoid deer

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Mitch wrote:

> Some deer just don't seem to care about noises that we think
> should scare the crap out of them. Like deer that mow the grass
> at the shooting range while you're using the shooting range. 

For the last bunch of years, I have adopted the policy of sounding
the car horn from when I see the deer until I'm well past.
Clearly this is useless for any deer I don't see.  It does help to
keep the friends and relations of the one I see from ending up in
front of the car.

However, it nearly always makes the deer move.  If they are
strolling, they run.  If standing in the ditch, usually move
away.  Very rarely do any move toward the car.  But sometimes
there are the ones that don't seem to notice - maybe they are deaf?

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Re: [MBZ] Something for the guys who need to avoid deer

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Last week buddy Zack shot what he thought was a doe (later turned out to be a 
small antlered buck) that was hanging out with two other deer. The two other 
deer moved about 100 yards off.When Zack approached the one he shot and 
realized it was a buck (he still had a doe tag) he looked the other two over 
with his field glasses and realized that one of them was a buck too and popped 
it. Tried for the doe but she was smart enough to finally move off.
We figure he's improving the condition of the deer herd by weeding out the 
stupidest ones.
-Curt

On Thursday, December 19, 2019, 8:38:40 AM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 
> On December 18, 2019 at 9:03 PM MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/BDYV3N/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1


Some deer just don't seem to care about noises that we think should scare the 
crap out of them. 
Like deer that mow the grass at the shooting range while you're using the 
shooting range. 

Reviews range from 'helps some of the time' to 'works great'. 
Like the one review says, fleeing deer only care about the danger behind them, 
not the danger in front of them. 
One time we're driving along in broad daylight during deer season, and a 
running doe comes towards the road at a 45 degree angle. Then she sees the 
truck, and accelerates so she can cross directly in front of the truck. The 
driver (not me) floored it to block her from running into the grille. She went 
behind us, but she wasn't happy about it.  

Reviews:
This is the third unit I have purchased. I've been using them for years; in my 
opinion this reduces the chances of a deer strike by approx. 1/3rd. In other 
words, one out of the next three deer that might have wandered in front of your 
vehicle will no longer do so. So in a nutshell, definitely worth it if you 
drive country roads like we dobut don't get overconfident. Adolescent deer 
aren't smart enough to get out of the way yet (as if any deer are 
smart).and if a deer is already on the moverunning from a predator or 
gunshotthis won't stop it. This device stops the ones that are 'on the 
fence' about crossing the road.

I live in an area with a ton of deer. Today i installed the deer alert system. 
I drove down the road a
nd saw a small deer on the side of the road eating grass. I can hear the alert 
system while driving while coming towards the deer. The deers ears perked up 
when i got within 100ft in which i was at about 10mph seeing if the deer is 
responding. Not sure if it worked. The deer slowly just walked back into the 
woods. Didnt seem like it was rushing to get away from the noise from the 
alarm. I gave it 3 stars but im thinking that that deer may have done the same 
thing weather i had it on or off. It did however make the barn kittens fly back 
into the barn when i drove by them which is good.

I own a pet sitting business in the country and have literally had several deer 
run into in my black Honda Civic traveling back roads in the dark. I purchased 
one of these, Hopkins 27512VA nVision Trailblazer Electronic Warning Devices, 
for my black Honda Civic and have not had a deer run into mesSince purchasing 
it. In fact, I have quite fun pulling up to a field of deer and turning it on 
and watching them flip their tails up and run in the opposite direction.

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Re: [MBZ] Something for the guys who need to avoid deer

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On December 18, 2019 at 9:03 PM MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/BDYV3N/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1


Some deer just don't seem to care about noises that we think should scare the 
crap out of them. 
Like deer that mow the grass at the shooting range while you're using the 
shooting range. 

Reviews range from 'helps some of the time' to 'works great'. 
Like the one review says, fleeing deer only care about the danger behind them, 
not the danger in front of them. 
One time we're driving along in broad daylight during deer season, and a 
running doe comes towards the road at a 45 degree angle. Then she sees the 
truck, and accelerates so she can cross directly in front of the truck. The 
driver (not me) floored it to block her from running into the grille. She went 
behind us, but she wasn't happy about it.  

Reviews:
This is the third unit I have purchased. I've been using them for years; in my 
opinion this reduces the chances of a deer strike by approx. 1/3rd. In other 
words, one out of the next three deer that might have wandered in front of your 
vehicle will no longer do so. So in a nutshell, definitely worth it if you 
drive country roads like we dobut don't get overconfident. Adolescent deer 
aren't smart enough to get out of the way yet (as if any deer are 
smart).and if a deer is already on the moverunning from a predator or 
gunshotthis won't stop it. This device stops the ones that are 'on the 
fence' about crossing the road.

I live in an area with a ton of deer. Today i installed the deer alert system. 
I drove down the road a
nd saw a small deer on the side of the road eating grass. I can hear the alert 
system while driving while coming towards the deer. The deers ears perked up 
when i got within 100ft in which i was at about 10mph seeing if the deer is 
responding. Not sure if it worked. The deer slowly just walked back into the 
woods. Didnt seem like it was rushing to get away from the noise from the 
alarm. I gave it 3 stars but im thinking that that deer may have done the same 
thing weather i had it on or off. It did however make the barn kittens fly back 
into the barn when i drove by them which is good.

I own a pet sitting business in the country and have literally had several deer 
run into in my black Honda Civic traveling back roads in the dark. I purchased 
one of these, Hopkins 27512VA nVision Trailblazer Electronic Warning Devices, 
for my black Honda Civic and have not had a deer run into mesSince purchasing 
it. In fact, I have quite fun pulling up to a field of deer and turning it on 
and watching them flip their tails up and run in the opposite direction.

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Re: [MBZ] Something for the guys who need to avoid deer

[MG via Mercedes]

OOPS!! I forgot the link.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/BDYV3N/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8=1


MG via Mercedes wrote:
Possibly something like this which doesn't rely on reflection from the 
ground. Cheap enough to buy one and see if it works and then get more 
for better coverage.


MG


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Re: [MBZ] Something for the guys who need to avoid deer

[G Mann via Mercedes]

OK... I vote for the siren, plus machine guns, as deer deterrent and
population control.
I'm sure airport neighbors wouldn't mind the occasional late night gun run
down the runways, right?
[sarcasm folks]

On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 5:21 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yep, that Stuka siren would do the trick.  I vote for Stuka siren.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 10:14 PM M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 7:35 PM OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> > > I'm wondering if the bi-tonal air powered whistles might help - if I'm
> in
> > > the air, I'm fast enough to power them 
> >
> >
> > This is what you need:
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EYVL3uXBCk
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Something for the guys who need to avoid deer

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Hmm - I like the idea of either the Screamers with Silver Comet
 or
the Whistler with Silver Comet

coming
out of the mouth of the dragon ...

On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 11:42 AM archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You might try some of these methods:
>
> https://www.margosupplies.com/us-en/product-category/scare-cartridges-launchers/
> Gerry
>
> On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 19:34:45 -0600
> OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
>
> > A normal landing with the throttle at idle doesn't bother them. Buzzing
> > them at 50 feet or so does cause them to leave the runway, at least long
> > enough to fly another pattern and get on the ground. The houses
> surrounding
> > the runway make shooting them safely difficult, though we do have hunters
> > at each end of the runway who do bag a couple most years.
> > I'm wondering if the bi-tonal air powered whistles might help - if I'm in
> > the air, I'm fast enough to power them 
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 5:10 PM G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > OK, how about using several, with converging fields of coverage,
> mounted on
> > > stands, with motion activation? OR, rig them with interlocking timed
> > > activation, so they are not all on all the time, sort of a random
> > > "sequence" to keep little bambi scared and confused.
> > > Surely, there is a way to outsmart these horned rats.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 3:35 PM MG via Mercedes  >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Possibly something like this which doesn't rely on
> > > > reflection from the ground. Cheap enough to buy
> > > > one and see if it works and then get more for
> > > > better coverage.
> > > >
> > > > MG
> > > >
> > > > G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> > > > > Any reason why the device could not be mounted on a stationary
> stand,
> > > > clear
> > > > > of runway [of course] and powered by a stand alone power supply?
> > > > > Perhaps, use several of them with interlocking fields of coverage
> to
> > > > shield
> > > > > the entire runway and approaches?
> > > > > Just a thought.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 12:34 PM OK Don via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hmm - sounded great for our runway where the deer like to gather
> at
> > > > night,
> > > > >> making at least one low pass before landing at night necessary,
> until
> > > I
> > > > >> read "The Hornet must have an unobstructed view of the road
> surface
> > > and
> > > > be
> > > > >> mounted in a forward direction at a 45° angle to the road surface,
> > > > within a
> > > > >> height of 6 inches to 3 feet to achieve maximum effectiveness."
> A, I'm
> > > > >> approaching from at least 200 feet up, and B - the surface is
> grass,
> > > not
> > > > >> pavement.
> > > > >> Oh well, low passes are fun anyway ...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 4:43 PM Craig via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> I saw this in a trucking magazine and thought it might be useful
> for
> > > > some
> > > > >>> who live in deer areas (in the north, I would think, but not
> > > > >> necessarily):
> > > > >>> http://xp3hornet.com/
> > > > >>> The Hornet Electronic Deer Avoidance System
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> The Hornet uses the LATEST MILITARY TECHNOLOGY to clear your
> way.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> The Hornet is your best protection against costly and deadly
> > > animal
> > > > >>> related accidents. Using the latest military technology from
> the
> > > > >>> field of high pitched, directional sonic bombardment, the
> > > Hornet's
> > > > >>> precision turned sonic generator alerts deer and other
> animals of
> > > > >>> your approach well before they can see or hear your vehicle.
> > > > >>> Proprietary wave variance tuning enables the sonic impulse to
> > > carry
> > > > >>> long distances. The Hornet is endorsed by major insurance
> > > companies
> > > > >>> and is used by police and emergency vehicles nationwide with
> > > > millions
> > > > >>> of proven road miles. Proven effective at any speed, the
> Hornet
> > > is
> > > > >>> electronically powered and does not rely on wind or air flow.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Craig
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> ___
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> > > > >> --
> > > > >> OK Don
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is
> time to
> > > > >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "There are three kinds of men: The ones 

Re: [MBZ] Something for the guys who need to avoid deer

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

You might try some of these methods:
https://www.margosupplies.com/us-en/product-category/scare-cartridges-launchers/
 
Gerry

On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 19:34:45 -0600
OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:

> A normal landing with the throttle at idle doesn't bother them. Buzzing
> them at 50 feet or so does cause them to leave the runway, at least long
> enough to fly another pattern and get on the ground. The houses surrounding
> the runway make shooting them safely difficult, though we do have hunters
> at each end of the runway who do bag a couple most years.
> I'm wondering if the bi-tonal air powered whistles might help - if I'm in
> the air, I'm fast enough to power them 
> 
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 5:10 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> > OK, how about using several, with converging fields of coverage, mounted on
> > stands, with motion activation? OR, rig them with interlocking timed
> > activation, so they are not all on all the time, sort of a random
> > "sequence" to keep little bambi scared and confused.
> > Surely, there is a way to outsmart these horned rats.
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 3:35 PM MG via Mercedes 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Possibly something like this which doesn't rely on
> > > reflection from the ground. Cheap enough to buy
> > > one and see if it works and then get more for
> > > better coverage.
> > >
> > > MG
> > >
> > > G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> > > > Any reason why the device could not be mounted on a stationary stand,
> > > clear
> > > > of runway [of course] and powered by a stand alone power supply?
> > > > Perhaps, use several of them with interlocking fields of coverage to
> > > shield
> > > > the entire runway and approaches?
> > > > Just a thought.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 12:34 PM OK Don via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hmm - sounded great for our runway where the deer like to gather at
> > > night,
> > > >> making at least one low pass before landing at night necessary, until
> > I
> > > >> read "The Hornet must have an unobstructed view of the road surface
> > and
> > > be
> > > >> mounted in a forward direction at a 45° angle to the road surface,
> > > within a
> > > >> height of 6 inches to 3 feet to achieve maximum effectiveness." A, I'm
> > > >> approaching from at least 200 feet up, and B - the surface is grass,
> > not
> > > >> pavement.
> > > >> Oh well, low passes are fun anyway ...
> > > >>
> > > >> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 4:43 PM Craig via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> I saw this in a trucking magazine and thought it might be useful for
> > > some
> > > >>> who live in deer areas (in the north, I would think, but not
> > > >> necessarily):
> > > >>> http://xp3hornet.com/
> > > >>> The Hornet Electronic Deer Avoidance System
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The Hornet uses the LATEST MILITARY TECHNOLOGY to clear your way.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The Hornet is your best protection against costly and deadly
> > animal
> > > >>> related accidents. Using the latest military technology from the
> > > >>> field of high pitched, directional sonic bombardment, the
> > Hornet's
> > > >>> precision turned sonic generator alerts deer and other animals of
> > > >>> your approach well before they can see or hear your vehicle.
> > > >>> Proprietary wave variance tuning enables the sonic impulse to
> > carry
> > > >>> long distances. The Hornet is endorsed by major insurance
> > companies
> > > >>> and is used by police and emergency vehicles nationwide with
> > > millions
> > > >>> of proven road miles. Proven effective at any speed, the Hornet
> > is
> > > >>> electronically powered and does not rely on wind or air flow.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Craig
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ___
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> > > >>>
> > > >> --
> > > >> OK Don
> > > >>
> > > >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > > >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> > > >>
> > > >> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The
> > few
> > > who
> > > >> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric
> > fence
> > > >> for themselves."
> > > >>
> > > >> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> > > >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > > >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > > >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Something for the guys who need to avoid deer

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I doubt either of Don's planes are rated for the stress of pulling out 
of a steep dive close enough the sireen would scare the field rats.


Even P-51s shed their wings when the pilot attempted to pull out of a 
steep dive.


Then there are the questions of availability and cost.

Maybe some form of low pressure air horn could be devised.  To use 
airflow into the horn during flight, with an on -off valve of some 
form.   Sort of a hvlp horn, rather than the normal hplv horn.



Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
December 18, 2019 at 6:20 AM
Yep, that Stuka siren would do the trick. I vote for Stuka siren.
-
Max
Charleston SC



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Re: [MBZ] Something for the guys who need to avoid deer

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Yep, that Stuka siren would do the trick.  I vote for Stuka siren.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 10:14 PM M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 7:35 PM OK Don via Mercedes  >
> wrote:
>
>
> > I'm wondering if the bi-tonal air powered whistles might help - if I'm in
> > the air, I'm fast enough to power them 
>
>
> This is what you need:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EYVL3uXBCk
>
> -MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] Something for the guys who need to avoid deer

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 7:35 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:


> I'm wondering if the bi-tonal air powered whistles might help - if I'm in
> the air, I'm fast enough to power them 


This is what you need:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EYVL3uXBCk

-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] Something for the guys who need to avoid deer

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

You'd have to ask the mfgr.   We had a different brand.  I don't 
remember ever seeing any flame.  I'd guess at night you could see flame.



OK Don via Mercedes 
December 17, 2019 at 8:21 PM
Hmm - wonder if you can see flame coming out of it? If so, how far? How
will it work into a 50 MPH wind?
We just bought this: http://www.reaa.ru/yabbfiles/Attachments/1112568F.jpg
after this happened:
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3TdaJyV9rNI/UH33jzDCFZI/ejw/-YG145suP-I/s640/2012-10-16_Putnam_Co_Exp_Aircraft_Crash_1_20121016183532_640_480.JPG
We plan to replace the eagle head with a dragon head and mount the landing
lights in the eyes. Making it breath fire would be an added plus!

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 7:43 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <



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Re: [MBZ] Something for the guys who need to avoid deer

[OK Don via Mercedes]

More info on the aircraft "crash":
http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2012/10/woody-pusher-n10ry-90-year-old-survives.html

and on the pilot:
https://youtu.be/pEL6TQCXBcE?t=232
He mentions the crash during the interview.

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 8:21 PM OK Don  wrote:

> Hmm -  wonder if you can see flame coming out of it? If so, how far? How
> will it work into a 50 MPH wind?
> We just bought this: http://www.reaa.ru/yabbfiles/Attachments/1112568F.jpg
> after this happened:
> https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3TdaJyV9rNI/UH33jzDCFZI/ejw/-YG145suP-I/s640/2012-10-16_Putnam_Co_Exp_Aircraft_Crash_1_20121016183532_640_480.JPG
> We plan to replace the eagle head with a dragon head and mount the landing
> lights in the eyes. Making it breath fire would be an added plus!
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 7:43 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> the sav-a-life German made ones are supposed to make the field rats
>> freeze, not run away.   You need something that will scare the bejeebers
>> out of em.   perhaps a propane cannon that would be switched on by the
>> sound of a light aircraft passing low overhead?   It would also alert
>> the homeowners that someone is landing.
>>
>>
>> https://pestrepellerultimate.com/products/guardian-g2-propane-cannon-telescoping-barrel
>> ?
>>
>> OK Don via Mercedes 
>> > December 17, 2019 at 7:34 PM
>> > A normal landing with the throttle at idle doesn't bother them. Buzzing
>> > them at 50 feet or so does cause them to leave the runway, at least long
>> > enough to fly another pattern and get on the ground. The houses
>> > surrounding
>> > the runway make shooting them safely difficult, though we do have
>> hunters
>> > at each end of the runway who do bag a couple most years.
>> > I'm wondering if the bi-tonal air powered whistles might help - if I'm
>> in
>> > the air, I'm fast enough to power them 
>> >
>> > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 5:10 PM G Mann via Mercedes
>> > 
>> >
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>
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric
> fence for themselves."
>
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> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
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"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
pause and reflect." Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
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2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Something for the guys who need to avoid deer

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Hmm -  wonder if you can see flame coming out of it? If so, how far? How
will it work into a 50 MPH wind?
We just bought this: http://www.reaa.ru/yabbfiles/Attachments/1112568F.jpg
after this happened:
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3TdaJyV9rNI/UH33jzDCFZI/ejw/-YG145suP-I/s640/2012-10-16_Putnam_Co_Exp_Aircraft_Crash_1_20121016183532_640_480.JPG
We plan to replace the eagle head with a dragon head and mount the landing
lights in the eyes. Making it breath fire would be an added plus!

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 7:43 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> the sav-a-life German made ones are supposed to make the field rats
> freeze, not run away.   You need something that will scare the bejeebers
> out of em.   perhaps a propane cannon that would be switched on by the
> sound of a light aircraft passing low overhead?   It would also alert
> the homeowners that someone is landing.
>
>
> https://pestrepellerultimate.com/products/guardian-g2-propane-cannon-telescoping-barrel
> ?
>
> OK Don via Mercedes 
> > December 17, 2019 at 7:34 PM
> > A normal landing with the throttle at idle doesn't bother them. Buzzing
> > them at 50 feet or so does cause them to leave the runway, at least long
> > enough to fly another pattern and get on the ground. The houses
> > surrounding
> > the runway make shooting them safely difficult, though we do have hunters
> > at each end of the runway who do bag a couple most years.
> > I'm wondering if the bi-tonal air powered whistles might help - if I'm in
> > the air, I'm fast enough to power them 
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 5:10 PM G Mann via Mercedes
> > 
> >
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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] Something for the guys who need to avoid deer

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Crossbow hunting is now legal here. Quiet, short range so houses are far less 
of an issue...
-Curt

On Tuesday, December 17, 2019, 8:44:03 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 the sav-a-life German made ones are supposed to make the field rats 
freeze, not run away.   You need something that will scare the bejeebers 
out of em.   perhaps a propane cannon that would be switched on by the 
sound of a light aircraft passing low overhead?   It would also alert 
the homeowners that someone is landing.

https://pestrepellerultimate.com/products/guardian-g2-propane-cannon-telescoping-barrel?

OK Don via Mercedes 
> December 17, 2019 at 7:34 PM
> A normal landing with the throttle at idle doesn't bother them. Buzzing
> them at 50 feet or so does cause them to leave the runway, at least long
> enough to fly another pattern and get on the ground. The houses 
> surrounding
> the runway make shooting them safely difficult, though we do have hunters
> at each end of the runway who do bag a couple most years.
> I'm wondering if the bi-tonal air powered whistles might help - if I'm in
> the air, I'm fast enough to power them 
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 5:10 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
> 
>

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Re: [MBZ] Something for the guys who need to avoid deer

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

the sav-a-life German made ones are supposed to make the field rats 
freeze, not run away.   You need something that will scare the bejeebers 
out of em.   perhaps a propane cannon that would be switched on by the 
sound of a light aircraft passing low overhead?   It would also alert 
the homeowners that someone is landing.


https://pestrepellerultimate.com/products/guardian-g2-propane-cannon-telescoping-barrel?

OK Don via Mercedes 

December 17, 2019 at 7:34 PM
A normal landing with the throttle at idle doesn't bother them. Buzzing
them at 50 feet or so does cause them to leave the runway, at least long
enough to fly another pattern and get on the ground. The houses 
surrounding

the runway make shooting them safely difficult, though we do have hunters
at each end of the runway who do bag a couple most years.
I'm wondering if the bi-tonal air powered whistles might help - if I'm in
the air, I'm fast enough to power them 

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 5:10 PM G Mann via Mercedes 





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Re: [MBZ] Something for the guys who need to avoid deer

[OK Don via Mercedes]

A normal landing with the throttle at idle doesn't bother them. Buzzing
them at 50 feet or so does cause them to leave the runway, at least long
enough to fly another pattern and get on the ground. The houses surrounding
the runway make shooting them safely difficult, though we do have hunters
at each end of the runway who do bag a couple most years.
I'm wondering if the bi-tonal air powered whistles might help - if I'm in
the air, I'm fast enough to power them 

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 5:10 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> OK, how about using several, with converging fields of coverage, mounted on
> stands, with motion activation? OR, rig them with interlocking timed
> activation, so they are not all on all the time, sort of a random
> "sequence" to keep little bambi scared and confused.
> Surely, there is a way to outsmart these horned rats.
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 3:35 PM MG via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > Possibly something like this which doesn't rely on
> > reflection from the ground. Cheap enough to buy
> > one and see if it works and then get more for
> > better coverage.
> >
> > MG
> >
> > G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> > > Any reason why the device could not be mounted on a stationary stand,
> > clear
> > > of runway [of course] and powered by a stand alone power supply?
> > > Perhaps, use several of them with interlocking fields of coverage to
> > shield
> > > the entire runway and approaches?
> > > Just a thought.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 12:34 PM OK Don via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hmm - sounded great for our runway where the deer like to gather at
> > night,
> > >> making at least one low pass before landing at night necessary, until
> I
> > >> read "The Hornet must have an unobstructed view of the road surface
> and
> > be
> > >> mounted in a forward direction at a 45° angle to the road surface,
> > within a
> > >> height of 6 inches to 3 feet to achieve maximum effectiveness." A, I'm
> > >> approaching from at least 200 feet up, and B - the surface is grass,
> not
> > >> pavement.
> > >> Oh well, low passes are fun anyway ...
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 4:43 PM Craig via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I saw this in a trucking magazine and thought it might be useful for
> > some
> > >>> who live in deer areas (in the north, I would think, but not
> > >> necessarily):
> > >>> http://xp3hornet.com/
> > >>> The Hornet Electronic Deer Avoidance System
> > >>>
> > >>> The Hornet uses the LATEST MILITARY TECHNOLOGY to clear your way.
> > >>>
> > >>> The Hornet is your best protection against costly and deadly
> animal
> > >>> related accidents. Using the latest military technology from the
> > >>> field of high pitched, directional sonic bombardment, the
> Hornet's
> > >>> precision turned sonic generator alerts deer and other animals of
> > >>> your approach well before they can see or hear your vehicle.
> > >>> Proprietary wave variance tuning enables the sonic impulse to
> carry
> > >>> long distances. The Hornet is endorsed by major insurance
> companies
> > >>> and is used by police and emergency vehicles nationwide with
> > millions
> > >>> of proven road miles. Proven effective at any speed, the Hornet
> is
> > >>> electronically powered and does not rely on wind or air flow.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Craig
> > >>>
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> > >> --
> > >> OK Don
> > >>
> > >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> > >>
> > >> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The
> few
> > who
> > >> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric
> fence
> > >> for themselves."
> > >>
> > >> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> > >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Something for the guys who need to avoid deer

[G Mann via Mercedes]

OK, how about using several, with converging fields of coverage, mounted on
stands, with motion activation? OR, rig them with interlocking timed
activation, so they are not all on all the time, sort of a random
"sequence" to keep little bambi scared and confused.
Surely, there is a way to outsmart these horned rats.

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 3:35 PM MG via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Possibly something like this which doesn't rely on
> reflection from the ground. Cheap enough to buy
> one and see if it works and then get more for
> better coverage.
>
> MG
>
> G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> > Any reason why the device could not be mounted on a stationary stand,
> clear
> > of runway [of course] and powered by a stand alone power supply?
> > Perhaps, use several of them with interlocking fields of coverage to
> shield
> > the entire runway and approaches?
> > Just a thought.
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 12:34 PM OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hmm - sounded great for our runway where the deer like to gather at
> night,
> >> making at least one low pass before landing at night necessary, until I
> >> read "The Hornet must have an unobstructed view of the road surface and
> be
> >> mounted in a forward direction at a 45° angle to the road surface,
> within a
> >> height of 6 inches to 3 feet to achieve maximum effectiveness." A, I'm
> >> approaching from at least 200 feet up, and B - the surface is grass, not
> >> pavement.
> >> Oh well, low passes are fun anyway ...
> >>
> >> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 4:43 PM Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I saw this in a trucking magazine and thought it might be useful for
> some
> >>> who live in deer areas (in the north, I would think, but not
> >> necessarily):
> >>> http://xp3hornet.com/
> >>> The Hornet Electronic Deer Avoidance System
> >>>
> >>> The Hornet uses the LATEST MILITARY TECHNOLOGY to clear your way.
> >>>
> >>> The Hornet is your best protection against costly and deadly animal
> >>> related accidents. Using the latest military technology from the
> >>> field of high pitched, directional sonic bombardment, the Hornet's
> >>> precision turned sonic generator alerts deer and other animals of
> >>> your approach well before they can see or hear your vehicle.
> >>> Proprietary wave variance tuning enables the sonic impulse to carry
> >>> long distances. The Hornet is endorsed by major insurance companies
> >>> and is used by police and emergency vehicles nationwide with
> millions
> >>> of proven road miles. Proven effective at any speed, the Hornet is
> >>> electronically powered and does not rely on wind or air flow.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Craig
> >>>
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> >> --
> >> OK Don
> >>
> >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >>
> >> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> who
> >> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> >> for themselves."
> >>
> >> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
> >> ___
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Re: [MBZ] Something for the guys who need to avoid deer

[MG via Mercedes]

Possibly something like this which doesn't rely on 
reflection from the ground. Cheap enough to buy 
one and see if it works and then get more for 
better coverage.


MG

G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Any reason why the device could not be mounted on a stationary stand, clear
of runway [of course] and powered by a stand alone power supply?
Perhaps, use several of them with interlocking fields of coverage to shield
the entire runway and approaches?
Just a thought.

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 12:34 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:


Hmm - sounded great for our runway where the deer like to gather at night,
making at least one low pass before landing at night necessary, until I
read "The Hornet must have an unobstructed view of the road surface and be
mounted in a forward direction at a 45° angle to the road surface, within a
height of 6 inches to 3 feet to achieve maximum effectiveness." A, I'm
approaching from at least 200 feet up, and B - the surface is grass, not
pavement.
Oh well, low passes are fun anyway ...

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 4:43 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:


I saw this in a trucking magazine and thought it might be useful for some
who live in deer areas (in the north, I would think, but not

necessarily):

http://xp3hornet.com/
The Hornet Electronic Deer Avoidance System

The Hornet uses the LATEST MILITARY TECHNOLOGY to clear your way.

The Hornet is your best protection against costly and deadly animal
related accidents. Using the latest military technology from the
field of high pitched, directional sonic bombardment, the Hornet's
precision turned sonic generator alerts deer and other animals of
your approach well before they can see or hear your vehicle.
Proprietary wave variance tuning enables the sonic impulse to carry
long distances. The Hornet is endorsed by major insurance companies
and is used by police and emergency vehicles nationwide with millions
of proven road miles. Proven effective at any speed, the Hornet is
electronically powered and does not rely on wind or air flow.


Craig

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for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] Something for the guys who need to avoid deer

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 13:05:04 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Any reason why the device could not be mounted on a stationary stand,
> clear of runway [of course] and powered by a stand alone power supply?
> Perhaps, use several of them with interlocking fields of coverage to
> shield the entire runway and approaches?
> Just a thought.

According to the website:

The device gets the deers' attention. They flee when they see
something moving toward them. If the device is running
continuously, they get used to it and don't respond.

I would think a flying airplane should make enough noise to get their
attention and since it is moving toward them, it should be enough.
>From what I infer from Don's comment, however, it isn't.

If you rigged up something like is used to illuminate unattended
airports' runways (a double-click of the aircraft's mic) and turned on
the devices mounted on a stationary stand (or stands) as you approached,
it might work.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Something for the guys who need to avoid deer

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Any reason why the device could not be mounted on a stationary stand, clear
of runway [of course] and powered by a stand alone power supply?
Perhaps, use several of them with interlocking fields of coverage to shield
the entire runway and approaches?
Just a thought.

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 12:34 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Hmm - sounded great for our runway where the deer like to gather at night,
> making at least one low pass before landing at night necessary, until I
> read "The Hornet must have an unobstructed view of the road surface and be
> mounted in a forward direction at a 45° angle to the road surface, within a
> height of 6 inches to 3 feet to achieve maximum effectiveness." A, I'm
> approaching from at least 200 feet up, and B - the surface is grass, not
> pavement.
> Oh well, low passes are fun anyway ...
>
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 4:43 PM Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > I saw this in a trucking magazine and thought it might be useful for some
> > who live in deer areas (in the north, I would think, but not
> necessarily):
> >
> > http://xp3hornet.com/
> > The Hornet Electronic Deer Avoidance System
> >
> > The Hornet uses the LATEST MILITARY TECHNOLOGY to clear your way.
> >
> > The Hornet is your best protection against costly and deadly animal
> > related accidents. Using the latest military technology from the
> > field of high pitched, directional sonic bombardment, the Hornet's
> > precision turned sonic generator alerts deer and other animals of
> > your approach well before they can see or hear your vehicle.
> > Proprietary wave variance tuning enables the sonic impulse to carry
> > long distances. The Hornet is endorsed by major insurance companies
> > and is used by police and emergency vehicles nationwide with millions
> > of proven road miles. Proven effective at any speed, the Hornet is
> > electronically powered and does not rely on wind or air flow.
> >
> >
> > Craig
> >
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>
> --
> OK Don
>
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
>
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Something for the guys who need to avoid deer

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Mount a coupla 50s on that plane and have some fun strafing action!

--FT

On 12/17/19 2:33 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Hmm - sounded great for our runway where the deer like to gather at night,
making at least one low pass before landing at night necessary, until I
read "The Hornet must have an unobstructed view of the road surface and be
mounted in a forward direction at a 45° angle to the road surface, within a
height of 6 inches to 3 feet to achieve maximum effectiveness." A, I'm
approaching from at least 200 feet up, and B - the surface is grass, not
pavement.
Oh well, low passes are fun anyway ...

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 4:43 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:


I saw this in a trucking magazine and thought it might be useful for some
who live in deer areas (in the north, I would think, but not necessarily):

http://xp3hornet.com/
The Hornet Electronic Deer Avoidance System

 The Hornet uses the LATEST MILITARY TECHNOLOGY to clear your way.

 The Hornet is your best protection against costly and deadly animal
 related accidents. Using the latest military technology from the
 field of high pitched, directional sonic bombardment, the Hornet's
 precision turned sonic generator alerts deer and other animals of
 your approach well before they can see or hear your vehicle.
 Proprietary wave variance tuning enables the sonic impulse to carry
 long distances. The Hornet is endorsed by major insurance companies
 and is used by police and emergency vehicles nationwide with millions
 of proven road miles. Proven effective at any speed, the Hornet is
 electronically powered and does not rely on wind or air flow.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Something for the guys who need to avoid deer

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Hmm - sounded great for our runway where the deer like to gather at night,
making at least one low pass before landing at night necessary, until I
read "The Hornet must have an unobstructed view of the road surface and be
mounted in a forward direction at a 45° angle to the road surface, within a
height of 6 inches to 3 feet to achieve maximum effectiveness." A, I'm
approaching from at least 200 feet up, and B - the surface is grass, not
pavement.
Oh well, low passes are fun anyway ...

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 4:43 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I saw this in a trucking magazine and thought it might be useful for some
> who live in deer areas (in the north, I would think, but not necessarily):
>
> http://xp3hornet.com/
> The Hornet Electronic Deer Avoidance System
>
> The Hornet uses the LATEST MILITARY TECHNOLOGY to clear your way.
>
> The Hornet is your best protection against costly and deadly animal
> related accidents. Using the latest military technology from the
> field of high pitched, directional sonic bombardment, the Hornet's
> precision turned sonic generator alerts deer and other animals of
> your approach well before they can see or hear your vehicle.
> Proprietary wave variance tuning enables the sonic impulse to carry
> long distances. The Hornet is endorsed by major insurance companies
> and is used by police and emergency vehicles nationwide with millions
> of proven road miles. Proven effective at any speed, the Hornet is
> electronically powered and does not rely on wind or air flow.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Something for the guys who need to avoid deer

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Probably just a simple explanation for Andrew's deranged wabbits.   
Probably comes from living in the swamp.



Clay Monroe via Mercedes 
December 14, 2019 at 5:20 PM
Invasive plagues?

Maybe relates to climate change, but I have noted an increase is 
nature attacking. There was a story in the paper about a deer out 
clubbing in the nightlife district a few weeks ago. Middle of 
downtown, rollicking Friday night around 1am with drunks, hookers, 
club bands causing a ruckus, and Bambi is right at home.


Last summer had a massive incursion of fluffy tail wabbits with no 
fear of humans. Middle of the day hopping slowly and munching on 
gardens. Nights were worse, with marauding packs of the beasties on 
sidewalks and streets. Beady little eyes all aglow when you hit them 
with headlights. And all manner of raised gardens enclosed in wire cages.


A few years before was the plague of snails. Non native sort. Escaped 
from chinese flower pots? I had not seen the sort in 40 years of 
playing in the gardens. Slugs abounded, but these new mollusks were 
gathered in crowds under all sorts of shaded areas. Lots of weird 
shell designs, makes you think they were following the gender confused 
vibe.


Now, I am seeing a creeping moss overtake the gardens and walk ways. 
This stuff is not the slow growth type that I would pressure wash 
every decade or so as it slowly thickened. The new stuff is fast 
growing, velvet smooth and not the emerald greens of the native type, 
but a vibrant kelly green. Comes on in mats on pavement and retaining 
walls. In two months! Very much like the plague of disposed junkies 
and other un-homed in Seattle.



clay


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Re: [MBZ] Something for the guys who need to avoid deer

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

good on him!    I let a guy hunt that was amazing. he and his pre teen 
daughter would sneak up on deer and turkeys and shoot them with a bow.   
AFIK, no indigenous ppl blood, but he sure hunted like a sioux!



Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
December 13, 2019 at 5:02 PM
My buddy Zack is doing his best to help out. He shot his 3rd and 4th 
deer today. Culling the population you might say.
He's amazing, he'll find a fresh track in the snow and run the deer 
down. Any time I've tried that I end up spending the day walking in 
circles with the deer laughing at me...


Curt



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Re: [MBZ] Something for the guys who need to avoid deer

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

My buddy Zack is doing his best to help out. He shot his 3rd and 4th deer 
today. Culling the population you might say.
He's amazing, he'll find a fresh track in the snow and run the deer down. Any 
time I've tried that I end up spending the day walking in circles with the deer 
laughing at me...

Curt

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  On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 5:43 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:   I saw this in a trucking magazine and thought it might be useful for 
some
who live in deer areas (in the north, I would think, but not necessarily):

http://xp3hornet.com/
The Hornet Electronic Deer Avoidance System

    The Hornet uses the LATEST MILITARY TECHNOLOGY to clear your way.

    The Hornet is your best protection against costly and deadly animal
    related accidents. Using the latest military technology from the
    field of high pitched, directional sonic bombardment, the Hornet's
    precision turned sonic generator alerts deer and other animals of
    your approach well before they can see or hear your vehicle.
    Proprietary wave variance tuning enables the sonic impulse to carry
    long distances. The Hornet is endorsed by major insurance companies
    and is used by police and emergency vehicles nationwide with millions
    of proven road miles. Proven effective at any speed, the Hornet is
    electronically powered and does not rely on wind or air flow.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Something for the guys who need to avoid deer

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 13/12/2019 4:42 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

I saw this in a trucking magazine and thought it might be useful for some
who live in deer areas (in the north, I would think, but not necessarily):

http://xp3hornet.com/
The Hornet Electronic Deer Avoidance System

 The Hornet uses the LATEST MILITARY TECHNOLOGY to clear your way.

 The Hornet is your best protection against costly and deadly animal
 related accidents. Using the latest military technology from the
 field of high pitched, directional sonic bombardment, the Hornet's
 precision turned sonic generator alerts deer and other animals of
 your approach well before they can see or hear your vehicle.
 Proprietary wave variance tuning enables the sonic impulse to carry
 long distances. The Hornet is endorsed by major insurance companies
 and is used by police and emergency vehicles nationwide with millions
 of proven road miles. Proven effective at any speed, the Hornet is
 electronically powered and does not rely on wind or air flow.


Craig

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