Re: Transposing sound clips?

2000-09-23 Thread Kevin Miller

On 22/9/00 9:03 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In hypercard, there is an option to transpose a single sound up and down a
 scale such as 
 
 play "harpsichord"  "c d e f g a b"
 
 is there a similar property in metacard instead of recording different notes
 for a single sound?

No - this isn't supported.

Regards,

Kevin

 Scott Yang, M.D.
 Kadena Pediatrics
 Okinawa, Japan

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generating tones

2000-09-23 Thread Sound Medicine, Inc.



Is there a way to generate two separate tones 
within metacard in sterio without just looping a *.wav 
file?


resizing and screen resolution

2000-09-23 Thread Mark Mitchell
I make a lot of projects for children, and it is important that they pretty much fill 
the screen, lest distractions occur.  I was dismayed when we got new larger high 
resolution monitors (mac) and discovered the projects shrank to a tiny size at the 
new, higher resolution.   If you turn the resolution of the monitors down, the stacks 
grow back to their original size, but the rest of the computer looks funky, requiring 
a return to higher res after you finish the game.  
We hope to soon branch out to a larger client circle, and if so, the resolution of the 
client monitors will be an unknown.  Ideally, I would like to be able to dynamically 
resize the projects.  Has someone already written a script/external which will do the 
calculations so that objects and cards will grow proportionally with windows, in a 
general way?

If not, I could work for an "average" monitor resolution...what would that be these 
days...or preferably in about a year in the future?  What is the resolution of the 
newer imacs?

And what about the windows world?

Any ideas/ help will be greatly appreciated.

mark mitchell

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Re: Transposing sound clips?

2000-09-23 Thread Raymond E. Griffith

On 22/9/00 9:03 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 In hypercard, there is an option to transpose a single sound up and down a
 scale such as 
 
 play "harpsichord"  "c d e f g a b"
 
 is there a similar property in metacard instead of recording different notes
 for a single sound?

And Kevin Miller replied:
 
 No - this isn't supported.
 
 Regards,
 
 Kevin

Can we feature request it? This was a *neat* ability. I used this and HC's
ability to deal with speech in my most important programs. I could really
use these features!

Raymond


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Re: resizing and screen resolution

2000-09-23 Thread Kevin Miller

On 21/9/00 4:48 pm, Mark Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I make a lot of projects for children, and it is important that they pretty
 much fill the screen, lest distractions occur.  I was dismayed when we got new
 larger high resolution monitors (mac) and discovered the projects shrank to a
 tiny size at the new, higher resolution.   If you turn the resolution of the
 monitors down, the stacks grow back to their original size, but the rest of
 the computer looks funky, requiring a return to higher res after you finish
 the game.  
 We hope to soon branch out to a larger client circle, and if so, the
 resolution of the client monitors will be an unknown.  Ideally, I would like
 to be able to dynamically resize the projects.  Has someone already written a
 script/external which will do the calculations so that objects and cards will
 grow proportionally with windows, in a general way?
 
 If not, I could work for an "average" monitor resolution...what would that be
 these days...or preferably in about a year in the future?  What is the
 resolution of the newer imacs?
 
 And what about the windows world?
 
 Any ideas/ help will be greatly appreciated.

My advice would really be not to worry about this too much.  People use a
wide variety of monitor resolutions (on monitors that are bigger and smaller
and so look different in themselves) and the best thing to do is to
recommend people change the resolution, before loading the program, to an
optimal value.  Trying to scale your work is going to be a non-starter.

800x600 is a good resolution to develop for: almost everyone can do it and
its not as small as 640x480.  Larger than that and you start to risk people
not being able to switch to it.

Regards,

Kevin

 mark mitchell

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Putting it to good use...

2000-09-23 Thread DVGlasgow


In a message dated 22/9/00 8:40:35 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I've just downloaded the MetaCard starter kit, and had a bit of a look at
the demo, and quite frankly it impressed the hell out of me.  What I'd like
now is a few ideas on how I might put this thing to good use.  If anyone has
any great ideas or tips on how make the most of MetaCard, please respond (on
or off list as you prefer).

This is an easy question, that doesn't need great scripting skills, so i'm 
gonna jump in so no one can accuse me of never contributing to the list.  

The limitations, such as they are,  are likely to be mostly in you, not 
Metacard.  I am very much a part time scripter, who was taught Algol 26 years 
ago at school.  Since then i have just tinkered about, never working in IT, 
but never able to leave it alone.  I discovered MC with absolute 
delight.I hack it about like a third rate Hypercard scripter (which is 
what I am)..  Its fast fun forgiving and flexibleand baffles other RAD 
users...I don't mean in terms of scripting, i mean in terms of producing 
something so professional looking so quickly.  .  So, if your starting point 
is like mine, just do the same, and have fun.

However, a huge chunk of the MC consituency come from neighbouring worlds 
where things are different.  They do really clever stuff and write on the 
list about the Windows Registry, sockets and cmds.  I guess some even make a 
living out of it.  I read this stuff in the vague hope that by some kind of 
osmosis, it will pass into my mind and start to make sense.  (Other threads 
are just a delight, despite being alien to your own interests.  My all time 
favourite was the discussion about displaying Japanese in fields.)

The fact that you were impressed means that you had the vision to perceive at 
least part of the potential of the tool.  I guarantee that it is even better 
than you now think..but you'll have to discover those little treasures 
for yourself.they are different for different folks.  (although the 
greatest AHA! for many, including myself is when you work out how groups in 
MC are so much more powerful than backgrounds in Hypercard)

I wasted a lot of time to start with trying to convert the many Hypercard 
stacks i had accumulated over the years.  In many ways the 
Hypercard/Supercard legacy is a hindrance as much as a help.  True you get a 
boost with the metaphor and a fair bit of scripting, and old books on 
scripting can still come in handy, but there are lots of old habits and 
perceptions that get in the way too...not least in the prejudice that 
exists out there against anything that is even a distant relative of 
Hypercard.  

My advice would be to think of a project and have a go at making it 
work.even if you already have something that does the job in Visual basic 
or Hypercard..  Chances are you can do it easier and better in MCand just 
think of the buzz when it works cross platform!  (Probably more fun for Mac 
users, I guess.)

Happy scripting.

David Glasgow


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Re: Putting it to good use...

2000-09-23 Thread Phil Davis

Wow! Great post! And to think I was *just* getting ready of saying
he never contributes...

;o)
Phil


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 In a message dated 22/9/00 8:40:35 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 I've just downloaded the MetaCard starter kit, and had a bit of a look at
 the demo, and quite frankly it impressed the hell out of me.  What I'd like
 now is a few ideas on how I might put this thing to good use.  If anyone has
 any great ideas or tips on how make the most of MetaCard, please respond (on
 or off list as you prefer).
 
 This is an easy question, that doesn't need great scripting skills, so i'm
 gonna jump in so no one can accuse me of never contributing to the list.
 
 The limitations, such as they are,  are likely to be mostly in you, not
 Metacard.  I am very much a part time scripter, who was taught Algol 26 years
 ago at school.  Since then i have just tinkered about, never working in IT,
 but never able to leave it alone.  I discovered MC with absolute
 delight.I hack it about like a third rate Hypercard scripter (which is
 what I am)..  Its fast fun forgiving and flexibleand baffles other RAD
 users...I don't mean in terms of scripting, i mean in terms of producing
 something so professional looking so quickly.  .  So, if your starting point
 is like mine, just do the same, and have fun.
 
 However, a huge chunk of the MC consituency come from neighbouring worlds
 where things are different.  They do really clever stuff and write on the
 list about the Windows Registry, sockets and cmds.  I guess some even make a
 living out of it.  I read this stuff in the vague hope that by some kind of
 osmosis, it will pass into my mind and start to make sense.  (Other threads
 are just a delight, despite being alien to your own interests.  My all time
 favourite was the discussion about displaying Japanese in fields.)
 
 The fact that you were impressed means that you had the vision to perceive at
 least part of the potential of the tool.  I guarantee that it is even better
 than you now think..but you'll have to discover those little treasures
 for yourself.they are different for different folks.  (although the
 greatest AHA! for many, including myself is when you work out how groups in
 MC are so much more powerful than backgrounds in Hypercard)
 
 I wasted a lot of time to start with trying to convert the many Hypercard
 stacks i had accumulated over the years.  In many ways the
 Hypercard/Supercard legacy is a hindrance as much as a help.  True you get a
 boost with the metaphor and a fair bit of scripting, and old books on
 scripting can still come in handy, but there are lots of old habits and
 perceptions that get in the way too...not least in the prejudice that
 exists out there against anything that is even a distant relative of
 Hypercard.
 
 My advice would be to think of a project and have a go at making it
 work.even if you already have something that does the job in Visual basic
 or Hypercard..  Chances are you can do it easier and better in MCand just
 think of the buzz when it works cross platform!  (Probably more fun for Mac
 users, I guess.)
 
 Happy scripting.
 
 David Glasgow
 
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Re: resizing and screen resolution

2000-09-23 Thread Geoff Canyon

on 9/21/00 8:48 AM, Mark Mitchell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If not, I could work for an "average" monitor resolution...what would that be
 these days...or preferably in about a year in the future?  What is the
 resolution of the newer imacs?

The iMacs do 640x480, 800x600, and 1024x768. I always use 1024x768, but I've
seen lots of people use 800x600.

The iBook is 800x600, the powerbooks and the LCD studio displays 1024x768.
LCDs can try to do lower resolutions, but it doesn't look nearly as good,
and I've rarely seen anyone do it.

I'm considering doing separate resolutions in my kid's software. If I do,
I'm likely to support 600x400, 800x600, and 1024x768 for now. But my layout
is fairly simple, making it fairly easy to do.

gc


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Re: resizing and screen resolution

2000-09-23 Thread Gary Rathbone

Agreed. We've developed a number of CDROM projects for Mac and PC. Whilst a
couple of years ago 640x480 was a consideration, we now work to 800x 600.

I'd suggest sticking to this 'average' resolution and adopt the following :

i) center your stage to the center of the monitor (there are functions
available to help you do this)

ii) to avoid distractions fill the rest of the screen (border) with black

iii) make sure nothing happens if they click on the black border

Guaranteed users will focus on whats happening and not the border ( just
like my TV when I watch a 'wide screen' film).

If you ask users to change the resolution of the computer you're assuming
they know how to. 

I'm not a fan of people having to change their set up in order to cater for
my software. I'd prefer my software catered for their machines. However you
can't please all the people all the time...

Rgds

Gary Rathbone

on 23/9/00 16:18, Kevin Miller at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 21/9/00 4:48 pm, Mark Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I make a lot of projects for children, and it is important that they pretty
 much fill the screen, lest distractions occur.  I was dismayed when we got
 new
 larger high resolution monitors (mac) and discovered the projects shrank to a
 tiny size at the new, higher resolution.   If you turn the resolution of the
 monitors down, the stacks grow back to their original size, but the rest of
 the computer looks funky, requiring a return to higher res after you finish
 the game.  
 We hope to soon branch out to a larger client circle, and if so, the
 resolution of the client monitors will be an unknown.  Ideally, I would like
 to be able to dynamically resize the projects.  Has someone already written a
 script/external which will do the calculations so that objects and cards will
 grow proportionally with windows, in a general way?
 
 If not, I could work for an "average" monitor resolution...what would that be
 these days...or preferably in about a year in the future?  What is the
 resolution of the newer imacs?
 
 And what about the windows world?
 
 Any ideas/ help will be greatly appreciated.
 
 My advice would really be not to worry about this too much.  People use a
 wide variety of monitor resolutions (on monitors that are bigger and smaller
 and so look different in themselves) and the best thing to do is to
 recommend people change the resolution, before loading the program, to an
 optimal value.  Trying to scale your work is going to be a non-starter.
 
 800x600 is a good resolution to develop for: almost everyone can do it and
 its not as small as 640x480.  Larger than that and you start to risk people
 not being able to switch to it.
 
 Regards,
 
 Kevin
 
 mark mitchell
 
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Can of Worms...

2000-09-23 Thread Gary Rathbone

As a Mac developer I monitor both the Realbasic and Supercard lists. Whilst
I'm active (and hopefully have assisted people) on this list, there are
people using RB and SC who are asking questions which could easily be solved
using MC. Previously, as a long term SC user, an MC 'mercenary' had a quiet
word in my ear, and, poached me from the SC list many, many  months ago.
Although this person will remain anonymous I remain in their debt.

The question is 'Do I maintain my competitive advantage by keeping quiet...'
or 'assist by suggestion...'

TIA

Gary Rathbone





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How do you delete a custom property set?

2000-09-23 Thread David Bovill

I can set the contents of a set to empty but haven't figured out hw to
delete an entire set?

Could someone help me with the syntax?


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Re: Can of Worms...

2000-09-23 Thread David Bovill

Simple, the more the merrier. Everyone benefits from the Metacard community
growing. The more people that use it and the more customers that are aware
of it - the more work there is for everyone.

 From: Gary Rathbone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 22:49:56 +0100
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Can of Worms...
 
 As a Mac developer I monitor both the Realbasic and Supercard lists. Whilst
 I'm active (and hopefully have assisted people) on this list, there are
 people using RB and SC who are asking questions which could easily be solved
 using MC. Previously, as a long term SC user, an MC 'mercenary' had a quiet
 word in my ear, and, poached me from the SC list many, many  months ago.
 Although this person will remain anonymous I remain in their debt.
 
 The question is 'Do I maintain my competitive advantage by keeping quiet...'
 or 'assist by suggestion...'
 
 TIA
 
 Gary Rathbone
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: How do you delete a custom property set?

2000-09-23 Thread Scott Rossi

I can set the contents of a set to empty but haven't figured out hw to
delete an entire set?

Could someone help me with the syntax?

I believe what you're after is:

  set the customKeys of (myObject) to empty

Regards,

Scott




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Re: Can of Worms...

2000-09-23 Thread andu




As a Mac developer I monitor both the Realbasic and Supercard lists. Whilst
I'm active (and hopefully have assisted people) on this list, there are
people using RB and SC who are asking questions which could easily be solved
using MC. Previously, as a long term SC user, an MC 'mercenary' had a quiet
word in my ear, and, poached me from the SC list many, many  months ago.
Although this person will remain anonymous I remain in their debt.

The question is 'Do I maintain my competitive advantage by keeping quiet...'
or 'assist by suggestion...'

My philosophy on this issue is that a good tool in the hands of a bad mind is worth 
less then a bad tool in the hands of a good mind. At the same time a larger user base 
of MetaCard is beneficial to almost everybody involved with the product. 
The worst thing that can happen to a MC developer is to see possible clients shying 
away from their product because they never heard of MetaCard. Not to mention my recent 
experience with a web hosting company trying to use MC for cgi. 


TIA

Gary Rathbone





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Feature request 14312: groupReferences property

2000-09-23 Thread David Bovill

As part of my campaign to make distributable components out of Metacard
groups... I find myself dissatisfied with the way that Metacard looks for an
object by name.

I am at the moment writing for every single object reference that I script
something like:

 put "hello" into fld "Text" of the owner of me

The reason for this is just in case there is another field named text in the
environment. Now this is beginning to annoy me as it is long winded. I would
prefer "fld Text" to refer first to a field named text within the current
group, and then anything in groups within any groups in that group, and not
to something outside of the current group unless I explicitly say so.

Now as this would clearly cause too many compatibility problems, how about a
little change so that I can set an object property (stack or group), so that
when "groupReferences is true" all references to controls are within the
current group (ie the owner)? This should apply to numbers as well as names.


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Re: Can of Worms...

2000-09-23 Thread Geoff Canyon

on 9/23/00 2:49 PM, Gary Rathbone at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The question is 'Do I maintain my competitive advantage by keeping quiet...'
 or 'assist by suggestion...'

To me, there's no question here. You help out if you can. The only question
I ask is, "Am I being intrusively promotional of a competing product on this
product's list?" And that question tends to cause me to be quiet. If there
is an obvious case for MetaCard, then I'll state it. If someone mentions
looking for a way to solve a problem, as someone recently did on the 4D (a
database product with rapid application development capabilities) list, and
doesn't mention MetaCard, then I'll point out that they should consider it.
But I don't go much farther than that unless someone asks me directly off
the list. 

gc


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