Thanks for posting those pics Bjørn. This fall has been amazing, but the most
astounding thing is that no one in Russia seems to have a high resolution
camera! :)
Mark
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Thank you ,Bjorn
Excellent work
cheikh
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Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2013, 3:19
Subject: [meteorite-list] Somewhat larger Chebarkul pieces off Russia 24 TV now
I just photographed
List,
Japan Beautiful BRIGHT Bolide mets over land!??? 14FEB2013
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2013/02/japan-bolide-14feb2013.html
Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Russians Wade Into the Snow to Seek Treasure
From the Sky by Andrew E. Kramer, New York
Times, February 18, 2013
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/19/world/europe/russian-scientists-say-they-found-meteorite-fragments.html?google_editors_picks=true_r=0pagewanted=all
Scientists Seek More Information
Russia’s Meteorite Explosion Was “Heard” Half-Way
Around the World by Eric Limer, Gizmodo, February 17, 2013
http://gizmodo.com/5984861/russias-meteor-explosion-was-heard-half+way-around-the-world
Russian Meteor Blast's 'Infrasound' Detected Over Vast
Distances by Becky Oskin,
Hi List. What an exciting week in the world of meteorites/asteroids! So here
goes...If you had only the choice of picking one small fragment for your
collection what would it be. Here are the choices:
Black Beauty Martian meteorite NWA 7034
or
A fragment of the recent and most historic event
Given there is probably more tkw of black beauty than chebarkul at the moment -
give me 'the Russian blonde'! :)
Mark
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Sent: 19 February
List,
Looking at the images I posted earlier today and the other smaller
fragments goverment scientists collected plus information about 1000+
small black meteorites from maybe one village, it seems this fall
deserves to be compared to the massive fall of pea-sized meteorites
like Pultusk, Poland
List,
2 Possible Daytime Bolide Events Japan - Seek Japanese and other Researcher`s
Help
http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.jp/2013/02/japan-researchers-of-bolides-fireballs.html
Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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Please, no comparison. Give me the Russian fall any day of the week.
A rock that stunned the world over another Moroccan Martian meteorite find?
Every university class on space/meteorites/impacts will endlessly study this
event.
Michael Farmer
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On Feb 19, 2013, at 6:14 AM,
Moon may have always held water, from its formation
by Liat Clark, Wired News, February 10, 2013
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-02/18/water-on-the-moon
Apollo Moon Rocks Challenge Lunar Water Theory
by Elizabeth Howell, Space.com, February 19, 2013
Why discriminate? Both are history-making meteorites in their own rights. Black
Beauty is not just another Mars rock and the Russian fall is far from ordinary.
We should see this as an opportunity (if there is the opportunity to own the
Russian fall) and them both to our collections.
Matt
But one problem, the Russian fall is likely going to be relatively cheap, I am
sure hundreds of kilos will be found and the price will likely be low. For $500
people will be able to buy one or many stones. $500 in black beauty gets you a
speck hardly identifiable as a meteorite.
Both are very
Of course that is all true. Point I was making is that they are both FRIGGIN
COOL so why say one is better than the other? We can debate that all day, just
count your lucky stars!
Good luck in Russia
Matt
Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote:
But one problem, the Russian fall is likely
I agree, but was answering the question posed and choosing one as instructed:)
Mike
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On Feb 19, 2013, at 8:46 AM, Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote:
Of course that is all true. Point I was making is that they are both FRIGGIN
COOL so why say one is better than the
Agreed, they are both cool.
So if Schrodinger's cat can be dead and alive at the same time, I would ignore
the rules and get both.
Mendy Ouzillou
From: Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com
To: Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com
Cc:
Hi Mike and List,
I will definitely be waiting for Mike to get back from Russia, with
pennies counted. So far, everything I have seen offered on the eBay
Quagmire are outright-fakes, misrepresented Sikhotes, or dog poop. I
want a real piece - not a piece of slag from one of the many
industrial
Bjorn,
You may be right but, this seems to be a lot like Carancas as well. Lots of
peas and the rest is soup. Also, like Carancas an ordinary chondrite, big in
the news and historically important and high priced at first but, due to small
sizes it might be very easy to satisfy collectors needs
A quote from the article: While trade in material from meteorites is
largely illegal, there is a flourishing global market, with fragments widely
available for sale on the Internet, usually at modest prices.
Aw, invoking shrodinger's cat is cheating! :)
Ok, in this universe, i'll take the Russian, in the other one the Martian..
lol
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Hello all,
It seems someone lost $ 4000.00 on a fake russian meteorite listing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/111013565868?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648
Only few rock samples were found and this seems a big iron. Cant belive how
stupid people buy such things on ebay..
Best
The NYT is tabloid pseudo-news along the lines of the National
Enquirer. They are the same publication that put out that hit-piece
against meteorites last year where all of us were declared as a black
market of illegal activity. It was little else besides slanderous
statements, half-truths, and
Since the NYT has accused us 'all' of undertaking 'largely illegal activities'
by trading meteorites - I say we bring a class action of libel.. ?
M.
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Stupid people and their money are soon parted.
I really don't feel too sorry for them.
Michael Farmer
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On Feb 19, 2013, at 9:27 AM, André Moutinho mouti...@bol.com.br wrote:
Hello all,
It seems someone lost $ 4000.00 on a fake russian meteorite listing:
The problem is, there are a few bad apples in the meteorite world.
But they are an extreme minority in relation to the greater numbers of
reputable and decent people involved with meteorites. That is true
for every group of people on Earth, no matter how big or small. If
you chooses to be
Indeed; Caveat emptor!
-Yinan
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote:
Stupid people and their money are soon parted.
I really don't feel too sorry for them.
Michael Farmer
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On Feb 19, 2013, at 9:27 AM, André Moutinho
I'll take the Martian if we are playing that game.
Mark Ford mark.f...@southernscientific.co.uk wrote:
Aw, invoking shrodinger's cat is cheating! :)
Ok, in this universe, i'll take the Russian, in the other one the
Martian..
lol
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That is a dreadful and mean thing to say. The Enquirer has much higher ethical
standards.
The NYT is tabloid pseudo-news along the lines of the National
Enquirer.
Paul swartz
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Crikey! There are a lot of stupid people. There were at least a dozen bidders
on this and they put in a total of 84 bids to work a starting price of 99 cents
up to $4100.
Paul Swartz
It seems someone lost $ 4000.00 on a fake russian meteorite listing:
?
This is ridiculous but, Not to worry. You cannot be ripped off on ebay any
longer. With Ebay's buyer protection policy ebay will assure you get your money
back. It is now bullet proof. All you do is file a not as described.
complaint and ebay will return your money (even if they have to pay it
In my opinion, the Martian Breccia is far more important than an Ordinary
Chondrite and will hold its value better than a witnessed fall with thousands
of pieces on the market.. A witnessed fall may very well lose 90% of its value
within a month or two once its coolness factor wears off. The
http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Science/Asteroid_Steins_hidden_gems
Asteroid Steins' hidden gems
European Space Agency
18 February 2013
ESA's Rosetta spacecraft snapped images of asteroid Steins as it
flew by the diamond-shaped asteroid on 5 September 2008
Sorry Adam, but this fall has been seen in every country and every tv in the
world. I would not expect it to be expensive because for sure thousands of
stones will be recovered. The price on black beauty is insane, already dropping
and I have Moroccans begging me to buy it. This Russian fall
Hi Ron,
Now, that's impressive.
John
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Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 1:50 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Asteroid Steins' Hidden Gems (Rosetta)
Great points Mike and Adam. Because my wallet has been taking a beating from
the U.S. economy all I can say is Mike set a piece of Russian fall aside
for me!
Sincerely
Don Merchant
Founder-Cosmic Treasures Celestial Wonders
www.ctreasurescwonders.com
IMCA #0960
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Hi,
Yeah, true, this is what people had with Pultusk more than hundred years ago
(maybe less private collectors, but Museum institutions for sure), same as with
Sikhotes..
This fall will be super important
BB is rare, maybe super rare but is overpriced?Most people will take more
Russian
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2013-063
NASA Releases Radar Movie of Asteroid 2012 DA14
Jet Propulsion Laboratory
February 19, 2013
[Image]
This collage of 72 individual radar-generated images of asteroid 2012
DA14 was created using data from NASA's 230-foot (70-meter) Deep
I'm waiting till the Russians bring some sacks loads of Chebarkul to
Ensisheim and hopefully there will be some BB there straight from
Morocco too...why choose when you can probably have both if you wait
;-)
Graham
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Tomasz Jakubowski illae...@wp.pl wrote:
Hi,
This is what makes meteorite collecting interesting. Some prefer falls and
some prefer rare types. I am saying that historically, there is way more bang
for the buck in a planetary piece than a fall unless it is a planetary fall.
The last Martian fall maintains around 40% of the initial
Adam, those who bought black beauty for $20,000 gram will lose 90%.
I expect this Russia fall to be couple bucks a gram for larger material.
Anyone paying $50+ gram for this will be an idiot just like those buying fakes
on eBay. Please don't stoop to calling this a boring ordinary meteorite, it
So where does this leave Tissint...one of the most undervalued
meteorites of all time. If it had come down as it did , but in the USA
or UK...what would have the price beenand yet what is the
difference. Pricing at the moment has gone bonkers.
Graham
On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Michael
I am not calling it boring. I think it is very exciting but not $500.00 gram
exciting. The event itself is astonishing but at $500.00 a gram, it is more
than 10 times higher than Pultusk! In my opinion, Anybody asking $20,000.00 a
gram for a Martian meteorite these days is being plan greedy.
Who said this would be $500 gram? There is always idiotic numbers floating
around. As a massive fall it will be a fair price I am sure. Anyway the free
market will work, price too high, no sales. Black beauty was sold abs marketed
for $20k gram.
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On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:07
I agree, Tissint was extremely underpriced. The evidence is that there is
virtually none on the market a year later. All nice pieces vanished into
collections. I will take Tissint over a Martian find any day of the week.
Michael Farmer
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On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Graham
A small piece sold for 157,000 per gram on Ebay.
No reserve auction.
Matt
Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote:
Who said this would be $500 gram? There is always idiotic numbers
floating around. As a massive fall it will be a fair price I am sure.
Anyway the free market will work, price
Hey, I'm all for the free market. People make a choice and pay what they want
at auction, but when they to sell it, see what is offered..
Michael
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On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote:
A small piece sold for 157,000 per gram on Ebay.
I agree with you Michael
I saw a Tissint at the Ensisheim show last June.
Just absolutely amazing... can't remember such
another beautiful black color !
Beside that, I am a pallasite addict
Michael B.
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Sounds good.
Michael Farmer m...@meteoriteguy.com wrote:
Hey, I'm all for the free market. People make a choice and pay what
they want at auction, but when they to sell it, see what is
offered..
Michael
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On Feb 19, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Matt Morgan m...@mhmeteorites.com
Sign me up for a kilo!
Paul Swartz
I expect this Russia fall to be couple bucks a gram for larger material.
Michael Farmer
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Tissint is a perfect example of what can go wrong if a dealer or two get in too
deep with credit cards or don't truly know the market. They can't handle the
pressure, panic and then dump at the first sign of competition. If they would
have priced it correctly from the beginning, they would
Completely agree, my partners as I bought over a million dollars in Tissint in
less than a month. Great meteorite, great price. There are no large pieces on
the market today. That tells me it was too cheap. I am happy to have a nice
hoard of it for the future.
I will try to do the same with the
Here we have a rare titanium and iron meteorite that sold for $17,000 from a
seller with 0 feedback. He still has 0 so I'm guessing this was never paid
for.
Mike when do plan on heading to Russia?
Don Merchant
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To: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com
Cc: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Wish list
Hi MikeG,
You are old ebay school. Ebay now credits fees and they also turn dead beats
over to an agency for collection. They will now ruin the sellers credit if
they don't pay so, in the long run these scammers will pay one way or another.
So, don't ever be afraid to buy anything on ebay.
Rookie Planetary Dealers... You hit the nail on the head Adam.
Jim Strope
421 4th Street
Glen Dale, WV. 26038
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On Feb 19, 2013, at 4:10 PM, Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com wrote:
Tissint is a perfect example of what can go wrong if a dealer or two get in
too deep
Generally an alright piece considered the source. At least they did not focus
on the fake black market aspect like the New York Times.
I couldn't help but fixate on the youngster wiping a snooger on the massive
iron (I believe Cape York if I am not mistaken). I wouldn't stick my finger in
I love your way of off-handedly giving out the medicine when it is needed. LOL.
I would have ranted at him and made a jackass of myself in the
process. You got the mission done with delicacy and measured means.
Well done sir. ;)
Best regards,
MikeG
On 2/19/13, Kevin Kichinka
Hello All,
Since this was a unique event, I've tried to ferret out as much of the
unedited
footage as possible, and have tried to avoid the compilations. At least the
40
I have found are getting closer to getting the originals, wherever they may
be.
Some were pointed to my list members;
Unfortunately, Dave did de-emphasize the hype on price - every time he was
asked. The actual session was much longer... but that sound bite was the
only clip they used from the entire interview. From his line of
questioning, you can tell the reported really wanted to hear that it was
worth
Thanks Sean.
Dave is very intelligent in the field and a good proponent of the
hobby/science. He does awesome outreach and his comments are commendable. I
applaud his appearance.
Each individual who goes public with the passion is knowingly always under the
microscope by the community, but
Hi Nick,
You may have found this list already. I haven't looked at it in detail:
http://www.webmasterworld.com/foo/4546400.htm
I learnt of this from email updates to the most interesting page:
Now this is how a meteorite news segment should be done :)
http://www.11alive.com/news/article/278519/40/Roswell-man-owns-real-down-to-earth-collection
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Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 7:19 PM
To: Kevin Kichinka
Cc:
Please note that this is NOT Off list even though
The subject box states OFFLIST.
Michael
On 2/19/13 5:45 PM, Sean T. Murray s...@bellsouth.net wrote:
Unfortunately, Dave did de-emphasize the hype on price - every time he was
asked. The actual session was much longer... but that sound bite
Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: Unclassified NWA
Contributed by: Jean-Michel Masson
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