[meteorite-list] AD: Selling some of my collection (beautiful specimens) @ near 50% off market value
Hello list, I'm selling a portion of my collection due to some very important reasons that definitely transcend my desire to hold on to these wonderful specimens I must part with now. I am offering all of the following _at roughly 50% of the current market value_. If I'm in error with that figure please let me know if you so desire to consider to purchase any of the specimens I'm currently offering in this ad. Buyer will please pay shipping (priority mail with tracking -- and insurance if desired). Thank you in advance for your time and interest in my offerings! Mal Bishop IMCA #6819 - Brahin (Pallasite) -- nice, stable slice but with a few crystals partially missing -- 158.5g -- $634.00 ($4/gram) - Gibeon (Iron, IVA) -- gorgeous large etched end-cut (refinished by Bob Falls a couple of years ago for me) -- 2,524g -- $2,524.00 ($1/gram) *much lower than 50% of current market value - Tulia(A) (H5 Chondrite) -- solid and hefty 5mm thick Full slice (found in 1917) -- 462g -- $924.00 ($2/gram) - NWA 7654 (L5 Chondrite) -- Huge Full slice and only 3 or 4 were cut and polished like this -- really awesome medium gray specimen! (found in 2012) -- 492g -- $1,230.00 ($2.50/gram) - Covert (H5 Chondrite) -- Another spectacular large dark polished Full slice with tons of metal - most beautiful! (found in 1896) -- 478.4g -- $1,435.00 ($3/gram) - Sikhote-Alin (Iron, IIB) -- Very nice specimen (Fall, Feb. 12, 1947) -- 552g -- $1380.00 ($2.50/gram) - Buzzard Coulee (H4 Chondrite) -- Gorgeous whole stone specimen, 95%+ crust (Fall, Nov. 20, 2008) -- 35.0g -- $525.00 ($15.00/gram) - Juancheng (H5 Chondrite) -- Very nice crusted fragmented specimen (Fall, Feb. 15, 1997) -- 264.7g -- $1,323.50 ($5.00/gram) - Millbillillie (Eucrite) -- Very gorgeous 100% crusted, oriented whole specimen (Fall, Oct. 1960) -- 30.4g -- $304.00 ($10/gram) - Wiluna (H5 Chondrite) -- Pristine, clean 100% fusion crusted individual (Fall, Sept. 2,1967) -- 40.9g -- $306.75 ($7.50/gram) - Beni M'Hira (L6 Chondrite) -- Beautiful whole stone 95% crusted from Tunisia -- First Fall 0f the new century! (Fall, Jan. 8, 2001) -- 76g -- $228.00 ($3/gram) - Allende (Carbonaceous Chondrite, CV3) -- Whole individual with some crust (Fall, Feb. 8, 1969) -- 20.5g -- $205.00 ($10/gram) - Murchison (Carbonaceous Chondrite, CM2) -- Individual in display box (Fall, Sept. 28, 1969) -- 6.12g -- $306.00 ($50/gram) - Murchison (Carbonaceous Chondrite, CM2) -- Individual in display box (Fall, Sept. 28, 1969) -- 4.59g -- $229.00 ($50.00) - Bassikounou (H5 Chondrite) -- Wonderful complete individual, 97%+ fusion crusted (Fall, Oct. 16, 2006) -- 186.5g -- $559.50 ($3/gram) - Bilanga (Achondrite, Diogenite) -- Whole slice mounted in Riker Mount display box, Bilanga possibly originated from asteroid Vesta 4 (Fall, Oct. 27, 1999) -- 4.1g -- $123.00 ($30/gram) - NWA 5000 (Lunar Highlands Gabbro Meteorite) -- Very thin part slice, Purchased directly from Greg Hupe -- 2.0g -- $600.00 ($300/gram) - NWA 5000 (Lunar Highlands Gabbro Meteorite) -- Very thin part slice, Purchased directly from Greg Hupe -- 1.028g -- $308.00 ($300/gram) - NWA 7397 (Martian, Shergottite) -- Very thin slice -- 1.49g -- $298.00 ($200/gram) - NWA 10170 (Martian, Shergottite) -- Very thin slice with crust, 32mm x 22mm -- 1.86g -- $279 ($150/gram) - NWA 8632 (Lunar Meteorite) -- Lunar Mare Basalt, end cut Porphyritic Texture, thin cut -- 1.24g -- $480 ($387/gram) - Tissint (Martian, Shergottite) -- thin slice (22 x 21) with crust (Fall, July 18, 2011) -- 1.13g -- $524 ($464/gram) *Thank you again for your time and interest! * <http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11400.m1842.l5919/7?euid=3586a7ab168f4c3e930d3f74b0d2d63d=http%3A%2F%2Fpayments.ebay.com%2Fws%2FeBayISAPI.dll%3FViewPaymentStatus%26transId%3D1315666748006%26itemId%3D161196015690%26qu%3D1> __ Visit our Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/meteoritecentral and the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com https://pairlist3.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Animated graphic illustrates impact of meteorites on Earth
Founds this on Yahoo! news: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/animated-graphic-illustrates-impact-meteorites-earth-204547775.html Read short write-up at above link then click on the 'Bolides' graphic to go to the animation of meteorite Falls, or click on link below: http://bolid.es/ click on the timeline to see what fell when. ... a lot of work to compile the data, graph and animate! ...pretty, pretty cool! Enjoy - Mal __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk
Hi Linda, and Michael - Did you bid or purchase from a seller(s) on eBay? Did it happen to be either a seller called .a., or jevgenijss? Besides Mike Farmer, I've purchased from both of these sellers more than once (I'm speaking of Chelyabinsk specifically right now) and have had no problems whatsoever with either. The seller, .a. works with a dependable, and trustworthy fellow who lives in the Chelyabinsk region who goes around buying pieces from the locals as well as finding his own specimens. Since he ships them directly from Chelyabinsk when they are sold by .a. on eBay, it does take as much as 4 weeks or more to receive a package coming out of Russia ( almost a week or longer from Chelyabinsk to Moscow alone ) due to their antiquated, and extremely inefficient, postal system. If you did buy from .a. ( his real name is Michael, or his mother, Maria) did you receive a tracking number? I found him very professional, extremely personable, and above board, as well as his partner in Russia. Don't know if you purchased from either of these two I've mentioned, but if you did, I'm just trying to reassure you things should be fine. The specimens I purchased from .a. (aka Michael) for instance (since they were coming directly out of Russia and Chelyabinsk took 26 days to arrive safely in my hands. I purchased them on March 6, and didn't get the parcel until April 1. If it was .a. whom you purchased from, don't worry, he's got your back 100% if something should happen to your parcel and it doesn't make before the shipment arrival window expires as given on eBay. Did you read my little write up on the list a few days ago of how I got my specimens out of Russia? They were extremely well hidden/disguised to be smuggled out of Russia safely past unsuspecting Russian postal employees and customs officials who may have prying eyes and sticky figures at times. I wrote a longer (much too long) piece with photos that I sent to those on the list that asked for more details. If you're interested ( and like to read long tedious write-ups ), I'll email you a copy. At least the photos are worth it if not the narrative itself. :-) Wishing you good fortune - Mal IMCA#6819 On 4/5/2013 6:48 PM, Linda Barany wrote: I received the one from Finland in a very timely manner. I still have not received the one from Russia and it has been over a month. I was able to track it as far as Moscow and I have seen the final destination listed as U.S. The last notation is on about March 19th and then it states international. I have been in contact with the owner and he has already stated that if I open a case he will pay for the stone. I am going to wait another week first. I'm quite sure the sender is not at any fault. Linda Barany __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chelybinsk eBay price history
Hi Mike, Rob, and all - Well , I for one dealt with this seller (the one Rob mentions -- i.e. seller name .a.) plus one other from whom I purchased from in the past and have a GOOD history with, while the other was just on a whim/chance. Both came through excellently ( more than once) with the Chelyabinsk specimens I bid or purchased out-right. eBay seller .a. ( real name Michael ) and I have communicated numerous times and is extremely professional, friendly, and timely in all our communications. Michael ( .a. ) has evidently a very reliable, educated professional fellow, whom he has worked with for years dealing in Soviet era electronics, etc. (so they evidently know each other very well), going around the area in the strewnfield purchasing pieces from locals and shipping them out directly to the winning bidders while Michael handles the eBay (and money part) here in the U.S. -- specifically, California. I was very satisfied with Michael (aka .a. ) and the other seller on eBay I've been dealing with. I have purchased from 3 sources (including our own illustrious Michael Farmer ) and all the specimens I've obtained look identical inside and out. I do agree that the antiquated Russian postal service along with the iffy customs inspectors ( I was told many are ex Soviet era officials, etc. -- read KGB, and so on) make it a sitting on pins and needles sort of ordeal waiting for your parcel to arrive. It took one of my small packets from Chelyabinsk 25 days to arrive. I had a tracking number, but after the almost week long transit from Chelyabinsk to Moscow, and after it was shown to arrive at customs and 2 minutes later leaving customs, there were no further updates for 15 days. Neither the Russian postal service website, nor the U.S. postal service website showed any further updates until finally on the 24th day it magically appeared again on the USPS website showing it at our local sorting facility in Columbia, South Carolina -- before arriving at my local post office the next morning. The guy in Russia working for eBay seller, .a. does however have a very interesting way of hiding/camouflaging the little space rock treasures from potential sticky fingered customs agents and/or postal employees. I will say, it is EXTREMELY clever and smart of him. Michael ( .a.) told me this guy has many years of experience shipping out of Russia and knows a thing or two regarding how to smuggle things out of Russia and circumvent the officials that may not be so much on the up and up when it comes to performing their trusted and honored duties! I won't mention any details on the list openly regarding how the rocks were hidden from curious, prying eyes out of respect for the seller and his partner, but if anyone wants to know, contact me off list and I may tell you. :-) Not only do I have the rocks which were mailed directly out of Russia from Chelyabinsk ( with the registered mail packaging appropriately stamped and showing its point of origin), I also have the devices used to hide and smuggle the rocks safely out of Mother Russia. They are prominently displayed ( with the piece of glass and photos Mike Farmer sent with the VERY nice specimen I purchased from him) along with my several specimens of Chelyabinsk. What a story will be waiting for family and friends when they ask why I have these obviously/disparate/, out of//place items displayed along with meteorites. Mal IMCA#6819 On 4/3/2013 4:10 PM, Matson, Robert D. wrote: True enough -- for some anecdotal evidence, I opted to test a small amount of money to purchase a stone from this seller back on March 19th. The estimated delivery date was given as April 9-25 (by which time the price per gram will be down to a third of what I paid). --Rob -Original Message- From: Michael Farmer [mailto:m...@meteoriteguy.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 1:00 PM To: Matson, Robert D. Cc: Meteorite Mailing List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Chelybinsk eBay price history Just saw that. Not surprisingly the piece is being sold direct from Chelyabinsk. Buyers taking huge risk that it will arrive from central Russia. I think that rusk depresses price and bidding pretty badly. Michael Farmer Sent from my iPhone __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chelyabinsk - Hammers for sure.
Michael, and all - How would you know beyond a CERTAIN reasonable doubt that it is a hammer by the common accepted definition as followed by most ( at least on this list)? With all of the media coverage from the Internet to cable television programming, there are so many more people that are not only aware of meteorites but also the usually misguided (as well as extremely over-inflated perception) of the cash value any given fall ( or find) will bring to the one you recovers or deals in said rocks, no? And with this being said, how would anyone, even one of our illustrious hunters such as Mike Farmer, know with 100% reasonable certainty that a recovered meteorite indeed hit a person, animal, or man-made object when many of these stones are small, low mass specimens (i.e. than a few grams ) with many only 3 or 4 grams and much less in mass (many 1 gram or less) being recovered in very open, rural areas. What's to stop those unscrupulous, greedy types from finding many of the specimens dug from the snow covered countryside and picked up from frozen lakes/ponds, taking them, posing them on or near any given object, snapping a photo, and then claiming it hit their house, car, tractor, cow, what have you? Even with a signed affidavit, and photos galore, in the end, it's still someone's word and that is all. Especially with so many smaller, lighter pieces, would they even leave any physical evidence they hit an object, any object other than the ground? I mean leave dents, holes, fragmented pieces of the stone itself embedded in the object showing it may have indeed caused the said damage from impact as the owner/recoverer may try to persuade a perspective buyer/dealer? I wouldn't necessarily think so. Sure, larger stones with mass would, as proven in the past with several well known falls, but I feel this fall with all of its WORLD WIDE notoriety would be a hard one to convince someone ( speaking here of me specifically I guess) that for sure it hit anything other than Terra firma itself. ...and taking a strangers word -- who knows ( or thinks they know) what a meteorite will fetch monetarily, and what one that hits a man made object would fetch as being even more. I would be very skeptical. I'm not dissing anyone for their love of hammers and the importance they may place on a specific stone from a fall for it hit something deemed special while another stone from the same fall just hit dirt, but to me, any meteorite fall (especially freshly witnessed falls that are soon collected after their sudden deceleration ) are all important and cherished -- doesn't have to have hit anything special -- just the fact it came from above to now become obtainable (when before it was unobtainable by anyone other than NASA) by little me on this little planet is good enough! I guess I'm trying to state the fact that now due to so much awareness by the world at large of meteorites -- through the popularity gained from so much media exposure with the advent of modern communication technology made so available to so many -- this is beginning to become a problematic issue from here on. Except for the few exceptional cases that will undoubtedly arise here and there, I would state that the true, but well worn adage, /Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence/ ( as one of my personal heroes, Carl Sagan was fond of saying) really applies when it comes to the term hammer. I'll will close with the claim I've been know to be wrong, called ignorant, and uninformed, and I will go back quietly, and peacefully to my sweet hiding place in my little corner of the world. Kind regards - Mal On 3/30/2013 2:46 PM, Michael Blood wrote: Hi Michael and all, Mike Farmer told me that many individuals struck houses, cars, Buildings, etc, but that all the dealers he knew of (implying himself, Included, I inferred) were simply bagging everything together. I am continually astonished at how people out to make money Ignore their market as exemplified in this circumstance. Of course one would want to have accompanying photos and, if Possible car owner names, etc, but I would not hesitate to pay substantially More for a stone of this fall from Mike Farmer if he individually bagged And labeled it and provided a photo of the struck item - I wouldn't Necessarily buy such an item on eBay from an unknown source, but from Mike Farmer I certainly would (or any other dealer I know and trust). Furthermore, I personally know many other collectors who would pay substantially more for known hammer stones from this fall. (or ANY hammer fall, for that matter). I just don't get it. Michael On 3/30/13 10:18 AM, Met. Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, Rumor has it that the Russian woman struck by the stone has adopted the Mbale boy. Details at six. This meteorite fall should be considered a hammer fall, in my opinion. I know some
[meteorite-list] PBS NOVA Program, Meteor Strike (tonight: 3/27/13)
Heads up to U.S. resident members: Tonight: Wednesday night, 03/27/2013, PBS NOVA Program, Meteor Strike http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/earth/meteor-strike.html Mal __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] PBS/NOVA Meteor Strike program -- There's a DVD available for pre-order as well
I also meant to mention that the program will be available on DVD on May 21. It is available now for pre-order on PBS's website for $19.99. http://www.shoppbs.org/product/index.jsp?productId=20030006 ...looks like Amazon.com will have it available on June 18th. Will be another memento to add to your historic event collections! Mal __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] PBS NOVA Program, Meteor Strike (tonight: 3/27/13)
Hi Shawn, Robert, Martin, and all -- I may be totally wrong, but my understanding is this is a different program since it is a production of WGBH Boston producers of PBS programming such as NOVA, and since they mention they sent their NOVA crews to Russia shortly after the fall to document the event from all aspects. WGBH is PBS’s single largest producer of Web and TV content -- they produce programming such as NOVA,**Frontline, etc. so i think this is an entirely new and separate entity from the one Martin has pointed out. ...but maybe they used portions of the programing Martin is pointing out, or there was a collaboration, or PBS/ETV here in the US is in partnership with Channel 4 (UK), or whatever. It's hard keeping up with global corporate entities and their intermingling anymore. Our once seemingly large planet is getting very small very quickly in many ways these days. So many corporations have ties with each other world wide who knows what is what anymore. I tried to do a little investigating to see if there was a tie in to what Martin pointed out and see if Channel 4 and PBS (and WGBH Boston) had connections, but I couldn't determine anything one way or the other with the little time I had to investigate. Maybe one of our members can clear this up for all of us? Well, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong! :-) Mal On 3/27/2013 12:20 PM, Shawn Alan wrote: Thats kool, I wonder if the Meteorite Strike documentary will be the same as this one posted by Martianhttp://www.channel4.com/programmes/meteor-strike-fireball-from-space ? If so I have that documentary linked to my Drop Box and if you like to watch that video email me your email and ill invite you to the video :) Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 ebay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/imca1633ny/m.html http://meteoritefalls.com/ - Original Message - From: Mal Bishopmagbi...@lowcountry.com To:meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 5:59 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] PBS NOVA Program, Meteor Strike (tonight: 3/27/13) Heads up to U.S. resident members: Tonight: Wednesday night, 03/27/2013, PBS NOVA Program, Meteor Strike http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/earth/meteor-strike.html Mal __ Visit the Archives athttp://www.meteorite-list-archives.com/ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Exceptional nice Eucrite and a new Acapulcoite
All I can say is... in regards to Bernd: Amen to all of the positive responses for all is true in regards to this fine man! As far as the other party in this little bump in the road of life: sorry you're such a sad (and maybe a lonely) person to have to lash out with such uncalled for vitriol to a fellow list member who by far never ever will deserve treatment like you heaped on him!!! Maybe, life will treat you a little kinder then perhaps you may do the same in turn to others (especially the ones least deserving of such abuse such as Bernd). Try and smile, and laugh with a positive bent next time you get the urge to do this in the future. You may actually feel a little better about your situation in life. Just try it one time -- you never know! Mal On 10/5/2012 7:53 PM, Galactic Stone Ironworks wrote: Hi Michael, Bernd, and List, I strongly suspect this Bill is not named Connoly. The negative tone, the poor grammar, and the disdain for anything he deems spam screams out as another Bill on this list. I think this fellow uses more than one identity on this List and this Connoly identity is nothing more than a sock puppet for this juvenile-adult to vent his bottomless spring of negativity. I think most of us know who I am referring to. I'm sure he will try to email me after I post this, but I have blocked this person and his emails go straight to my trash bin. Bernd, you are a true gentleman and a source of expertise on this list. Please ignore this sad bitter man and let him wallow in his pile of Park Forest stones. Everyone knows that you are a genuine, positive, knowledgeable, and enthusiastic member of the meteorite community, and the fact that this person would send you such a silly and negative attack is further proof that this individual is mentally-ill and hopelessly bitter beyond all reason. I'll shut up now. I think this person has already taken up more discussion time than he is worth and he probably thrives on the chaos he creates. Let us starve him of further attention so he will crawl back under his rock. Just do like I did, block any email address he uses to contact you. Sooner or later he'll get bored and focus his vitriol elsewhere. Best regards, MikeG __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Display Cabinets
Bill, I use the frameless type display cases as shown here: http://displaycasestore.3dcartstores.com/Frameless-Glass-Display-Cases_c_25.html Minimal obstruction for a very pleasing view. Glass with hard durable melamine bases. Also use acrylic type cases with wooden bases from Jule-Art for a better seal for some of the etched irons that I wish to place rechargeable desiccant trays and VpCI (vapor corrosion inhibitors ) in. Mal On 9/24/2012 5:11 PM, Bill wrote: Hello everyone, I was just wondering what people use for display cabinets. I am looking into getting a new one and just wanted to see what others are using. Thanks -Bill __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] One hundred and forty-seven ago, Shergotty fell in Bihar, India... (ad)
Kevin - Very glad to hear about both of these near future releases of yours! I always look forward to your price list (i.e., The Global Meteorite Price Report ) updates -- and I'm looking VERY forward to the full 'uncensored' version of The Rise of the Raj and the Fall of Shergotty! :-) Thanks for all of the dedication and hard work you put into all of your efforts to make our hobby/passion that much more rewarding and enjoyable! Kindest regards, Mal On 8/25/2012 6:28 AM, Kevin Kichinka wrote: . and if you search the literature, very little detail is available regarding the circumstances of this August 25, 1865 fall of an iconic Mars meteorite. But that is about to change. Most list-members know that I have uncovered the complete story after literally hundreds of hours spent sifting through a thousand 19th century archived documents written by civil servants of the British Raj. I began collecting copies of original documents on this challenging historical event in 2003. Personal details into the lives of the 'players' were discovered only in the last months as it all came together. It is a wildly colorful tale like no other. I am certain that the story of the fall of Shergotty will assume a lofty rank among the legendary lore of meteorites. Background of the event has appeared in the May issue of 'Meteorite Magazine.' However the incredible conclusion, planned to honor the fall's anniversary, 'didn't qualify' for inclusion in this month's issue. No worries. Read on to the bottom of this message and see how you can obtain the entire fantastic story! *** Team Meteorite: re: scheduled release for 'The Global Meteorite Price Report - 2013'. Since 1995, I have prepared reports estimating the value of each meteorite in my collection. The results were a true snapshot of each year's market values and gave me an idea of over-all trends in price, availability and popularity. In 2005, realizing this work would benefit others, I began offering a more comprehensive report at a modest price to collectors and dealers with average retail values for 85 different meteorites. I expanded the survey to 121 meteorites in 2008. For 2011, I covered 185 species of meteorites plus the prices of their 'permutations', i.e. whether specimens were individuals, slices or fragments. Since I began this endeavor, each subsequent report has sold more copies than the last with many dealers and collectors becoming repeat buyers. I've had requests to offer it more frequently, but it takes months to compile and prices are not that fluid. I humbly believe it has become one of the most valuable 'tools' you can purchase to enhance your collection or dealer experience. I have begun to outline this next effort, and I will manually review over 15,000 individual data points having already identified 305 of the most popular meteorites to sample for dealer availability and pricing. The Global Meteorite Pricing Report - 2013 with have expanded coverage of NWA's, tektites and my always unbiased and pointed commentary on the present state and future direction of this hobby. I accept no advertising and favor no dealer. The multi-page document will be transmitted as an email attachment converted to Adobe upon my receiving payment in Paypal. 'Making lemonade out of lemons,' I will be including the full 'uncensored' version of The Rise of the Raj and the Fall of Shergotty. Expect to hear more about the price and publishing schedule of The Global Meteorite Pricing Report - 2013 in early December. From Nine Degrees North... Kevin Kichinka Santa Ana, Costa Rica mars...@gmail.com www.theartofcollectingmeteorites.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT: Neil Armstrong has left our world for the final time
Just heard on FOX News and MSNBC that Neil Armstrong has just passed away at 82! So sad to hear ...I still fondly remember watching him and Buzz walking on the moon when I was 14 and at summer camp in July 1969. Rest In Peace, Neil!!! Best to all - Mal __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] new book published: Henbury Craters Meteorites - AD
Hi Svend, I just wanted to take the opportunity to let you know how much I'm enjoying your book. It is wonderfully done -- incredibly researched, and just an extremely well put together piece! It's just a pleasure to read and will be an indispensable tool for future reference. It will sit proudly on my book shelf for many years to come! I just finished reading Geoff's autobiography, 'Rock Star', and was just fascinated from beginning to end with his life thus far. I can't even imagine what he will do in the decades to come still being so young and passionate as he is over our common interest of which we all share and indulge ourselves! We are so very fortunate to have SO MANY incredible people, from all walks of life and all parts of the globe, who are so dedicated and giving in the name of science by each adding their portion to the knowledge base. So many scholars, researchers, hunters, fanatics of the wonderment of why it all is just never ceases to amaze me. This treasure is growing so exponentially year in and year out, from decade to decade, that it is actually rather breath-taking if one thinks about it for a moment -- truly synergistic. The ability to put the love of learning, discovery, and expanding not only ones boundaries, but to help instill the same passions in others is a remarkable human trait and this group of people on our list have it in bucket fulls! Thanks again for taking the time and putting in the amount of work that it took to see to fruition a project such as the one you have so carefully, and lovingly, put together for all of us space rock devotees! This goes for all of you who have taken the time, and have the talents and skills, to put together something -- no matter what the form -- that adds something which enrichens the experience for us all. I'm not particularly talented at writing, nor articulate enough to put in written, or spoken, word what I truly wish to express, but I do wholeheartedly thank everyone whom I have dealt with in our community. Whether being to add another treasure from the outer-sphere to my collection, or the chance to obtain a new book full of exciting tales of exploration, and wonderful words of wisdom -- given out from example and experience, or mined from the dust of time long ago that was once new and fresh to the then explorers of their time. Unfortunately, many of us, me included, have to do our traveling and exploring via books, or websites due to our particular circumstances and individual situations in life -- but thanks to people like you, we can all share in this grand adventure together through your efforts, and all the other good folks, that make it happen for us all! So many wonderful books have been authored thus far, but many, many more are waiting there turn to come out of the minds of so many talented people. So many great websites devoted to our particular interest have been created. So many dedicated people doing so many incredible, and not so ordinary, work just out of the pure joy, desire, love, and the fundamental desire and thrill to know why about something, and then share what they have gleamed from their eureka moments with the rest of us, the chosen who saw the light from above -- literally in many instances! Please forgive my corny, over-sentimentalized minor treatise, but I just felt like it. :-) My most heartfelt regards to all my fellow travelers of both time and space, Mal __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Impressive Viewer Interactive HD Curiosity Camera.
Hi Count, That is most impressive ...and much fun as well to pan left, right in 360 as well as 180 up and down. Do you have a link back to JPL/NASA on the particulars of the imaging -- in other words, how it was actually pieced together, etc. I find it very interesting how you can see the shadow of the mast on the ground, but when you pan around on Curiosity itself there is no sign of the extended mast, nor even a sign of a point of origin from which the photos were taken. It is as if the point of origin for the photos were taken out away from the MSL -- a virtual point of origin I guess you could say? My simple mind would be very much interested in how this was constructed in the manner in which it was so excellently conceived and carried out. Maybe I'm really out-to-lunch, but I just see no signs of the mast, not even the base of it where it attaches to the rover. You can look straight down to where the mast should be and there is no sign of it -- just completely edited out. Something else, the crater floor is amazingly smooth, and boulder free just like you would expect from an impact result flattening the area inside (except for the central peak --rebound effect ) of an impact crater with all of the debris (large rocks, boulders, and dirt/soil that was excavated during impact ) to have been deposited out beyond the the crater floor at the crater rim and many miles beyond. Most wondrous!!! Thanks! Mal On 8/17/2012 2:23 AM, Count Deiro wrote: Hello Listees, Be able to interact with the HD image is as realistic as it gets. You ARE on mars and with the best images ever..http://www.360pano.eu/show/?id=731 Enjoy, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I think someone threw a rock at him
I sure envy his camera and a scale with the accuracy he either owns or has access... if I had a camera with the zoom lens capability his has, man, oh, man -- and that scale! He states in his description the specimen has a total weight of 45.6 mg ( 11.7mg and 33.9mg ), or 45.6/1000 of a gram and measures 1.75 inches long -- this most definitely must be a record for the least dense material from the outer limits to be a solid that I'm aware of -- lighter than a piece of popcorn and larger too! ...but to be serious, this is so sad, sort of funny, and very scary all at once. The Internet in general, and eBay in particular has made it so easy for the unsuspecting to either buy or sell (as we are all aware here). I wish those that may mean well and are being sincere (as apposed to maybe just trying to perpetrate an outright scam) would just do the very basics of educating themselves just a little before making such outlandish and silly observations. Where's the meteorite police? In ( temporary ) resignation - Mal On 6/25/2012 10:27 AM, Mendy Ouzillou wrote: This eBay listing moves from the meteor-wrong category into the meteor-you've-got-to-be-kidding category: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-unclassified-meteorite-/120938948685?pt=LH_Defau ltDomain_0hash=item1c2885e84d#ht_500wt_1413 I think someone got mad at him for making up another whopper of a story and picked up the nearest piece of quartz and threw it at him. Trying to justify the indignity of the situation, he decided that it was in fact a meteorite that nearly hit him. It's the only possible explanation ... right. Mendy __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] I think someone threw a rock at him
Hi Mendy and list at large, Hi Mendy, Yes, I know what he was probably trying to say, but he misunderstood like you said. But then again, if he doesn't know quartz from a (real) meteorite he may not know the difference from grams and milligrams, possible, yes? Anyway, I was just trying to inject a little, and poorly executed, levity on the topic. I was just being a little facetious...sorry! But you're right, no matter what -- zero times anything will always be zero ( insert 'smiley face' here). Still hate to see things so obviously wrong like this though and some folks just don't, or won't, try to determine legitimacy ( insert 'frown face' here)! Mal On 6/25/2012 12:24 PM, Mendy Ouzillou wrote: I think he misunderstood the local gold dealer and, based on the image, meant to say grams instead of milligrams. But heck, what's 3 orders of magnitude matter when a bazillion x zero (the value of the rock per gram) is still zero. Mendy -Original Message- From: Mal Bishop [mailto:magbi...@lowcountry.com] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 9:13 AM To: Mendy Ouzillou Cc: 'Meteorite List' Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] I think someone threw a rock at him I sure envy his camera and a scale with the accuracy he either owns or has access... if I had a camera with the zoom lens capability his has, man, oh, man -- and that scale! He states in his description the specimen has a total weight of 45.6 mg ( 11.7mg and 33.9mg ), or 45.6/1000 of a gram and measures 1.75 inches long -- this most definitely must be a record for the least dense material from the outer limits to be a solid that I'm aware of -- lighter than a piece of popcorn and larger too! ...but to be serious, this is so sad, sort of funny, and very scary all at once. The Internet in general, and eBay in particular has made it so easy for the unsuspecting to either buy or sell (as we are all aware here). I wish those that may mean well and are being sincere (as apposed to maybe just trying to perpetrate an outright scam) would just do the very basics of educating themselves just a little before making such outlandish and silly observations. Where's the meteorite police? In ( temporary ) resignation - Mal On 6/25/2012 10:27 AM, Mendy Ouzillou wrote: This eBay listing moves from the meteor-wrong category into the meteor-you've-got-to-be-kidding category: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-unclassified-meteorite-/120938948685?pt=LH _Defau ltDomain_0hash=item1c2885e84d#ht_500wt_1413 I think someone got mad at him for making up another whopper of a story and picked up the nearest piece of quartz and threw it at him. Trying to justify the indignity of the situation, he decided that it was in fact a meteorite that nearly hit him. It's the only possible explanation ... right. Mendy __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Robert Burnham
Dear Steve, Your message to the list regarding Robert Burnham and your relationship with him (as well as yours and Robert's relationship with Harvey Nininger, and Glenn Huss ) is a TRUE treasure and was a marvel to read! It is very interesting, and exciting, to know there is someone on our list who had known Robert personally as well as having the most enviable opportunity to work with such a stellar ( pun intended ) -- though a most under appreciated -- scholar/scientist of his time. I would love to read more of your times with Robert, Harvey, Glenn, and more on you and your remarkable career if at all possible. Have you thought perhaps to pen a book or publish papers/documents of your own history (i.e., photos, personal letters, receipts of purchases, and other relevant stories you have collected over a long career and passionate hobby , etc. )? I'm not trying to be presumptuous nor invade your privacy, but I'm sure there are many on our list that would agree with my sentiments on this! Well, I for one would be most appreciative of anything you see fit and are willing to share with us on the list regarding your experiences such as the one you just so kindly shared -- with your time and good graces approving! Kind regards, Mal On 6/24/2012 1:03 PM, Steve Schoner wrote: I happened to go through my old mybluelight account, which I still see is up, even though I canceled my account with them I noticed Message 21 on June 12th 2012, which I have attached at the bottom of my rely. I worked with Robert Burnham at Lowell Observatory from 1971 to 1974. I remember him as a very shy withdrawn man small house on Lowell Observatory grounds. I spent quite a few times with him after working with him and Norm Thomas on the Proper Motion Program where we cataloged various stars that had motions as seen against more distant stars. This involved using the blink comparator, the very thing that Clyde Tombaugh used in making the historic discovery of Pluto, the no so called Dwarf Planet (I still think it a full Planet though). That aside, as a person Robert Burnham was a very intelligent man. Among one of the smartest persons I have ever known. He knew how to read Egyptian hieroglyphics, had an avid interest in Abraham Lincoln, and was a virtual walking library when it came to the stars above. One could at night point out specific stars and he could tell you everything about them. And I remember the many nights we spent observing the stars using those great refracting telescopes at Lowell. One night in particular sticks in my mind to this very day. The opposition of Mars in 1971. We used the apochromatic refractor to observe mars in absolutely clear sky virtually free of any turbulence. No winds that night, and it seemed the air extremely tranquil, as if the air was not even there. The view of Mars was extraordinary, and as Robert and I observed the planet directly it was as if it were the size of a tennis ball at arms length. And that night, it was the only night like this, we could actually see over several hours that we observed Martian clouds drifting over the surface. I took several photos of it, with my 35mm single lens reflex at prime focus, but they are no where near what we saw with our eyes that night. Robert remarked,that he had never seen Mars so clearly as that one night. And to this day I have not seen another night like it. Robert was a genius, and knew his stars, and on his own time spent over 20 years putting together his handbook. I bought one of his hand bound Celestial Handbooks from him in 1972, It came in sections, as he then did not have a publisher. I have the first very thick ring bound installment, but not the rest. His meteorite collection I remember fondly. I went over to his abode many times to see it and his big collection of ancient artifacts from Egypt, and some items from the Abe Lincoln era. (If I recall he even had some notes that were attributed to that President). But it was the meteorites that really interested me, all obtained from our mutual friend Harvey Nininger. Meteor Crater irons, stones from Kansas, falls and finds. And during that time we both were in contact with Nininger and Huss, often sharing items in our collections and buying from them at the time. And the prices then were but pennies per gram, and I remember the days when the packages would arrive at Lowell, and we would open them at get our specimens from the Nininger-Huss lab (American Meteorite Laboratory) up in Denver. Harvey Nininger was living up in Denver wit Glenn and Margaret Huss at the time. I bought several specimens from Robert Burnham's collection that he got from Nininger's original lab in Sedona (American Meteorite Museum), which closed in 1961. I will have to look through my collection I bought a pieces of Rolla, Gilgoin, Monahans (iron), Clover Springs, Covert, Pasamonte. All of these came direct from Harvey
Re: [meteorite-list] Is there any religion that invites.... (Burnham's Meteorites?)
Looks like he's holding a specimen in his hand as well, yes? I'd love to know of the disposition of his collection as well. I like you, Mike, would give a portion of my anatomy for one of Robert Burnham's meteorite samples as well. If you or anyone has a clue please keep me in the loop as well PLEASE! After Kevin whetted my appetite when announcing he was selling his set of Burnham's Celestial Handbook ( I missed out on the ones he was selling), I went directly to eBay and purchased a hardcover set in very good condition to add to my library. Don't know why I hadn't purchased a set long, long ago. As much as I love astronomy and books, it just defies me why I didn't have Robert's work in my collection till now. Regards, Mal On 6/12/2012 11:59 AM, Michael Gilmer wrote: Hi List, One last thing about this Burnham article. If you go to the bottom of the first page, there is a link to part two of the article. The photo at the top of part two shows Burnham in his lab, surrounded by his eclectic collection. In the center is a white cabinet similar to a medicine cabinet. This cabinet is filled with meteorite specimens. You can clearly see them and their specimen cards. There also appears to be more specimens laying on the top of the cabinet. Does anyone know which meteorites these are? And does anyone know where these meteorites are now. I would give my right arm for one of these specimens with Burnham provenance. If anyone knows where I can acquire one of these, please contact me off-list and let me know. Such a specimen would have very special meaning for me. Best regards, MikeG __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Will Michael Blood please contact me
Sorry to bother the list, but I can't get Michael Blood's attention using his email account so I thought I would try to get his attention via the met. list. Michael, please contact me off list ASAP please regarding your book, 'Meteorite Market Trends'. Thank you very much! and sorry list for bothering the rest of you! Regards - Mal __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Will Michael Blood please contact me
Michael and list, My inability to be patient has caused me embarrassment yet again! Sorry for the unneeded attention brought to Michael and for disturbing others on the list. I'll try hard not to be so impetuous next time something like this comes up! I was just VERY anxious to read your book Michael! And yes I know, not everyone lives on the computer 24/7 like I seem to do most of the time. Most people have real lives! :-) Again, thanks for everyone's patience and understanding. Kindest regards to all - Mal On 5/16/2012 8:25 AM, Michael Blood wrote: Hi Mal, And to anyone else who orders a book. I was concerned when I read your post that I had missed several Emails for several days or something and immediately sent you the Information needed. However, I checked my PayPal history to see how long you had Been held up, thinking I would give you a refund if it was for weeks Or months. Immediately I noted your order at the top - which came in after midnight today (within the last several hours). All should be advised that I am not ALWAYS at my computer but will Certainly get to your email soon, as I check in several times a day. However, instant response is not always possible. Sorry for any inconvenience to anyone. Michael On 5/16/12 3:15 AM, Mal Bishopmagbi...@lowcountry.com wrote: Sorry to bother the list, but I can't get Michael Blood's attention using his email account so I thought I would try to get his attention via the met. list. Michael, please contact me off list ASAP please regarding your book, 'Meteorite Market Trends'. Thank you very much! and sorry list for bothering the rest of you! Regards - Mal __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Weston
At least one stone hit a building during the Weston Fall according to Nininger's, Find A Falling Star -- reference the 1st page of Chapter One ( The Path Behind ), 3rd paragraph, last sentence. Mal On 5/15/2012 2:00 AM, Shawn Alan wrote: I ment BENARES (a) :) as for Weston I love that stone cause its the first meteorite fall in the new world and help put Yale and America in the limelight of science in the international scene. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay store http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? - Original Message - From: Frank Cressyfcre...@prodigy.net To: Shawn Alanphotoph...@yahoo.com; Meteorite Centralmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Cc: Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 1:46 AM Subject: Weston Shawn, Please show me the reference that Weston hit some manmade object. I've never run across that and didn't see it in Silliman and Kingsley's report. I think that it's on Michael Blood's site but believe he's in error. Thanks, Frank - Original Message From: Shawn Alanphotoph...@yahoo.com To: Meteorite Centralmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Mon, May 14, 2012 10:05:57 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: MURRAY, LA002 Mars meteorite, NWA2999, Barbotan man killer meteorite, LUCE', Forest City, Barwell more meteorites ending on eBay soon! I am going to say my words and leave it at that on this Hammer Fall Stone Fall Hammer man made hitting meteorite definition As for the Hammer Stone Fall phase, I guess I did morph it by accident from Michael Bloods phase which is Hammer Fall, for some reason I thought he used Hammer Stone Fall but I checked and its worded as Hammer Fall when a stone from the fall hits a man made object. The Sutter's Mill meteorite fall is a Hammer Fall because one of the stones from that fall hit a man made object. That stone that hit the man made object is called a Hammer Stone, and I can see the confusion and thats why I changed it to Hammer Fall. So by Michael's definition when a meteorite hits a man made object that meteorite fall is a METEORITE HAMMER FALL. Documented Hammer Falls Sylacauge Barbotan L Aigle Weston Park Forest Paltusk Barwell and now Sutter's Mill From Micheal's website 1). Hammer - any individual which is part of a hammer fall in which one or more of the individuals struck an artifact, animal or human. Most of us hammer heads, however, will collect what is available from any hammer fall, though, of course, hammer stones, themselves, will be most valued. Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBay Store http://www.ebay.com/sch/ph0t0phl0w/m.html? __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day Take 2
Murphy's my best friend too! Excellent job, Paul... It looks very nice and it is good to have something like this to replace Michael's wonderful previous efforts! Thanks - Mal On 10/1/2011 12:14 PM, valpar...@aol.com wrote: Egg on face! Typical, though. In my experience as a software developer, the intro of a product invariably produces an error in front of the customer, despite the hours of testing that were done. The severity of the error and the probability thereof seem to be directly proportional to the square of the distance from home. Please try it again www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp Humble apologies. Paul __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ron Hartman
I wish to also offer my sincerest condolences to Ron's families -- his direct, personal family and his larger family comprised of us all who shared his love of this hobby. I never had the privilege to personally meet Ron, but I did share some wonderful correspondence via email with him over the years regarding our mutual love! He was gracious, extremely friendly, and ALWAYS very enthusiastic when it came to conveying any knowledge or information I would inquire of him regarding any and all subjects from membrane suspension displays to the several Canyon Diablos I would eventually purchase from him! It is really a sad day for us all and I feel even more so for us here in the United States! Not only a sad tenth anniversary of 9/11 to relive, but now to also associate this day with our community's loss of a dear friend, colleague, and family member who offered much to so many! With deepest respect and sadness, Mal On 9/11/2011 1:51 AM, impact...@aol.com wrote: Hello Everybody Tonight I have the very sad mission to inform you all that Ron Hartman, one of the inventors of the IMCA has passed away. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Silly-sounding Meteorite Names
...and most of the time they're too Covert ( H5 found in 1896 recognized by Nininger in 1929 from Covert, Kansas ) and not easily found to satisfy your Needmore. Mal On 9/2/2011 3:50 AM, impact...@aol.com wrote: But if you want a more appropriate name, you have Needmore, a chondrite, found in Texas in 1976. But, sorry, only one mass of less that 2 kilos. And No, I don't have any. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _IMPACTIKA@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 9/2/2011 12:25:21 AM Mountain Daylight Time, mexicod...@aim.com writes: Bill wrote: Is there any meteorite name that can really be tagged as being frivolous? I vote for the 1944 fall, Mike, as the silliest meteorite name of all time. (just so the Mike Web Ring doesn't go after me, let me specify, it is for Mike G since he started the thread!) Seriously, there is one frivolous name IMO, Santiago Papasquiero One letter was in error somewhere in the naming process, probably as submitted by Chuck Lewis to the meteoritical bulletin in Moscow. He was the Curator at the time of the ASU meteorite collection. It almost seems it was done on purpose... In the original language, a fusion of Spanish and Tepehuan (Nahuatl) language, it meant, The Preists of the Temple of the Eagles Talk about meteoritical butchery ;-) It now means when translated, James I want potatoes. Kindest wishes Doug __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Silly-sounding Meteorite Names
...and most of the time they're too Covert ( H5 found in 1896 recognized by Nininger in 1929 from Covert, Kansas ) and not easily found to satisfy your Needmore. (well, I tried :-) ) Mal On 9/2/2011 3:50 AM, impact...@aol.com wrote: But if you want a more appropriate name, you have Needmore, a chondrite, found in Texas in 1976. But, sorry, only one mass of less that 2 kilos. And No, I don't have any. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _IMPACTIKA@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 9/2/2011 12:25:21 AM Mountain Daylight Time, mexicod...@aim.com writes: Bill wrote: Is there any meteorite name that can really be tagged as being frivolous? I vote for the 1944 fall, Mike, as the silliest meteorite name of all time. (just so the Mike Web Ring doesn't go after me, let me specify, it is for Mike G since he started the thread!) Seriously, there is one frivolous name IMO, Santiago Papasquiero One letter was in error somewhere in the naming process, probably as submitted by Chuck Lewis to the meteoritical bulletin in Moscow. He was the Curator at the time of the ASU meteorite collection. It almost seems it was done on purpose... In the original language, a fusion of Spanish and Tepehuan (Nahuatl) language, it meant, The Preists of the Temple of the Eagles Talk about meteoritical butchery ;-) It now means when translated, James I want potatoes. Kindest wishes Doug __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OT: Sat Image of Irene Making Landfall Over New York
I thought some of you would be interested in this sat image -- especially those good folks who live in the New York, New England area, and eastern Canada: http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/image_feature_2048.html Irene Makes Landfall Over New York: This GOES-13 satellite image is of Hurricane Irene just 28 minutes before the storm made landfall in New York City. The image shows Irene's huge cloud cover blanketing New England, New York and over Toronto, Canada. Shadows in Irene's clouds indicate the bands of thunderstorms that surrounded the storm. Image Credit: NASA/NOAA GOES Project Wishing all of you the best during your time of recovery while trying to get on with everyday life! Best to you all, Mal __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] More evidence of building blocks of DNA in meteorites
Found this of interest: NASA Research Shows DNA Building Blocks Can Be Made in Space http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/news/releases/2011/11-60AR.html Mal __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Trying to contact Aerolite and Suzanne
I've been trying to contact Suzanne at Aerolite since Friday both by email and phone. I've received no response so far via email and everytime I call I just get Geoff's voice mail greeting and then I leave my message. The office apparently hasn't been manned ( or womanned ;-) ) since Thursday. Now when I call I get a message stating the voice mailbox is full! Has anyone else had a similar experience? I was in the middle of a transaction with Aerolite since early last week when I sent them a package and all of the sudden there appears to be no one around. The package has been waiting for them to pick up at the post office since Thursday, but the post says it is still waiting for pickup. Thanks, Mal __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Stefan Ralew and Martin Altman kicked out of IMCA for illegal activities
Dear Met List, IMCA, and Naveen, All I can say as of this moment in time is that I'm just completely and utterly SHOCKED and completely dismayed!!! I've dealt with Martin in the past (as so many have who read my post) and had nothing but the highest respect and regards for him as a dealer and a person! I just don't understand this at all!!! My heart actually raced as I read Anne's then Naveen's posts ...I'm still shaking as I try to type this post! Nothing more can I say, but if someone like Martin is involved in deception of this order and magnitude, it REALLY makes it hard to believe or trust in anyone involved in our passion! This has lowered my expectations in others to an even lower level than I could have expected!!! I don't want to believe any of this, but if the IMCA went to the extraodinary step of removing members in such a manner, I guess there must be irrefutable proof and extremely substantial evidence!!! With incredulous, and again, most shocked dismay, Mal On 8/1/2011 9:57 PM, Naveen Jain wrote: I just got the conformation from president of IMCA, Anne Black, that Stefan Ralew and Martin Altman are no longer member of IMCA. As you may already know, Stefan and Martin were systematically engaged in mail fraud and wire fraud. I was one of their many victims and decided to file a complaint against them with IMCA since they were both members of IMCA. Martin Altman had lured me in by lots of stuff by telling me that he was a board member of IMCA and I can return anything that I don't want or like. I have to thank IMCA board members for their diligent effort in investigating the complaint. IMCA board members unanimously concluded that Stefan and Martin needed to honor their obligations and act ethically as a member of IMCA. IMCA board laid out options for Stefan and Martin to honor their obligation. They were essentially asked to stop engaging in unethical and illegal behavior. See below is my official complaint to IMCA. As I said, IMCA thoroughly investigated the complaint and IMCA board unanimously voted to force them to honor their obligation of full refund. I strongly suspect that Stefan and Martin either sent me the either fake or low quality meteorite and were afraid to give the refunds for the garbage that they sold me under deceit and fraud of promising full refund with clear intent of not honoring the obligation. I am sending this note to warn all meteorite collectors to watch out so they don't become their next victim. I will be happy to provide more details if anyone wants it. I have consulted my legal counsel and probably will file lawsuit to avoid them from profiting from their illegal activities. I may also contact my friends at FBI to investigate their mail and wire fraud scam. - Original Message - From: I.M.C.A. International Meteorite Collectors Association questi...@imca.cc To:complai...@imca.cc Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 10:18 AM Subject: IMCA Complaints Your Name: Naveen Jain Your E-Mail: nav...@intelius.com Are you an IMCA member?: no Message: I am a new collector and purchased 9 meteorite specimens from Martin Altman (director of IMCA). Martin touted his being a director of IMCA to give me comfort and entice me to buy it from him. I specifically asked him if I will be able to return any item that I didn't like and he said that it's their normal practice and part of the German consumer protection law (see email from him below). The return policy on their website also clearly states the same i.e. a customer can return any item within 30 days for a full refund. i contacted them within 24 hours of my receiving the items that I want to return 2 of the 9 specimens that I received. They are now refusing to return the item and refund my money. I am now being told that I am somehow a business customer and my order that was sold from their stock as shown on their website is somehow a custom order because it was packed for shipping to US. I will like to refund everything to them if they have problem returning 2 out of 9 orders. Here is the email from Martin Altman: From: Martin Altmann [mailto:altm...@meteorite-martin.de] Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 3:37 PM To: Naveen Jain Subject: AW: Few thoughts.. Hi Naveen, As we discussed in the past, I am assuming that you will happily return any of the meteorite that I don't like after I look at them for a full refund. Nja.happily. perhaps not :-) ; But of course that is our business standard. And btw. here in Germany we have a strong consumers protection. By law we would be obligated to take back everything sold via internet, if the buyer returns it within 3 weeks. Warm regards, Naveen Naveen Jain Founder - Moon Express, Intelius, InfoSpace Board of Trustee - X Prize Foundation, Singularity University http://www.linkedin.com/in/naveenjainintelius __ Visit the Archives at
[meteorite-list] AD: Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites on eBay
I have a new, unread copy of 'Field Guide to Meteors and Meteorites' by O. Richard Norton and Lawrence A. Chitwood on eBay. It is one of several I purchased a while back for gifts for some friends and this copy is just one of two I had had left. ...don't need two copies so I decided to just put it up on eBay. Have a look if your interested. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130523381803ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT Sorry if this a double post. I tried sending this yesterday and didn't see it show up on the list so I thought I would try one more time. Regards, Mal ( eBay ID: parallel-x ) __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Matters Arising
Peter, although I'm a US citizen by birth, I must agree with both you and Anne on this ridiculous show of childish and sophomoric behavior, not to mention its potentially dangerous effects on some of the more simple minded types ( that may or may not be members of this list ) to copy such behavior! This sort of idiocy only goes to perpetuate the American stereotype in a negative light even more so than it may already be perceived worldwide -- not to mention it is even to the distaste of other Americans in various regions and cultures of our own country. I have a background and temperament fostered from childhood of hunting and target shooting of which I still practice shooting various types of firearms and reload ammo, etc to this day, some 40 years after my father first introduced me to guns and hunting ( although I don't much care for hunting anymore these days). With the out-of-control gun violence in this country and with both terrorists (domestically home grown, as well as form abroad) trying to destroy our country and way of life, I just don't get the humor, and bravado, in showing out with weapons of any kind -- most especially firearms like this...and especially on a list that purports to be inhabited by scientific, intellectually minded personalities and deals with a subject matter of a somewhat different nature! Last I knew this wasn't the Guns and Ammo list, or Guns Are Us, blah, blah, blah... I feel acts like these only go to heighten problems with our image worldwide, and also just make Americans more, nervous, paranoid, and divisive toward each other. All it takes is one stupid SOB to take it to the next level and then another needless tragedy manifests itself in the Good ol' US of A!!! Guns are a serious matter for serious minded people, not children wanting to play pretend grown-up, or cowboys and Indians, or cops and robbers, or whatever! Peter, please also realize that not everyone who has a hobby involving shooting, hunting, and firearms are all rednecks, or hicks -- although there are more than plenty of those around where I live to be sure. There are also many law abiding, good down-to-earth, hard working, freedom loving Americans as well that don't approve of this sort of silliness either!!! My respect and admiration to Anne and you, as well as others of a more sensible nature and discretion! Mal On 2/3/2010 4:19 AM, Peter Davidson wrote: Dear Listees I have been a member of this list now for less than a year. In that time I have seen some almighty stushies (Scots word meaning rumpus or row) and debates as well as a mountain of information and the forging of some great new friendships. However the recent postings on guns and arms has seriously depressed and angered me, and if anything has come close to forcing me off the list, it is this. I never thought I would see the day when I would be sharing correspondence with hicks and rednecks or NRA sycophants and apologists. Anne (Black) I salute you. Your simple, straightforward words are my only comfort. :-( Peter Davidson Curator of Minerals National Museums Collection Centre National Museums Scotland 242 West Granton Road Edinburgh EH5 1JA Phone: +44 131 247 4283 p.david...@nms.ac.uk www.nms.ac.uk Meet Your Maker, the creative minds behind Scotland's crafts. National Museum of Scotland, 29 January - 14 March. www.nms.ac.uk/maker National Museums Scotland, Scottish Charity, No. SC 011130 This communication is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the addressee please inform the sender and delete the email from your system. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of National Museums Scotland. This message is subject to the Data Protection Act 1998 and Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002. No liability is accepted for any harm that may be caused to your systems or data by this message. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Matters Arising
Peter, although I'm a US citizen by birth, I must agree with both you and Anne on this ridiculous show of childish and sophomoric behavior, not to mention its potentially dangerous effects on some of the more simple minded types ( that may or may not be members of this list ) to copy such behavior! This sort of idiocy only goes to perpetuate the American stereotype in a negative light even more so than it may already be perceived worldwide -- not to mention it is even to the distaste of other Americans in various regions and cultures of our own country. I have a background and temperament fostered from childhood of hunting and target shooting of which I still practice shooting various types of firearms and reload ammo, etc to this day, some 40 years after my father first introduced me to guns and hunting ( although I don't much care for hunting anymore these days). With the out-of-control gun violence in this country and with both terrorists (domestically home grown, as well as form abroad) trying to destroy our country and way of life, I just don't get the humor, and bravado, in showing out with weapons of any kind -- most especially firearms like this...and especially on a list that purports to be inhabited by scientific, intellectually minded personalities and deals with a subject matter of a somewhat different nature! Last I knew this wasn't the Guns and Ammo list, or Guns Are Us, blah, blah, blah... I feel acts like these only go to heighten problems with our image worldwide, and also just make Americans more, nervous, paranoid, and divisive toward each other. All it takes is one stupid SOB to take it to the next level and then another needless tragedy manifests itself in the Good ol' US of A!!! Guns are a serious matter for serious minded people, not children wanting to play pretend grown-up, or cowboys and Indians, or cops and robbers, or whatever! Peter, please also realize that not everyone who has a hobby involving shooting, hunting, and firearms are all rednecks, or hicks -- although there are more than plenty of those around where I live to be sure. There are also many law abiding, good down-to-earth, hard working, freedom loving Americans as well that don't approve of this sort of silliness either!!! My respect and admiration to Anne and you, as well as others of a more sensible nature and discretion! Mal On 2/3/2010 4:19 AM, Peter Davidson wrote: Dear Listees I have been a member of this list now for less than a year. In that time I have seen some almighty stushies (Scots word meaning rumpus or row) and debates as well as a mountain of information and the forging of some great new friendships. However the recent postings on guns and arms has seriously depressed and angered me, and if anything has come close to forcing me off the list, it is this. I never thought I would see the day when I would be sharing correspondence with hicks and rednecks or NRA sycophants and apologists. Anne (Black) I salute you. Your simple, straightforward words are my only comfort. :-( Peter Davidson Curator of Minerals National Museums Collection Centre National Museums Scotland 242 West Granton Road Edinburgh EH5 1JA Phone: +44 131 247 4283 p.david...@nms.ac.uk www.nms.ac.uk Meet Your Maker, the creative minds behind Scotland's crafts. National Museum of Scotland, 29 January - 14 March. www.nms.ac.uk/maker National Museums Scotland, Scottish Charity, No. SC 011130 This communication is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the addressee please inform the sender and delete the email from your system. The statements and opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of National Museums Scotland. This message is subject to the Data Protection Act 1998 and Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002. No liability is accepted for any harm that may be caused to your systems or data by this message. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT for Mal
Sorry, folks, but I'm just trying to communicate with Martin since we're apparently having some sort of email communication problems. Martin, did you receive my email from Saturday via my Yahoo email account? Mal On 10/10/2009 1:49 PM, Martin Altmann wrote: Your lowcountry-address still hates me - please send me a message from your other account! Martin __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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[meteorite-list] *** AD *** Large, Gorgeous Campo del Cielo Iron with coin, display case and more
A month ago I offered up for sell a 10,820g Campo del Cielo iron to the list. Although I had a few bites, in the end nothing gelled; therefore, I'll try one more time. Again, it's a 10.82kg ( approximately 24 pounds) Campo of AAA quality with deep pits, nice regmaglypts overall, and just a nicely sculpted piece. It is a very exquisite example of Campo and very, very stable! Campos this nice seem to lean more to the rare side of the scale, and those that know me and have purchased from me in the past know I don't lightly suggest something is nice, or exquisite unless it were so. I will include along with the Campo del Cielo meteorite a Campo commemorative coin/medallion (numbered), a handsome display case with a wood/acrylic base and acrylic cover, an iron meteorite element set showing examples of the 5 main elements which make up a typical iron meteorite, and 2 limited edition Campo del Cielo 3-D stamps (including 3-D glasses) printed/ issued in Buenos Aires, Argentina in their unopened shrink wrapped packaging . ... and of course, I'll also include the meteorite display info card and the 8.5 x 11 inch COA (certificate of authenticity) issued by the dealer I purchased it from a couple of years ago. BTW, the COA is gorgeous as well and very suitable for framing! I was asking $1800 for all of the items listed above which did not include the cost of shipping or insurance. However, I'm lowering the asking price to $1700, and I'm offering to pay the postage and insurance within the United States -- if someone internationally wants it, we'll have to discuss the shipping costs and come to some mutual agreement since shipping overseas costs much more than if shipping within the USA. I initially paid $2100 for the rock alone . The case and coin together were around another $150, the element set another $40 ...so all told this is basically a deal that cost me over $2300 when all totaled with shipping costs, etc. which someone can now have for $1700 total and complete (I believe in full disclosure -- not trying to make a profit, just pay bills) ! This is a steal of a deal -- I don't understand why really nice Campos don't seem to get the respect and admiration I feel they deserve! I'll send photos to anyone SERIOUSLY interested in talking deal. I can easily say this is one of my more favorite irons I've had in my collection since I started collecting in 1994. I wouldn't even be considering the selling of it (and now I'm basically letting it go for a song and dance especially with all of the extra goodies I'm offering with it) if it weren't for being out of work and mounting debt, etc.! Believe me, whosoever is the new owner of this piece will be more than highly satisfied and I think very proud to call it their own as they proudly put it up for display!!! Regards to all, Mal P.S. I may be slow in responding to any inquires for I have to step out for a bit, but be assured I'll answer emails in the order I receive them! __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] *** AD *** Large, Gorgeous Campo del Cielo Iron with coin, display case and more
A month ago I offered up for sell a 10,820g Campo del Cielo iron to the list. Although I had a few bites, in the end nothing gelled; therefore, I'll try one more time. Again, it's a 10.82kg ( approximately 24 pounds) Campo of AAA quality with deep pits, nice regmaglypts overall, and just a nicely sculpted piece. It is a very exquisite example of Campo and very, very stable! Campos this nice seem to lean more to the rare side of the scale, and those that know me and have purchased from me in the past know I don't lightly suggest something is nice, or exquisite unless it were so. I will include along with the Campo del Cielo meteorite a Campo commemorative coin/medallion (numbered), a handsome display case with a wood/acrylic base and acrylic cover, an iron meteorite element set showing examples of the 5 main elements which make up a typical iron meteorite, and 2 limited edition Campo del Cielo 3-D stamps (including 3-D glasses) printed/ issued in Buenos Aires, Argentina in their unopened shrink wrapped packaging . ... and of course, I'll also include the meteorite display info card and the 8.5 x 11 inch COA (certificate of authenticity) issued by the dealer I purchased it from a couple of years ago. BTW, the COA is gorgeous as well and very suitable for framing! I was asking $1800 for all of the items listed above which did not include the cost of shipping or insurance. However, I'm lowering the asking price to $1700, and I'm offering to pay the postage and insurance within the United States -- if someone internationally wants it, we'll have to discuss the shipping costs and come to some mutual agreement since shipping overseas costs much more than if shipping within the USA. I initially paid $2100 for the rock alone . The case and coin together were around another $150, the element set another $40 ...so all told this is basically a deal that cost me over $2300 when all totaled with shipping costs, etc. which someone can now have for $1700 total and complete (I believe in full disclosure -- not trying to make a profit, just pay bills) ! This is a steal of a deal -- I don't understand why really nice Campos don't seem to get the respect and admiration I feel they deserve! I'll send photos to anyone SERIOUSLY interested in talking deal. I can easily say this is one of my more favorite irons I've had in my collection since I started collecting in 1994. I wouldn't even be considering the selling of it (and now I'm basically letting it go for a song and dance especially with all of the extra goodies I'm offering with it) if it weren't for being out of work and mounting debt, etc.! Believe me, whosoever is the new owner of this piece will be more than highly satisfied and I think very proud to call it their own as they proudly put it up for display!!! Regards to all, Mal P.S. I may be slow in responding to any inquires for I have to step out for a bit, but be assured I'll answer emails in the order I receive them! __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] *** AD *** Large, Gorgeous CAMPO with coin and case
To anyone interested, I've been debating whether to let my 10.8kg CAMPO go or not, but finally decided I need the funds more right now than this wonderful piece. It is a very exquisite example of Campo -- very, very stable with many regmaglypts -- and sculpted by nature to resemble a boat sail of sorts. I am willing to sell it along with a Campo commemorative coin/medallion, and a handsome wood/acrylic base stand with acrylic cover for $1800 (or best offer within reason) plus whatever shipping may be. I'll be happy to send photos to anyone SERIOUSLY interested in talking deal. I can easily say this is one of my most favorite irons I have ever had in my collection since I started collecting in 1994!!! Believe me, whoever is the potential purchaser of this piece will be more than highly satisfied and I think very proud to call it their own as they proudly put it up for display ..Campo does not get much better than this piece will prove!!! Best, Mal __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE and VOYAGE! Magazines -- OUT OF PRINT ISSUES
I was going through some stuff and found 18 meteorite related magazines I had stashed away and basically forgot about -- 3 issues of VOYAGE! magazine which were published by John Walters and staffed by Michael Blood, Fred Hall, Hal Povenmire, and Ken Regelman, and 15 issues of METEORITE magazine of which 5 are still in their shipping bags unopened. Also, one of the VOYAGE! magazines is still in its mailing envelope and also has never been opened. The remaining 13 issues are in almost PRISTINE condition -- I mean no marks, no tears, no bends, no dog-eared corners -- as nearly perfect as the day they were printed and mailed out! All are in exceptional condition except for the issue of Meteorite! Feb. 1999, Vol. 5, No. 1 which has a very slight (and hardly noticeable) water stain at the very bottom on a few of the pages. It also has a few indentation marks on the front cover and a small ink mark or two on the front cover as well However, other than a couple of superficial flaws as I mentioned, it is like brand new otherwise. You'll have to trust me on this. I think everyone who has dealt with me in the past knows I'm as good as my word, and you can trust me when I say these magazines are exquisite! For those that are relatively new to the list, you can go to the Meteorite mag's website:http://meteoritemag.uark.edu/515.htm to look at the descriptions of the back issues I have listed here. If you wish for me to send scanned images of the ones I am personally offering, I'll do so, but it will take a little time to get back. I wish to sell all 18 magazines to someone and get this over with ( I don't want to go through what I did a few weeks ago when I was selling some of my rocks. I inadvertently ticked off a couple of people, and visa-a-versa) so I'll try and make this tempting to someone. I've seen these OUT OF PRINT issues go anywhere from $25 per issue to over $40 or more on eBay and elsewhere. I'll let all 18 issues go for $300 plus priority mailing ( which will be in a flat rate priority mail box and be $10.35 -- plus delivery confirmation for another $0.65 -- in the US of A). The cost per issue for all 18 is like $16.66 if all are purchased at once by someone like this. I'd like to sell them all to the first hard offer of $300, but if no one wants them all for $300 then I'll sell them for $20 per issue. I'll hold out for a while to give someone a chance to purchase all 18 before breaking it down to individual issues. Come on, someone give me $300 and then take them, mark them up, and sell them on eBay or whatever, and make a profit if you don't want to keep them for yourself! :-) The issues are as follows: Meteorite! Feb. 1999, Vol. 5, No. 1 Meteorite! May 1999, Vol. 5, No. 2 Meteorite! Aug. 1999, Vol. 5, No. 3 Meteorite! Nov. 1999, Vol. 5, No. 4 Meteorite! Feb. 2000, Vol. 6, No. 1 Meteorite! May 2000, Vol. 6, No. 2 Meteorite! Aug. 2000, Vol. 6, No. 3 Meteorite! Nov. 2000, Vol. 6, No. 4 (still in plastic mailing bag) Meteorite! Feb. 2001, Vol. 7, No. 1 Meteorite! Feb. 2002, Vol. 8, No. 1 Meteorite! May 2002, Vol. 8, No. 2 Meteorite! Aug. 2002, Vol. 8, No. 3 (still in plastic mailing bag) Meteorite! Nov. 2002, Vol. 8, No. 4 (still in plastic mailing bag) Meteorite! Feb. 2003, Vol. 9, No. 1 (still in plastic mailing bag) Meteorite! May 2003, Vol. 9, No. 2 (still in plastic mailing bag) Voyage!November - December 2000, Vol. 4, No. 3 Voyage!March - April 2001, Vol. 4, No. 5 (still in plastic mailing bag) Voyage!July - August 2001, Vol. 5, No. 1 Thanks for your time, Mal __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: METEORITE and VOYAGE! Magazines -- OUT OF PRINT ISSUES
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Re: [meteorite-list] Items for sale
To everyone interested, This is my second AD in as many days, but since I haven't posted an ad in a year or more, I figured I had some good behavior merits built up. :-) Anyway, I'm making everything I want to sell available for all to see (whether you want to or not :-) ) -- what I paid, what I would like to get, and who I purchased each item from. I'm only doing this because of my rather dire circumstances! I realize I'm not the only in this boat (quickly becoming cruise liner size it appears), and I truly wish each one of you well in all of your endeavors and daily lives!!! I recently lost my job (not the only one in that boat I know) and I'm a single parent raising my 10 year old son, Gabriel ( we lost his mother to a traffic accident 3.5 years ago), so since I was the only bread winner I had to make a hard decision and start selling these gifts from above that Gabriel and I both cherish so much! Hopefully you will see something you would like to add to your collection. I am still willing to negotiate a little on prices within reason, but as you can see, I've come down an incredible amount from what I initially paid for the stuff! I also have several meteorite related things to offer such as coins, an iron meteorite element set, and a few books left I will part with. The list of books and such will be ready shortly for those interested. As usual, and customary, I will send photos of any item(s) you may wish to see. As you can see everything is priced to hopefully go pretty quickly. Thanks and take good care - Mal IMCA #6819 METEORITES: Ghubara (L5 xenolithic), full slice with xenoliths, 374.4g -- paid $370, would like $250 -- purchased from Geoff Notkin Belle Plaine (L6), full slice, 378.4g -- from Monnig collection -- paid $1525, would like $1000 -- purchased from Geoff Notkin Sikhote-Alin, highly regmaglypted individual, shaped like a flying wing, 1,844g -- paid $1,800, would like $1500 -- purchased from Geoff Notkin SOLD? Campo del Cielo (silicated), full slice, 45.0g -- paid $135, would like $75 -- purchased from Geoff Notkin Campo del Cielo, full slice, 397g -- paid $150, would like $100 -- purchased from John Gwilliam Seymchan (siderite), etched full slice, 230.7g -- would like $200 -- purchased from Geoff Notkin Canyon Diablo, individual -- found by Marvin Kilgore, 2,713g -- paid $1350, would like $900 -- purchased from Geoff Notkin Canyon Diablo, individual, 348.4g -- paid $180, would like $100 -- purchased from Eric Twelker Dimmitt (H4), 38.1g, full slice -- from Monnig Collection -- paid $150, would like $75 -- purchased from Geoff Notkin Brenham, 175.5g, part slice from the Arnold/Notkin find of October 24, 2005 -- paid $695, would like $450 -- purchased from Geoff Notkin Sayh al Uhaymir 001 - SAU 001 - (L4/5), 62.2g, oriented individual -- paid $465, would like $300 -- purchased from Geoff Notkin Sayh al Uhaymir001 - SAU 001 - (L4/5), 62g, half slice showing two dissimilar lithologies (abundant chondrules on one half ) -- paid $62, would like $45 -- purchased from Marcin Cimala NWA unclassified, 1274g, nice fresh crust with very evident contraction cracks, fragmented individual -- paid $700, would like $450 -- purchased from Carsten Giessler Saint Severin (LL6), part slice, 13.3g -- paid $220,would like $125 -- purchased from Moritz Karl Zag, 56.95g (H5), nice fully crusted individual ( 98 to 99% ), -- $250, would like $150 -- purchased from Mike Farmer Zag, 722.3g H5), beautifully prepared end piece with rich, black crust and highly brecciated -- paid $800, would like $500 -- purchased from Eric Twelker Bassikounou, 491.5g, fragmented individual with really nice fresh black crust ( 60 to 70% crusted ) -- paid $1000, would like $500 Gibeon, 71.8g, etched part slice -- paid $89, would like $50 -- purchased from Steve Arnold NWA unclassified, 209.9g, 70 to 75% crusted individual ( crust quite fresh and black with some hint of flowing on one side in particular) -- paid $200, would like $100 -- purchased from Carsten Giessler Nininger Brick, 622g, from the wall of Harvey Nininger's famous (and long-closed) meteorite museum on old Route 66 -- can't remember what I paid for it, but I think it's worth at least $50 -- purchased from Mark Bostick Henbury, 17.4g, individual with Huss Collection number H66.307 -- paid $100, would like $50 -- from Rob Wesel NWA 4522 (LL 3.5), 13.7g, complete slice showing lots of gorgeous chondrules -- paid $138, would like $75 -- purchased from Carsten Giessler NWA 4560 (LL 3.1), 7.69g, complete slice nicely finished by Marcin Cimala -- paid $77, would like $45 -- purchased from Marcin Cimala Vaca Muerta, 24.6g, complete slice -- paid $75, would like $50 -- purchased from Rodrigo of Atacama Desert Meteorites Gao-Guenie (H5), 147.4g, 95%+ fusion crusted individual, oriented ( shield shaped ) -- would like $125 -- purchased from Eric Twelker
[meteorite-list] *** AD *** Many Top-Notch Specimens (and books) For Offer
Folks, *** Sorry if this email made it to the list once already, but I wasn't sure if my 1st attempt to send this email got through or not *** Many of you who have been on this list for a long time know that I very rarely have a sale. Since my interest in meteorites is being slowly, but surely, over-shadowed by other and much more important matters I've decided to sell of part of my collection. I need to liquidate a good portion of my collection -- so I'm offering the following specimens and books all priced to go hopefully very quickly. I'm not interested in making a profit off of anything listed; in fact, I'm offering EVERYTHING for substantially less than what I paid for them. All specimens are of the highest quality and I'm most certain everyone who collects meteorites would agree with my statement upon examining them. I purchased all of my specimens from the top name dealers in our hobby. A majority of these meteorites come with a beautiful COA that one dealer in particular prides himself on and I will attest these COAs are almost as impressive as the specimen itself! I pride myself on how I care for my collection over the years and all specimens have been kept in display cases with desiccant dehumidifiers and VCI (Volatile Corrosion Inhibitor) corrosion inhibitors. I have photos of many of these specimens taken by one well known dealer ( when I purchased them from him ) who is highly praised for his photography among many other things. I will email his photo ( plus if anyone wants a current photo of the specimen I've taken ) of any specimen anyone may be interested in. As per custom, I will of course supply the accompanying dealer ID card with each specimen, and if anyone wishes, a copy of the invoice showing what I paid for any given piece to further evidence how I've priced to quickly sell. As far as the books go, they are all either in mint condition to very good, and also priced to go fast! I even have a couple of catalogs, one from 1992 and the other from 1997, published by the modern-era king of meteorites himself, Bob Haag ( I say this to differentiate Bob from the all time king, Harvey Nininger). If Harvey was the Father of American Meteoritics, then certainly Bob is the son! I even have a collector's limited edition catalog from the notorious Michael Casper published in 2000. The catalog has a published price of $25, of course that stays in step with Michael's somewhat inflated ego as most would agree. This compared to the very humble and unassuming Bob whose catalogs had no price published on them, but did have a price listed in his literature of the time of something like $12 if memory serves. Anyway, the Casper catalog is mint while Bob's are very good as far as covers are concerned showing some minor wear with age, but the interiors are in emaculate condition. I even have a couple of Bob's price lists from the day (pre-Internet when people actually sent such things via postal service :-) ). The price on these catalogs and price lists are somewhat negotiable, but due to their rarity and condition, I'm not letting them go for free. Following is a partial list of what I'm offering: METEORITES: Ghubara, full slice, 374.4g Belle Plaine, full slice, 378.4g -- from Monnig collection Sikhote-Alin, individual, 1,844g Campo del Cielo (silicated), full slice, 45.0g Campo del Cielo, etched full slice, 390g Seymchan (siderite), full slice, 230.7g Canyon Diablo, individual, 2,713g Dimmitt, full slice, 38.0g -- from Monnig Collection Brenham, part slice, 175.5g Sayh al Uhaymir 001 (SAU 001), oriented individual, 362.2g -- plus 10 or so other specimens BOOKS: Disturbing The Solar System -- Alan E. Rubin Meteorites and Their Parent Planets -- Harry Y. McSween, Jr. The Robert Haag Collection of Meteorites (Private Collection Edition) Rocks from Space (2nd edition) -- O. Richard Norton -- plus 6 or more titles Like I said, this is only a partial list of meteorites and books I'm willing to sell. If anyone is interested, email for photos, prices, details, etc. I'm willing to haggle a little over price, but not much for I'm already willing to let MOST everything go for less than what I paid by a fare margin! I'll get back to any inquires as soon as I can, but I'll be tied up doing some other things besides sitting at the computer all weekend, so just please bare with me. Thanks for your time and interest - Mal __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The Tunguska Mystery--100 Years Later (article from June 2008 issue of Scientific American)
Not sure if anyone posted this particular link awhile back around the anniversary of the Tunguska Event, but here's a fairly long article on SciAm's website from there June 2008 issue prepared by our friends from the University of Bologna ( http://www-th.bo.infn.it/tunguska/ ), Dr.'s Giuseppe Longo, Luca Gasperini, and Enrico Bonatti: http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=the-tunguska-mystery-100-years-latersc=WR_20080701 some more articles pertaining to Tunguska: http://www.sciam.com/search/index.cfm?q=tunguskasubmit.x=0submit.y=0submit=submit Some may find something of interest. If this has previously been posted, apologizes. Mal __ http://www.meteoritecentral.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mystery illness strikes after meteorite hits Peruvian village
OK, does anyone know what this is about? Has anyone heard anything to validate either that the impact is credible, or the story in general? http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070918/sc_afp/peruhealthoffbeat OK, Mike, make sure to take a biohazard suit before you go! :-) Mal __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Legacy of the Parent Body of Asteroid 298 Baptistina
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[meteorite-list] AD: Forwarded from Aziz Alhyane -- subject : NWA Summer Sale
Aziz Alhyane asked me to forward this list of sales items he is offering! He has been trying to post to the list now for a week or more with no luck. ** Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:20:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Alhyane Abdelaziz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Hello Mal / subject : NWA Summer Sale To: Mal Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Hi9dbJNLhOGJ0NFYnrAPwLSVEsiK+55jg0rZHul8EXXHzE/0YDZgI4HRCUWQPsFaqAVwvs3JA87L05I0mzE9fX/rW2fRFMSDTzHDtLb3r8UzPI1VWMMwvQT6ZoY30ADk1Z6GJSneTTAX8lKtjrUGQwRUqRTKvHPWzuoucVC/jWI=; X-YMail-OSG: lk_o0HsVM1mbcpOG0AJwp0ZmMhaqXg319lTvuJHYDWjHonvw12P4mmz2qfREEbaoq5.5FNOEX0Q3KpQBWnKoIDghHAB7NUGOA0x6BhLt2e11Kg884lB_iTlD2dGs4pCe X-pstn-levels: (S:96.82765/99.9 R:95.9108 P:95.9108 M:97.0282 C:98.6951 ) X-pstn-settings: 2 (0.5000:0.5000) s gt3 gt2 gt1 r p m c X-pstn-addresses: from [EMAIL PROTECTED] [310/9] Original-recipient: rfc822;[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello List Members, I'm offering the following meteorites during the Two next days. - ADIO : the well known polymict brecciated Diogenite that looks like lunar; amazing two fragment, 596g : http://maijuin.free.fr/aziz_meteorites/Achondrites/DSC_0272.JPG - AEUC : A very nice eucrite, 360g http://maijuin.free.fr/aziz_meteorites/Achondrites/DSC_0296.JPG - Carbonaceous Chondrites CV3, very fresh with a very low TKW : 897g http://maijuin.free.fr/aziz_meteorites/Chondrites/DSC_0254.JPG - Another Nice C Chondrite, 438g : http://maijuin.free.fr/aziz_meteorites/Chondrites/DSC_0267.JPG - The Third C-Chondrites, 346g : http://maijuin.free.fr/aziz_meteorites/Chondrites/DSC_0271.JPG For any Interest, please send email to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] 1cm scale cube available
Yes, I just wanted to chime in to agree with Tom, Drake's cm scale cube is a beauty in its own right. A very nice visual aid for your photos, indeed! Like Tom also mentioned, the documentation that came along with the cube is definitely a very nice added bonus -- top notch and professional. Very well done, Drake -- Thanks! Mal At 09:43 PM 8/30/2007 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/25/2007 3:34:33 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The cubes I promised a month ago came back from the anodizer on Thursday. The letters are being filled with enamel today. They will be ready for shipping on Monday. I'll email pictures to those that are interested. I got my Drake Centimeter Scale Cube today! I know it's only a cm cube but it is a work of art. The best scale cube made. Drake even included a write up on it's correct usage. I don't know how many he has made. I think he still has some available. Thanks Drake! Tom ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: BASSIKOUNOU Fragments For Sale @ $2.50/gram!
Dear list members, As I mentioned last week in an email to the group, I said I planned to have 10 Bassikounou fragments up for sale. Well, I have 9 pieces up for sale currently. I'm only asking $2.50 per gram for all 9 pieces! The gram weights are as follows: 14.2, 16.8, 29.0, 43.7, 50.0, 50.2, 50.8, 85.9, 167.2 The crust on all pieces is pristine with metal flakes very obvious as they shine from the crust. The interior shows to be fresh with a very slight oxidation on maybe 2 or 3 pieces, but overall, very nice looking examples of this wonderful meteorite. For only $2.50 per gram for these pieces, please act quickly if interested -- they may sell fairly quickly! I received a good deal on these pieces and since I'm doing this as part of my small business venture/startup, I am willing to sell them for some less than is normally expected or found around! Please contact me for photos, and further details. Best regards to everyone, Mal IMCA #6819 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Announcement and Meteorites for sale ( Warning: LONG)
Dear list members, I would like to take this opportunity to make you all aware of a few specimens I have currently up for sale. I currently have listed a 147.4g oriented Gao individual, a nice little 98%+ crusted Zag individual, a 348.4g Canyon Diablo. Prices and some information on each piece can be found on the sales page. http://meteoritedreams.com/meteoritesales This is still a work in progress with some rough edges no doubt. Please let me know if you experience any problems ( I tested the page using Firefox and Explorer), or if anyone cares to comment/critique. Thank you in advance! I also have for sale a nice, relatively fresh 90 - 95% crusted unclassified 209.9g NWA individual which I haven't had time to add to my sale page as of yet. If anyone is interested, upon request, I will email photos. I'm asking $190 for it. As a heads up, I will have some fresh, fairly nicely crusted Bassikounou fragments from 10 grams up to 490 grams listed sometime next week. Nine or ten pieces in all. If interested you can either email me at the email address on the sales page or use this address. I can accept PayPal, checks, or money orders. Warning: Please forgive the wanderings of a middle aged man that follow - Thank you for indulging me monetarily as I ramble a bit. I know many of you are aware of me by name if nothing else ( for good or bad :) ). I've been collecting meteorites off and on since I purchased my first humble pieces from the defacto king of our passion/hobby/vocation, namely, Bob Haag, back in 1997-- like some many of you. I was smitten with these unearthly visitors since I was a child (actually, I have always been intrigued and in awe with all things having to do with space and all fields of science in general), but it was many, many years later before I actually became aware that a mere mortal human being could even dare hold such a wonder in his own hand, let alone own such a treasure! If memory serves me correctly (BTW, its service is becoming harder to trust more and more), it was in the back of an issue of Astronomy magazine that I first came upon a small unimposing ad declaring to anyone who cared - yes, you could own a piece of cosmic treasure for a mere few dollars. That ad of course was placed by someone I never heard of ( I even wondered for a while if it wasn't just a scam, and how did I know what I received - if I received anything at all - even came from space), but today, I'm very aware of, as are many, many people the world round, of the name, Bob Haag! Boy, looking at the hobby today, it is hard to even recall how insular, and small it was just a mere 10 years ago! I've felt very privileged to be a member of this list, correspond with so many members, as well as buy, sell, and occasionally trade with a number of members and dealers that frequent this list. Everyone I've personally dealt with in buying and selling over the years have all been first class, professional, mature and just a real pleasure getting to know and deal with! I could name so many I owe gratitude to for bringing such excitement and joy into one man's life. Starting with of course, Bob Haag, then Jim, Paul, and Michael Blood for this list, some of the first dealers I ever had the pleasure of working with; Rob Elliott, Geoff Notkin, Cathy Casper, Walter Branch, Michael Farmer, Eric Twelker, Geoff Cintron, Eric Olsen, John Gwilliam, Eugene Sharon Cisneros, Ron Hartman, Dean Bessey, Jeff Kuyken, Mark Bostick, Roman Jirasek, Anne Black, Andi Gren, Jim Strope, Carsten Giessler, Mike Bandli, Moritz Karl, Aziz Alhyane, Matt Morgan, Marcin Cimala, and others I can not recall at this time. I've also enjoyed just corresponding with the kind, sweet Maria Haas, the wonderful, kind gentleman, Bernd Pauli, Dirk , our man in Tokyo, and so many others I can't possibly recall at this time. I've been in and out of this hobby a time or two, mainly for two reasons, one was money, the other was my dear late wife. The former, we all can relate to, the latter, I sincerely hope and pray, none of you will know prematurely -- not until many, many happy, joyful, loving years together are shared into old age. Yes, I've always loved these crazy rocks that came from another time and place so alien to me as to be almost unimaginable -- well, to a child's mind anyway. Time would dictate the meandering of my passion versus the realities and circumstances of life here on Earth. I would buy, sell, trade, stop, then do it all over again -- time and time again as reality inevitably would make its stern presence known. However, with some personal issues I been wrestling with over the past few years, along with the loss of my wonderful bride 2 years ago, I have a wonderful 8 year old son who looks up to me and, much to my pleasure and pride, shares many of my passions in life! Therefore, due to him and in honor of him, I've decided to try and delve a little deeper into
Re: [meteorite-list] Walter's Bills and his Ebay Auctions
Dear list, I wholly agree with Bernd's sentiments and plea for all of us to commit an act of selflessness in a very noble effort to help, not only another human being in serious need, but in a very true sense of the definition, a family member. So want everyone, who can, hold back a few dollars you maybe were planning on using to make your latest acquisition and donate them out of compassion and concern to Walter and his family. As Bernd eloquently said, one never knows when it may be one of us, that may desperately need such reaching out by our fellow friends, colleagues... human beings with a soul. We all walk this path together, no man's an island, what goes around comes around... enough cliches for everyone. I firmly believe in Passing It Forward! When it comes down to it, that's really all you can count on in life... the like-mindedness of good, caring, and compassionate people... us! I'm leaving the pulpit now. I may be too altruistic, but so be it -- I'd rather be that way than the alternative! :-) Mal At 10:32 AM 8/9/2007 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, .. and I really mean *all* of us! What happened to Walter earlier this year or to Elton a few days ago, is surely the last thing anyone needs. But, these things happen almost daily, unfortunately, ... and the consequences can be excruciating! It usually happens to others, not to us, ... so we think but it may be me or you or her next time. Fate is unpredictable - Walter surely did not expect to become involved in such an accident - nor did Elton! Yes, Maria, my heart is wrenching to see Walter's fine collection pieces go to EBay. They should stay where they belong, ... in Walter's collection! There are about 850 list members. Now, if just every second member decided to donate, say 10 to 20 dollars, a sacrifice that our wallets or purses wouldn't even notice (!), the net donation sum would amount to 4250 / 8500 dollars !!! Just consider how much (literally hundreds and hundreds of bucks!) some of us are prepared to bid on the unique, new eucrite - La Mancha - from Spain, on Mike's Cali chondrite, how much I personally paid for my beautiful, little piece of D'Orbigny that I recently purchased from Marcin, ... Well, considering such sums, it should be an easy sacrifice to help Walter keep his collection pieces, to help his family find the way toward the bright light at the end of the tunnel, because, remember: ** A friend in need is a friend indeed ** And, who knows, one of us might be the next one in need! * 110 * dollars already donated ... not too bad, I'd say. Keep them coming, these donations! 850 list members, ... 850 = eight hundred and fifty, ... and one of us, a long-time respected member of this community needs our help, 850 members who could and should have an open ear and an open heart !!! Now, Ladies and gentlemen, Donate, donate, donate, Let's go for it! Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] AD: Ebay Auctions
Dear Walter, I'm very sorry to hear about you selling your treasures for such a reason, but I wish you and your family the best for the future! You may find a bigger pot of gold down the road to replace what you are sacrificing for now! At least I hope and pray for it to be! Take good care! We pray for quick and steady progress for a brighter future for you and your family! My kindest regards, Mal Link to Walter's eBay listings: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZbranchmeteorites At 03:53 PM 8/7/2007 -0400, Walter Branch wrote: Hello Everyone, Well, I have many medical bills to pay and not enough money to pay them. I got behind on one month on one Dr. bill and they turned me over to collections (thank you, Savannah Anesthesiology Consultants) and I can't tolerate that. I have decided to sell my meteorite books and larger meteorite specimens. I have a dozen or so auctions on ebay ending a various times and days this week. All the meteorite specimens are nice, some are superlative. More will be posted next week. I have to tell you, it is breaking my heart to sell these but providing for your family comes first. I have no idea how to create a link to my auctions but if you are interested, just do a search for ebay seller branchmeteorites Thanks, -Walter Branch __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Lost Meteorites(?) Announcing new Strewn Field in Pennsylvania
Elton, let me please say first of all, I'm very glad to hear you weren't seriously hurt or dare say, worse! I'm very sorry to hear about you collection as well, but even as precious as they are to us, they certainly are of less concern than ones well being! I hope you can recover most, if not all, of your valuable collection. If I lived in your neck of the woods, I would gladly be willing to help you the best I could! Take care, and best to you in both your personal recovery, and regaining possession of your meteorites and mineral specimens! Mal At 10:30 AM 8/5/2007 -0700, you wrote: The good news is I escaped with my cell phone, shoes glasses, underwear, and most of my blood and bodily tissues. The bad news (which includes meteorite related issues) everything else is in the wreckage. Late Friday night minding my own business driving down a 4 lane road my truck and trailer was totaled by an impaired driver who thought I had some gall to be in his drag racing lane. I did all kinds of Demolition Derby quality manuevers but near the end it was me following my cargo trailer down the highway not vice versa. For all of 1 second I was thinking. Hey! Not a bad moonshiners turn I can get this rig stopped--NOT. The trailer rolled to the driver's side, taking the truck with it. As I skidded along watching road gravel bounce off my nose I wasn't concerned about my life but was worried about my meteorite collection's survival. I remain worried because everything was catapulted onto the roadside and down an embankment. They won't let me see what was recovered until Monday morning but did say that lots of small things weren't picked up. I was transporting my meteorite collection around 400 specimens plus several cases of mineral specimens. So you are the first to hear about the latest strewn field location. Since the wreck was an observed event does this make them falls or finds? Aside from writing the list to lament this ouch, I may need help in the Allentown PA area recovering and sorting. If anyone might have some spare time local to the area to help look for the pieces please let me know and I'll share location with you. I am not up to walking much but hope to start some searching Tuesday. Lucky to still be a collector, Elton __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [OFFTOPIC] the ugly weathered chondrite AD? DISGUISED?
Your right, Charlie, it is linked to that site -- and it finally proves to me once and for all beyond a doubt, being a member of this group is like a crap shot. :-) Mal At 09:21 PM 8/4/2007 -0400, you wrote: I don't know about anyone else, but when I click on www.meteoritetimes.com to check the list rules, I get taken to Bettingways: Your Online Gambling Guide:-(. Now THATS spam Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] [OFFTOPIC] the ugly weathered chondrite AD? DISGUISED?
Thank you, Mike -- Yes, I think most of us know that, but Jason linked to www.meteoritetimes.com instead of www.meteoritecentral.com when he was making reference to the 8 rules guide line. Regardless though, the link to www.meteoritetimes.com is incorrect, and does go to a gambling related site. At 06:58 PM 8/4/2007 -0700, Michael Farmer wrote: I hate to tell you this, but www.meteoritetimes.com has nothing to do with this list, this is the www.meteoritecentral.com list. if you go to www.meteoritecentral.com then you can find the rules for this list. That might help a little. Michael Farmer --- Mal Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your right, Charlie, it is linked to that site -- and it finally proves to me once and for all beyond a doubt, being a member of this group is like a crap shot. :-) Mal At 09:21 PM 8/4/2007 -0400, you wrote: I don't know about anyone else, but when I click on www.meteoritetimes.com to check the list rules, I get taken to Bettingways: Your Online Gambling Guide:-(. Now THATS spam Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Correct URL www.meteorite-times.com and FYI
Thank you, Paul, for the correct link to Meteorite Times. I didn't check it closely before crying wolf. Well, don't want to post anymore now anyway for fear of being jumped on for using bandwidth unnecessarily. Seems only some good, high brow type folks are allowed to post whenever, whatever they choose and please while some others are smeared on, insulted, harassed, intimidated, and/or made fun of! At 07:09 PM 8/4/2007 -0700, Paul Harris wrote: Dear List, The correct URL to meteorite-times is http://www.meteorite-times.com. We are still waiting for a few articles but the August MT should be up in a couple of days. Michael Blood - Thank you for the info on the age of meteorite-list!! Mal Bishop - Thanks for the thanks!! Paul Charlie Devine wrote: I don't know about anyone else, but when I click on www.meteoritetimes.com to check the list rules, I get taken to Bettingways: Your Online Gambling Guide:-(. Now THATS spam Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite List actual age
I thoroughly agree with Alex. A big THANK YOU to Art and Michael for starting something that will most likely endure for as long as things drop from the skies above. Also, a big, kind thank you to Paul, Jim -- for that matter, to everyone, past and present, who have made this list as memorable (and dare I say, addicting) as it is. Even with all of its ups and downs, and myriad of personalities and characters, it is one of the better examples of both education and entertainment converging into one entity. May I call it, edutainment? ;-) Best to all, and thanks for the ride thus far - Mal At 05:48 PM 8/2/2007 +0200, Alexander Seidel wrote: Thank you Michael, thank you Art - for a good idea, for a lot of patience with people, for... THE LIST! From one of the oldtimers (..ever here since 1997/1998), Alex Berlin/Germany Original-Nachricht Datum: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 08:28:01 -0700 Von: Michael L Blood [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: bcmeteorites [EMAIL PROTECTED], Robert Woolard [EMAIL PROTECTED], Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite List actual age Hi Bob, Here is A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE LIST: -- Art, who was then the purchasing agent for the store at the Planetarium, across from the Natural History Museum in Balboa Park had been offering meteorites for sale, which for several years Had been purchased from me. However, Art's real passion was Web design and he thought it would be cool to have a weekly Meteorite Forum and asked me to host it. This format later became Known as chat rooms - but Art envisioned it more as a radio Show with me as the host. I was confident even before the first Send off that once people started talking a host would not be Relevant, but I certainly felt honored and wanted to support Art in this endeavor and bolster his confidence in initiating this Forum, so, happily agreed. Our first Meteorite Forum was held just days after the ALH 84001 announcement on August 6, 1996. As I recall, there Were only 5 or 6 of us on the first chat which included Paul Harris And Jim Tobin of Meteorite Exchange and current editors of METEORITE TIMES, Rick Kujawa, me and a few others who escape My memory for now. Please do forgive me for my feeble memory - and do feel free to chime in and announce your having been there. Of course, that first session was filled with the excitement of Martian life revealed in a meteorite - it wasn't until later the Findings came under question. In any event, within weeks or a few months at most Art decided a Live list would be a better forum and I agreed (not that I had a real Say in it, though he did bounce ideas off of me when it came to meteorites). So, that was the birth of the list. My guess would be October (perhaps November) of 1996 saw the launching of the list as it is known today. Other than increased numbers of participants, the list has remained the same since day one. Over the years there have been periodic complaints about the Lack of use of suspensions and expulsions from the list on the part Of Art. In fact, Art has been very consistent in being slow to suspend Participants and slow in allowing them back on. Various list members Have been barred and most have eventually been allowed to return. I won't go into names as some of them are still on the list. However, Even this limited control has been sabotaged by Matteo who, when Ejected, created false identities and blatantly taunted list members and Art about his clever manipulations of the internet and thumbed His nose at everyone. The point is, Art has done a spectacular job in monitoring the List and has ejected a good number of people - mostly when their Language became obscene and they were blatantly and relentlessly attacking other List members or ripping people off. With the exception of Matteo, Art's patient guidance has served the list well. Thanks to Art, we have this magnificent forum with which we Can keep abreast of meteoritic events such as the adventures of Mike, Bob Robert in recovering the Cali Meteorite, etc. We get THE strait poop AS IT IS HAPPENING. We be a lucky group. Best wishes, Michael on 8/1/07 6:10 PM, bcmeteorites at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List I would also like to thank Art for everything he does to keep this list up and running!! I have only been reading the list for a few months and find the information provided by the list members outstanding. Everything from following members on their trips to shows that many of us can not attend, the tips,information, ads, etc, and following the travels of the meteorite hunters that take the time and post their adventures as they unfold on the list. Thanks to everyone for their positive contributions and sharing of information!!! Sincerely, Bob Falls Colorado -Original Message-
Re: [meteorite-list] Cali chondrite fell extremely cold!
Replying to Chris' email regarding Canyon Diablo, Mike and Cali, et al, I, just by happenstance, found this information regarding Barringer Meteorite Crater (aka Meteor Crater) relating to the destructive effects of the impact. It describes the results of the impact on the local topography, biosphere, etc. I never saw this particular site before for some reason, maybe some others on this list haven't either. On the other hand, there are probably many of you on the list who are aware of it -- if this was posted previously within the past few months or so, forgive me. http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/SIC/impact_cratering/Enviropages/Barringer/barringerstartpage.html http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/SIC/impact_cratering/Enviropages/wildfires.html http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/SIC/impact_cratering/Enviropages/Barringer/Megafauna.html I found this map most interesting and informative ( I need visual aids g ): http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/SIC/impact_cratering/Enviropages/Barringer/effectsmappage.html It pictorially demonstrates the affect impact/blast had on local environment I initially was doing some research on the local environment of northern Arizona as it was some 50,000 years ago before and after the 50 meter impactor made its presence known. It just makes me shudder just a little every time when I really take the time to ponder something like this impacting us today, in or near any populated area, let alone something on the magnitude of what struck some 65 million years ago on the Yucatan Peninsula. Well anyway, some more info for either your archived reference files, or your file 13 (also known as the circular file). The choice is yours. :-) Best regards, Mal At 01:51 PM 7/30/2007 -0600, Chris Peterson wrote: Interesting, but I certainly do not believe that a meteorite can start a fire, unless it ruptures a gas tank or something like that. I'll bet Canyon Diablo started a few fires. And as for Chicxulub... g Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Randy Korotev [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Cali chondrite fell extremely cold! Interesting, but I certainly do not believe that a meteorite can start a fire, unless it ruptures a gas tank or something like that. Michael Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Cali chondrite fell extremely cold!
Mike, I knew you weren't talking extinction event type impacts, I just brought this info to light for those you would find it of interest since the topic at hand was about impacts, hot or cold, and I happen to just recall I had reference to it. Since the talk is about meteorite impacts in general being hot,cold, or just right -- I thought it would be sort of relevant even if by a stretch. :-) Mal At 03:38 PM 7/30/2007 -0700, Michael Farmer wrote: Of course, crater-forming meteorites would start fires, I mean meteorite falls in general. Crater- forming extinction-causing meteorites are not what I am talking about. Michael Farmer --- Mal Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Replying to Chris' email regarding Canyon Diablo, Mike and Cali, et al, I, just by happenstance, found this information regarding Barringer Meteorite Crater (aka Meteor Crater) relating to the destructive effects of the impact. It describes the results of the impact on the local topography, biosphere, etc. I never saw this particular site before for some reason, maybe some others on this list haven't either. On the other hand, there are probably many of you on the list who are aware of it -- if this was posted previously within the past few months or so, forgive me. http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/SIC/impact_cratering/Enviropages/Barringer/barringerstartpage.html http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/SIC/impact_cratering/Enviropages/wildfires.html http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/SIC/impact_cratering/Enviropages/Barringer/Megafauna.html I found this map most interesting and informative ( I need visual aids g ): http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/SIC/impact_cratering/Enviropages/Barringer/effectsmappage.html It pictorially demonstrates the affect impact/blast had on local environment I initially was doing some research on the local environment of northern Arizona as it was some 50,000 years ago before and after the 50 meter impactor made its presence known. It just makes me shudder just a little every time when I really take the time to ponder something like this impacting us today, in or near any populated area, let alone something on the magnitude of what struck some 65 million years ago on the Yucatan Peninsula. Well anyway, some more info for either your archived reference files, or your file 13 (also known as the circular file). The choice is yours. :-) Best regards, Mal At 01:51 PM 7/30/2007 -0600, Chris Peterson wrote: Interesting, but I certainly do not believe that a meteorite can start a fire, unless it ruptures a gas tank or something like that. I'll bet Canyon Diablo started a few fires. And as for Chicxulub... g Chris * Chris L Peterson Cloudbait Observatory http://www.cloudbait.com - Original Message - From: Michael Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Randy Korotev [EMAIL PROTECTED]; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Cali chondrite fell extremely cold! Interesting, but I certainly do not believe that a meteorite can start a fire, unless it ruptures a gas tank or something like that. Michael Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] unclean gao givaway
My simple question is: where is the moderator, or why is there no moderator! I remember way back, some 4 years and more, when a certain then list member named Joel Warren, I believe, kept showing his rudeness, contempt, and unwillingness to get along and obey the house rules he was shown the door. Also, there was a certain other individual named Michael Casper whom was shown the same door. Looks like that is no longer an option. Why not a little tighter reign here. Who's suppose to be pulling in the reins a little from time to time? I don't see anything. I just wanted to fit in, contribute, and learn, but with all of the children on board it is nearly, if not completely, impossible! I make no bones that there are those on this list that are childish, inconsiderate, some rude, some just plain dense without a clue. I'm sick and tired of the childish and very silly responses given to responses, and some of the ridiculous posts that pop up in the first place. I don't know why this list is so out of control sometimes -- this list definitely proves people do love watching a good train wreck. Other forums, and lists I am, or have been, a member of are so much more controlled and regulated -- they just don't allow or tolerate such crap! All of this childish, baby, school yard bickering, etc. ...it's like a school of sharks or piranha after smelling blood. I know why I left this list 4 years ago, and certainly don't know why I came back and tried to join in. I see perfectly that this list is for the hotshots, the in-crowd -- sort of like high school was. I know I sound like a whiner, and my skins too thin -- sorry, forgive me, I'm the one who has to live with it, but I swear this list really puts a damper on the thrill and joy of an otherwise very exciting hobby. In all fairness, there are those that are well above the fray who cohabit this list -- well beyond reproach, but then again, too many on the opposite end of the spectrum as well! I look up with respect to the good natured, well healed listees; however, the other sort of breed, plain and simply, are just a drag, The anonymity of the Internet and the associated forums, and email lists have really contributed to the overall lack of decorum, respect, dignity, and self control that I dare the vast majority of people would not show if communicating face-to-face with one another. It also seems to me this list is a microcosm for the endemic plague that is infested most all of cultured and civilized peoples the world over, not just here in the US. There I have spoke my mind -- let's see who the grown-ups are on the list versus the children. With my respect and dignity in check, Mal At 01:40 AM 7/26/2007 +0100, Mark Crawford wrote: drtanuki wrote: Mark, Have you bothered to read the post by Bill and Ken Newton of Steve`s history of posts? Yes. And I searched the archives. I actually read through the archives before I signed up for the list. In fact, I signed up for the list /despite/ the content of the archives (and I ain't just talking about Steve here). I signed up because I wanted to learn more about meteorites (sorry to drag things down to that level). Steve is more than a mere annoyance! I have nothing personal against Steve as a human being, but I certainly do about his List behavior. So he's a good human being, but whenever he posts to the list you want to do violence. There's certainly an issue there. And no, I will not cease to comment Good grief - as a Scotsman living in England, I wouldn't dream of challenging your 1st amendment rights, even if you don't reside in the US. Some things are universal :) Other things I believe are universal include treating people with different views, backgrounds, beliefs (and personalities) with respect. READ HIS OWN words, and IF you are still in doubt check the list archives. I am certainly not the only one on this list that enjoys Steve`s great contributions to this list... Steve`s history is below. Thank you Bill for kindly gleaning the archives; there about another 300+?? Read your own words, and decide if you're really focusing on the right things. I'm really, really not being flippant - we've all got families, jobs, mortgages, kids... if (collectively) you've got time to pore over, collate, precis, and repost 300+ postings from one individual who you have an issue with, are you really telling me you can't think of a better use of your time? Sometimes we just need to get outside and smell the flowers. More in hope than expectation, Mark __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: 115.7g Bassikounou looking for a home
I have a nice, extremely fresh, fully crusted 115.7g Bassikounou individual for sale, and compared to what most are selling for, this is a true bargain! If anyone is interested, contact me off list for photos and price. With kind regards, Mal IMCA #6819 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Attempted robbery, I am coming home.
Mike, Please come home safely and quickly for goodness sake!!! There are few things worth your life in this world other than family and friends! Forget meteorites, you and Robert get your butts home fast, safe, and sound - PRONTO At 01:14 PM 7/25/2007 -0700, you wrote: Well, only hours after writing about how unsafe it is here in the Cali meteorite strewnfield, I now must write that only two hours ago I had a gun pointed at me and my friends in an attempted robbery/kidnapping. Robert and I were with a local astronomy group, in the barrios where the meteorites fell, and we spent the morning with two groups of news reporters, one for the El Pais newspaper, and one for a Colombian national TV station. We were warned several times to leave the area by the locals. After doing some interviews and photo ops hunting and talking with people, we got into two taxis and left to meet at a place for lunch. I was with two of the Colombian astronomy club members and as we tried to drive through a barrio just near where one of the stones was found, a man ran at the taxi with a large gun scraming at us to stop. I saw the people in the front of the taxi duck down and then saw the gunman running at us. The driver hit the gas and we swerved around him, but the gun was about 1 meter from my head. He did not fire thank god, but what a scare, we quickly tried to get out of the neigborhood and told police who ran to the place but we have no idea what happened later. We just fled. We are done here, it is clearly not safe enough to stay, Robert and I both have collection pieces, and having a gun near your head is enough to know when to call it even and go home. I am a little shook up right now, will write more about the meteorite later today or tonight. I already have a flight home tomorrow morning and plan to get out of Dodge as fast as possible. Those of you who don't hunt meteorites should appreciate the danger that those of us who do hunt, face in some of these countries. Michael Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Catalog of the recovered Bassikounou masses released
Dear Svend and Mathias, I can't say it with any more appreciation and acclaim than everyone else who've already thanked you both for your extremely diligent, singular work on Bassikounou. Your Descriptive Catalog on the Recovered Masses of the Bassikounou Meteorite Fall is simply astounding! I immediately downloaded it, printed it, and I'm presently in the process, with excitement, digesting it all! Both your descriptive catalog and your account of the fall presented on your website will hopefully give impetus to those in the future to present such similar detail when researching and documenting subsequent falls and even finds for that matter when possible! I've printed out both works and placed them in a binder to sit along side my other reference materials. Danke sehr, Mal At 02:36 PM 7/3/2007 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are pleased to announce that the Descriptive Catalog on the Recovered Masses of the Bassikounou Meteorite Fall is now available as a non-commercial download. The catalog lists 108 single masses of a combined weight of 62.186kg (including the 6.120kg main mass) individually and another 31.665kg in lots. More than 80 individual masses are pictured. The final TKW of the Bassikounou meteorite fall is 93.851kg. In the latest phase of this undertaking we have often been approached by collectors explaining that regarding to their observations the TKW should be much higher. To prove their point they showed us images of single Bassikounou meteorites or complete lots they were offered recently. In 99% of these cases we had cataloged the particular masses before either individually or under a certain lot. In this context it might be interesting for some of you, that many meteorites change hands already before they get distributed. Moroccan sellers equip their colleagues with commission material to visit Europe, or they simply exchange certain batches of material between one another. This is the reason why one and the same meteorite can be offered to you from different sellers from the same NWA country successively. During our research we were able to follow an exemplary Bassikounou mass on its journey from the local finder, to a distributor in Morroco, to a meteorite fair in France, to a European mineral dealer and finally to a collector in Canada. During the stations of the journey this particular meteorite was offered no less than 12 times under different circumstances and with different photos. This in mind it is no wonder that people think there is much more material circulating than actually is. Our experience lead us to the conclusion that many recent meteorite falls that produced showers are largely overestimated in their total weight. We hope that our investigation may aid the understanding and recovery of future meteorite falls in isolated areas. And we are positive, that our undertaking helps to sensitize finders as well as distributors in Mauritania and Morocco to preserve the information that is connected to the meteorites they trade. You can access the complete catalog by clicking at the cover image on the bottom of page 5 of the Bassikounou report: http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/en/Bassikounou_Meteorite_5.htm Or simply by copying the direct link into your browser: http://www.niger-meteorite-recon.de/img_inventar/Buhl_Baermann_Catalog.pdf Please allow the large document some time to load. Thanks again to all contributors. Svend Buhl Matthias Baermann -- www.niger-meteorite-recon.de __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ignorant question -- need clarification
Dear List, I have an admittedly ignorant and potentially embarrassing question: is the person calling himself, Aziz (aka Alhyane Abdelaziz ) the same person as Aziz Habibi. I'm sorry, but I'm not familiar with how people from the near east (as well as the middle east) such as northern Africa (i.e., Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, etc.) represent themselves by name. I just want to be sure I'm dealing with the same Aziz. It seems confusing especially with different email addresses, and different physical locations involved like France in one instance, Morocco then next. Since I'm green to the goings on and movements of people in this area of the world, I just want to be absolutely sure I'm dealing with, first, the same person or persons, then secondly, no potential scamming, but reputable wholesalers/dealers. Thanks for any help and clarification with this in advance. Mal __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Micrograph NWA 094 LL3.6 Combined incident and transmitted light
To the list at large,
I just wanted to take the opportunity to invite everyone the least bit
interested in not only meteorites ( and you know who you are {smile} ),
but science
and art as well, to please bombard Tom with request to see this outstanding
example of synergistic delight when mother nature's hidden treasures are
literally
brought to light via science and technology!
Tom as usual has performed another stellar achievement in bringing to human
eyes what not too many years ago would have been only privy to a higher power
(pun intended). It amazes me to ponder the significance of something like
this -- that but for our brief contemporary period of history exempt, no
human was able
to witness, let alone imagine such beauty could exist since the dawn of
mankind! To me, that is something almost unfathomable to conceive -- that
people such as we
are able to witness such marvels hidden from view since the beginning of it
all! Should we feel a little humbled, yet, elated at the same time?
Besides begging Tom directly for a look at this micrograph of NWA 094, his
gallery of other outstanding examples
can be found
here:
http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/meteorites-alpha_frame.htmhttp://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/meteorites-alpha_frame.htm
Best to all,
Mal
At 11:42 AM 6/12/2007 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi list, I have a beautiful micrograph of NWA 094 LL3.6 that I think you
will enjoy. It is a relatively high magnification (160X) for Xpol work
and it
is combined transmitted and incident light (pass through and reflected).
These shots are difficult in that you must be able to take a good photo in
either method and then you start all over when you combine them. It is
easy to
drown out one method with the other.
Paul, editor of Meteorite Times, manages my Gallery (I'm way to
technophobic) and he is working on an update including many Moss
CO3.5 micrographs I will
post the list when they are up.
Email me and I will email back this cool micrograph. I think it is well
worth your time.
Tom Phillips
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[meteorite-list] Millbillillie's Parent Body At Its Brightest In 18 Years
Dear List, I haven't seen a post relevant to this topic so I thought I would take the opportunity to inform those who may either not already be aware, or need a reminder. Vesta, Millbillillie's parent body, is at opposition, and its brightest in 18 years, with a magnitude of 5.4 which is well within naked eye viewing -- of course, a pair of binoculars or small telescope would enhance the view just that much more. It is now approximately 100 or so million miles from Earth. It will remain near 5.4 for the next couple of weeks and since the moon is presently a factor in viewing Vesta at its optimum, the moonless period between June 8th through 14th will be the next best opportunity for dark sky viewing. The following links will offer more info.:http://skytonight.com/observing/home/Vesta_at_Its_Brightest.html http://media.skytonight.com/images/Vesta07_Finder_color.jpg Take your piece of Millbillillie in your hand while viewing its distant alma mater! Pretty cool I think! regards, Mal __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites hit near Redwater (Canada)?
Our friends to the north (of the USA that is), keep your fingers crossed. :-) http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2007/05/29/4216670-sun.html Mal __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] givaways
Michael - am I the 327th! BOY, I hope so!!! :-) I just love bellyrites! Have a whole bunch of them myself! :-) Mal At 12:28 PM 5/28/2007 -0700, Michael L Blood wrote: Hello List!!! I have found several dozen fragments of meteoritic material that has accumulated over the years in my belly button!!! I don't know what meteorites these are, but no doubt they are chips from some invaluable material!!! While I can't guarantee exactly what falls these are, I will provide signed certificates of documentation stating they came from my belly button!!! As everyone knows, I like only the FINEST meteorites, so, each and every one of these is bound to be great!!! The 327th emailer will get the biggest of these crumbs!!! I'll even pay the freight - I am such a guy!!! Please, no crying from the other 326 emailers!!! I just LOVE giving beginning collectors a head start!!! I was just like you, once!!! It just makes me feel. well, so FULL of myself!!! Now, don't worry if you are one of those 326 losers, I will be posting to the list several times a week for YEARS, generously offering my crumbs!!! Sometimes, I might do it several times a DAY!!! Now, don't you whiners out there get all over me!!! You are just jealous buzz kills!!! If you have issues with me, meet me in Tucson!!! I am a BIG GUY and my dog is bigger than yours, too!!! Well, that about does it. oh, I forgot!!! I have several new meteorites on my web page - never mind the address, I am sure you know MY web site URL!!! Enjoy at your leisure!!! OH, and I am a good PATRIOT, too ...and I believe in God and I was a boy scout! and I like girls!!! Michael Blood, San Diego, CA USA!! Collecting Meteorites since the dawn of Man!!! Specializing in the pretty ones (meteorites, not men) Tell me what you think! (unless I don't want to hear it) on 5/28/07 11:56 AM, steve arnold at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list.I was just cleaning out an old drawer and I found some old campo pieces,really small.I have 3 to givaway.If anyone wants them,you know the drill.Chime in for the first 3 people.I will pay shipping.I am just cleaning everything out now so all I have left is gao and my main collection. steve Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! Collecting Meteorites since 06/19/1999!! chicagometeorites.net.Specializing in Gao Meteorites! Ebay I.D. Illinoismeteorites __ __ TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] freebies and mini gao sales--AD?????
Thanks, Elton, words well said, and hopefully well received, I for one appreciate your integrity, and show of character! I may be meteorite poor, but I'm no meteorite whore. Salut - Mal At 02:04 PM 5/26/2007 -0700, Mr EMan wrote: Steve??? Is this the same sale you posted 2 days ago with the additional email to apologize for not putting AD in the subject line?---Just like you did not do in this advertisement? Steve what is wrong with this picture? Yeah you have a happy blissfully oblivious memorial day. Some of us that have personally lost comrades and brothers don't wish each other Happy Memorial Day--We take the day literally and we visit military cemeteries and military memorials. It isn't a cause for a sale-abration for many of us. It is a day for many of us to actually turn our thoughts in reflection into the lives of the men and women of our Armed Forces and those of some Allies that have given their lives so that others may live in liberty and lead otherwise oblivious lives in their own pursuits of happiness. Perhaps you should stop apologizing for all the transgressions you make--unless you make them so you can post another message to apologize whist plugging your sale yet again. Perhaps you should not post either way. And for all the scumbag listees that prostitute yourselves to grovel over sSteve's bribes/discards-- feeding into his morbid games: Get some back bone. There is nothing he is giving away that you can't get on EBay for $3 including shipping. Three dollars is a cheap buy off for your personal integrity. You are here on the list-- we hear you squabble about sSteve screwing you over time and again yet you continue to conduct business with a personality that demonstrates on a daily basis how untrustworthy he is. I don't get it. Whatever the reason you deserve it for thinking that somehow you won't be the one that he screws over... Yeah? Right! And to all United States based listees regardless of your personal politics or religion, in your own way,, sometime this weekend, do something to express your remembrance of those serviceman and women who went in your stead. Sincerely, Elton --- steve arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow this is a slow day.I want to wish everyone a happy memorial day coming up monday.I also have 2 little gao's to givaway to the first people who chime in.I also want to just remind everyone of my small gao sale to any who want to buy at $1.75 per gram.The biggest being 48 grams and the littlest being 3 grams.All individuals and all very eye appealing.And as usual,shipping is on me. Steve R.Arnold,chicago,Ill,Usa!! __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Announcing a Major New Meteorite Website at UNM
Very, Very Well Done, Geoff! The virtual tour portion is especially nice, not to mention extremely educational for the initiated as well as uninitiated. Definitely something for everyone -- children of all ages, myself included! I highly recommend everyone who loves this hobby/passion (and who doesn't :-) ) check out UNM's Institute of Meteoritics website! Again, Geoff, Kudos to you, and high praises for a superb job!!! Mal At 07:03 PM 5/23/2007 -0700, Notkin wrote: Dear Listees: Greetings all. I've been somewhat quiet on the List these past few months, but I have a good excuse: It is with great pleasure that I can today announce the completion of a major new website for the Meteorite Museum at the University of New Mexico's Institute of Meteoritics. The University maintains an excellent small museum on campus, and I know some of you have visited it. Plans for a new physical museum have been drawn up, and the first step towards achieving that goal was the creation of a modern, interactive website. The site includes the following: - A comprehensive animated Virtual Tour of the educational material which the new museum will feature. This is a wonderful resource and includes detailed information on the Solar System, comets, asteroids, chondrites, differentiated meteorites, impact craters, the Moon, Mars and a great deal more - Architect's plans for the new museum - An extensive gallery of new, original meteorite photographs from the IOM collection - A gallery of thin section photographs - A guide to New Mexico meteorites - Features on meteorite identification, teacher activities, and microscopes I had the privilege of working closely with Dr. Rhian Jones and Dr. Barbara Cohen at UNM during the concept, design, and construction of this site. Many of the best ideas came from them, and they contributed to the genesis of the site in all areas. In particular, Rhian devised the text and content for the Virtual Tour and Barbara designed many of the banners and provided photos, graphics, as well as concepts for the site structure. My senior design assistant Karl Covington executed the animation, as well as image rendering, design, and typesetting, and the final product benefited greatly from all their efforts. I'd like thank Dr. Jones, Dr. Cohen and their colleagues for the opportunity to serve as art director for this fascinating project and I hope you will all enjoy the new site. Here it is: http://epswww.unm.edu/meteoritemuseum/ Sincerely, Geoffrey Notkin Stanegate Studios Aerolite Meteorites __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Where have all the meteorites gone?
Since Paul mentioned this about material drying up on eBay, I've been wondering a little about this eBay seller called, 'jlacroix1' ( I've also followed/watched one or two others for the past month or so who seem to be following sort of the same pattern). Here's an example of what I'm referring to (which I'm sure many of you already know about): http://cgi.ebay.com/64-27-KGS-NEW-CAMPO-DEL-CIELO-METEORITE-142-pounds_W0QQitemZ120117201192QQihZ002QQcategoryZ3239QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem He seems to peddle a lot of Campo in the 100+ (40 kg and up) lbs. range for what I consider unbelievably low prices for their sizes. Even if they're not high grade or sculpted specimens, I don't understand how he can offer the amount of material he seems to be always offering at, to me anyway, such low and unreal prices! For all I know, he may be well know by many of you, and even a member of this list in excellent standing. His has a stellar feedback rating of an unbelievable 100% out of nearly 3000 transactions ( I mean not one slightly disgruntled buyer/ seller for any reason at all, ever). Can someone just shed some light on my skepticism with these too good to believe offerings. Maybe I'm just too jaded for my own good. I'm sorry if I'm challenging someone who is completely beyond reproach in any manner or degree whatsoever. I really don't mean to, I just don't understand this phenomenon in this day and age, especially when it comes to eBay. I know the dealers in our community and their reputable ways, but this just makes me wonder. I mean when I purchase a sculpted, and top rated AAA Campo, I pay nearly that much for a specimen in the 20 to 30 lbs. (10kg to 12Kg or so) range forget nearly 150 lbs.! Appreciate any clarification on this from those out there that know. Best regards, Mal At 04:57 AM 5/10/2007 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There used to be a good selection of pallasites and decent-sized irons rolling through ebay but it seemed to dry up a few months ago. It's downright pathetic lately. What's going on? Paul Swartz __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Helping the People of Greensburg
Hello Everyone, First of all, my son and I would like to offer our deep, sincere regret and sorrow to all of those that may have been impacted by the horrific tragedy in Greensburg, Kansas and surrounding area! The most important issue at hand for the people who lived through the devastation is shelter, food, drink, and the seemingly daunting task of putting their lives back together which admittedly is, I feel, not a priority as just making one day to the next their overwhelming challenge at present. I spoke with my 8 year old son, Gabriel, regarding the destruction, and he came up with the idea of writing a letter to his school principal, teachers, and classmates regarding this tragedy and asking if they wouldn't mind donating whatever they can to help the good people in the Greensburg area. I'm also planning on emailing family and friends to ask them if they would do the same. My question is; how should I ask people to donate, or where to send donations? Could someone set up a special PayPal account to collect funds for the relief, or should we just send donations to one of the list members such as Maria, Mark, Steve, Geoff, or someone else? I know they could send their donations to the Red Cross of course, but does anyone have a more direct ( i.e., more personal and maybe more efficient) way of sending funds to hopefully/possibly be of more immediate help to those in greatest need? With warm regards to all, Mal __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Asteroid Jiggles Like a Jar of Mixed Nuts
Like a jiggled jar of mixed nuts, shaking on the near-Earth asteroid Itokawa is sorting loose rock particles on its surface by size, causing the smallest grains to sink into depressions, a new study suggests. ... http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/070419_shaking_asteroid.html __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Software Models Consequences Of Asteroid Strikes
I thought some of you might find this of interest: http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/070410_technovel_asteroidcomp.html ...An asteroid just 200 meters in diameter hitting one of Earth's oceans could cause tsunamis around the world. The largest asteroid strike in recent human memory, at the http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/planetearth/tunguska_mystery_011031.htmlTunguskahttp://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/planetearth/tunguska_mystery_011031.html River in Russia, felled 80 million trees over an area of 2,150 kilometers. That object's size has been estimated at about 50 meters in diameter. Mal __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] To the dreamers -- continued
Hi Everyone - If it is fine with all of you, I would like to, on occasion, post a little poem, or prose related to a passion or two of mine. :-) Can anyone guess what they may be? I thought I would continue with a second installment following from the one I just recently posted the other day, When I Heard the Learn'd Astronomer. Oft you shall see the stars, when wind is near, Shoot headlong from the sky, and through the night Leave in their wake long whitening seas of flame. Virgil, Georgics, Book 1 To the dreamer in all of us! Mal __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] To the dreamers -- continued
Hi Everyone - If it is fine with all of you, I would like to, on occasion, post a little poem, or prose related to a passion or two of mine. :-) Can anyone guess what they may be? I thought I would continue with a second installment following from the one I just recently posted the other day, When I Heard the Learn'd Astronomer. Oft you shall see the stars, when wind is near, Shoot headlong from the sky, and through the night Leave in their wake long whitening seas of flame. Virgil, Georgics, Book 1 To the dreamer in all of us! Mal __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Publishing a book of photographs on meteorite thin sections
Tom, Jeff, and list, Since I've been out of touch for a while, I have question regarding micro photography. Specially, art house type publication involving micro photography. After seeing Tom Phillips' stunning images of the meticulously prepared slides by Jeff Hodges it hit me, has anyone every published a book of photographs on meteorite thin sections -- sort of a coffee table art book (i.e. a pictorial essay)? If not, I would think Tom, Jeff, and others involved in this discipline, in one form or another, might possible be persuaded to think along these lines. Maybe, we as a community could even offer to contribute financially towards such a project to see that such a beautiful, rare sub discipline of art and science be made available to all. I know I would! It would also be kind of neat to see the meteorite community here, and the IMCA as well, be recognized publicly for our involvement to promote science, and meteoritics! We could be a catalyst in stirring the fertile ground of imagination of the young (and older of us as well). Except for the few in the scientific community, and a few other devotees, most of us who enjoy meteorites really never get a chance to really see such awe-inspiring, high quality, detailed images of one aspect of our hobby. It would even perhaps help to stir more interest in science, and meteoritics in particular, to the public at large -- especially school age children. I know some of you have published in the past in one form or another, and know of possible publishing houses that may wish to help in such an endeavor -- for a fee of course. :-) Just a thought. Mal __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] To the dreamers
When I Heard the Learn'd Astronomer When I heard the learn'd astronomer, When the proofs, the figures, were ranged in columns before me, When I was shown the charts and diagrams, to add, divide, and measure them, When I sitting heard the astronomer where he lectured with much applause in the lecture-room, How soon unaccountable I became tired and sick, Till rising and gliding out I wandered off by myself, In the mystical moist night-air, and from time to time, Looked up in perfect silence at the stars. Walt Whitman (1819 - 1892) Just a little something to ponder for all of us who racked our brains whether in the formal halls of academia, or in our on self imposed intellectual pursuits, meteorically or otherwise. Happy Easter to all you care! Mal __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Easter gift to the list. SAH 99555 Angrite Xpol Micrographs from Tom
Thanks, Tom, for your beautiful, and awe-inspiring glimpse into the hidden, wondrous world of microscopic imaging! Images like these just further enhance the appeal of our hobby and what beauty our hobby has to offer, both macroscopically to our naked eye ( which we are much more familiar with in general), as well as in the normally unseen microscopical world rarely seen let alone in such splendor, and beauty! Keep up the wonderful work for all our sakes! Mal At 10:58 AM 4/8/2007 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List, I have a bunch of Easter colors for you to check out. Jeff Hodges has provided me some more unbelievable thin sections to image and, of course, I had to start with the Angrite. It is a beautiful polished thin of SAH 99555. I have picked two sets of six, the first taken at 160X and the second at 400X, both in cross polarized transmitted (pass through) light. The Angrite are to glassy to get good reflected light images but I'll keep at it. I'll send this set in an email to whoever emails me and asks. I do this because I don't want to just start sending image files to people who are not interested. It will be embedded in the email through AOL so no need to worry about attached file downloads (Those always make me nervous if I don't know who sent them). If you look at them and like them, please post to the list. I am trying to raise awareness of my micrograph Gallery http://www.meteorite.com/meteorite-gallery/ and some positive comments might encourage others to take a look. Thanks, Tom Phillips ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] To the dreamers
When I Heard the Learn'd Astronomer When I heard the learn'd astronomer, When the proofs, the figures, were ranged in columns before me, When I was shown the charts and diagrams, to add, divide, and measure them, When I sitting heard the astronomer where he lectured with much applause in the lecture-room, How soon unaccountable I became tired and sick, Till rising and gliding out I wandered off by myself, In the mystical moist night-air, and from time to time, Looked up in perfect silence at the stars. Walt Whitman (1819 - 1892) Just a little something to ponder for all of us who racked our brains whether in the formal halls of academia, or in our on self imposed intellectual pursuits, meteorically or otherwise. Happy Easter to all you care! Mal __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Ad New pallasite slices available right now.
Well, It is pretty sad -- after 4 years being absent from this list, I see not much has changed! I thought coming back would be exciting, and an opportunity to catch up, learn, discuss, and converse with like minded folks world-wide regarding a most wondrous hobby and passion. I'm beginning to remember now why I left in the first place. I really can't believe nothing seems to have changed for the better in four years around here! Oh, well, I guess I better hunker back down before I'm hit by debris raining down from above -- this list feels like an Internet version of a Tunguska event. Sad regards to all, Mal At 06:14 PM 4/7/2007 +0200, M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote: hahhahha ridiculus man...remember you have start for first to send vulgar, and pubblic, emails to me, and I have say to stop to broken me, I do not why Farmer not answer to this person, seen he have say I am its gay lover.ah, and stop to broken me in my mailbox with messagges sent with other emails address, I seen you are the same person. Matteo - Original Message - Da : Howard Steffic [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : [meteorite-list] Ad New pallasite slices available right now. Data : Sat, 07 Apr 2007 10:09:53 -0600 Matteo. I won't bother the list with the extremely vulgar private emails that you sent privately to me which prompted my response to you. Remember that posting of private emails is a clear violation of the rules. Now, STFU Howard Steffic From: M come Meteorite Meteorites mcomemeteorite2004 at yahoo.it meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad New pallasite slices available right now. just for have a idea what nicest persons its present in this list --- Howard Steffic bencubbin at hotmail.com ha scritto: Are you Farmer's Gay Lover? Howard Steffic From: M come Meteorite Meteorites mcomemeteorite2004 at yahoo.it To: Howard Steffic bencubbin at hotmail.com, meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad New pallasite slices available right now. Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 13:23:29 +0200 (CEST) the same for you --- Howard Steffic bencubbin at hotmail.com ha scritto: Do you ever just keep your mouth shut? You are the biggest trouble maker on this list. Howard Steffic From: M come Meteorite Meteorites info at mcomemeteorite.it To: meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Ad New pallasite slices available right now. Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 06:14:11 +0200 My ex Seymchan slice it had the same patterns and I not have pay $80/gr..for similar price I prefear buy Esquel. Matteo - Original Message - Da : Michael Farmer meteoriteguy at yahoo.com A : meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com Oggetto : [meteorite-list] Ad New pallasite slices available right now. Data : Fri, 6 Apr 2007 14:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Ok, I have loaded a page of the new pallasite slices just now. Check these babies out! Does anyone know of a pallasite with an etch pattern similar to this one? Glorieta Mountain is the only one I can think of that is similar to this one. http://www.meteoriteguy.com/catalog/pallasiteslices.htm Michael Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list at meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- -- Previous message: [meteorite-list] (AD) NWA 1685,the black meteorite Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] -- -- More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ ___ The average US Credit Score is 675. The cost to see yours: $0 by Experian. http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=660600bcd=EMAILFOOTERAVERAGE __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Canyon Diablo
Dennis- Besides Steve, as Ann mentioned -- you might also want to speak with Ron Hartman as well. If I remember correctly, he spent many a day, and week, out there hunting in and around that hole. Good luck, and BTW, I'm envious! At 06:05 PM 4/2/2007 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/2/2007 2:31:52 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone on the list that use to recover canyon diablo irons back before it was closed ! I have a offer to hunt for them legally for three days this month(in the day light) on the bar t bar ranch land,sorry the offer is only for me to go. I reason I was asking was I will never have this opportunely again and I don't want to waste time looking in the wrong place. So if you could give the best area to hunt north,south,east,west of the crater. Contact off list. Thanks Dennis - Hello Dennis, You are a very lucky person! Your best bet would be to ask Steve Schoner, and I hope he will see your question and jump in. I believe he knows the area quite well. And of course we will expect a full report with pictures! Anne M. Black www.IMPACTIKA.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] President, I.M.C.A. Inc. www.IMCA.cc ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Just to say, Hi once again!
Hello everyone once again!
After almost a four year absence, I had an irresistible urge to again
stroll back to the old
neighborhood and see how much or how little it may have changed. It is
rather refreshing to see
many of the same old names I remember from the past, as well as some new
ones, posting, along
with some of the same in-family bickering going on that I so vividly
remember from the past.
Reminds me of one big family sitting around the dinner table with everyone
fighting over the last piece
of pie! :-)
It is really nice to see everyone, or should I say read everyone, once
again -- sort of like
coming home after a long sojourn in the wilderness with all of its
uncertainties and possible dangers, to be
back in safer, and more familiar surroundings, albeit maybe a bit
tumultuous, and testy at times, but never the less, still
a feeling of kinship!
I've been absent for the past couple of years from the meteorite list due
to several reasons, but principally since my wife, Ava, passed away
suddenly and most untimely in an auto accident two years ago this coming
Monday, April 2nd. Personally, things were somewhat tough
before her death, but at least she was there then to help smooth over the
rough terrain, but after her death our one an only child, Gabriel
(now eight) was my one and only true concern.
Although my heart has always remained true to our wondrous, cosmic friends
from above, I had to take a break from
collecting, participating on the list, and even subdue to a major degree,
my once burning desire and interest in reading and educating myself further
on a once most
passionate joy in my life. My son came first above all else, and a very
unwanted adjustment period ensued with the loss of Gabriel's mother, and my
best friend while trying to be both father and mother to Gabriel, and at
the same time trying to cope with my own sense of loss and bewilderment.
Anyway, I also wanted to mention how shocked I was when I rejoined the list
a couple of days ago to hear about Walter Branch being involved in some
sort of auto accident of his own! From the little information I've
gathered thus far, it sounds as if Walter's daughter was involved in the
accident as well,
but that she may have faired much better than he had? I was just somewhat
shocked and dismayed to read of this for I dealt with Walter on several
occasions and found him extremely friendly as well as professional! He was
top drawer as was everyone I've dealt with over the years on this list!
I just offer up my best wishes and prayers for Walter, his wife, and
daughter during this very tragic time in their lives! If anyone has an
email address
that is current for either Walter or his wife, I would like to directly
email them my sympathy, and concern. Also, if anyone would care to do so,
I would also like to
hear how Walter is progressing!
Well, in closing, I'm back to collecting ( already made several purchases
from several dealers on our list and from my past), and on top of that, I
have a very inquisitive
eight year old who just purchased his own VERY FIRST meteorite (actually
several :-) ).
Hope all of you are doing well personally, and meteoritically! {smile}
Best regards to all,
Mal
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[meteorite-list] The Search for the Missing Amazon Meteor
Hi Folks, I thought some of you might be interested in reading this article at Space.com: http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/planetearth/crater_expedition_020924-1.html Very interesting excerpt, On Sept. 26, the expedition team will hold their third and last live webcast, accessible through their web site (http://www.blueiceonline.org). The researchers involved think this may be the youngest impact crater on Earth (the site is located in Bolivia); Scientists are not certain how or when Iturralde Crater formed (despite its name that alludes to an impact). General speculation and circumstantial evidence point to the collision of a meteor either an asteroid or comet -- about 5,000 to 30,000 years ago. This would make it one of the youngest impact craters known, although some scientists argue it is much older. I know this missing Amazon meteor story has been around for sometime and is rather controversial, but at the same time, have any of you heard of the theory related to a meteor impact that may have shaped the coastline of North and South Carolina! There is a geophysicist (I can't remember his name or where I read the story at this time, but I will find it again soon) who claims that this just may have happened. Although most if not all of his fellow peers strongly doubt it, he is still undeterred and says he will prove it one way or another! Both topics are extremely interesting... Mal __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] The Search for the Missing Amazon Meteor (addendum)
I also meant to inform all of you that you can witness in real time the research teams Magplane as it performs its survey of the impact area doing magnetic field measurements using the same URL as mentioned earlier, (http://www.blueiceonline.org). Mal
Re: [meteorite-list] Lawrencite-like oozing from an H6 Impact Melt Breccia
Thanks to all that have responded so far, Ron H., Mike F., David C., Guy S., David H., Matteo C., Tracey L., and Christian A. -- hope I didn't miss anyone! Sorry, if I did! I guess I've just been pretty fortunate with the vast majority of my H stony meteorites as far as Lawrencite goes, but rust is another story! I've had some problems with rust like on El Hammami (due to camel sweat as the story goes, but I'm pretty sure atmospheric conditions of just being on Earth had very much to do with that as well). As far as Kunya-Urgench goes, basically all brown from rust, but holding up well otherwise, no oozing so far at least, and I've had it for over 3 years (although I understand that a good portion of the single meteorite sat for some period of time in water or at least in a marshy like environment until it could be removed -- am I correct on this?). I've also had a problem or two with Pallasites like Brahin (rust), but never any Lawrencite (ferrous chloride) type oozing. But again, as I've said many times already, I'm no expert and my experience level I still consider intermediate even after 10 years of enjoying the hobby. As Ron has mentioned, I do realize H's do have a lot of iron (i.e. free metal (nickel/iron) not chemically bound in mineral form -- did I put that fairly close to correct, Ron?) and would have a high tendency to rust, but like I said, I just haven't read or remember hearing anyone complain about this condition before with stony's -- just irons. However, senility does begin early in my family. :-) Finally, from what I understand, when it comes to Dhofar 010 only several pieces totaling around 3.5 kg were found in Oman, and being pretty badly weathered (W3), the epoxy was used to hold the cut pieces together during finishing as they were rather cracked and had a strong potential to break during the polishing process! However, I doubt seriously that the epoxy has anything to do with this, for one thing, my particular piece has hardly if any at all, and secondly, the oozing on my piece is no were around any of the fractured areas! Believe it, or not, I'm through -- Mal At 11:31 PM 5/21/2002 -0700, you wrote: Hi Mal, Yes, believe it or not stones can and do have the Lawrencite disease. The same greenish-ooze! There is considerable iron in stones too, and it does happen. I have an El Hammami that is terrible in this regard, and some Saharan H chondrites as well. I'd treat it the same way as you have, in anhydrous alcohol (not even 99%). Blot the ooze at once, don't let it get started, and change the alcohol often until it stops. It will give up eventfully. Ron Hartman - Original Message - From: Mal Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 5:10 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Lawrencite-like oozing from an H6 Impact Melt Breccia Hi List, First of all, Hi, to everyone on the list new and old, and I don't mean age wise! :-) I'll get to my question in a minute, but I wanted to make an observation first. I've been on and off of the list for 3 or 4 years, but lately (last year or so) mostly a lurker. Back in the earlier days there were some on this list more interested in stirring up the mix so-to-speak than carry on any meaningful dialogue, transfer of knowledge, or just plain enrich the passion of others on the list that really wanted to talk meteorites! After a few unpleasant run-ins and realizing that it appeared the list was really nothing much more than an on-line market for dealers and collectors wishing to trade/sell meteorites, and most of the remaining threads involved the aforementioned malarkey, I just kind of slipped into the background and hung around waiting for that relatively rare and interesting tidbit of info actually concerning meteorites! There were a handful of regular contributors, and experts that came through back then just as they still do today, and I think most of you know the individuals I'm referring to! The reason for the above statement is to my great pleasure and enjoyment, this list has changed for the better and is getting better all of the time. I think there were many members, in fact I know there were some members for they emailed me privately with the same concerns, whom would not join in out of fear of being ridiculed and harassed. Well, it seems as if it is all water under the bridge now! Now to my question... I recently purchased a beautifully prepared part slice of Dhofar 010 which is an H6 impact melt breccia. It shows a very dark black melt (the matrix material) surrounding the lighter brown unmelted clasts sparkling with tiny bits of metal. I've had it now for almost a month. The past week, week and a half, I noticed that it has dark, brown, greenish looking droplets of moisture oozing out on the back unpolished side and a couple of droplets on the front highly polished
[meteorite-list] Asteroids Often Travel, and Strike, in Pairs
Thought some of you might find this article interesting! http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/solarsystem/double_asteroids_020411.html Best to all of you - Mal __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ***AD*** DISPLAY CASES FOR SALE ******
Hello fellow meteorite enthusiast, I have two very nice display cases I would like to sell. They were custom hand built to specifications I wanted at the time ( ~ 5 years ago). I've out grown them for my purposes and would like to find a nice home for them. They are both virtually identical except in physical size. They are constructed of light colored oak for the base/trim with red felt lining the inside bottom display area. The top covers are made of acrylic plastic and look as NEW and MINT as the day I bought them! The dimensions for the smaller of the two cases is as follows: O.D.: 19.5 W x 8.5 D x 4.75 H I.D. (actual display area): 18 W x 7 D x 4 H As for the larger case, it is: O.D.: 20 W x 11 D x 6.75 H I.D. (actual display area): 18 W x 9 D x 6 H I paid over a $135 for these two cases (custom built) roughly 5 years ago NOT including the shipping/handling cost, nor insurance! They are beautiful cases and I'm somewhat reluctant to let them go, but if someone really has a nice individual specimen to show off or even several, they will look very nice in these cases! I'm willing to let both go as one lot for $75 + S/H and insurance to cover the acrylic covers as well as the bases, or I'll sell them individually, the larger for $50 and the smaller $40. I'll be more than happy to email jpg photos to anyone interested. The shipping, and insurance will have to be determined according to destination and carrier used! Thanks for your kind attention! Sincerely, Mal IMCA member #6819
