Re: [uf-discuss] include-pattern support for data outside of the current page? [Was: Visible Data...a Microformat requirement?]

On 10/26/06 11:22 AM, "Guillaume Lebleu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > include-pattern support for data outside of the current page? Guillaume, My apologies for not clarifying this on the include-pattern page - I could have swore I had done so, and it was one of these core aspects of its design t

Re: [uf-discuss] Advocacy & "spread" pages: merge?

On 10/24/06 4:10 PM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Should these pages: > > > > > > be merged? Thanks for pointing this out. My preference is to keep them both (I do think th

Re: [uf-discuss] GRDDL Links the Semantic Web and Microformats

On 10/24/06 8:10 AM, "Frances Berriman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just got this on my feeds; > > http://www.w3.org/2006/10/grddl-pressrelease > > (apologies if I sent this twice - I got a bounce back with an mistake once) I only got it once. Perhaps consider adding it to http://microformats

Re: [uf-discuss] "include" in "hCalendar"

On 10/23/06 12:35 PM, "Ryan King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Oct 23, 2006, at 11:34 AM, Justin Thorp wrote: > >> Ryan, >> >> Maybe taking it a step further, > > How about we take the first step first? :D Exactly. In general, instead of *talking* (writing, whatever) about taking *further*

Re: [uf-discuss] attention profiling mark-up language?

On 10/23/06 10:43 AM, "Benjamin West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > huh? I thought technorati already had attention.xml, not to mention > whatever format attentiontrust uses. That was quite a while ago. The current work at rethinking attention.xml is here: http://microformats.org/wiki/attention

Re: [uf-discuss] Visible Data...a Microformat requirement?

On 10/23/06 12:11 AM, "Mike Schinkel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> If it is not worth or appropriate to make the information visible, then >>> it is not worth trusting the information and certainly not worth the time to >>> make a microformat for it. > > But what if the website publisher (or gr

Re: [uf-discuss] Visible Data...a Microformat requirement?

On 10/22/06 11:10 PM, "Mike Schinkel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brian Suda recently said: > >>> the problem with using Meta elements is that they are out-side >>> of human-readable realm. One of the key factors in microformats >>> is to keep the data visible, it keeps it fresh, prevents many

[uf-discuss] microformats lists (beginners, new microformats)

On 10/21/06 11:34 AM, "Chris Messina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And how's about that request for a beginner's list that was put forth > recently? :) microformats-discuss *is* the beginner's list. The primary non-beginner use of this list is currently discussion about new microformats, for whi

Re: [uf-discuss] Advocacy Page on Wiki

On 10/20/06 2:58 PM, "Mike Schinkel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I created an Advocacy page on the Wiki. > http://microformats.org/wiki/Advocacy > > If it's not the right place for it, of course please move it... Thanks Mike. It makes sense and I have expanded upon and added some sections. On

Re: [uf-discuss] IRC Chat Client?

On 10/20/06 1:52 AM, "Mike Schinkel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for the all input on chat programs! I'll check'em out and get on the > IRC after I come back from this long weekend. Mike, perhaps you could add a page to the wiki "irc-clients" listing the recommendations so far and adding

Re: [uf-discuss] hResume - Marking up experience and "present" date

On 10/19/06 3:27 PM, "Jeremy Boggs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Agreed, for now, this is an excellent point to start: >> >> http://microformats.org/wiki/hresume-issues > > Thanks for setting this up, Tantek. So, if we want to discuss further > issues with this problem, should we post them the

Re: [uf-discuss] hResume - Marking up experience and "present" date

On 10/19/06 11:29 AM, "Ryan King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Oct 18, 2006, at 6:29 AM, Ciaran McNulty wrote: >> In iCal (and therefore presumably hCal), the following rule applies >> for events that lack a DTEND or DURATION: >> >> "For >> cases where a "VEVENT" calendar component specifies

Re: [uf-discuss] hCalendar spec- no specification included!

On 10/18/06 4:54 PM, "Mike Schinkel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Opps, you caught my lack of meticulousness! No problem at all Mike. Just want to clear that up. ;) >>> Thanks for this feedback Mike - you make very good points. > > Thanks in return. It is nice to know when one's efforts are ap

Re: [uf-discuss] hCalendar spec- no specification included!

On 10/18/06 4:04 PM, "Mike Schinkel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My point was simply to be careful not to overwhelm the user with text on a > intro page as it has been proven people scan web pages instead of reading > them[1]. Less will be more here. Justin presents this[2] as an example, but >

Re: [uf-discuss] Unclear status of 'include-pattern'

On 10/18/06 3:56 PM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As I noted on the Wiki a few hours ago, it's not clear, either from the > main Wiki page or include-pattern, whether the latter is an agreed > standard, a draft, or just a proposal. It is currently listed in the "Design Patterns"

Re: Know your stuff: (Was: [uf-discuss] hCard-o-matic toplevel div notaddress?)

On 10/17/06 1:51 AM, "Mike Schinkel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think the reorganization to create mini-home pages for each microformat > will make it easy to find and remember those I think this is a good suggestion and perhaps we can do with a naming convention for such "mini-home" overview

Re: [uf-discuss] hCalendar spec- no specification included!

On 10/16/06 12:30 PM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Imagine what would happen if everyone attempted to do so (or even just a >> dozen people). There would be a lot of thrash, and worse still, the pages >> that are stable and reliable would become less so to the readers of those >>

Re: [uf-discuss] hCalendar spec- no specification included!

On 10/16/06 11:53 AM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> If you can be specific about *which* pages, and what about them are >> hard to understand, that would be very helpful. > > Here's a hint: most people new to hCalendar (some of them, it will > apparently come as a surprise to you,

Re: [uf-discuss] hCalendar spec- no specification included!

On 10/16/06 11:30 AM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tantek Çelik > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >> On 10/16/06 10:38 AM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> &

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Idea: beginners/getting started list

On 10/14/06 3:29 PM, "Christopher Rines" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tantek wrote: >> ... >> I like the suggestions of opening up microformats-dev as well. >> Anybody else on the list have thoughts? > > I am using microformats extensively in my project but at the moment it is > not ready for the

Re: [uf-discuss] Idea: beginners/getting started list

On 10/16/06 10:44 AM, "Justin Thorp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scott, someone had previously proposed microformats-research. It achieves the > same goal as microformats-process and seems to be a little more clear. Justin, Scott, good points and suggestions. Just so we can keep track of the

Re: [uf-discuss] hCalendar spec- no specification included!

On 10/16/06 10:49 AM, "Justin Thorp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think the pages the way they are presented now are a bit hard to process and > understand. Justin, your feedback on this is greatly valued. If you can be specific about *which* pages, and what about them are hard to understand,

Re: [uf-discuss] hCalendar spec- no specification included!

On 10/16/06 10:38 AM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've just been introducing a colleague to the concept of hCalendar; and > referred her to: > > http://microformats.org/wiki/hCalendar > > She was baffled; not lest because, though the page had a treatise on > "Semantic XH

Re: [uf-discuss] spread/marketing

(subject updated) On 10/16/06 10:15 AM, "Alex Piner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was not sure if the discuss list was the best place to send the > "spread the semantic web" message (thanks Chris, for suggesting this). I'm not even sure it is the right message. To be frank, IMHO the term "sem

Re: [uf-discuss] Idea: beginners/getting started list

On 10/16/06 5:27 AM, "Colin Barrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As someone who's helped set up and determine mailing list policy, it's > MUCH easier to have as few lists as possible. Colin, I tend to agree with this, and as such that's why we only started with three lists which were varied base

Re: [uf-discuss] ANN: The Purpose of Microformats

On 10/14/06 1:50 PM, "Costello, Roger L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I have written a short presentation titled, The Purpose of > Microformats. > > http://www.xfront.com/microformats/Purpose-of-Microformats.html > > I welcome your comments and suggestions. Roger, this looks *ex

Re: [uf-discuss] Idea: beginners/getting started list

y > be retained... but I like > > microformats-propose > > and > > microformats-applied (instead of apply) > > Anyone else? Who has the authority to actually make this happen? ;) > > Chris > > On 10/14/06, Andy Mabbett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> In mess

Re: [uf-discuss] Idea: beginners/getting started list

On 10/10/06 4:54 PM, "Ben Buchanan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> So that's the idea for discussion. It may be naive. My motivation is to >> reach to the average designer and developer folk in a way that's >> accessible to them. >> Thoughts? > > A lot of the reasons you've raised might also apply

Re: Software Projects Description Re: [uf-discuss] Potential Microformats

On 10/5/06 9:18 AM, "Danny Ayers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I could have sworn I mailed this or the dev list about hDOAP [1] , but > I can't find anything substantial in the archives, probably forgot the > cc...anyhow basically it's a way of describing software projects in > HTML, based on DO

Re: [uf-discuss] Marking Up Personal Profiles

On 10/1/06 5:34 PM, "Lachlan Hunt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tantek Çelik wrote: >> The key distinction with microformats is to make sure that *all* your >> example data is based on data actually found on the Web *with* specific URLs >> to where the data ca

Re: [uf-discuss] Marking Up Personal Profiles

On 10/1/06 10:27 AM, "Lachlan Hunt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chris Messina wrote: >> I would challenge you to follow the guideline to solve a specific >> problem... > > I thought that's what I was doing. Rather than proposing a new format > straight away, I presented a use case with some exa

Re: [uf-discuss] Process to handle decentralized creation of new microformats?

On 10/1/06 8:37 AM, "Bruce D'Arcus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/1/06, Costello, Roger L. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> There are lots of really smart people on this list. There must be a >> solution. Can you think of a process for allowing a decentralized >> creation of microformats, w

Re: [uf-discuss] Process to handle decentralized creation of new microformats?

On 10/1/06 7:44 AM, "Costello, Roger L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Folks, > > This community is awesome! Microformats are awesome! Thanks much Roger! > At the present time the creation of new microformats is centralized, to > this list. Or certainly to microformats.org. Many folks pre

semantic XHTML and microformats (was Re: [uf-discuss] Automatic conversion of XML to microformat and vice versa; recommendation for handling XML attributes?)

These are all good recommendations. There are a couple of higher level things from Roger's original email that I wanted to clear up though. Note that the XOXO conversion that Brian and David are talking about will convert *any* XML into XOXO which is *a* microformat, rather than just *an* XML *do

Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

On 9/24/06 7:25 PM, "Chris Casciano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sep 24, 2006, at 7:29 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > >> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tantek Çelik >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >> >>> date >> >>

Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

On 9/24/06 3:15 PM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Otherwise there is a ballooning of optional components. > > That's absurd, and a very weak and illogical form of argument. Nobody is > suggesting any more than one optional component. You've invented the > rest. Even one additiona

Re: [uf-discuss] use existing before proposing new

On 9/24/06 2:38 PM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tantek Çelik > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >> Before proposing even the assumed *need* for a microformat, what if we >> require that the proposer *

Re: [uf-discuss] Dated currency examples?

On 9/24/06 2:13 PM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Who will be dissuaded, by the inclusion of an *optional* component? Because if it is unnecessary for the 80/20, we leave it out. Otherwise there is a ballooning of optional components. In terms of date, I suggest you look to the

[uf-discuss] use existing before proposing new

[fork] On 9/24/06 1:38 PM, "Scott Reynen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think you might be underestimating the difficulty of convincing > people to use microformats. But I'll be happy to find I was wrong > come adoption time. Scott, this is an excellent point, and something I have *often* foun

Re: [uf-discuss] Criticism of Microformats

On 9/24/06 2:05 PM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tantek Çelik > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >> On 9/24/06 12:01 PM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>

Re: [uf-discuss] hcard - role or title?

"title" in hCard/vCard is well understood to mean "job/organization title" and is commonly used. "role" is less well understood and less used in both existing vCard applications and content. While "role" may have a lot of potential, it makes sense to use "title" as it is understood, while "role"

Re: [uf-discuss] Criticism of Microformats

On 9/24/06 12:01 PM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It seemed to me that a page linking to (non-hysterical) criticism of > Microformats might be useful, so I created one: > > This is certainly a reasonable approach, to openly confront criticisms and thus dispose of them.

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: species

On 9/24/06 10:08 AM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Colin > Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > I think questions like those will help your case -- sending dozens of links to this list will not. >>> >>> Then you'd better ask TC why he asked

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: species

On 9/23/06 10:29 AM, "Scott Reynen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> In fact, I'll wager that they do so far more >> than they use 8-digit geo-spatial references, but that doesn't stop us >> using "geo". > > I agree that geo is not currently very widely published on the web, > and if it were suggest

Re: [uf-discuss] [citation] Call for scope check (was Re: Citation: next steps?)

On 9/22/06 4:48 PM, "Ryan Cannon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why aren't we looking for an established format to fulfill our 80/20 > requirement and become a > good 1:1 scope? We are. There is much debate about which format to re-use existing property names etc. from. > Perhaps instead of whe

Re: [uf-discuss] New wiki page: FireFox Extensions

On 9/22/06 4:35 PM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Does what it says on the tin: > > http://microformats.org/wiki/firefox-extensions Thanks creating this page Andy. Note also the Greasemonkey page: http://microformats.org/wiki/greasemonkey Perhaps these two can be co

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: species

On 9/22/06 12:24 PM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ryan > King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >> On Sep 21, 2006, at 5:25 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: >>> Shall I take everyone's silence as complete agreement? ;-) >> >> No. :-P > > So, are you going to tel

Re: [uf-discuss] Use of (also ) and Accessibility

On 9/21/06 5:07 PM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tantek Çelik > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >>>> >>>> >>>> also an interesting take on the non-use of . >>>

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

On 9/21/06 3:34 PM, "Guillaume Lebleu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Looks like there are many others: > > There are various common abbreviations to distinguish the Canadian > dollar from others: while the ISO > > curren

Re: [uf-discuss] Use of (also ) and Accessibility

On 9/21/06 3:20 PM, "Ben Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 21 Sep 2006, at 20:05, Andy Mabbett wrote: >> There're some interesting views about the use of by >> microformats, >> on the Accessify forum: >> >> >> >> also an interesting take on the non-use of . > > I'm a little confus

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

On 9/20/06 3:51 PM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I see that you documented some examples on the "currency" page on the >> wiki. >> >> Others have mentioned existing currency formats on this thread. >> >> Could you please create the following pages and fill them out? >> >> http:/

Re: [uf-discuss] 'currency' microformat straw-man proposal.

Andy, I see that you documented some examples on the "currency" page on the wiki. Others have mentioned existing currency formats on this thread. Could you please create the following pages and fill them out? http://microformats.org/wiki/currency-examples http://microformats.org/wiki/curren

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: a very early draft proposal hTagcloud

David, Perhaps you could add it to the rel-tag-faq? http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-tag-faq Thanks, Tantek On 9/20/06 12:36 PM, "David Janes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Somehow this has escaped me though in hindsight it's blindingly > obvious. Perhaps this should get an explicit mention

Re: [uf-discuss] a very early draft proposal hTagcloud

On 9/19/06 5:34 PM, "John Allsopp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dmitry, > >> How to stylize it in this case to look as it usually looks on sites >> (with different font sizes, depending on weight)? > > while David's response is right, you can use the attribute selector, > a big reservation I jus

Re: [uf-discuss] Proposal: species

On 9/16/06 6:45 AM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There should, I believe, be a microformat for the markup of plant and > animal names, to include their scientific names. Sounds interesting Andy. Could you start by finding real-world examples on the Web with URLs and documenting

Re: [uf-discuss] "geo" not mentioned on Wikipedia "Geotagging" page

On 9/14/06 6:04 AM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Somebody familiar with the "geo" microformat might want to add details, > and a link to the relevant page on the microformat Wiki, to the > Wikipedia page on Geotagging > (I am not in a pos

Re: [uf-discuss] hAtom template on microformats.org

On 9/13/06 10:11 AM, "David Janes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was just feeding the microformats.org home page into my hAtom parser > for a demo and noticed that it doesn't have an "updated" class on the > date. > > I.e. this: > > September 13th, 2006 > > should look like this: > > Septembe

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Profile-examples

On 9/4/06 7:06 PM, "Chris Messina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, let's do some research and see what we come up with. Yes, researching examples on the Web is important, but keeping the scope simple and specific is important as well, otherwise you might find you have way too much research to

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Profile-examples

Brian's suggestion is a good one, user-profiles. Chris, consider solving the specific problem (principle #1) of user-profiles rather than expanding it to include groups. In addition, I very much recommend figuring out ways to just stick with hCard to represent aspects of the profile, rather than

Re: [uf-discuss] Pingerati

On 8/31/06 12:34 AM, "Paul Kinlan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I know I keep going on about pingerati. No problem at all Paul. > But has anyone noticed that > it hasn't updated the list of recently updated pings in a couple of > days. Noticed. That operates on a different system fro

Re: [uf-discuss] Citation: next steps?

On 8/30/06 11:29 AM, "Bruce D'Arcus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> As for using hCalendar, I think that would be great to mark up >> conferences, meetings, etc, in citations, but I don't think a citation >> microformat should *require* it. According to the hcard-authoring wiki >> page, a minimal h

Re: [uf-discuss] Citation: next steps?

Brian, This is a good summary to date and deserving of being captured on the citation-brainstorming page. Thanks, Tantek On 8/29/06 3:19 PM, "Brian Suda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Mike, thanks for bringing this up. > > I spent a good portion of the weekend looking at my earlier stra

Re: [uf-discuss] Pingerati

On 8/29/06 5:24 AM, "Scott Reynen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Aug 29, 2006, at 6:19 AM, Paul Kinlan wrote: > >> Has anybody had any luck getting technorati to send pingerati pings to >> a service. I have asked to get hCard Requests to my web-site so that >> I can do some analysis but I have

Re: [uf-discuss] xFolk thoughts

On 8/27/06 11:11 AM, "Brian Suda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been playing around with xFolk and now that more sites are > beginning to implement this along with Pingerati indexing them. I had > a few thoughts that could be added to the spec. > > 1) There is no date for when the link was

Re: [uf-discuss] Ma.gnolia now supports rel=me

On 8/21/06 11:48 PM, "Chris Messina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm happy to see a Citizen Agency client make us so proud: > > http://ma.gnolia.com/blog/2006/08/21/a-microadvance-in-our-microformats > > ;) Chris, this is definitely worth noting on the xfn-implementations page: http://microf

Re: [uf-discuss] citation: another example of practice in the wild

On 8/16/06 5:50 PM, "Bruce D'Arcus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/16/06, Michael McCracken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I tried my imagination on one of my straw examples. Does this fit what >> you were expecting? > > In general, yes, though I'm not that comfortable commenting on the > de

Re: [uf-discuss] Media Metadata, Specifically Video Thumbnails

On 8/16/06 2:46 PM, "Steve Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 02:34 PM 8/16/2006, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote: >> It has been suggested that using class-thumbnail on the element >> would work for making thumbnails. Charles do you have a reference for who has done the suggesting and when

Re: [uf-discuss] Getting started with microformats

On 8/9/06 10:41 AM, "Chris Messina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So I had the question posed to me yet again: > > "Ok, we know we should do microformats... but we're not sure where to > start. Can you help us out?" > > Seeing as how I'm probably not alone here, I was going to create a > "Getting

Re: [uf-discuss] Joining CalConnect?

Here is the irony. It is *easier* and takes *less time* to offer iCalendar feeds to customers by: * marking up your events with hCalendar * using an hCalendar->iCalendar proxy Rather than: * pick another URL for the .ics * setup your web server to do proper mimetypes * figuring out how to ex

Re: [uf-discuss] Sandbox, WP theme with support for hAtom

On 8/6/06 2:36 PM, "Bill Humphries" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scott of Plaintxt.org has released Sandbox, a minimalist Wordpress > theme with support for hAtom. > > http://www.plaintxt.org/themes/sandbox/ > > It's available for download as well as use on wordpress.com hosted > sites. Hey Bil

[uf-discuss] Re: Gender in vCard?

On 8/4/06 1:28 PM, "Chris Messina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Microsoft makes reference to a gender field in vCard... is this just > them extending the format? > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/dhtml/reference/properties/vcard_nam > e.asp Odd - never seen that before. There is a p

Re: [uf-discuss] hCard and vCard

On 8/4/06 11:20 AM, "Ryan Cannon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If hCard is to be a 1:1 representation of vCard To be clear, this is precisely the scoping that John Allsopp brought up as what was documented vs. what is actually used and needed in hCard. This is my fault for conflating "1:1 repres

Re: [uf-discuss] Widgetbox thinks outside the box...

On 8/4/06 5:02 AM, "Kevin Lawver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I still need to write down the parsing rules for ModuleT and put them on > the wiki (among other things). I'll try to reach out to them and see > what they have to say. Kevin thanks very much for following-up with this. The widget-*

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats in french

On 8/3/06 4:39 PM, "Rémi Prévost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you're a francophone microformateer, you may be interested in this. > > Christophe Ducamp translated a huge part of the microformats wiki in > french[1]. He did an amazing job by providing an amazing amount of > information for fra

Re: WordCamp (was Re: [uf-discuss] Re: hCard and vCard)

> I'm going. My main interest will be in strong-arming Atom 1.0 support > into WP, but I'd also be interested in that as well. > > On Aug 3, 2006, at 9:50 AM, Tantek Çelik wrote: > >> http://upcoming.org/event/90382/ >> >> Who else on the list

Re: [uf-discuss] hCard and vCard

On 8/3/06 5:07 AM, "Ben Buchanan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> For example (and I've done this myself on numerous >> occasions) "come and hear Ben >> Barren speak about..." is really not contact >> information, but this is a very commonly cited example of how one >> might use hCard (for example,

Re: [uf-discuss] Live Clipboard Screen Cast

On 8/3/06 7:37 AM, "brian suda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For those who haven't seen this Live ClipBoard yet, there was a > screencast released yesterday. > > Charles Torre of Channel9 interviewed Paresh Suthar and Matt Augustine > about Live Clipboard and Simple Sharing Extensions (SSE). The

WordCamp (was Re: [uf-discuss] Re: hCard and vCard)

I will be attending WordCamp this weekend: http://upcoming.org/event/90382/ Who else on the list will be going? Perhaps we can brainstorm about what microformats support we can to add to WordPress in a day. Thanks, Tantek On 8/3/06 9:26 AM, "Chris Messina" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No r

Re: [uf-discuss] Mozilla microformats development thread and suggestions for awareness

On 8/1/06 2:52 PM, "Chris Casciano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Aug 1, 2006, at 5:31 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote: > >> For anyone involved with thinking about how to develop support for >> microformats, what to develop etc., this (thanks to Niall Kennedy &g

[uf-discuss] Mozilla microformats development thread and suggestions for awareness

For anyone involved with thinking about how to develop support for microformats, what to develop etc., this (thanks to Niall Kennedy for the tip) is excellent reading: Alex and Sherman are great guys and

Re: [uf-discuss] Easy book citations

On 7/30/06 10:35 AM, "Simon Cozens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tantek ?elik: >> http://microformats.org/wiki/process >> Second, the folks working on the citation microformat to date have done *a >> lot* of work along the lines of the process which I recommend you read to >> understand the curre

Re: [uf-discuss] Easy book citations

On 7/30/06 9:47 AM, "Fred Stutzman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 30 Jul 2006, Simon Cozens wrote: > >> Fred Stutzman: >>> I believe our task could be as simple as microformatting the bib format. >> >> That's a good idea, but could easily get bogged down in months of committee >> work (ht

Re: [uf-discuss] Easy book citations

On 7/30/06 1:53 AM, "Simon Cozens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello folks; please don't shoot, I'm new here. Hi Simon and welcome to the list! > I've noticed on the wiki that > there's a relatively long discussion about citation formats, tending to focus > on creating microformats for full ac

Re: [uf-discuss] [pf] Ideas and initial efforts

Andrew these are very good problem statements for picoformats. I encourage you to add them to the picoformats wiki page in a new "Problem Statement" section. http://microformats.org/wiki/picoformats Let's get your ideas on the wiki so folks can iterate on them and add new ones as well. Thanks,

Re: [uf-discuss] OSCON BOF

On 7/27/06 5:02 PM, "Ian Kallen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Come hither: OSCON 2006 Microformats BOF > When: Thurs, July 27 8:00pm - 9:00pm > Where: D137-138 > > In my fit of fielding preparations for this trip to Portland, I > neglected to mention on this list the BOF @ OSCON tonight. I've bee

Re: [uf-discuss] Re: Exploratory discussion: content rating

On 7/27/06 10:42 AM, "Kevin Marks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jul 27, 2006, at 10:05 AM, Scott Reynen wrote: >> I didn't mean to suggest you weren't following the process. I was >> just trying to point out the humorous situation I was imagining, in >> which someone walks by, sees you look

Re: [uf-discuss] Exploratory discussion: content rating

In short, this is a solved problem. "content ratings" are just tags, and... * Use xFolk to tag resources (anything with a URL). * Use rel-tag to tag content (e.g. blog posts). If you want to specify specific "content rating" systems, use the rel-tag tagspace feature to do so. E.g. you can tag som

Re: [uf-discuss] Microformats opening blurb...

On 7/26/06 11:52 PM, "Joe Andrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > May I suggest a revision to the opening blurb? Joe, how about you add an entry here to start with? http://microformats.org/wiki/what-are-microformats Thanks, Tantek ___ microformats-di

Re: [uf-discuss] geo and named locations

On 7/23/06 10:40 PM, "John Allsopp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It actually makes me wonder whether a element geo will ever exist by > itself, unattached from an hCard? Indeed, the same might go for adrs. > > This issue has come up in putting together presentations and so on on > ufs. I am tryi

Re: [uf-discuss] geo and named locations

On 7/23/06 10:09 PM, "John Allsopp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "hCard is a simple, open, distributed format for people, places, > companies, and other organizations. Although its origins lie in > vCard, from which it takes its name, practical use has demonstrated > that a more general format may

Re: [uf-discuss] origin of class attribute approach in microformats ?

On 7/23/06 5:22 PM, "Karl Dubost" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Guillaume, > > Le 22 juil. 06 à 08:35, Guillaume Lebleu a écrit : >> why the approach has evolved to become the following "class >> attribute-approach": > [...] >> instead of the following mixed-namespace approach: > [...] >> Both app

Re: [uf-discuss] geo and named locations

On 7/23/06 9:30 PM, "John Allsopp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know I am being a pedant, but I'm trying to clarify this as much as > possible, because I am doing some presentations, workshops and other > general evangelism of uf and I find geo and adr really good simple uf > to use as example w

Re: [uf-discuss] origin of class attribute approach in microformats ?

On 7/22/06 3:30 AM, "Ben Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 22 Jul 2006, at 03:15, Tantek Çelik wrote: >> should these all be in the FAQ? > > I think we should definitely have this covered on the Wiki; it seems > in the same spirit as dispelling the

Re: [uf-discuss] origin of class attribute approach in microformats ?

Guillame, Since you put it in the subject, regarding semantic class names, see: * http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/goodclassnames * http://tantek.com/log/2002/12.html#L20021216 * http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/07/18/competent-classing * http://tantek.com/log/2004/07.html#d20t2359 Regarding you

Re: [uf-discuss] hcard question

Hi Ted! On 7/20/06 11:05 AM, "Ted Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I have two urls associated with a person, i.e. profile and blog, how do I > define these in the link? > > I've tried class="url type". Is there a way to get the hcard to say > profile: linkurl > Blog: linkurl The short ans

Re: [uf-discuss] creators updated

On 7/19/06 6:07 PM, "Dmitry Baranovskiy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've added my bugs to the pages and also created page for hReview > feedback: > http://microformats.org/wiki/hreview-creator-feedback > and add there my bugs as well. Cheers Thanks very much Dmitry! Tantek ___

Re: [uf-discuss] creators updated

Andy, Dmitry, Thanks VERY MUCH for this feedback, this is exactly the kind of bugs, suggested fixes, and feature requests that are helpful. I have just did a tiny bit of references/relatedpages cleanup on hCard and hCalendar and have linked to a couple of pages on the wiki which can be used to ga

Re: [uf-discuss] Currency microformat

On 7/19/06 3:33 PM, "Andy Mabbett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andy Mabbett > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >> Something like: >> >>6 to >>20 >>shillings > > Ack! That should be: > > 6 to > 20 > shillings Criticisms: 1. A

Re: [uf-discuss] Currency microformat

Michael, I think it has not yet been shown by sufficient research that a "currency at this *historical* point in time" is a problem worthy of a solving with a microformat. Whether or not there is any specific interest on any of our parts to clearly mark something up, there needs to be research do

Re: [uf-discuss] "Must Ignore vs. Microformats"

On 7/19/06 10:34 AM, "Charles Iliya Krempeaux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > On 7/19/06, Tantek Çelik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 7/19/06 8:37 AM, "Frances Berriman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> http://cafe.

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