Hi,
Forgive me if this is going over old ground, I just joined this list and
couldn't find what I was looking for on the wiki. Are there any
particular conventions emerging for embedding an OpenID into a hCard?
The openid-brainstorming page mentions using hCard on providers profile
pages etc,
, John Panzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thom Shannon wrote:
Hi,
Forgive me if this is going over old ground, I just joined this
list and
couldn't find what I was looking for on the wiki. Are there any
particular conventions emerging for embedding an OpenID into a
hCard
openID users thinking they have to
remember to type http://;
Mike Kaply wrote:
The problem here is that there is concept of types in URLS
All parsers see is multiple URLS. We don't know which is the openid
URL...
Mike Kaply
On 2/20/07, John Panzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thom Shannon
networks have already verified their members via openID and
are just using that string in their member db.
anders conbere wrote:
On 2/20/07, Thom Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think it should also be possible to use openIDs in other elements than
just anchors. You don't necessarily want
?
On Feb 21, 2007, at 2:19 AM, Thom Shannon wrote:
I was picturing something more along the lines of a list of your
friends on your social network, each one with an openID, you'd then
want to copy and paste that to search for the same friend on the
other social network. No one needs to know it's
I believe it's using a tool that attempts to disable any tags it doesn't
recognise, possibly something like Anomy Sanitizer. Try using different
tags, as long as you have the class names you can use any tag, doesnt
have to be span. See if there are more suitable semantic elements you
can use,
it.
Benjamin West wrote:
Hi Thom,
On 2/22/07, Thom Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm trying to come up with a way to join the huge network of user groups
out there and make it easier to find user groups in your area.
Sorry, I'm a little confused: what network of user groups? What's a
user
ah! I was gonna do that!
Christian Heilmann wrote:
Just playing around...
http://icant.co.uk/sandbox/hcardtogooglemap/
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Sorry Ben! it was you. And you're right, the examples in the docs are a
bit misleading.
Ben Ward wrote:
On 25 Feb 2007, at 23:19, Thom Shannon wrote:
Brian Suda made a point at barcamp about the documentation using only
divs and spans, so people don't get confused and think
There has been some work on this, http://microformats.org/wiki/media-info
Marian Steinbach wrote:
Hello everybody!
I'd like to briefly introduce myself to the list.
I just joined the list because I am interested in the development of
(a) music microformats.
I am running an experimental
Just take the logo to http://www.tshirtstudio.com/, and get yourself
some microformat boxer shorts!
I might do that
Serdar Kiliç wrote:
On 23/06/2007, at 4:38 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
I see that we now have T-shirts for sale, with the microformat logo:
,
On 6/27/07, Thom Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
Just an idea, but maybe we could have a secondary name, and an end user
facing site showing what you can do with these things.
We could call it: Intelligent Web Pages or Smart Web Pages
Web pages that are intelligent enough or smart
I just think it would be good to bring these handy microformat driven
functions under a banner that isn't confused by the other things
microformats do. The idea of pulling these bits of data out of a page
and using them elsewhere is one of many features of microformats and
something that
HyperSense?
David Janes wrote:
On 6/28/07, Alex Faaborg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Right, we need a general user facing way of describing microformat
detection, in order to describe the various applications (like Web
browsers, feed readers and extensions like Operator) that let the
user take
Yeah, which is why I dont think we should throw away all that effort but
use it. Design a logo that echoes the MF logo, maybe even base the name
on it?
Microform
Microtag
It will be a subset of the full range of microformat standards but
clearly part of the same thing.
Andy Mabbett wrote:
Exactly! We need a brand and a website that introduces people to the
concept, tells them where to get the plugins or the right browsers and
possibly encourages them to put pressure on their web guys to implement
them, Want x's on your site? Then use Microformats
Alex Faaborg wrote:
One
, at 23:09, Thom Shannon wrote:
I know this topic comes up a lot and we'd all like to see
Microformats change the lives of millions of ordinary internet users,
that's why we're all here!
My friend just asked me an interesting question, is Microformats the
right name for it?
Sorry
-on for your
web browser to save typing things out
Ben Ward wrote:
On 28 Jun 2007, at 14:40, Thom Shannon wrote:
I get your point, but as Alex pointed out people are interested in
this microformats thing but dont want to call it that, journos are
refusing to talk about it because the term
yes, it's a thing, it's different. FF3 can't just add any address you
see to your address book, its a specific kind of address that just looks
the same, and you need a browser or plugin or something that understands
that specific thing
So whats the thing called, micro-what? or Resuable Data
, will Thunderbird?
-Original Message-
From: Thom Shannon
yes, it's a thing, it's different. FF3 can't just add any address you
see to your address book, its a specific kind of address that just looks
the same, and you need a browser or plugin or something that understands
that specific thing
Yeah microformats do lots of great and different things, auto tagging
when someone saves a link is a good example of some useful functionality
that can just work without any new name. I think hCard and hCal are new,
this isn't something their web browser hasn't done before, and people
will
write some js to use the dom to find the microformats and pass to flash
via the externalinterface object.
Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:
Hello,
Does anyone here have experience reading Microformats and semantic
HTML from a Flash app?
Specifically, reading them from the HTML page the Flash
Frances Berriman wrote:
The address element is for signifying the page author. This'd
probably suit what you're looking for (address class=vcard etc.).
So it is:
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/html3/address.html
I like a posh answer! Thanks.
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did you carry on working on the idea of showing whats a microformat in
the page? There was talk of a mouse cursor change when a user hovers
over. The last mockup i saw had an icon at the end of the address bar
with action. I think both of those would be a good way forward.
I started a thread
Where can I get a few uf stickers to pass around at my talk at geekup?
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Is there a list anywhere of sites that are making use of microformats in
interesting ways?
Obviously lots of people are publishing them because its so easy to do,
but I've not come across many places really taking advantage of them.
There's technorati and pingerati of course, and dopplr lets
maybe a web based forum would be better? it's what less techie people
are used to
Andy Mabbett wrote:
Once Firefox three launches, and microformats are not only more widely
available to end users, but inevitably discussed more widely on-line and
in the media, there is almost certainly going to
Do any of the uf guys at brighton right now have some uf stickers? can i please
beg for some? :)
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I recently gave a presentation at GeekUp Liverpool, I've posted the talk
up [1] and added a link on the wiki. It was a fairly simple talk and I
tried to focus on why you'd want to publish microformats, how they're
going to be used in the future with the next generation of browsers and
smarter
Is there a good posh way to caption images?
Perhaps there's room for creating super mini microformats, based on
things that most here have just dismissed as posh. There's often more
than one way of doing something with semantic html. Just an idea...
I'm working on a semantic rich text editor for CMS's. I've written up a
few of my ideas so far here
http://www.ts0.com/2007/09/semantic-rich-text-editor.asp
Any input much appreciated!
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just for the hell of it, here's a yahoo pipe that uses optimus to pull
out hcards from a url
http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.info?_id=CgaSycxm3BGX8R0I6kjTQA
Dmitry Baranovskiy wrote:
Hello everyone,
Inspired by Brian's X2V[1] and Drew's presentation Can Your Website
be Your API?[2] I wrote
Whatever character you have before that f isn't 7-bit Usenet compliant.
i'd imagine it was a micro symbol :)
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This isn't strictly microformats related but I thought a few people on
here might have some advice. Is there an accepted reliable way of
dividing a full name into given name and family name?
Actually I'm sure the short answer is no, but is there a least evil way?
The text encoding is getting a bit messed up somewhere, this string
seems to break google, %2C%20%C3%A8%20
Dejan Kozina wrote:
Hello list.
I'm a freelance web/mobile developer and PHP coder in Trieste, Italy.
After looking at microformats with interest for some time I've just
started to test
the only error i see in firebug is due to some code expecting an element
with an id of navi_1_1_1 and that id doesn't exist
Dennis Petersen wrote:
Hi,
We are currently starting to implement various micro formats into our
site. One example for a site full of vcards is
One of the main drivers behind uf is that they build on existing tools
and knowledge. Using existing html markup means people can use WYSIWYG
tools to edit them and it also removes a small psychological for people
who are comfortable with html but put off by such syntax. uf also aims
to solve
I wonder if this would solve a problem I've had in the past - marking
up variations on a name, within a text, to indicate that they all
refer to the same person (eg. Captain Cook or James Cook or just
simply Cook). cite with a title attribute could probably do that,
with a unique full name
Jeremy Keith wrote:
The spec says that the element should contain a reference to other
sources and even gives an example of citing a person:
I had a look at the specs too and it did seem to make sense. If you're
referring to something someone said then that's clearly a citation. What
if you're
I've just updated an old greasemonkey script that adds links to friends
sites as you type their name. It'll now add a hCard and XFN.
http://www.ts0.com/2007/12/friend-links.asp
Now I copied the HTML structure from Jeremy's site, he uses a span to
specify the hCard. I was wondering though if cite
I've just installed a new blogging platform, the blogroll supports XFN
out of the box which is nice. I just noticed in the source it's writing
it like this rel=contact;friend ;met;co-worker
There's no mention of using ; as a seperator in the XFN specs. I just
wanted to check I wasn't missing
You're right. It oughta be space seperated. Which blogging platform
is doing it that way
It's blogengine.net
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Not sure if anyone's mentioned this before but the new version of Apples
Mail has functionality similar to what microformats is trying to enable
(hCard and hCal)
You can mouse over data in an email like addresses, phone numbers and
dates, then add them to your address book/calendar.
Can someone please enlighten me as to the correct values for this type link
above?
It depends on the implementation but basically you want to link to
another page and say that it is also you, using rel=me. The easiest
way to get your xfn links links detected by Googles Social Graph API is
to
perhaps there was prior discussion and agreement that was just a long
time ago? Have you searched the archives or asked Tantek directly?
Andy Mabbett wrote:
The change made recently, to the hCard spec:
http://microformats.org/wiki?title=hcard-parsingdiff=nextoldid=25563
affects not only
Hi, I just added an advocacy email to the wiki. It would be great if
more sites would publish XFN now google have launched their SG API.
http://microformats.org/wiki/advocacy-email-samples#Add_XFN_to_social_network_profiles
Please have a look over it and suggest any changes. Then send it out to
What is the response to the privacy argument? As a carefree technophile
I'm happy publishing personal info on the web. But when you're trying to
convince a major social network to add semantics that makes their users
personal information easier to harvest and possibly abuse. Is there any
Last year, I brought up the idea of something I named hprivacy
Nice idea, if there was some way to integrate it with oAuth so you could
give the proxy permission to access that data in a standard way that
could work really well. The only problem is it would take a fair bit of
work for the
Andy Mabbett wrote:
As I have pointed out previously, this is contrary to the intentions of
the writers of the HTML specification:
looks like a bug, I suggest submitting it to the author,
http://www.kaply.com/weblog/operator/
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Andy Mabbett wrote:
It's not just in Operator; as I said in my original post, rel-lint for
one has the same problem.
Then surely it's just a common bug? If the specs say it should be so
then it's an oversight on the developers part and someone should kindly
let them know.
Standardisation might be interesting here as well. For instance back
to blog comments. Comments from within aggregators would likely be
simpler where comment form definitions can be established
programmatically.
The problem is that comment spammers would love that too!
You could always add
Hi,
Should parsers use the title of an anchor for the value of a location
property on hCard, or does that title pattern only apply to explicit
abbreviations? (using abbr). Thinking about it now the latter does make
sense, it's probably wrong to infer that the title is more important
than the
The address element is a valid and semantic way of claiming
ownership/authorship of a document, I use it on my blog, and my accounts
link to my blog claiming it's me.
A url is a valid and important piece of someones identity, it's not ???
is friends with ??? it's http://x is friends with
Just as an example of where URLs are more than enough, here's a way you
could use Googles Social Graph API.
Bob signs up to new fangled social n etwork, he's prompted for a profile
address to find if any of his friends are already on here.
NewFangled asks Google for his relationships, G
It turns out no one else is on NewFangled yet, but NewFangled stores
the URLs that Bob lays a claim to, his flickr and twitter pages
(stored as a hash!).
What's the collision rate when hypothetical implementations are
unnecessarily hashed? ~D
I just don't like the idea of storing peoples
Here's my contribution!
http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/24705
Microformat marked up BT directory searches.
Should only have taken me 5 mins but thanks to the crappiness and
inconsistencies of BT it took all evening! I mean why does one search
type say Tel: and the other Telephone: !?!?
Hi,
I've modified the Mac only bluetooth user script for operator to work on
windows. It's based on the script on Mike Kaply's site (does anyone know
who wrote that? Was it Mike?)
It requires the Widcomm bluetooth drivers (they're the most common, if
you have c:\Program Files\WIDCOMM then
I have added a preliminary draft for a possible jCard specification to
the wiki at http://microformats.org/wiki/jcard.
The content is based on what I read from the discussion list so far.
The intention was to have a reference for further discussion and for
solidifying a candidate for a jCard
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