Re: Skylake works on Dell Latitude E5570

2017-07-18 Thread David Coppa
Il 19 lug 2017 00:36, "Mihai Popescu" ha scritto: > Hibernate (apm -Z) does not work. > I don't know if it's related to the Skylake support at all. Maybe KARL? I think I saw a message about this on list. Yes, see: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-bugs=150039046614972

Re: syspatch glitch

2017-07-18 Thread Theo de Raadt
> It seems syspatch looks at the current machine capabilities instead of > which kernel is running when it decides on if /bsd is /bsd.sp or /bsd.mp. > > I tried to install OpenBSD 6.1 to a USB connected CF card that later will > run in an alix2d13 that has got one core, but I did the installation

Re: Getting Dell RAID status via SNMP

2017-07-18 Thread Johan Huldtgren
On 2017-07-18 19:45, Stuart Henderson wrote: On 2017-07-18, Jibby Jeremiah wrote: ​Stuart H wrote : So for now you would need to run bioctl to fetch status for this. Thanks again Stuart. But I look at the man page and it is not clear to me how to use this:

Re: Openbsd 6.1 and Current Console Freezes and lockup Proxmox PVE5.0

2017-07-18 Thread Tom Smyth
Hi Tim, all I have submitted a bug report, just now regarding Proxmox 5.0 or earlier support im afraid im not familiar with the earlier versions and we were testing the platform to use with openBSD on top. problem, the OpenBSD VGA Console of the VM freezes when OpenBSD 6.1 release or 6.1

Re: Openbsd 6.1 and Current Console Freezes and lockup Proxmox PVE5.0

2017-07-18 Thread trondd
On Tue, July 18, 2017 8:14 pm, Tom Smyth wrote: > Apologies... > Incomplete Mail ... was feeling Trigger happy and now im certainly > feeling uncomfortably dumb :) > > proper bug report to come tomorrow, > Its a long story... :/ > Thanks > When you do come back, mention if this is new with

Re: Openbsd 6.1 and Current Console Freezes and lockup Proxmox PVE5.0

2017-07-18 Thread Tom Smyth
Apologies... Incomplete Mail ... was feeling Trigger happy and now im certainly feeling uncomfortably dumb :) proper bug report to come tomorrow, Its a long story... :/ Thanks On 19 July 2017 at 01:00, Tom Smyth wrote: > Hello, > > Im trying to deploy OpenBSD on

Openbsd 6.1 and Current Console Freezes and lockup Proxmox PVE5.0

2017-07-18 Thread Tom Smyth
Hello, Im trying to deploy OpenBSD on Proxmox VE 5.0 (QEMU) /KVM Hypervisor running on Debian sarge Im noticing the console locks up (either Serial console ) or VGA Console locks up in the following circumstances 1) during installation of OpenBSD (when the installer is copying files to disk)

Re: Good looking fonts in Java apps

2017-07-18 Thread Bernard Mentink
Thanks to everyone for the suggestions .. B. On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2017-07-18, Bryan Linton wrote: > > On 2017-07-19 06:39:04, Bernard Mentink wrote: > >> Thank Bryan, > >> > >> I guess that

Re: Good looking fonts in Java apps

2017-07-18 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2017-07-18, Bryan Linton wrote: > On 2017-07-19 06:39:04, Bernard Mentink wrote: >> Thank Bryan, >> >> I guess that would have to go in .kshrc? I think that is the default shell >> for OpenBSD right? >> > > It would depend on the shell you're actually

Re: Getting Dell RAID status via SNMP

2017-07-18 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2017-07-18, Jibby Jeremiah wrote: > ​Stuart H wrote : >> So for now you would need to run bioctl to fetch status for this. > > Thanks again Stuart. But I look at the man page and it is not clear to me > how to use this: > > [root@myname ~]# bioctl -q sd0 > sd0:

Re: Skylake works on Dell Latitude E5570

2017-07-18 Thread Mihai Popescu
> Hibernate (apm -Z) does not work. > I don't know if it's related to the Skylake support at all. Maybe KARL? I think I saw a message about this on list.

Re: Good looking fonts in Java apps

2017-07-18 Thread Bryan Linton
On 2017-07-19 06:39:04, Bernard Mentink wrote: > Thank Bryan, > > I guess that would have to go in .kshrc? I think that is the default shell > for OpenBSD right? > It would depend on the shell you're actually using. If you haven't installed or aren't using another shell,

Re: Skylake works on Dell Latitude E5570

2017-07-18 Thread Jan Stary
On Jul 13 15:19:12, h...@stare.cz wrote: > This is current/amd64 on Dell Latitude E5570 (full dmesg below). > Skylake started working; this is a diff to the previous dmesg: > > --- dmesg/dell-latitude-E5570.20170627Tue Jun 27 14:32:18 2017 > +++ dmesg/dell-latitude-E5570.20170713

Re: ntpd clock unsynced in vm

2017-07-18 Thread Theo de Raadt
> If your clock drift is worse than that, your clock is broken. Which > alas is the case for vm. I agree with this statement. About 20 years ago, I defined the minimum system we attempt to run well on as IPL32 or I32LP64, with a MMU. Soon this was redefined as with an FPU as well, after which

Re: ntpd clock unsynced in vm

2017-07-18 Thread Christian Weisgerber
On 2017-07-18, tomr wrote: > In playing with vmd, I'm unable to get the guest's ntpd to sync to its > upstream ntp (whether that's the host ntpd or poot.ntp.org). The guest > is losing about 1 second for every 2 that pass. To build a bridge between this question and Mike's

Re: Getting Dell RAID status via SNMP

2017-07-18 Thread Jibby Jeremiah
​Stuart H wrote : > So for now you would need to run bioctl to fetch status for this. Thanks again Stuart. But I look at the man page and it is not clear to me how to use this: [root@myname ~]# bioctl -q sd0 sd0: , serial 0077a1dc0b3da755200084e6a0a06d86 [root@myname

Re: AMD64 modern laptop recommendation

2017-07-18 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
I only now realized that a message belonging to this thread was to me only, so the response only went to the originator of that message, not to the list. The meat of that message was -- B< -- > [ ... ] Hm. Could be their market segment isn't properly represented in .au then

Re: Good looking fonts in Java apps

2017-07-18 Thread Bernard Mentink
Thank Bryan, I guess that would have to go in .kshrc? I think that is the default shell for OpenBSD right? Cheers, Bernie On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 8:37 PM, Bryan Linton wrote: > On 2017-07-18 13:19:27, Bernard Mentink wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > > > I am

Re: OT: protonmail mail body

2017-07-18 Thread jungle Boogie
On 18 July 2017 at 09:29, Eric Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, 12 Jul 2017, Mihai Popescu wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I preffer to keep it calm, but some people on the list are using >> protonmail and their mails are impossible to read directly on the >> list. I think they are

Re: OT: protonmail mail body

2017-07-18 Thread Theo de Raadt
> As things stand, ProtonMail is not a suitable client for writing to this > mailing list. > > Your messages are nearly unreadable. Maybe it should be blocked. Then the users there can tell them to fix it. Would have no downside for me.

Re: OT: protonmail mail body

2017-07-18 Thread Theo de Raadt
> On Wed, 12 Jul 2017, Mihai Popescu wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I preffer to keep it calm, but some people on the list are using > > protonmail and their mails are impossible to read directly on the > > list. I think they are destroying the list, maybe they should turn > > that feature off. Here

Re: OT: protonmail mail body

2017-07-18 Thread Eric Johnson
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017, Mihai Popescu wrote: > Hello, > > I preffer to keep it calm, but some people on the list are using > protonmail and their mails are impossible to read directly on the > list. I think they are destroying the list, maybe they should turn > that feature off. Here is what I see

Re: Getting Dell RAID status via SNMP

2017-07-18 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2017-07-18, Jibby Jeremiah wrote: > Thanks for the reply Stuart. > > We are running 6.0 and here is dmesg - I x'ed out some info on this second > line - do not think it was important Thanks - so this is using mfii(4), the driver for this doesn't implement sensors yet

Re: Verified auth tty ioctl()s implementation details

2017-07-18 Thread Theo de Raadt
> > Now, I am running on the assumption that these ioctl()s were > > implemented as a kernel-side component of doas's "password timeout" > > functionality as observed when using the "persist" configuration > > keyword. From that, my question is whether there is any particular > > reason for

Re: Getting Dell RAID status via SNMP

2017-07-18 Thread Jibby Jeremiah
Thanks for the reply Stuart. We are running 6.0 and here is dmesg - I x'ed out some info on this second line - do not think it was important OpenBSD 6.0-stable (GENERIC.MP) #1: Mon Feb 13 13:59:48 EST 2017 ​bsduser@-XXX-X-XX:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/ GENERIC.MP RTC

Re: IPv6 with wide-dhcpv6

2017-07-18 Thread Mike
On 7/17/2017 11:09 PM, David Higgs wrote: >[snip] > After a good amount of trial and error, it appears that Comcast will only > dole out a single /128 via DHCPv6. Annoying but easy enough to work around > with pf(4) nat-to and some static RFC 4193 prefixes. I have Comcast as my ISP. Comcast's

Re: Best place for VM images

2017-07-18 Thread Mike Larkin
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 09:15:41AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > Sure. I don't have a really strong opinion one way or the other. When I > > mentioned I put mine in a dedicated partition, I use /data/vmm or various > > places in /home if I've already fully partitioned the machine in question. >

Re: ntpd clock unsynced in vm

2017-07-18 Thread Mike Larkin
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 08:45:04PM +1000, tomr wrote: > Good time-of-day, > > In playing with vmd, I'm unable to get the guest's ntpd to sync to its > upstream ntp (whether that's the host ntpd or poot.ntp.org). The guest > is losing about 1 second for every 2 that pass. I'm using a recent >

Re: Best place for VM images

2017-07-18 Thread Theo de Raadt
> Sure. I don't have a really strong opinion one way or the other. When I > mentioned I put mine in a dedicated partition, I use /data/vmm or various > places in /home if I've already fully partitioned the machine in question. I don't think a seperate partition is neccessary. However I think

Re: Best place for VM images

2017-07-18 Thread Mike Larkin
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 09:08:10AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > I've been putting mine in a dedicated partition. /var/vmm should probably > > be its own partition if used. > > > > nodev, nosuid are probably good choices there too. > > That won't work. People without an additional partition

Re: Verified auth tty ioctl()s implementation details

2017-07-18 Thread Theo de Raadt
> On 2017-07-18, multiplex'd wrote: > > Thank you for explaining; I suspected the reasoning was such. Speaking > > specifically > > about ports, is there a way to start a port build as root and then drop > > priviledges > > (in a similar manner to the base system's build

Re: Best place for VM images

2017-07-18 Thread Theo de Raadt
> I've been putting mine in a dedicated partition. /var/vmm should probably > be its own partition if used. > > nodev, nosuid are probably good choices there too. That won't work. People without an additional partition will get these mount options. And anyways those system flags don't make any

Re: Best place for VM images

2017-07-18 Thread Leo Unglaub
Hey, Hey friends, what is the best/recommended place to store the vmm images. In man 5 vm.conf is an example with/var/vmm/, is this the best location? Also if /var/vmm is its own partition, what would be the best mount options for it. I would assume nodev, nosuid are good. Any

ntpd clock unsynced in vm

2017-07-18 Thread tomr
Good time-of-day, In playing with vmd, I'm unable to get the guest's ntpd to sync to its upstream ntp (whether that's the host ntpd or poot.ntp.org). The guest is losing about 1 second for every 2 that pass. I'm using a recent snapshot on both host and guest on a 1st gen thinkpad X1 carbon

Re: Choice of sis(4) versus vr(4) ?

2017-07-18 Thread Martijn Rijkeboer
Hi Lars, On 07/18/17 11:11, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2017-07-17, Lars Noodén wrote: >> I'm looking to refurbish an old device and will probably add a network >> card to it. Are there any reasons based on the current drivers or the >> hardware itself to choose sis(4)

Re: Restoring /altroot

2017-07-18 Thread Raimo Niskanen
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 08:18:25AM -0400, Nick Holland wrote: > On 07/17/17 05:50, Raimo Niskanen wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 10:46:14PM -0400, Nick Holland wrote: > >> On 07/14/17 09:00, Raimo Niskanen wrote: > >> > Hi misc@. > >> > > >> > I wonder how to restore from an /altroot backup?

Re: Good looking fonts in Java apps

2017-07-18 Thread Bryan Linton
On 2017-07-18 13:19:27, Bernard Mentink wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I am running a Java app launched by javaws (IcedTea-web) and am finding the > fonts terrible, does anyone know how I can get better anti-aliased fonts? > I don't know about javaws, but for regular stand-alone

Re: Verified auth tty ioctl()s implementation details

2017-07-18 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2017-07-18, multiplex'd wrote: > Thank you for explaining; I suspected the reasoning was such. Speaking > specifically > about ports, is there a way to start a port build as root and then drop > priviledges > (in a similar manner to the base system's build

Re: Getting Dell RAID status via SNMP

2017-07-18 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2017-07-17, Jibby Jeremiah wrote: > Hi folks, > > On HP HW we can query the RAID status of a system remotely with snmpwalk on > > .1.3.6.1.4.1.30155.2.1.2.1.5.3 > > And you get back a status of one of the following 3 : > - online > - pfail > - rebuild > > Works great!

Re: Choice of sis(4) versus vr(4) ?

2017-07-18 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2017-07-17, Lars Noodén wrote: > I'm looking to refurbish an old device and will probably add a network > card to it. Are there any reasons based on the current drivers or the > hardware itself to choose sis(4) or vr(4) over one or the other on > i386 -curren? > >

Re: CVS: tag exploration

2017-07-18 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2017-07-17, Daniil Berendeev wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to backfill the changes in 6.1 to > https://openbsd.org/plus61.html and update > https://openbsd.org/plus.html, but I faced a little problem: how do I > find out the last revision number before the

Re: Compiling Linux source on OpenBSD

2017-07-18 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2017-07-18, Bernard Mentink wrote: > Hi all, > > This is my first time on OpenBSD and am really loving it. I had my HP > Pavilion desktop booting into a Gnome3 desktop in no time (.. had so many > issues trying to boot FreeBSD, gave up) > > My question is regarding

Re: syspatch glitch

2017-07-18 Thread Raimo Niskanen
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 02:20:00PM +0200, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: > On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 12:04:19PM +0200, Raimo Niskanen wrote: > > It seems syspatch looks at the current machine capabilities instead of > > which kernel is running when it decides on if /bsd is /bsd.sp or /bsd.mp. > > Hi. > >

Re: Verified auth tty ioctl()s implementation details

2017-07-18 Thread multiplex'd
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 04:39:10PM -0400, Ted Unangst wrote: > Yes, the difference is intentional. For pretty much exactly the reason you > noticed, although perhaps with the opposite result. A successful > authentication is not meant to be inherited by any random program or script > you run. A)

Re: AMD64 modern laptop recommendation

2017-07-18 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 08:37:56PM -0400, Radoslav_Mirza wrote: > To congratulate myself for 2 years of not smoking I want to buy a new medium > to high end laptop and install only OpenBSD on it. > > Does anyone run OpenBSD on a brand new laptop with good support? > > Any recommendations. I