Daniel Ouellet wrote:
However, I never thought I would have to remind you that BSD IS a
complete OS, kernel and userland standing on his two feets by itself
in one place.
BSD has and still does depend on GCC.
Even if you manage to successfully replace it tomorow, The BSD's have
depended on it
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007, STeve Andre' wrote:
On Saturday 15 December 2007 23:42:06 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 15 Dec 2007, Richard Stallman wrote:
For personal reasons, I do not browse the web from my computer. (I
also have not net connection much of the time.) To look at page I
send mail
On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 04:36:31PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote:
...
Remember all the people who accused me of lying because at some time
I described the presence of these recipes as the ports system
includes non-free software?
Actually, in the quote from the interview you refer first to
the
Gilles Chehade wrote:
I still know of many companies that did not switch to Linux because a
free software foundation provided them with a version of gcc that can
run on their proprietary OS and Richard still did not tell me why the
fsf promotes the use of proprietary software by porting free
ropers wrote:
On 15/12/2007, Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
do you give a no-recommendation to the internet as well?
Well, his past statements about not being able to view HTTPS pages,
catching web pages (browsing through email?) and receiving messages in
batches almost made
On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 11:56:43PM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Bengt Frost wrote:
On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 12:31:25PM -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote:
Finally as long as i do not hurt 'someone' (to mutch) then it must
be up to me to choose what i want to do, f.ex. install packages
William Boshuck wrote:
On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 04:36:18PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote:
Again, Richard made foul and faulty comments about OpenBSD first.
Neither one.
What I said was that I don't recommend OpenBSD because the ports
system suggests non-free programs.
You
Ray Percival wrote:
On Dec 15, 2007, at 8:21 PM, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
After reveiwing the OpenBSD Goals and Polices, it appears to me that
the intent is that OpenBSD should be a free/Open Source system. But
unless I am missing something that is not actually made clear. The
polices page
Ted Unangst wrote:
On 12/15/07, David H. Lynch Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
After reveiwing the OpenBSD Goals and Polices, it appears to me that
the intent is that OpenBSD should be a free/Open Source system. But
unless I am missing something that is not actually made clear. The
On 2007/12/16 12:22, vladas wrote:
bge0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT full-duplex,rxpause,txpause)
inet 192.168.11.10 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.11.255
re0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST
Richard Stallman wrote:
Torvalds' version of Linux is not free software, for this reason.
Ututo and gNewSense include a version of Linux which remove the
firmware blobs, in order to make it free software.
that's awesome, can users add these back in if they choose?
I suppose
On 12/16/07, David H. Lynch Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
Distribute:
4) To pass out or deliver.
By providing URL's in its ports system, OpenBSD distrubutes - passes
out/delivers,
the items pointed to by the URL's.
Some of them are non-free.
Dude, you're a comic genius! Absolutely
On 12/15/07, David H. Lynch Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I wrote a a BSD Licensed program to mailbomb jews.
Would that be acceptable within ports ?
Well now, this brings up an interesting point of jurisprudence. To
wit: does Godwin's Law apply here? One might argue that it only
kicks
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 02:56:52 +0100
Rico Secada [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Who am I Theo asked, a big fat nobody (maybe), but I started this
issue to begin with and after criticizing Theo for being unnecessary
rude to Richard I have noticed that Richard keeps avoiding the facts!
Richard you
On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 11:42:06PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Would you mind sharing the recipie ? That sounds like a great idea.
It's rather easy to do. I have done it just for fun.
You can also FTP download using mail. You send commands to a
server, it cuts in pieces the file to download
He got his cookie for that many years ago.
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 02:52:05AM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Daniel Ouellet wrote:
However, I never thought I would have to remind you that BSD IS a
complete OS, kernel and userland standing on his two feets by itself
in one place.
BSD
On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 08:33:11PM +0300, Dmitrij Czarkoff wrote:
I've got a D-Link DWL-G520+ wireless acx111-based PCI card. It is
listed as supported device on acx(4) man page. When I boot up my i386
box, I get it picked up by acx driver, but when I try to run dhclient
on acx0, I get no
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:07:59 +0100 Rico Secada wrote:
Hi.
I looked at the http://openbsd.org/i386.html#hardware, but ofcourse it
doesn't say anything about printers :-)
OpenPrinting.org is pretty good resource for printers, although it
focuses mostly to Linux systems. For example, see
David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Daniel Ouellet wrote:
However, I never thought I would have to remind you that BSD IS a
complete OS, kernel and userland standing on his two feets by itself
in one place.
BSD has and still does depend on GCC.
Has anyone on the OpenBSD devel team reviewed the
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 12:11:16AM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
L wrote:
For about 5 years now I've been looking for an operating system that
doesn't have the whole freedom of speech attached to it, since I don't
fall for that. This recent flamewar simply helped confirm my instinct
You can use OpenBSD to build a baby mulcher or a nookyoular weapon and
you have the choice to retain the source code.
You can use the GPL to build a puppy blood drainer or a dirty bomb
provided you deliver the source code with it.
On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 11:56:43PM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr.
Hi guys,
I just received an old Sun Netra T1 (105) that has an older version of
Solaris (SunOS 5.9). It has two 18GB SCSI drives, no cd or floppy drives.
There is a serial/LOM port that I can access and dual Ethernet ports. I can
get the ok prompt (Stop-A), the LOM prompt and boot SunOS in
I am not arguing; you are.
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 11:43:40AM +0530, V. Karthik Kumar wrote:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
Who cares? Opera is also in pots, who cares? I am sure we have
more of those things in there. It's exactly the same as having
windows binaries
On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 11:56:43PM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Bengt Frost wrote:
On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 12:31:25PM -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote:
Finally as long as i do not hurt 'someone' (to mutch) then it must
be up to me to choose what i want to do, f.ex. install packages
Greetings,
New DNS server setup, suppose to be authoritative for the
`transylvania.org.au` zone
but reverse lookup is not working - as it suppose to work.
-
# dig transylvania.org.au
Hi Girish
Thanks for your response
I saw the screenshot with the camera. ;)
Try removing USB hubs or any USB devices and boot.
In this moment I don't have any USB devices conected. I tried to start bsd.mp
kernel disabling the USB in the MotherBoard BIOS, but I received the same error
Hi
I have today updated (well tried) two OpenBSD -STABLE systems. One 4.0 and one
4.1.
First the kernel update and a reboot... No problem
Then a make obj make build of the userland. This gave me the following
error after a while...
--snip--
cc -c -O2 -pipe -I.
On 12/15/07, Gregg Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
An advantage of the term covenanted software is that it is not
likely to be construed as necessarily a negative term, and hence might
be acceptable to RMS et al. A related but less charitable term:
cultic. Others: the GPL Compact;
Theo de Raadt wrote:
Theo de Raadt wrote:
Richard seperated us out. Jack, don't go telling me that we may not
rail against Richard being a prick.
Well, no, you may. The problem is when two people sling poop on each other,
sooner or later it ends, and then all you've got is
Marc Balmer wrote:
Richard Stallman wrote:
I doubt someone who is truly unfriendly could organize a
hackathon, a friendly social event.
He may be perfectly friendly to others. What is relevant is that he
tends to be unfriendly to me.
What is relevant is that you are a hypocrite
David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Each of us should judge Richard according to his own standards,
words and acts.
Seems like that is precisely what most everybody posting to this
thread had been doing.
Emphasis on the word judge.
On Sunday 16 December 2007 17:13:49 Per-Olov SjC6holm wrote:
Hi
I have today updated (well tried) two OpenBSD -STABLE systems. One
4.0 and one 4.1.
First the kernel update and a reboot... No problem
Then a make obj make build of the userland. This gave me the
following error after a
Can you share some of them drugs you are on?
This is some good shit.
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 02:13:24AM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Theo de Raadt wrote:
Theo de Raadt wrote:
Richard seperated us out. Jack, don't go telling me that we may not
rail against Richard being a
On Dec 16, 2007 8:33 AM, mufurcz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greetings,
New DNS server setup, suppose to be authoritative for the
`transylvania.org.au` zone
but reverse lookup is not working - as it suppose to work.
# dig transylvania.org.au
Also, if you're going to be administering DNS you might want to
consider picking up a copy of the venerable DNS and BIND.
-Josh
On Dec 16, 2007 11:54 AM, Darren Spruell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 16, 2007 8:33 AM, mufurcz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greetings,
New DNS server setup,
new_guy wrote:
Hi guys,
I just received an old Sun Netra T1 (105) that has an older version of
Solaris (SunOS 5.9). It has two 18GB SCSI drives, no cd or floppy drives.
There is a serial/LOM port that I can access and dual Ethernet ports. I can
get the ok prompt (Stop-A), the LOM prompt and
Hi!
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 05:45:05PM +0100, Firas Kraiem wrote:
On Sunday 16 December 2007 17:13:49 Per-Olov SjC6holm wrote:
I have today updated (well tried) two OpenBSD -STABLE systems. One
4.0 and one 4.1.
First the kernel update and a reboot... No problem
Then a make obj make
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, and by the way, I'm not a real man.
Actually I'm not a man at all.
Not all people who are in software are men.
This an interesting point..
I came up with a solution and also wrote it down here:
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 03:36:21AM +, Gilbert Fernandes wrote:
Where I work right now, we have bsd and debian on servers.
All user computers run debian or mandrake right now (and
we're going to move those to debian). We dont let them choose.
It is mandatory. We use bsd and some debian on
On Dec 16, 2007 1:26 PM, L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, and by the way, I'm not a real man.
I came up with a solution and also wrote it down here:
http://z505.com/cgi-bin/qkcont/qkcont.cgi?p=The-He-She-Woman-Man-Problem-Solved
Yee will find it interesting if yee
L writes:
Yee will find it interesting if yee is a uman.
Har, har.
Just use they.
It used to be considered poor English to use they when
speaking of a single person, but the language has evolved.
I did not find the thread title objectionable; in fact I found
it humorous that anyone thought
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 08:01:53AM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote:
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 12:11:16AM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
...
All of that is called free speech. The right of OpenBSD to be
mean, The right to spray views you do not like or people you think are
idiots with
On Dec 16, 2007 2:02 PM, Deanna Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
L writes:
Yee will find it interesting if yee is a uman.
Har, har.
Just use they.
It used to be considered poor English to use they when
speaking of a single person, but the language has evolved.
Actually, it just came
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 03:36:21AM +, Gilbert Fernandes wrote:
Where I work right now, we have bsd and debian on servers.
All user computers run debian or mandrake right now (and
we're going to move those to debian). We dont let them choose.
It
bofh wrote:
Heh. I think we're having far too much fun in the other threads. I
have a serious question.
thank goodness. :)
I'm a mangler in a largish company. We have
developers, and contractors. No coding standards and all that, so,
things are... messy.
I'm not in charge of
Well, no, you may. The problem is when two people sling poop on each other,
sooner or later it ends, and then all you've got is two guys standing
there looking
sheepish, all covered with poop.
I have carefully avoided personal attacks in this discussion. I have
not attacked
Although I'm sure it's convenient for most of the world to think that
free software and open source originated solely in the Linux and GNU
projects...
They won't get that idea from me. I tell people regularly in my
speeches that I found a free software operating system in use at MIT
No No NO. You miss the point. GNU is fighting for their view
of freedom. Not *real* freedom.
The GNU Project campaigns to give software users these four essential
freedoms:
Freedom 0: the freedom to run the program as you wish.
Freedom 1: the freedom to study the source code and change
Marco Peereboom wrote:
You can use OpenBSD to build a baby mulcher or a nookyoular weapon and
you have the choice to retain the source code.
You can use the GPL to build a puppy blood drainer or a dirty bomb
provided you deliver the source code with it.
Agreed, but would you except either
Darrin Chandler wrote:
I judge people less by how much they agree with my own views than by how
they adhere to their own. If I don't agree with someone but they stand
by their principles then at least I know where they stand and that they
have honor.
There is plenty of information
2007/12/15, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Nobody can tell from the information you included - send the dmesg...
# cat dmesg | grep acx
acx0 at pci2 dev 9 function 0 TI ACX111 rev 0x00: irq 11
acx0: ACX111, radio Radia (0x16), EEPROM ver 5, address 00:0f:3d:58:67:a1
acx0: watchdog timeout
The reasons I've are:
Need to support commercial packages
Linux is more mainstream
Debian has a maintenance program in place (ie, security patches are
back ported to supported platforms)
Longetivity of a particular level of release
And... Hell of a lot of opensource programmers think
The chinese have this phrase the flames cover the eyes.
I think uninterested 3rd parties who're shown a copy of what was
originally said, and a copy of this thread would probably not conclude
that rms is trying to disparage OpenBSD. Seriously.
Remember, his I cannot recommend $X includes most
On 12/14/07, bofh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Heh. I think we're having far too much fun in the other threads. I
have a serious question. I'm a mangler in a largish company. We have
developers, and contractors. No coding standards and all that, so,
things are... messy.
I'm not in charge of
On Sunday 16 December 2007 19.02.46 Hannah Schroeter wrote:
Hi!
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 05:45:05PM +0100, Firas Kraiem wrote:
On Sunday 16 December 2007 17:13:49 Per-Olov SjC6holm wrote:
I have today updated (well tried) two OpenBSD -STABLE systems. One
4.0 and one 4.1.
First the
On Dec 16, 2007, at 11:58 AM, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Marco Peereboom wrote:
You can use OpenBSD to build a baby mulcher or a nookyoular weapon
and
you have the choice to retain the source code.
You can use the GPL to build a puppy blood drainer or a dirty bomb
provided you deliver the
On Dec 16, 2007 8:35 PM, Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Although I'm sure it's convenient for most of the world to think that
free software and open source originated solely in the Linux and GNU
projects...
They won't get that idea from me. I tell people regularly in
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 01:10:54PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
Where I work right now, we have bsd and debian on servers.
All user computers run debian or mandrake right now (and
we're going to move those to debian). We dont let them choose.
It is mandatory. We use bsd and some debian
misc@ doesn't allow attachments, pasting it in the message body will be fine.
On 2007/12/16 22:32, Dmitrij Czarkoff wrote:
2007/12/15, Stuart Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Nobody can tell from the information you included - send the dmesg...
# cat dmesg | grep acx
acx0 at pci2 dev 9
OpenBSD 4.2 (RAMDISK_CD) #468: Tue Aug 28 11:02:17 MDT 2007
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/RAMDISK_CD
cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 3 GHz
cpu0:
Rico Secada wrote:
Dear Richard unless you actually address the above mentioned issues, in
context of the e-mail from Theo, you will look hypocritical! You say
what you don't do yourself.
Earlier -
http://www.nabble.com/Real-men-don%27t-attack-straw-men-tp14256924r0p14344642.html
- Richard
Hi!
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 11:26:17AM -0700, L wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh, and by the way, I'm not a real man.
Actually I'm not a man at all.
Not all people who are in software are men.
This an interesting point..
I came up with a solution and also wrote it down here:
Richard Stallman wrote:
The GNU Project campaigns to give software users these two essential
freedoms and two essential requirements:
Freedom 0: the freedom to run the program as you wish.
Freedom 1: the freedom to study the source code and change it
so it does what you wish.
Requirement 2:
Ray Percival wrote:
On Dec 16, 2007, at 11:58 AM, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Marco Peereboom wrote:
You can use OpenBSD to build a baby mulcher or a nookyoular weapon and
you have the choice to retain the source code.
You can use the GPL to build a puppy blood drainer or a dirty bomb
Hi!
On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 02:33:25AM +1100, mufurcz wrote:
New DNS server setup, suppose to be authoritative for the
`transylvania.org.au` zone
but reverse lookup is not working - as it suppose to work.
[...]
-
lookup local server(s):
On Dec 16, 2007, at 2:24 PM, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Ray Percival wrote:
On Dec 16, 2007, at 11:58 AM, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Marco Peereboom wrote:
You can use OpenBSD to build a baby mulcher or a nookyoular
weapon and
you have the choice to retain the source code.
You can use the
does this also affects folks who are using it on openbsd?
http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c01299773
thx.
BG
~~Kalyan-mastu~~
On 12/16/07, David H. Lynch Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is also inconsistent with providing URL's to software that is not
free to all.
not at all. openbsd is free. other software, that is not free, does
not make openbsd less free.
badeguruji wrote:
does this also affects folks who are using it on openbsd?
http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c01299773
That page says it's CVE-2007-4995:
http://www.cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-4995
Based on the dates OpenBSD fixed it
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 02:58:10PM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Marco Peereboom wrote:
You can use OpenBSD to build a baby mulcher or a nookyoular weapon and
you have the choice to retain the source code.
You can use the GPL to build a puppy blood drainer or a dirty bomb
provided
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 05:24:48PM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
That's fine, it is a statement of values and principals, that is exactly
what I was looking for - something that is conspicuously absent from the
OpenBSD web site.
If it is what OpenBSD beleives - have the balls to say so,
I feel personally attacked by your uneducated comments. I feel
personally insulted by your by your condescending tone. My intelligence
has been insulted repeatedly by your linguistic tricks. I am outraged
on how you alter meaning of words to fit your agenda. You are not my
mom and you don't
So what it still is a stupid and hypocritical explanation. RMS is full
of it.
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 02:14:36PM -0800, davelab6 wrote:
Rico Secada wrote:
Dear Richard unless you actually address the above mentioned issues, in
context of the e-mail from Theo, you will look hypocritical!
Deanna Phillips wrote:
Yee will find it interesting if yee is a uman.
Har, har.
Just use they.
The problem with they is..
They are coming over.
: Oh, are they?
No. It's just one person!
: But you said they?
Yes.. I said they are coming over.
: You mean they is coming over?
No, they
Hannah Schroeter wrote:
Yee will find it interesting if yee is a uman.
No need to invent yet another kind of wheel, in my eyes.
S/he will find it interesting if s/he is a wo/man.
This contains the obnoxious GNU/Linux slash.
Yee and uman is superior.
(GNU/Linux should really be called:
Earlier -
http://www.nabble.com/Real-men-don%27t-attack-straw-men-tp14256924r0p14344642.html
- Richard appears to have explained how when free software programs support
already-known non-free operating systems, that will not lead to people not
already using those OS to start using them - but by
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 05:24:48PM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Ray Percival wrote:
[quoting and excerpt from Theo's log message in (e.g.):
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/etc/Attic/ipf.rules]
...
But software which OpenBSD uses and redistributes must be free to all
Earlier -
http://www.nabble.com/Real-men-don%27t-attack-straw-men-tp14256924r0p14344642.html
- Richard appears to have explained how when free software programs
support
already-known non-free operating systems, that will not lead to
people not
already using those OS to start using them - but
Marco Peereboom wrote:
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 05:24:48PM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
That's fine, it is a statement of values and principals, that is exactly
what I was looking for - something that is conspicuously absent from the
OpenBSD web site.
If it is what OpenBSD beleives -
William Boshuck wrote:
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 05:24:48PM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Ray Percival wrote:
[quoting and excerpt from Theo's log message in (e.g.):
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/etc/Attic/ipf.rules]
...
But software which OpenBSD uses
On Dec 16, 2007, at 6:20 PM, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Marco Peereboom wrote:
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 05:24:48PM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
That's fine, it is a statement of values and principals, that is
exactly
what I was looking for - something that is conspicuously absent
from
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:27:21 -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Regardless, apply it to ports and remove non-free URL's.
Yeah, right.
Right when you get commit privs.
Don't ^W hold your breath.
Rod/
/earth: write failed, file system is full
cp: /earth/creatures: No space left on device
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:20:19 -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
So if I write a non-free insecure kernel and install it via ports that
is acceptable.
You are trying to argue both pragmatism and principle concurrently,
You are obviously free to try but it makes things very easy for me.
snip loads
On Sunday 16 December 2007 23:24:48 David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Ray Percival wrote:
On Dec 16, 2007, at 11:58 AM, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Marco Peereboom wrote:
You can use OpenBSD to build a baby mulcher or a nookyoular
weapon and you have the choice to retain the source code.
You
Ray Percival wrote:
But software which OpenBSD uses and redistributes must be free to all
(be they people or companies), for any purpose they wish to use it,
including modification, use, peeing on, or even integration into baby
mulching machines or atomic bombs to be dropped on Australia.
On Dec 16, 2007, at 6:27 PM, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
William Boshuck wrote:
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 05:24:48PM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Ray Percival wrote:
[quoting and excerpt from Theo's log message in (e.g.):
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/etc/Attic/ipf.rules]
After I update to -current and run X sans config as root, I lose
video signal and only a reboot brings it back. A surfeit of information
follows.
OpenBSD 4.2-current (GENERIC.MP) #1: Sun Dec 16 11:40:55 PST 2007
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem =
I am giving first aid after the war but still it will help.
I can give a lot of relief to those of you who had nervous breakdowns
and blood pressure problems due to spam mails getting in the way of
useful technical stuff.
It is not hard at all.
First thing is install mutt from packages.
#
On Monday 17 December 2007 03:44:39 Rod Whitworth wrote:
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:20:19 -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
So if I write a non-free insecure kernel and install it via ports
that is acceptable.
You are trying to argue both pragmatism and principle concurrently,
You are obviously
On Dec 16, 2007, at 5:52 PM, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Ray Percival wrote:
You believe in absolute freedom - freedom to do whatever you damn well
please.
I really fail to see the problem with that but whatever.
Yet you are seeking to deny the same freedom to Richard and everyone
else that
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 09:20:19PM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
So if I write a non-free insecure kernel and install it via ports that
is acceptable.
Sure, why not? If you could get the linux kernel (e.g. with the nVidia
blob) to compile on OpenBSD and run an OpenBSD userland, why not?
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 09:13:49PM +0100, knitti wrote:
On 12/14/07, bofh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Heh. I think we're having far too much fun in the other threads. I
have a serious question. I'm a mangler in a largish company. We have
developers, and contractors. No coding standards
David:
Do you even use OpenBSD ? I've been using it for many many years. What
stake do you have in this discussion ?
--- Marina Brown
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Marco Peereboom wrote:
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 05:24:48PM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
That's fine, it
On 12/17/07, David H. Lynch Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yet you are seeking to deny the same freedom to Richard and everyone
else that disagrees.
No-one is trying to deny RMS the freedom to say and think whatever the
hell he wants, no matter how wacky.
---
Lars Hansson
thank you!
On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 08:19:32AM +0530, Girish Venkatachalam wrote:
I am giving first aid after the war but still it will help.
I can give a lot of relief to those of you who had nervous breakdowns
and blood pressure problems due to spam mails getting in the way of
useful
On Dec 15, 2007 10:56 PM, David H. Lynch Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bengt Frost wrote:
On Sat, Dec 15, 2007 at 12:31:25PM -0700, Darrb
Finally as long as i do not hurt 'someone' (to mutch) then it must
be up to me to choose what i want to do, f.ex. install packages through
portssystem.
On Dec 16, 2007 7:49 PM, Girish Venkatachalam
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am giving first aid after the war but still it will help.
$ grep sort ~/.muttrc
set sort=threads
Now just watch the fun.
Whenever you see a thread with the favorite subject line or as soon as
you read the first mail
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 09:20:19PM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
Marco Peereboom wrote:
On Sun, Dec 16, 2007 at 05:24:48PM -0500, David H. Lynch Jr. wrote:
That's fine, it is a statement of values and principals, that is exactly
what I was looking for - something that is
You must be kiddingBRscript is horrible. I can't print more then
15 pages of the SAME postscript before it crashes Now that HP is
joining this crowd, the world is a darker place.
Greg Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 11, 2007 9:06 AM, Matthew Szudzik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:09:01 -0800, Chris Cappuccio wrote:
You must be kiddingBRscript is horrible. I can't print more then
15 pages of the SAME postscript before it crashes Now that HP is
joining this crowd, the world is a darker place.
Have a look at Kyocera. Every model I have tried
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