Re: the whole greylisting, spam filtering thing

2017-10-04 Thread Marc Peters
On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 07:16:43AM +, rosjat wrote: > Hi there again, > > so I will try to ask the question about implementing rspam on a dedicated > machine oder at the mailsystem again because I don't know if it was lost in > the converstion :). How is you setup now? Do you do any analysis

Re: the whole greylisting, spam filtering thing

2017-10-03 Thread Boudewijn Dijkstra
Op Sun, 01 Oct 2017 22:11:27 +0200 schreef Rupert Gallagher : Spammers keep trying, from the same IPs, for days here, so graylisting is useless for us. All of them? On my end about 90% only try once. -- Gemaakt met Opera's e-mailprogramma: http://www.opera.com/mail/

Re: the whole greylisting, spam filtering thing

2017-10-02 Thread rosjat
Hi there again, so I will try to ask the question about implementing rspam on a dedicated machine oder at the mailsystem again because I don't know if it was lost in the converstion :). Is there some effort in NOT run rspamd on the same machine as the mailsystem? I was just wondering

Re: the whole greylisting, spam filtering thing

2017-10-01 Thread Rupert Gallagher
Spammers keep trying, from the same IPs, for days here, so graylisting is useless for us. On SA and other things that require training, this is a nice story for you. A client received an average of 60 spam items per day on his own inbox alone. He trusted Kasperski, was confident on the

[rspamd and smtpd] (was: the whole greylisting, spam filtering thing)

2017-10-01 Thread Thuban
By the way, does anyone has some instructions to use rspamd with the default smtpd ? Regards. -- thuban

Re: the whole greylisting, spam filtering thing

2017-09-30 Thread Craig Skinner
Hi Markus/all, On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 15:06:29 +0200 Markus Rosjat wrote: > ... greylisting ... like outlook.com and mails ending up delayed > for ever The 'ungrey-robins' tool automatically solves this problem for round-robin sending servers (Google, Outlook, Amazon, Yahoo, BT, etc.) Start

Re: the whole greylisting, spam filtering thing

2017-09-30 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
On 09/30/17 04:39, Stuart Henderson wrote: >> It won't surprise anyone here that I disagree with the assertion that >> greylisting is in any way outdated. Come back with that assertion when >> the SMTP RFC is amended to drop the retry requirement. > > These senders do retry, but not always from

Re: the whole greylisting, spam filtering thing

2017-09-30 Thread Pierre-Philipp Braun
I start greylisting on the firewall and thats ok but should I implement a dedicated system for rspamd and relay the "ok-Mails" from there to the mailsystem or simply run rspamd on the mailsystem und plug it front of the mailserver like postfix? aha so if you are using Postfix then there are

Re: the whole greylisting, spam filtering thing

2017-09-30 Thread Markus Rosjat
Hi, thank you all for the helpful input on that subject. I have one last thing to ask about it. What would be a good approach to implementing rspamd? I start greylisting on the firewall and thats ok but should I implement a dedicated system for rspamd and relay the "ok-Mails" from there to

Re: the whole greylisting, spam filtering thing

2017-09-29 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2017-09-29, Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: > On 09/29/17 15:06, Markus Rosjat wrote: > >> my boss is getting on my nerves that greylisting is basically out of >> date because of things like outlook.com and mails ending up delayed for >> ever. So the next logical step would be to

Re: the whole greylisting, spam filtering thing

2017-09-29 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2017-09-29, Larry Hynes wrote: > Markus Rosjat wrote: >> my boss is getting on my nerves > > It may be mutual. > >> that greylisting is basically out of date because of things like >> outlook.com and mails ending up delayed for ever. So the next logical

Re: the whole greylisting, spam filtering thing

2017-09-29 Thread Peter N. M. Hansteen
On 09/29/17 15:06, Markus Rosjat wrote: > my boss is getting on my nerves that greylisting is basically out of > date because of things like outlook.com and mails ending up delayed for > ever. So the next logical step would be to deploy a tool like rspamd or > spamassasin to examin mail content.

Re: the whole greylisting, spam filtering thing

2017-09-29 Thread Markus Rosjat
Hi Leo, Am 29.09.2017 um 16:57 schrieb Leo Unglaub: Hey, On 09/29/17 15:06, Markus Rosjat wrote: my boss is getting on my nerves that greylisting is basically out of date because of things like outlook.com and mails ending up delayed for ever. So the next logical step would be to deploy a

Re: the whole greylisting, spam filtering thing

2017-09-29 Thread Leo Unglaub
Hey, On 09/29/17 15:06, Markus Rosjat wrote: my boss is getting on my nerves that greylisting is basically out of date because of things like outlook.com and mails ending up delayed for ever. So the next logical step would be to deploy a tool like rspamd or spamassasin to examin mail content.

Re: the whole greylisting, spam filtering thing

2017-09-29 Thread Markus Rosjat
Hi, Am 29.09.2017 um 15:39 schrieb Larry Hynes: Markus Rosjat wrote: my boss is getting on my nerves It may be mutual. of course but well :) that greylisting is basically out of date because of things like outlook.com and mails ending up delayed for ever. So the next

Re: the whole greylisting, spam filtering thing

2017-09-29 Thread tech-lists
On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 03:06:29PM +0200, Markus Rosjat wrote: So my question is, is there some source that you could use to train these kind of tools (like a database that you could connect to for training conntent ) or is every one here, that uses these tools, lucky enough to have a shit

Re: the whole greylisting, spam filtering thing

2017-09-29 Thread Larry Hynes
Markus Rosjat wrote: > my boss is getting on my nerves It may be mutual. > that greylisting is basically out of date because of things like > outlook.com and mails ending up delayed for ever. So the next logical > step would be to deploy a tool like rspamd or spamassasin to

the whole greylisting, spam filtering thing

2017-09-29 Thread Markus Rosjat
Hi there, my boss is getting on my nerves that greylisting is basically out of date because of things like outlook.com and mails ending up delayed for ever. So the next logical step would be to deploy a tool like rspamd or spamassasin to examin mail content. These tools need to be trained and