On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Ed Park wrote:
Anyways, take23 is very fast for now.
Don't expect that to last too long - its behind a 64Kb leased line. But
its fast because it delivers everything gzipped - so there's an argument
for gzipped content.
--
Matt/
/||** Director and CTO **
//||
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 11:47:58AM +1100, Jie Gao wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Stas Bekman wrote:
I think that this item from the guide is not relevant anymore. Can I
kill it?
=head3 The Morning Bug
Relational database server keeps a connection to the client open for a
limited
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Drew Taylor wrote:
This doesn't mean that modperlnew will be
taken within hours but one should be very careful when using registrars'
whois/dns check tools. If you could want it, buy it immediately. Maybe some
registrars are not that kind of bandits, but it's hard to
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Tim Bunce wrote:
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 11:47:58AM +1100, Jie Gao wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Stas Bekman wrote:
I think that this item from the guide is not relevant anymore. Can I
kill it?
=head3 The Morning Bug
Relational database server keeps
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Mark Bathie wrote:
Hi all,
I want to run a production and a development version of my mod-perl web
page on the same apache server. The production and development code
lives in separate directories and all code is the same (excluding
database name). Some of the code to
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Tim Bunce wrote:
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 11:47:58AM +1100, Jie Gao wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Stas Bekman wrote:
I think that this item from the guide is not relevant anymore. Can I
kill it?
=head3 The Morning Bug
Relational database server keeps
-Original Message-
From: Robin Berjon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 6:24 PM
To: Stas Bekman
Cc: Drew Taylor; mod_perl list
Subject: [OT] Re: Mod_perl tutorials
[snip]
This doesn't mean that modperlnew will be
taken within hours but one should
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
You can use my hackish Pod::HtmlPsPdf, which tries hard to help generate
slides. The only caveat it has now, is that the html2ps tool that it uses
generates not 100% complete PS, so when I run ps2pdf everything is cool,
but acroread has no option
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Robin Berjon wrote:
Well Doug likes the site, and I'd assume someone is going to add a link
fairly shortly to perl.apache.org.
There already is, I think Stas added it. It's under "News and Resources for
the mod_perl
At 23:03 13/12/2000 -0500, Drew Taylor wrote:
That's all too true. For certain Network Solutions have a service that
warns some people that have paid (a lot) when someone checks an address
that doesn't exist yet. They offered it to one of the companies I worked
for once so I know for sure.
On 13 Dec 2000, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
"Gunther" == Gunther Birznieks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Gunther I would be against PPT if StarOffice couldn't read and write those
Gunther files. But since there is a Linux alternative, I would prefer a slide
Gunther format stored in the format
At 13:21 14/12/2000 +0800, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
At 01:55 AM 12/14/2000 +0100, Stas Bekman wrote:
You can use my hackish Pod::HtmlPsPdf, which tries hard to help generate
slides. The only caveat it has now, is that the html2ps tool that it uses
generates not 100% complete PS, so when I run
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Robin Berjon wrote:
At 13:21 14/12/2000 +0800, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
At 01:55 AM 12/14/2000 +0100, Stas Bekman wrote:
You can use my hackish Pod::HtmlPsPdf, which tries hard to help generate
slides. The only caveat it has now, is that the html2ps tool that it uses
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Stas Bekman wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
You can use my hackish Pod::HtmlPsPdf, which tries hard to help generate
slides. The only caveat it has now, is that the html2ps tool that it uses
generates not 100% complete PS, so when I run ps2pdf
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Stas Bekman wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Robin Berjon wrote:
Well Doug likes the site, and I'd assume someone is going to add a link
fairly shortly to perl.apache.org.
There already is, I think Stas added it. It's
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Stas Bekman wrote:
Editing xml with no good xml editor is a nightmare... that's why pod is
much friendly even if it's very limited. I want to be able to edit files
from any console on any machine. Can I run StarOffice from remote
machine? Of course, not. It hardly runs
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
creating a set of tutorials for mongers and user groups? What's important
is the information, not how fancy the background picture is.
Thats where I think you're wrong. People care a *lot* about how things
look. Case in point with AxKit - I had
Stas Bekman wrote:
Our book's site is modperlbook.org... how original :)
Stas, do you have a premilinary table of contents
already and could you please post it there?
Not yet, we are still contemplating on some chapters/ideas. But the guide
is the core of the book, so you get the idea.
hi ken...
something has been bugging me in Apache::Compress for a while now - it
_always_ tries to compress output.
my thought here is that all filters in the pipeline should be able to return
DECLINED and have apache's defaults take over. unfortunately, Compress
basically only uses the
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Stas Bekman wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Robin Berjon wrote:
Well Doug likes the site, and I'd assume someone is going to add a link
fairly shortly to perl.apache.org.
Hi all,
With all of the advocacy talk on the ML right now I've been
mulling around the idea of having a "peer review" forum where one could post
code that you are currently working on w/an explanation of what you are
trying to accomplish and have the community review/give suggestions
warnings,
I believe there are structural differs for XML (I remember there was a perl
script sgmldiff back 6 years ago!), which can be plugged into cvs
environment for this type of files. If you want, I can dig further into it.
Vassilii
-Original Message-
From: Matt Sergeant [mailto:[EMAIL
Hi All, hi Gerald,
I wrote some code for a forum, that displays user entered text,
turning all URLs found into real links. Here it is:
[- @t = split(/\x0d\x0a/, $message); $r = '';
{
local $/ = "\x0d\x0a"; # for chomp below
for($i=0;$i lt; scalar @t;$i++) {
$out = ''; $t =
"Stas" == Stas Bekman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It will always be take23, that I can assure you of. I'm a geek, and its a
geeky name, and I'm very happy with it. The other domain names pointing at
it or redirecting to it would be most welcome, but I'm not yet considering
another rename.
Being seduced by the proud anouncements Matt made here, and seeing the axkit
and take23 sites,
I decided to play with AxKit myself.
I have installed AxKit according to the AxKit(3) manpage, and (I think)
configured apache to load it.
It uses sablotron 0.44 and the latest expat from sourceforge -
Hi,
I've learned to recognize your postings by
the triple ! in the subject line.
Edmar Edilton da Silva wrote:
Please, can anyone tell me what driver I can use to access the MS SQL Server
database? I am using the freetds_dbd driver, but It doesn't work properly when under
heavy
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Andrew Ho wrote:
I'm thinking somebody should probably take it upon themselves to spearhead
this effort, and perhaps set up another list for potential volunteers to
coordinate. Lots of open source projects are short on useful documentation
Perl Mongers can host, mirror,
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2000, Ed Park wrote:
Anyways, take23 is very fast for now.
Don't expect that to last too long - its behind a 64Kb leased line. But
its fast because it delivers everything gzipped - so there's an argument
for gzipped content.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 10:09 AM
To: Stas Bekman
Cc: Matt Sergeant; mod_perl list
Subject: Re: Mod_perl tutorials
But I'm cool with the name as long as there's a prominent link of "why
'take23'?"
On our intranet server I have a page that allows the user to
start a long running process. In order not to hang a httpd
child I fork off the process and detach it from the calling
process. This works fine most of the time.
However in the unusual situation where apache needs to be
restarted
You're describing what open source is about. People do this all the time
here on this mailing list and others. If you have some mod_perl code you
are trying to produce, put it up and write an email asking for comments.
You may not get many people reading (most people are quite busy at any
I would agree with Matt.
It's a matter of style... I think if you made a 1-1 POD and XML tagset, it
wouldn't be too many tags.
The thing that makes POD easier to diff is that the commands appear on
single lines... but if you do something like
code
Some code
/code
I don't think that it would
At 02:27 PM 12/14/00 +0100, Stas Bekman wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Matt Sergeant wrote:
creating a set of tutorials for mongers and user groups? What's important
is the information, not how fancy the background picture is.
Thats where I think you're wrong. People care a *lot* about
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Gunther Birznieks wrote:
Well, the nicer the slides the more they can be used outside of PM groups.
The ideal would be something that (A) Can be made to look nice and (B) Is
relatively brandable in case a conference has a particular look-and-feel
they prefer authors
I believe that the Bizzar copy of array problem is related to a bug in
Perl 5.6 that was patched a while ago.
Make sure you are running the latest version of perl5.6
Also there is an AxKit users mailing list that you can post these
questions to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Owen
[Snip]
[AxKit] :
Well, it's kind of recent. I downloaded built it just a couple of weeks
ago,
10656 -rw-r--r-- 1 root other5443601 Nov 30 15:40
/usr/local/perl/CPAN/sources/authors/id/G/GS/GSAR/perl-5.6.0.tar.gz
and also cpan doesn't give me any reinstall recommendations for it, which I
take as a
Just don't post your code to the list itself. It's rude to
bloat the mails on the list. Provide a hyperlink to your annotated code.
True, but what happens after you get your answer? You take the code down and
move on. It would be nice to have a place to post the code where it can be
organized
While we are on the topic, check out this wise write up by mjd.
http://www.perl.com/pub/2000/12/advocacy.html
It starts with:
"I think programming language advocacy is a big problem, not just for the
Perl community, but for the larger programming community"
ends with:
"I have a book on my
Gunther Birznieks writes:
However, I am willing to concede that as a first cut, fancy slides are
probably not worth it because the slides will change too often. Once v1 is
released, then someone can transcribe the slides to PPT (or maybe a tool
will exist by then) as a "stable release" if
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Kees Vonk 7249 24549 wrote:
On our intranet server I have a page that allows the user to
start a long running process. In order not to hang a httpd
child I fork off the process and detach it from the calling
process. This works fine most of the time.
However in the
quick, obvious trick:
This is a trivial modification of Doug's original Apache::TimeIt script that
allows you to very precisely show the Apache execute time of the page.
This is particularly useful if you want to know which pages of your site you
could optimize.
Here's a question, though: does
Hi,
I'm for the minimalist slides approach ... I often think there's
an inverse relationship between powerpoint buzz and the speaker's
presentation skills --- a good speaker knows that *they* engage the
audience not their slides.
Some of the best technical presentations I've seen
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Owen Stenseth wrote:
I believe that the Bizzar copy of array problem is related to a bug in
Perl 5.6 that was patched a while ago.
Make sure you are running the latest version of perl5.6
The latest version of 5.6 _is_ 5.6.0. The bizarre copy thing is fixed in
CVS and
Both would be great. gnome.org has a large number of tutorials on all
aspects of gtk and gnome programming and so a newbie could get started
just by the stuff at the site. While mod_perl has some great resources
like the Eagle book and the guide, there is something to be said for
having on line
"Homsher, Dave V." wrote:
Just don't post your code to the list itself. It's rude to
bloat the mails on the list. Provide a hyperlink to your annotated code.
True, but what happens after you get your answer? You take the code down and
move on. It would be nice to have a place to post the
Homsher, Dave V. writes:
With all of the advocacy talk on the ML right now I've been
mulling around the idea of having a "peer review" forum where one could post
code that you are currently working on w/an explanation of what you are
trying to accomplish and have the community review/give
Just don't post your code to the list itself. It's rude to
bloat the mails on the list. Provide a hyperlink to your annotated code.
True, but what happens after you get your answer? You take the code down and
move on. It would be nice to have a place to post the code where it can be
* Greg Cope ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [001213 11:19]:
Appologies if I am butting in - but what you apppear to say here is that
you are using JAVA because its sex / marketdriods know of it, yet perl
would be the quicker (and hence cheaper solution ?). Surley for this
reason you should use perl and
"MB" == Mark Bathie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
MB I want to run a production and a development version of my mod-perl web
MB page on the same apache server. The production and development code
Run two instances of apache, running on different port numbers. Your
development server could run on
* Gunther Birznieks ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [001213 19:50]:
Well, for me we do Java because I know that there are a couple drivers.
1) I do know of situations were Java is a better/easier tool.
2) For us its not about what is sexy, but what will sell. By the time we
talk to a company, the
Sorry, I haven't looked at the CVS src.
2000-12-14 13:00:43 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* The line below fails in my Apache-3.14 Win32 configuration,
so I added ".dll". The cause is probably a dot in my pathname,
confusing Win32 LoadLibrary().
--- mod_perl-1.24/INSTALL.win32~Thu Jan
"KV72" == Kees Vonk 7249 24549 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
KV72 Has anyone got an idea how to get around this? Can I get to
KV72 the inherited socket connection and close it when I have
KV72 detached from the calling process?
After you fork, why not close all open file descriptors you are not
Dave Rolsky wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Owen Stenseth wrote:
I believe that the Bizzar copy of array problem is related to a bug in
Perl 5.6 that was patched a while ago.
Make sure you are running the latest version of perl5.6
The latest version of 5.6 _is_ 5.6.0. The bizarre
I like the idea. Is there a threaded discussion package for mod_perl?
Good idea...
I'm working on one, kinda sorta. Right now, it's an Apache::Registry
hack based on crufty old Perl 4 code I wrote back around 5 years ago.
In other words, I won't even let other people look at it. (If anyone
"Stas" == Stas Bekman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Stas Personally I've found that it's much easier to find a few coders that you
Stas believe that their style is good and learn from their code. In my early
Stas days I've learned a great deal of idiomatic Perl coding from Randal's
Stas columns:
What a silly goose I am...
Right after that email I wrote a minute ago, I remembered some code
along these lines that I am aware of... the v1 Open Source release of
Opendesk.com, to be gotten from:
ftp://ftp.smartworker.org/
As you can see, it's been a bit of time since this has been
I was in the process of updating the Apache::DBI section of the guide with
the notes from the latest version of this package, and there is a new
section about Transactions. Since I use mysql, it doesn't have
transactions so I cannot it's not absolutely clear to me. For example why
the script
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Chris Winters wrote:
I think a *really* good Perl person can be faster, but
that's just a gut instinct. Most of us mortals don't
qualify.
i used to think that, until i watched a set of really good
*engineers* move quickly inside and between c++, java and
perl. i no
Stas Bekman writes:
I was in the process of updating the Apache::DBI section of the guide with
the notes from the latest version of this package, and there is a new
section about Transactions. Since I use mysql, it doesn't have
transactions so I cannot it's not absolutely clear to me.
In case your script makes some db changes "by accident"--if you don't do
an explicit rollback or commit at the end, the uncommitted changes will
hang around, and the next request may end up committing those changes
unwittingly. I rollback at both the beginning and the end of all requests,
just to
"Stas" == Stas Bekman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Stas In general it is good practice to perform an explicit commit
Stas or rollback at the end of every script. In order to avoid
Stas inconsistencies in the database in case CAutoCommit is
Stas IOff and the script finishes without
I have followed the advice given by
http://axkit.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3:mss:798:200012:gigblllnbhflgdoplaci
with similar symptoms, and just reinstalled 5.6.0 from ActiveState 620
source.
Then I reinstalled XML::Parser and AxKit forcibly.
Unfortunately, the error still persists. :-(((
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Tom Brown wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Stas Bekman wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Tim Bunce wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Stas Bekman wrote:
and the script was dying on that error. The infamous Cping() method
Why is/was ping() infamous?
Something
On Thursday, December 14, 2000, Stas Bekman wrote the
following about "Apache::DBI and transactions"
SB In general it is good practice to perform an explicit commit or
SB rollback at the end of every script.
True, but this is truly a style issue. IMHO, relying on something to commit for
you
http://bugs.perl.org/perlbug.cgi?req=querybody=Bizarre+copy
seems to yield only one bug relevant to my particular error message case -
http://bugs.perl.org/perlbug.cgi?req=bidbid=20001207.005range=6012format=
H
which is still open. No patch/patchid seen there.
Did you mean this bug, or another?
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Khachaturov, Vassilii wrote:
http://bugs.perl.org/perlbug.cgi?req=querybody=Bizarre+copy
seems to yield only one bug relevant to my particular error message case -
http://bugs.perl.org/perlbug.cgi?req=bidbid=20001207.005range=6012format=
H
which is still open. No
I am sad to inform you that this patch is obsolete. The CLEAR_ARGARRAY
has evolved a lot since this message. It is now in 5.6.0
#define CLEAR_ARGARRAY(ary) \
STMT_START { \
AvMAX(ary) += AvARRAY(ary) - AvALLOC(ary); \
SvPVX(ary) = (char*)AvALLOC(ary);\
AvFILLp(ary) = -1;
A couple of days ago I asked the question below, but nobody seemed to be
able to answer it.
Well, in case somebody else runs into this problem I can tell that my
solution to the problem was to use perl5.005 and not install perl5.6.0 until
after i completed the installation of mod_perl / Apache
Yes, indeed, it's mentioned on
http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2000-06/msg00200.html
in GSAR's own message!
P5P: why is the bug mentioned in the Orig Msg below still open then?
Thanks a lot to all that helped or tried to! Sorry for missing this on the
AxKit FAQ earlier.
Stas Bekman wrote:
Apologies Tim, somehow I always thought that 'infamous' is better than
just 'famous'... I meant the 'famous'... sorry about that. I've corrected
it in the guide.
Thanks, Tom for clearing this out for me ;)
Yeah, this is one of the more confusing words in English... Check
Per Moeller wrote:
A couple of days ago I asked the question below, but nobody seemed to be
able to answer it.
Well, in case somebody else runs into this problem I can tell that my
solution to the problem was to use perl5.005 and not install perl5.6.0
until
after i completed the
Dave Rolsky wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Khachaturov, Vassilii wrote:
http://bugs.perl.org/perlbug.cgi?req=querybody=Bizarre+copy
seems to yield only one bug relevant to my particular error message
case -
http://bugs.perl.org/perlbug.cgi?req=bidbid=20001207.005range=6012format=
H
which
Unfortunately, this is the same obsolete patch I mentioned
http://forum.swarthmore.edu/epigone/modperl/spilwhudimp/6B1DF6EEBA51D31182F2
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
and it is irrelevant for the perl5.6.0 currently on CPAN
:-(
-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:
OK, you probably don't want it to be another mailing list then. But a web
bbs that allows you to post replies to code.
So you still post your issue here and entice people to go to the URL with
your code (On the root post of a WebBBS). And then allow people who happen
to have the time when you
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Chris Nokleberg wrote:
In case your script makes some db changes "by accident"--if you don't do
an explicit rollback or commit at the end, the uncommitted changes will
hang around, and the next request may end up committing those changes
unwittingly. I rollback at both
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Per Moeller wrote:
A couple of days ago I asked the question below, but nobody seemed to be
able to answer it.
Well, in case somebody else runs into this problem I can tell that my
solution to the problem was to use perl5.005 and not install perl5.6.0 until
after i
At 10:06 AM 12/14/00 -0700, Nathan Torkington wrote:
Gunther Birznieks writes:
However, I am willing to concede that as a first cut, fancy slides are
probably not worth it because the slides will change too often. Once v1 is
released, then someone can transcribe the slides to PPT (or maybe
"Gunther" == Gunther Birznieks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Gunther OK. One thing I was considering is that instead of being a monolithic
Gunther mod_perl class that it should be broken into modules with recommended
Gunther ways of piecing together the modules based on the amount of time
Gunther
I think it would be cool to have an email Apache module. I was thinking
that if the URL was something like:
http://www.site.com/user/mail
it would activate the module.
The module would allow the users to read and send email. Kind of like how
I did Apache::FileMan (an Apache web site file
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 08:00:47PM -0800, Darren Duncan wrote:
Now some questions that I hope some of you can help me with. Hopefully
each has short answers.
The mod_perl Guide at http://perl.apache.org/guide/ has a lot of good
information for programming under mod_perl. Most of the answers
Darren Duncan wrote:
...
Now some questions that I hope some of you can help me with. Hopefully
each has short answers.
...
Hi Darren,
I think that all of your questions are answered in the mod_perl guide, which
is at:
http://perl.apache.org/guide/
I don't have time right now to post a
Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
META COMMENT...
Maybe it's time we spun off a mailing list for this discussion,
unless it's still interesting to the rest of the onlookers.
Anyone care to host it or take that on?
I would have thought that most people here are interested in how to teach
George Sanderson wrote:
I think it would be cool to have an email Apache module. I was thinking
that if the URL was something like:
http://www.site.com/user/mail
it would activate the module.
The module would allow the users to read and send email. Kind of like how
I did
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Ajit Deshpande wrote:
2. The POD for Apache::Registry says that it doesn't like __END__ and
__DATA__ tokens. So what affect do these actually have if left in? Does
In scripts? it's a syntax error, but that's a completely separate issue
from modules which get used "as
Granted that many are interested in seeing the end result, but from the
amount of volunteers to do actual work (maybe 4 or so) there's not so much.
So in that case, a mailing list for the development and enhancements of
existing training material makes sense, but we would still, of course,
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Tom Brown wrote:
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Ajit Deshpande wrote:
2. The POD for Apache::Registry says that it doesn't like __END__ and
__DATA__ tokens. So what affect do these actually have if left in? Does
In scripts? it's a syntax error, but that's a completely
Thanks to everyone who answered my questions in some form or other.
As it is, I *had* been reading whatever manuals I found, but those
were the documentation that came with the mod_perl distribution on
CPAN.
I was not aware of the existence of "http://perl.apache.org/guide/"
and if I had
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 09:34:58AM -0800, Michael Peppler wrote:
Tim Bunce writes:
Was there a problem with ping on DBD::Sybase?
Has it been resolved?
I believe that ping() was fixed in 0.90.
Thanks Michael.
Tim.
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