Hi MarshaV and All,
I can't figure why Schopenh(aurer) would grumble about his intellect? He
must have heard Parrots howling!
The timeless value of DQ/SQ metaphysics manifested after his time so how
could he feel led into error? Maybe he was just a grumbler.
Joe M(aurer)
On 6/18/12 2:23 AM,
Hi Ham and All,
I would echo that the first problem encountered in the history of human
civilization is the reality of a story about eating an apple!
How are male and female individuals judged to be on the same level in
evolution, human? It is not good for man to be alone! First one, then two,
Hi Mark,
Round and round she goes and where she stops nobody knows! (Except the one
putting on the brakes!)
Joe
On 6/15/12 2:26 PM, 118 ununocti...@gmail.com wrote:
We made up the term evolution (as well as
Quality); we have complete control over what it is, not the other way
around.
Hi Mark and All,
I have no clue to your take on the delineation of existing reality in
evolution? For myself I accept evolution as the description of an observed
hierarchal order of levels in existence characterized in MOQ, indefinable/
definable, DQ/SQ evolutionary reality.
IMHO the discussion
Hi Ant,
I love you!
Joe
On 6/13/12 4:05 AM, Ant McWatt antmcw...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
Can you you provide a typical context where these indefinable emotions
appear?
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Dynamic Quality doesn't move anywhere. I am trying to envision the
reality of evolution. Dynamic Quality exists, and IMHO accepts existence in
every level in evolution. Existence evolves.
E.G., I accept indefinable emotions as DQ. The existence of every level in
Hi DMB
Naming names and kicking ass! Wow!
Joe
On 6/10/12 9:22 AM, david buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.com wrote:
I think it's worse than odd. The overall thrust of the defense mounted by
Mark, Marsha and others is to generally undermine the very idea that one can
be right or wrong about
is beyond static (patterned) value - beyond concepts percepts - nothing
that can be called meaningful by human standards - that makes it a wondrous
participation indeed!
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dWocYObumVo
Marsha
On Jun 8, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote
Hi Michael,
I experience upset and indefinable DQ. Is there an indefinable emotional
perception?
Joe
On 6/8/12 2:16 PM, Michael R. Brown m...@fuguewriter.com wrote:
We are. : )
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From: Joseph Maurer
How do we experience indefinable DQ?
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are wise.
Marsha
On Jun 9, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi Marsha,
If you read it as sarcasm, I'm sorry I wrote it. I was not trying to be
sarcastic. I was trying to describe the moment. Probably never a good idea
since moments do not have
Hi MarshaV and All,
In the MOQ, DQ/DQ, the question begged is How do we experience indefinable
DQ? For myself I am content declaring that emotions are indefinable. We
experience them. They are known in my reality.
Surrendering to authority usually keeps me out of jail! A justification for
;
digging, digging and digging deeper into knowing yourself (a flow of ...);
paying attention, even arguing.
The sangha? Best leave that discussion for another day. :-)
Marsha
On Jun 8, 2012, at 2:22 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi MarshaV and All,
In the MOQ, DQ/DQ
Hi Ham and All,
I realize I am late getting back to you! I am sorry.
IMHO Negation is not a metaphysical principle but a logical principle NO!.
Evolution, levels in existence, is a metaphysical principle of existence.
Evolution as levels in existence describes the metaphysical realm DQ/SQ,
Hi Mark,
My understanding of puzzle pieces in a metaphysical environment is a
description of existence in evolution. DQ/SQ exist. S/O is defined as
existing.
Joe
On 6/4/12 3:33 PM, 118 ununocti...@gmail.com wrote:
The notion of puzzle pieces is, of
course, the application of SQ to
Hi Andre,
Wow! I will be 80 in September. What am I missing? Metaphysics has been
around for a few centuries. I do not yet understand the values of
indefinable DQ and definable SQ. I never tried to understood a value of S/O
metaphysics it was just what I was taught.
Logic is interesting to
:-( ?
On 6/2/12 2:27 PM, MarshaV val...@att.net wrote:
:-)
On Jun 2, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi Marsha,
The world comes to us in an endless stream of puzzle pieces that we would
like to think all fit together some how, but that in fact
Marsha,
I understood! But the questions never end!
Joe
On 6/3/12 12:44 PM, MarshaV val...@att.net wrote:
Joe,
What? I thought the quote you offered was perfect? That's why I offered the
big smile.
Marsha
On Jun 3, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net
Hi Marsha and all,
I like the phrase levels in existence to describe the meaning of
evolution. Pirsig described DQ as indefinable. In my experience emotional
experience fits that description. The apparatus for knowledge in a sentient
being includes emotion and intellect. Instinctive and
?
Marsha
On Jun 1, 2012, at 2:46 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi Marsha,
Metaphysics formats our experience of reality. Pirsig observed DQ/SQ in his
experience. He observed that DQ/SQ described the experience of reality.
Emotions are not thoughts like S/O. Emotions
that the values of art and morality and even religious mysticism are
verifiable
(LILA, Chapter 8)
Marsha
On Jun 2, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi Marsha and all,
I like the phrase levels in existence to describe the meaning of
evolution. Pirsig
val...@att.net wrote:
Hi Joe,
Hi Joe,
I consider perceptions to be experiences of the senses: seeing, tasting,
touching, smelling and hearing. Are you using the term to mean something
different?
Marsha
On May 31, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net
Hi Marsha and All,
I want to consider the difference between emotional perception and
intellectual conception.
For myself emotional perception is DQ. There is no way to confine
individualized emotional perceptions to a definition. Emotions stand alone.
The DQ perception of evolving reality as
Hi DMB and All,
In MOQ DQ is indefinable and SQ defined. Is definition necessary in the
distinction between perception and conception? Imho DQ is perceivable
without definition. DQ is a word without static patterns.
Joe
On 5/30/12 10:50 AM, david buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.com wrote:
But
Hi MarshaV and all,
MOQ DQ/SQ emphasizes the distinction between indefinable reality and
definable reality. How can I know indefinable DQ as reality?
For myself I am comfortable conceiving indefinable emotion DQ a part of my
everyday experience. There is also an historical higher emotional and
Hi Ham and All,
When I negate existence I feel empty/death! And when I conceive sensible
variety negation leaves me speechless.
I find 'essence', a word created by the combination of the infinitive and
participle of to be, esse, ens to be too contradictory for metaphysical
purposes. In essence
Hi Jan and all,
I am trying to understand a value in evolution. The value between
defineable and indefinable is negation. Evolution is not negation.
Existence is logically perceived in different formats, DQ/SQ. I do not want
to view DQ as individuality, but rather as common to sentient
Hi Ant and All,
I am thinking Physics are mathematically definable. Metaphysics are
mathematically indefinable. SQ/DQ. Does this distinction open any doors for
a valuation of evolution as levels in existence?
Joe
On 5/19/12 6:40 AM, Ant McWatt antmcw...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
Consequently,
Hi Carl,
Evolution! Levels in existence.
Joe
On 5/17/12 8:39 PM, Carl Thames ctha...@centurytel.net wrote:
I don't know how it came up, but recently I stumbled across what's known as
The Hard Question about consciousness. Specifically, that question is how
consciousness arises from
Hi Dan and All,
Levels in consciousness? You declare there are four levels of evolutionary
existence. It seems existence can be described as the medium of
evolutionary levels.
How many levels?
As a singer I am familiar with the acceptance of a seven discreet levels in
sound DQ, RE, MI, FA,
Hi Mark,
I don't know if you attach any meaning to parts of speech. Some words used
for meaning in this discussion were adjectives. In ordinary parlance
Quality, Quantity, good, true are adjectives that modify existing
nouns.
Can the meaning from adjectives like quality, quantity good, true
Hi Ant and All,
I have no idea what essential means in this context. If good exists how
is it differentiated by essential nature? Is essential nature not good?
Joe
On 5/11/12 10:24 AM, Ant McWatt antmcw...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
Well, I agree with Pirsig in that the Good¹s essential nature
Hi Mark and All,
In SOM this question has meaning logically.
In the metaphysics of a DQ/SQ reality a further problem arises. It is
impossible to discuss DQ mathematically since DQ is not conceptual in being
indefinable. Only analogy and metaphor handle DQ. The further perception
of analogy
Hi Ant and All,
Given the acceptance of evolutionary reality, essential nature modifies
reality SO. Instead of SO essential nature I prefer to conceptualize
evolution metaphysically as levels in existence for fundamental nature of.
Joe
On 5/11/12 11:02 AM, Ant McWatt antmcw...@hotmail.co.uk
Hi MarshaV and All,
IMHO Evolution, DQ, is perceived emotionally.
The intellectual conception of Evolution as levels in existence SQ follows
that DQ perception.
The emotional perception, apprehends indefinable values. I intellectually
conceptualize these values in evolution, levels in
Hi MarshaV and all,
Conceptualizing metaphysics in DQ/SQ format Pirsig accepts SQ reality/DQ
reality, evolution.
The indefinable is existent and experienced DQ. IMHO MOQ Evolution,
indefinable levels in existence, DQ/SQ metaphysical reality.
Joe
On 5/2/12 1:14 AM, MarshaV val...@att.net
Hi Ham and All,
In a metaphysical discussion you can't presume a definition. Metaphysics
formats physics logically. Awareness and otherness stand alone. Two
definitions are required for these two words in a metaphysical setting.
Subject and object exist differently. Are you suggesting that
Hi Tuukka,
In a metaphysical reality DQ/SQ, indefinable DQ is acceptable. I was trying
to conceptualize how definition like in mathematical reality is different
from metaphysical requirements.
Joe
On 5/1/12 12:10 PM, Tuukka Virtaperko m...@tuukkavirtaperko.net wrote:
Tuukka:
Yes you
Hi Ham and All,
I don't trust your statement that there are two entities to be accounted
for.
A conception of evolution as inorganic, organic1 (replication by a single
cell splitting itself), organic 2 (replication by the penetration of an egg
cell by a sperm cell) etc., suggests a finite
Hi Tuukka and All,
Color coding (the blue box) will not distinguish DQ from SQ. There can be
no defined process in apprehending indefinable DQ. DQ remains indefinable
and knowable. The intellect monitors definitions.
E.G., Emotions are DQ, indefinable. Is it possible to describe emotions in
Hi Mark and All,
DQ is indefinable. The metaphysics DQ/SQ conceptualizes evolution as
following a repeating format for differing levels in existence.
Conceptualize evolution?
Reality is DQ/SQ in MOQ. There is a level in evolution that conceptualizes
indefinable DQ. I suggest the format of the
Hi Tuukka and All,
Moving, temporal, emergent, evolutionary are good words when describing a
concept of reality.
A logic validating evolution points to a structure, like levels in existence
MOQ DQ/SQ, for indefinable/definable reality.
Indiscriminate SOM has no piece in a game distinguishing
Hi Ham and All,
I have no idea how you distinguish metaphysics from physics? A defined
language of physics, mathematics embraces SOM. SOM denies reality to the
indefinable aspect in logic found in DQ/SQ metaphysics. Analogy and
metaphor are indefinable when describing evolution as levels in
Hi Ham and all,
In my opinion essence is a bogus word. It combines two parts of speech,
to be (esse) and being (ens) in one conception thereby becoming twisted and
outside reality. Metaphysically two are not one. Whenever I see the word
essence I translate it to existence dq/sq and I feel more
Hi Tuukka and All,
Mathematics is a formal language, definable terms only for logic. MOQ
metaphysics supports logic in discussing indefinable/definable reality
DQ/SQ.
Rigid logic in mathematics does not configure evolution it accepts
evolution described by metaphysics. 1 is created, not
Hi Arlo and all,
Individuality is indefinable and seeks metaphysical justifications in
existence. E. g., in SOM 1, a metaphysical concept, is transcendent. 1 is
not DQ. What is 1 when I say 2?. Social is a negation of 1. In MOQ 1 is
redefined in a DQ/SQ indefinable/definable reality instead
Hi Ant and All,
The feeling of generosity and kindness that flow through your words leaves
me breathless. Thank you! As you probable guessed much of my philosophical
endeavors have been involved in trying to understand the Metaphysics of the
Greeks SOM (I am approaching 80 years old). I beg
Hi Ant and All,
Through the ages heroes have been made not born, or is it born not made? I
question your statement that intellect is as good as it gets. IMHO a hero
like Christ, Plato, Aristotle etc., were operating beyond commonly
understood intellectual capabilities
On 4/9/12 6:48 AM, Ant
Hi Andre and All,
I am trying to clarify, by speaking openly, what I envision privately. DQ
is existent though indefinable. That statement opens up questions for the
theory of knowledge--How do we know the indefinable? DQ/SQ metaphysics in
existence!
MOQ metaphysics accepts the proposal of
Hi Andre and All.
I don't know your take on evolution. MOQ indefinable DQ definable SQ
creates a framework for thought. Both exist.
The indefinable is not non existent! There are some thoughts for evolution
which are beyond logic like inorganic and organic existence which requires a
change in
Hi Andre,
WONDERFUL 111.
IMHO There are two Knives-Scalpels in a metaphysical discussion. EMOTIONS
DQ and INTELLECT SQ. IMHO ,1, starts at the level in evolution inorganic,
followed by organic (single cell-multiple cell),, emotional, intellectual,
esoteric (higher emotional, higher
Hi Tukka and all,
DQ is indefinable not unknowable. The theory of knowledge is broadened in a
conception of indefinable consciousness like the addition of free-will.
There is a difference between defined and experienced as. One is
intellectual the other is existential.
Knowledge describing
Hi Andre,
Shit happens!
Joe
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Of course I can give dozens more examples but I hope you get my drift Joe.
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Hi MarshaV and All'
True and False have existential connotations. I love it that Pirsig valued
indefinable DQ and definable SQ in existence.
Joe
On 3/29/12 9:37 PM, MarshaV val...@att.net wrote:
Protagoras: ³Man is the measure of all things.², or as poor maligned Lila
might have
Hi Andre,
If you don't create you're not responsible for it. I think free will fits
in there somewhere.
Joe
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Next she'll tell us that we create our own reality!
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The rigid logic of mathematics cannot embrace indefinable DQ. Levels in
evolution embrace DQ. The rigid logic of mathematics cannot embrace 1 as a
metaphysical principle of 1, individuality, which flows through different
disciplines in evolution.
Joe
On 3/30/12 6:50 AM, Tuukka
Hi Mark,
things which I can leave behind In a DQ/SQ metaphysics words are not
things. Words are signs for reality DQ/SQ.
Things have a strong affinity to existence SQ. It is a relief that DQ is
indefinable, limited existence, which helps me think. I am left on my own
and he who is led by
Hi Mark,
A mathematical conception of DQ is ambivalent. Metaphysics follows a
reality of perception prior to the logic of conception. There is a
difference between the perception of metaphysics and the conception of
mathematical logic. In MOQ there is no definition of DQ.
IMHO DQ is the
Hi Mark and All,
Imho Pirsig has provided the conception for that cypher DQ/SQ. DQ is the
indefinable emotional reality and SQ is defined intellectual reality.
Joe
On 3/25/12 6:11 PM, 118 ununocti...@gmail.com wrote:
The use of an appropriate cypher is required to decrypt
passages, which
Hi Marsha and all,
Are human cognitive processes the only experience of structured reality or
can animal/human instincts process DQ?
Joe
On 3/25/12 9:40 PM, MarshaV val...@att.net wrote:
Hi Craig,
On Mar 25, 2012, at 11:43 PM, craig...@comcast.net wrote:
[Craig, previously]
Can
:
Hi Joe,
No, not if you have a Heart.
Marsha
On Mar 26, 2012, at 2:15 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi Marsha and all,
Are human cognitive processes the only experience of structured reality or
can animal/human instincts process DQ?
Joe
On 3/25
Hi DMB and All,
My take on this particular passage: The impetus to defined DQ/SQ metaphysics
is the perception that indefinable emotion is the door DQ/SQ.
Joe
On 3/24/12 9:37 PM, david buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.com quotes James:
The underlying unity of qualitativeness regulates pertinence
Hi Mark,
Imho There is one meaning for cognition which follows a logic for physical
reality dependent on mathematical logic for verification, physics.
There is a further meaning in cognition which accepts DQ/SQ metaphysics.
Evolution is beyond mathematical physics.
Mathematics a lower level can
Hi DMB,
To start a post with the statement below and then continue the criticism
leaves you open to the observation that possibly you are viewing things from
a weird perspective.
Joe
On 3/22/12 6:18 AM, david buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.com wrote:
There's no way to know for sure
Hi DMB and All,
I have no interest in getting a PHD degree.
I feel you are biased and speaking from a pedestal instead of from a level
in evolution which you have attained. The idea of business you appeal to
can be a lie and non-existent in being specified only by a vague here.
Joe
On
Hi DMB and all,
How do dictionaries define evolution? Is it static and ever-changing?
On 3/21/12 12:39 PM, david buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.com wrote:
(According to all the dictionaries static and ever-changing have opposite
meanings so that they could never rightly be equated.)
Hi DMB,
As I approach my 80th birthday I have to agree with everything you have
said. Still there is something in me that hollers Pay Attention! I do not
expect a revelation. Speaker and audience have differing outlooks.
Evolution is a nightmare yet very reasonable.
I don't think you value
Hi David,
What do dictionaries have to do with DQ?
JOE
On 3/21/12 1:15 PM, david buchanan dmbucha...@hotmail.com wrote:
How do dictionaries define evolution? Is it static and ever-changing?
evolution |ˌevəˈloō sh ən|noun1 the process by which different kinds of living
organisms are
Hi Andre and All,
Imho evolution is a twisted knot in existence. DQ, indefinable, in
originating evolution creates a dual meaning DQ/SQ while remaining
indefinable. DQ/SQ is a metaphysical formulation for all reality not a
formula in physics. In an indefinable, definable relationship, MOQ
, Mar 17, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi Ron,
Metaphysics are intellectual! It's a touchdown! Water boys don't play!
Joe
On 3/17/12 6:20 AM, X Acto xa...@rocketmail.com wrote:
What can be said is that a MoQ is an intellectual idea about making good
value
Hi Ron,
Metaphysics are intellectual! It's a touchdown! Water boys don't play!
Joe
On 3/17/12 6:20 AM, X Acto xa...@rocketmail.com wrote:
What can be said is that a MoQ is an intellectual idea about making good value
distinctions.
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:15 PM, 118 ununocti...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Joe,
What I mean is more faith. What do you not understand about that?
Do you not have more faith in somethings as opposed to others? I am
not sure where you are going with this, but I am interested.
Cheers,
Mark
On 3/12/12, Joseph Maurer jh
Hi Mark and All,
I do not understand more faith? Feelings (emotions) are indefinable. DQ
has an indefinable structure in the core.
Joe
On 3/11/12 9:14 PM, 118 ununocti...@gmail.com wrote:
I have more faith in what I do not understand, but can feel in my core.
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Hi Mark and All,
Imho Distractions can be DQ or SQ. Focusing attention adds emphasis to
the awareness for revealing distractions by acknowledging the order in
individuality and evolution.
Joe
On 3/10/12 6:22 PM, 118 ununocti...@gmail.com wrote:
I am not sure what you
mean by focussing your
Hi MarshaV and all,
Have a relationship.. I agree with you! A pattern of inorganic
reality, must differ in sensation from a pattern of organic reality in order
to tell them apart.
I do not use Pirsig's 4 levels for evolution. As a singer I am more
intrigued by the musical scale Do, re,
Hi Mark and All,
I describe evolution as describing discrete levels in existence. Focusing
attention is useful when describing levels in existence, evolution. For me
looking through a microscope (a tool for visual enlargement a little
stronger than a pair of binoculars) is the analogy I use
Hi Mark and All,
What if existence is patterned and my creation is simply the result of
focusing my attention? I would then become aware of the level in existence
under consideration. Evolution describes the level of the existence of the
individual in a moral order.
Joe
On 3/10/12 9:45 AM,
Hi Mark and All,
IMHO DQ cannot be 0. In any format 0 is non-existence not a midpoint in
logic between +1 and -1.
DQ is indefinable and exists. Metaphysics DQ/SQ is the format for reality,
logic. It cannot support reality in a language of creation from nothing by
an unlimited force. There is
HI MarshaV,
???
Joe
On 3/9/12 4:40 AM, MarshaV val...@att.net wrote:
Joe,
01001001 0010 01101100 0110 01110110 01100101 0010 0001
0110 01110101 00101100 0010 01101010 0110 01100101
Marsha
On Mar 8, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Joseph Maurer jh
be made of one and
zero as in the binary system of numbers which is used for computers. There
were times when those zeros had an important relationship in decoding computer
dumps. That was a very long time ago, though.
Marsha
On Mar 8, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net
Hi Marsha and All,
I find no negation in 0. It is hard for me to see 0 as a relationship of
the midpoint between +1 and -1.
Joe
On 3/8/12 2:18 AM, MarshaV val...@att.net wrote:
Marsha:
I understand granite, dog, family and zero all to be relationships and
processes (patterns).
Hi Mark and all,
And away we Go!
On 3/5/12 9:39 PM, 118 ununocti...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Joe,
Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
Mark
On Mar 5, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi David,
A logic of a metaphysics of DQ/SQ, begs the question: How can
Hi Ham,
Good to read you posting again! Flattery will get you everywhere!
Joe
On 3/6/12 12:35 AM, Ham Priday hampd...@verizon.net wrote:
And friend Joseph is so fixated on evolutionary theory that he cannot
explain human Will or Intellect as anything but a product of passions and
Hi David,
A logic of a metaphysics of DQ/SQ, begs the question: How can an
indefinable DQ have meaning?
In SOM S depends on O activity in the definition in existence. S has no
definition in existence awaiting O's behavior.
Different activities determine a reality manifesting existence.
Hi Andre and all,
I am confused at a dust up over Love. In the past in a discussion of
parts of speech I was taught that Quality and Quantity were accepted as the
first adjectives modifying nouns.
Quality has a history. Patterns of quality seems to let Quality stand
alone as a noun although
Hi Mark and All,
Hi Mark and All,
In my opinion, feeling's cannot be divided
into categories outside of the intellect.
I do not know how you rationalize DQ. For myself I view feelings as
emotions and imho indefinable emotions have metaphysical reality DQ in MOQ.
categories is a product of
Wow!
Joe
On 3/2/12 8:56 AM, 118 ununocti...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Marsha,
I fully understand what you are saying by the not knowable stuff
below. I have been there and moved on, or maybe come back is more
appropriate.
This not D,D,K is not an unusual way in which to present a
Hi Andre,
I did not realize I was upsetting you! I am sorry! In my last post
everything came through as though I was reposting. Computers!
I do not know how you view SOM, nor your understanding of how MOQ is such a
huge clarification in metaphysics. I am old and I apologize for a feeling
of
Hi David,
DQ is a metaphysical term, indefinable in levels in existence, evolution.
DQ is not non-existent. Behavior follows existence DQ/SQ. Emotions are DQ.
The conception of a level in evolution, not the existence of the level,
follows the manifestation of that level in DQ/SQ metaphysics.
Hi Mark,
Can I conceptualize will following the template provided by the intellect?
How would will ever recognize such a template? A cart before the horse
problem since will determines my actions while psychology describes them.
Determination follows description follows reality.
Evolution as
Hi Mark and All,
What are the most common approaches to experiencing reality? Touch in a
spectrum from gas to liquid to solid, soft to rigid. Sight in a color
spectrum from infra red to ultra violet. Sound in a scale Do RE MI_FA Sol
La Ti_DO repeating at doubled intensity ad infinitum?.
Imho
Hi Mark,
DQ is not non-existent in being indefinable. IMHO I experience the
indefinable emotionally.
Joe
On 2/26/12 9:09 PM, 118 ununocti...@gmail.com wrote:
Only I will ever know that I am here. To others I am just another person
who could be any I.
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Hi Mark and All,
The words come slower and slower as I get older. A group is defined by the
definition of individuality which comes first. IMHO the individual can be
said to exist beyond mathematical 1. Thing, good, true, something have
meaning. There is an indefinable metaphysics beyond 1.
Hi David and All,
You mention a God hypothesis and other intriguing claims, but I did not
see a reference to the evolution of levels in existence to describe
individuality in reality.
The individual cannot have defining existence but can be defined by the
existence it has. Evolution is an
Hi Mark and all,
Metaphysics is a format. Physics follows the defined description of a
format. Meaning in DQ/SQ follows the format where one aspect of knowledge
is indefinable by individualization. In evolution 1 is not definable and
mathematical logic is inadequate.
In analogy and metaphor
Hi Mark,
This sentence hit my logic button, particularly the phrase Other species
who must constantly be in tune with DQ. I am unclear what other species
mean. Are these aliens from other planets or individuals on our own planet?
I can not follow when DQ is unrelated to self awareness. I
Hi Mark and All,
I am thinking of levels in evolution. Pirsig's metaphysics of Quality DQ/SQ
proposes that one level DQ is indefinable. The other level SQ is definable
and limited since unlimited is indefinable. Oddly enough as I ponder this I
expect that SQ is a higher level than DQ since it
for your opinion. I simply had no reply.
Mostly because I did not understand it.
Cheers,
Mark
On 2/13/12, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi Mark,
Kid gloves? I come from a family with 14 children and differences became
acceptable after enough squabbling.
Joe
On 2/12/12
Hi MarshaV and all,
Imho Language is in turmoil. MOQ metaphysics defining reality is under
discussion. My view is that evolution cannot be conceptualized as SOM
creation. MOQ views evolution in terms of DQ/SQ structuring reality in
existence.
For example in metaphysics the word QUALITY
confess, I have no idea what you are talking about, but it
sounds interesting. Type away, I am listening. I know that my wife
is my better half.
Mark
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi Mark and all,
I do not know how you view sexual differences
about, but it
sounds interesting. Type away, I am listening. I know that my wife
is my better half.
Mark
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi Mark and all,
I do not know how you view sexual differences: Man/Woman. An emphasis on
differences between
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