RE: MD A fifth quality level?

2001-06-29 Thread Stephen Devlin
-Original Message- From: Platt Holden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 June 2001 20:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: MD A fifth quality level? Hi Stephen Devlin: STEPHEN: The intellect likes hierarchies, boxes, tables and further abstractions but the Anahorov-Bohm effect

RE: MD A fifth quality level?

2001-06-29 Thread Platt Holden
Hi Stephen: Many thanks for the explanation of the Aharonov-Bohm effect. As I understand it, Bohm rejected the idea that an observer was necessary for quantum effects to take place, ruling out mind or consciousness as playing any role at that level. The question then arises, How could DQ

Re: MD A fifth quality level?

2001-06-29 Thread skutvik
Hi Squonk and Discussers. You said: Quality relieved me of all that science stuff also. I came to realise that science is a creative activity; a quality activity — and high quality at that. But the static patterns a high quality creative activity generates is not the whole of reality is

RE: MD A fifth quality level?

2001-06-28 Thread skutvik
Stephen, Squonk MoQ Discuss. I have discussed the Quality idea at these moq.org sites for ever it seems, and have heard/seen names dropped (none mentioned none forgotten) all supposed to say the same as Pirsig or their ideas to have some bearing on the Quality Metaphysics. Nothing wrong

RE: MD A fifth quality level?

2001-06-28 Thread Stephen Devlin
: RE: MD A fifth quality level? Stephen, Squonk MoQ Discuss. I have discussed the Quality idea at these moq.org sites for ever it seems, and have heard/seen names dropped (none mentioned none forgotten) all supposed to say the same as Pirsig or their ideas to have some bearing on the Quality

Re: MD A fifth quality level?

2001-06-28 Thread SQUONKSTAIL
of anything become nebulous? Intellectual patterns may become fully public? Best wishes everyone... Squonk. :-) In a message dated 6/28/01 11:05:21 AM GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subj: RE: MD A fifth quality level? Date: 6/28/01 11:05:21 AM GMT Daylight Time From: [EMAIL

RE: MD A fifth quality level?

2001-06-28 Thread Platt Holden
Hi Stephen Devlin: STEPHEN: The intellect likes hierarchies, boxes, tables and further abstractions but the Anahorov-Bohm effect (experimentally verified) is showing that matter is aware of its surroundings thus showing that there is an interrelationship that the present MOQ hierarchy

Re: MD A fifth quality level?

2001-06-26 Thread SQUONKSTAIL
://www.fdavidpeat.com/interviews/bohm.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 June 2001 01:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD A fifth quality level? In a message dated 6/22/01 8:50:02 PM GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

RE: MD A fifth quality level?

2001-06-25 Thread Stephen Devlin
For Bo, here is something i found that might illustrate some of the parallels to what pirsig has in the MOQ and some of the physics research of david bohm His textbook on quantum theory, written while still at Princeton, became a classic for its clarity, always relying on physical argument

Re: MD A fifth quality level?

2001-06-25 Thread SQUONKSTAIL
In a message dated 6/25/01 3:39:56 PM GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This effect, they argued, is central to quantum mechanics, implying that even quite distant objects can affect quantum processes. These non-local correlation's have nothing to do with traditional forms of

RE: MD A fifth quality level?

2001-06-25 Thread Stephen Devlin
be communicated. http://www.fdavidpeat.com/interviews/bohm.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 June 2001 01:31 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD A fifth quality level? In a message dated 6/22/01 8:50:02 PM GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: MD A fifth quality level?

2001-06-22 Thread SQUONKSTAIL
In a message dated 6/22/01 8:50:02 PM GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, the fact that Intellect doesn't dominate all cultures is an important point, its age (emergence) however depends on how we define it, but the MoQ postulates that each level starts as a pattern of the