RE: MD A fifth quality level?

2001-06-29 Thread Stephen Devlin
Hi Platt The Aharonov-Bohm Effect In classical mechanics the motion of a charged particle is not affected by the presence of magnetic fields in regions from which the particle is excluded. The motion of classical particles emitted by the source S is not affected by the magnetic field B because

Re: MD Real Libertarians Please Stand Up

2001-06-29 Thread Andrea Sosio
Hi Platt, What I meant is that I regard nothing as more worthy than human life, and this for the many reasons explained elsewhere. I will never feel comfortable with the idea that some men are entitled to decide of another man's life. On the other hand, if human life is so important, in line of

Re: MD Real Libertarians Please Stand Up

2001-06-29 Thread Platt Holden
Hi Andrea: What I meant was that you should go to Africa to distribute condoms to prevent AIDS and the subsequent deaths from that behaviorial disease, not to prevent children from being born into misery. Since you value human life above all else, it seems you should be doing that or

Re: MD The Education System

2001-06-29 Thread marco
or senescence? Generally, the older we get, the more we appreciate static Quality (or, on the other hand, we fear DQ). Maybe we can have wisdom just for one moment, somewhere in the middle of our life... when Dynamic enthousiasm and static prudence are in perfect armony. Marco Midway on

RE: MD A fifth quality level?

2001-06-29 Thread Platt Holden
Hi Stephen: Many thanks for the explanation of the Aharonov-Bohm effect. As I understand it, Bohm rejected the idea that an observer was necessary for quantum effects to take place, ruling out mind or consciousness as playing any role at that level. The question then arises, How could DQ

Re: MD A fifth quality level?

2001-06-29 Thread skutvik
Hi Squonk and Discussers. You said: Quality relieved me of all that science stuff also. I came to realise that science is a creative activity; a quality activity — and high quality at that. But the static patterns a high quality creative activity generates is not the whole of reality is

Re: MD Real Libertarians Please Stand Up

2001-06-29 Thread Marco
Platt, Andrea, all Most humantarians talk a good game, but rarely practice what they preach. Indeed a good reason to be anti-humanitarian Pirsig railed against Rigel in Chapter 7 of LIla: The ones who go posing as moralists are the worst. Cost-free morals. Full of great ways for

Re: MD Real Libertarians Please Stand Up

2001-06-29 Thread Marco
Glen If there's something I can't bear is to be called racist. Call me stupid, arrogant, weak, unfair, ignorant ... and I will smile. But not racist ! 1. I don't think that a civil war is always a good option. During the cold war, both Russians and Americans were well disposed to give help

Re: MD Real Libertarians Please Stand Up

2001-06-29 Thread Platt Holden
Hi Marco: Most humantarians talk a good game, but rarely practice what they preach. Indeed a good reason to be anti-humanitarian No, a good reason not to trust those who boast about their humanitarism. Pirsig railed against Rigel in Chapter 7 of LIla: The ones who go posing

Re: MD Religion/God ~ MoQ/DQ

2001-06-29 Thread Wim Nusselder
Dear John, Your conclusions (27/6 05:11 +1000) from what I sent you about Quakers (24/6 23:07 +0200) are correct I think. I have some doubts about the final decision is communal rather than individual (contrary to Pirsig). The descriptions of what happens seem to justify this conclusion,

RE: MD Real Libertarians Please Stand Up

2001-06-29 Thread N. Glen Dickey
Marco, You seem pretty uptight about this racist thing. You think you've never had a rascist thought or never made a racist statement before? What are you some kind of special uber human? I was fortunately enough to grow up around all kinds of people and it's my observation that non-virulent

RE: MD Real Libertarians Please Stand Up

2001-06-29 Thread N. Glen Dickey
Andrea, Platt and all, While i'm not keen on social pattern (the state) destroying intellectual patterns (citizens), there are some animals (biological patterns) out there that happen to share a species with you and me. Look at any case history of a serial killer and it's clear that social

Re: MD Real Libertarians Please Stand Up

2001-06-29 Thread David Scarlett
Andi Norby wrote: David, I have a lot of trouble understanding your statement below. It seems to be in support of the death penalty, although you don't say that explicitly. SNIP I suppose I just don't see how killing someone is more effective than locking them up. McVeigh would not have