To bring this back to the subject:
Truth is a [singular] static intellectual pattern [singular] within a
larger entity called Quality. James had tried to make his pragmatism popular by
getting it elected on the coattails of practicality. He was always eager to use
such expressions as
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JanAnders,
I bet there has been more than a billion words written in addressing the
Western philosophical understanding of truth. If there has been any value to
those billion words, I think that RMP would say it is in the intellectual
inquiry and analysis, not any belief.
Marsha
Greetings Adrie.
Congratulations with your improved English/American, you sound like
a genuine native and also, in this post at least, air some interesting
thoughts about the MOQ.
Pirsig played with the idea that we are in need of a fift level, the
quantum level probably, but was doubting it
What the fuck is this Adrie?
Horse
On 27/05/2013 10:25, ADRIE KINTZIGER wrote:
Greetings Adrie.
Congratulations with your improved English/American, you sound like
a genuine native and also, in this post at least, air some interesting
thoughts about the MOQ.
Pirsig played with the idea
dmb,
From these quotes you seem to have extracted and formulated some kind of
belief that you think I violate. But accusing me of violating your ambiguous
beliefs is silly and not something I am not willing to give time to. Please
extract from these RMP quotes the precise symbols and exact
djh had said:
I'm trying to answer this as directly as possible dmb but you seem to keep
missing my point. ...Pirsig clearly explains that a metaphysics - which is
nothing but a bunch of definitions of philosophical concepts - is immoral and
degenerate *because* it is an attempt of
Hi all
In my view, MOQ IS at the 5th level, because metaphysics is based above, or
outside the intellectual level.
Jan-Anders
Adrie said:
Pirsig played with the idea that we are in need of a fift level, the quantum
level probably, but was doubting it at the same time. He is a writer,
To conclude Truth [singular](added by Marsha)
connects with is which is
is [verb]
1. 3rd person singular present indicative of be.
Be
verb (used without object)
1. to exist or live
2. to take place; happen; occur:
So Marsha is asserting that Truth is a singular experience in process.
“. . . the Metaphysics of Quality does not insist on a single exclusive truth.
If subjects and objects are held to be the ultimate reality then we're
permitted only one construction of things - that which corresponds to the
'objective' world - and all other constructions are unreal. [This is
Jan-Anders said:
In my view, MOQ IS at the 5th level, because metaphysics is based above, or
outside the intellectual level.
dmb says:
Metaphysics is above the intellectual level? Metaphysics is just a branch of
philosophy. It's the area of philosophy that deals with the most basic
dmb,
I posted two RMP quotes (statements made by Mr. Pirsig) where he uses the
singular form of the verb 'to be' pertaining to 'truth'. Read the post. I
made no additional points, but merely posted RMP's words. Read RMP's words. I
doubt that he had a lapse in using the rules of grammar.
Corrected RMP language from 'a static pattern of truth' to 'a static
intellectual pattern'. Still the usage is singular.
On May 27, 2013, at 1:18 PM, MarshaV wrote:
dmb,
I posted two RMP quotes (statements made by Mr. Pirsig) where he uses the
singular form of the verb 'to be'
Jan
To keep it simple, the MOQ is purely an intellectual pattern. The fourth level
if you like. The fifth level (whatever that will be...) hasn't evolved yet
(although maybe it's already arrived in the form of little green men!). Also,
keep in mind what Mr Buchanan has said recently about
Hi Ant and All,
It seems the sound octave and the color spectrum could influence
intellectual patterns.
Joe
On 5/27/13 11:56 AM, Ant McWatt antmcw...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
To keep it simple, the MOQ is purely an intellectual pattern.
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djh said to dmb:
...Anyway - I'll also speak to your specific charge that I seem to claim that
it's 'always wrong to skillfully manipulate abstract concepts or define any
words.' Of course I don't think it's always wrong for, as you seem to agree,
the conclusion would be that there's no point
dmb,
The automobile, the airplane and the bicycle do not translate into a legitimate
replacement for 'a static intellectual pattern'. The automobile, the airplane
and the bicycle represent a straw man argument:
A straw man argument is a rhetorical device that is meant to easily prove that
Hi Joe Ant,
I take the two-view perspective of the MoQ. One view is the MoQ as the
intellectual/conceptual metaphysical system, with all its examples and
supporting explanation, which was presented by RMP in 'LILA' and with
interviews, text and letters; and there is the MoQ as Reality =
Jan-Anders said:
In my view, MOQ IS at the 5th level, because metaphysics is based above, or
outside the intellectual level.
dmb says:
Metaphysics is above the intellectual level? Metaphysics is just a branch of
philosophy. It's the area of philosophy that deals with the most basic
Warwoman sez to Dmb:
The automobile, the airplane and the bicycle do not translate into a legitimate
replacement for 'a static intellectual pattern'. The automobile, the airplane
and the bicycle represent a straw man argument:
Ron sez:
.
Read carefully this time because you are doing the
djh responds to Dmb:
I think you're both correct and incorrect here. You're correct that Mysticism
and Intellectual quality do indeed work together. But the key point here is
that they work together by being mutually exclusive and in opposition!
[Ron]
So you criticize Dmb for being
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