[Mpls] Re: Multi-Party endorsement (was Samuels vs. Price: discuss)

2002-12-17 Thread Tim Bonham
I could imagine a candidate who would be supported by local Green, DFL, and GOP voters. Why should they not get all three endorsements? . . . - Jason goray, Sheridan, NE. Because Minnesota law prohibits this. Needless to say, I cancelled my automatic monthly donation to the PM party.

RE: [Mpls] Re: Samuels vs. Price: discuss

2002-12-17 Thread David Shove
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, Pamela Taylor wrote: Many moons ago when I ran for school board I was endorsed first by the Progressive MN group. Then I was also endorsed by the Independent Party. They could have endorsed four candidates since four seats were open. They chose to only endorse two of

[Mpls] Affordable housing, budget news

2002-12-17 Thread List Manager
City Council approves budget 12-0, but foresees future cuts; $10 million affordable housing trust fund advances. Budget: http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/3537395.html http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/local/4754947.htm Affordable housing:

Re: [Mpls] From the Utne Reader

2002-12-17 Thread Paul Rohlfing
This is an interesting idea Mark. Unlike an anti-Iraq war resolution (which, I still maintain, would send a powerful message), a bill of rights defense resolution could have a real impact on how some of our local institutions actually operate (police and libraries come to mind immediately).

[Mpls] Re: GOP Endorsing Greens

2002-12-17 Thread Andy Driscoll
Allow me, please. Coleman was urging a vote for the Green candidate to divide progressives and keep them from moving to Mondale when they might have voted for either Wellstone or Tricomo, but more likely the man leading Coleman by 9 points at the time of the plane crash...Wellstone. Norm Coleman

RE: [Mpls] Re: GOP Endorsing Greens

2002-12-17 Thread List Manager
Andy, all: the U.S. Senate race is not a Minneapolis issue. This thread is played out, at least for the purposes of this list. Please only send posts such as these to Minnesota Politics Discuss. David Brauer List manager -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [Mpls] From the Utne Reader/Blame DC?Think Local

2002-12-17 Thread PennBroKeith
In a message dated 12/16/02 9:44:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Declare Your Town a Civil Liberties Safe Zone December 16, 2002 By Leif Utne, Utne In the face of the Bush administration's relentless drive to erode civil liberties under the banner of the

Re: [Mpls] Prop Tax Calc and falling Tax Capacity

2002-12-17 Thread phaedrus
Property Taxes and a short aside on the Civil Liberties discussion. Can someone point me at a nice concise description of the difference between a progressive and regressive tax? A snapshot of property tax impact (not a statement for or against property taxes): The timing's kind of ironic, but

[Mpls] Green/green

2002-12-17 Thread James E. Jacobsen
Ref the 'Greens', and the 'Republicrats' and all the brewing stew of city politics, The last city election, I favored the greens because they were an alternative to the machine. I know all the machine types say there is no machine, but these people wouldn't be convicted and

[Mpls] Property Tax Riddle: What do you get when you rob Peter to pay Paul?

2002-12-17 Thread Victoria Heller
.a very happy Paul, and a very sore Peter. Andy Driscoll wrote: It's insane that we charge exactly the same taxes to people living next door to each other, regardless of their incomes and ability to pay. I see no justification in such regressive taxation. Mark Anderson wrote: One of the

Re: [Mpls] MPD and protesters

2002-12-17 Thread Mike Nelson
Considering that it has been our patriotic duty to shop otherwise the terrorists will have won, I am surprised the police presence at this event wasn't beefed up by the Homeland Security folks. Linda Mann Kingfield MN: Oh, they were there. You can bet on that. I doubt they wear uniforms,

[Mpls] Coalition of Black Churches attempts to stop federal mediation

2002-12-17 Thread Shawn Lewis
Mediation with police will start when community is together David Chanen Star Tribune Published Dec. 17, 2002 The start of mediation to improve Minneapolis police relations with the community depends on when the community decides who will represent it. Talks had been set to start

[Mpls] StarTribune and TV News show true Discrimination

2002-12-17 Thread JIM GRAHAM
Last week during the Gang Task Force discussions another important meeting was sadly ignored. Representatives and Senators brought a legislative meeting or pre-hearing on the concentration of Class III sexual predators to the neighborhood (or small town) with the greatest concentration of those

Re: [Mpls] MPD and protesters

2002-12-17 Thread Jim MCGUIRE
The police being an overwhelming presence (and undercover) at demonstrations is nothing new. In the '80s at an El Salvador protest, for example, I remember the time a demonstrator had his silver mohawk wig removed after someone in the crowd noticed that he had handcuffs in his pocket. He then

Re: [Mpls] Re: Multi-Party endorsement (was Samuels vs. Price: discuss)

2002-12-17 Thread Greg Abbott
On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 02:01 AM, Tim Bonham wrote: I could imagine a candidate who would be supported by local Green, DFL, and GOP voters. Why should they not get all three endorsements? . . . - Jason goray, Sheridan, NE. Because Minnesota law prohibits this. I must disagree

Re: [Mpls] Re: Multi-Party endorsement

2002-12-17 Thread David Brauer
Greg A., esq. writes: As interpreted by the city, a candidate cannot use the 3 words to identify more than one political party. DFL/Republican is out of bounds - a candidate can list only one party, DFL or Republican. Hmm...it appears fushion IS prohibited, by bureaucratic fiat if not actual

Re: [Mpls] Re: Multi-Party endorsement

2002-12-17 Thread Alan Hooker
It's no more bewildering than candidates in New York state securing the endorsements of multiple parties. For example, Pataki sought the endorsements of the Republican Party and NY Conservative Party. Andrew Cuomo (for Governor) and Eliot Spitzer (for Attorney General) received the

Re: [Mpls] Don Samuels and the 3rd Ward

2002-12-17 Thread Jhpalmerjp
In a message dated 12/16/2002 7:41:47 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But, at the DFL endorsing convention, he wasn't able to answer a question about the continuation of TIF. When I was a a candidate for office, I don't think everybody expected me to know the answers to every

[Mpls] RE:Coalition of Black Churches attempts to stop federal mediation

2002-12-17 Thread V.L. Freeman
Okay now this is getting a little to crazy. I care about who is representing me; However, why must there be a struggle. The community cries about getting on with business, yet we cannot even make up our minds as to whom is to sit at the table. This is a sad day. How are we to set examples to

[Mpls] RE: GOP, Greens, and sheep

2002-12-17 Thread Steve Sumner
Linda, I find Republicans much more open to discussing issues and being respectful of others views on things. It was Reagan that said if someone agrees with you 80% of the time, I consider them a friend. Last time I checked Ronnie was a Republican.Also, I would challenge you to be a bit more

Re: [Mpls] A plea to Minneapolis dog owners

2002-12-17 Thread sodo12
What a nice caring person you are! Happy Holidays! On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 09:14:35 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please, please, please put an identifying tag WITH YOUR PHONE NUMBER on it on your dog - especially if she/he is big and likes to roam. A license tag is USELESS on the weekends,

Re: [Mpls] RE: GOP, Greens, and sheep

2002-12-17 Thread Gypsycurse7
Uh Steve, Not to quibble or anything but I think you're the one who ridiculed me first. Anyway, before poor David has to jump in to say we're off topic, I am ready to drop this discussion about whether the duopoly is any less respectful of the voters than I have been to others (or something

Re: [Mpls] MPD and protesters/TP and NonProfiteers

2002-12-17 Thread PennBroKeith
Linda Mann Kingfield Said: Considering that it has been our patriotic duty to shop otherwise the terrorists will have won, I am surprised the police presence at this event wasn't beefed up by the Homeland Security folks. In a message dated 12/17/02 10:08:13 AM Pacific

Re: [Mpls] Re: Multi-Party endorsement

2002-12-17 Thread David Shove
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Alan Hooker wrote: Thus, what is so strange about someone being endorsed by the DFL (itself a fusion of 3 political groups circa 1940's) and the Green Party simultaneously? It would be all one way. I believe the DFL has a rule forbidding endorsement of other parties.

RE: [Mpls] Re: Multi-Party endorsement

2002-12-17 Thread McGreevy, James A., III
Hang on. Fusion doesn't lessen choices. If party rules were equal and a DFLer sought the Green Party endorsement, the Green party endorsers could chose the DFLer or someone else. If your premise is that candidates should seek and abide by party endorsement, fusion doesn't matter. As someone

[Mpls] Downtown Shopping

2002-12-17 Thread Dean Carlson
Interesting article in the Star Tribune about shopping downtown: http://www.startribune.com/stories/1557/3537000.html We went to our annual christmas downtown excursion tonight. It was pretty bleak. Very few people, the Marshall Fields Christmas show was lame, prices slashed everywhere (great

Re: [Mpls] Re: Multi-Party endorsement

2002-12-17 Thread Cameron A. Gordon
Jim, I think that multi - party endorsement may be one tool to help build a healthier multi party democracy here in Minneapolis. This might be especially true if voters could indicate party choice along with the candidate choice. Could you share with us how it works in New York? thanks,

RE: [Mpls] Re: Multi-Party endorsement

2002-12-17 Thread David Shove
Fusion was pushed strongly several years back by Progressive Minnesota. They got 25,000 validated signatures to co-endorse Wellstone; Wellstone's office would not take a position on it - until the last day, when it had to -- No, it said, it is too complicated. Three DFL Leg candidates wanted it;