Re: [Mpls] smoking ban

2004-06-02 Thread David Shove
The writer seems to have no problem with non-smokers having no choice in bars. Let them all stay home. What rights do the 80% have? Apparently none. What rights do smokers and tobacco companies have? Apparently, all. Let the minority kick around the majority. A tyranny of the minority. I want t

Re: [Mpls] Barkley's loss can be your gain

2004-06-02 Thread Annie Young
Well, Mayor - I will not be on your "night life in Minneapolis" extravaganza. Although for a very worthy cause I just can't believe you think you can go to four or five places on a bus in 2 hours and call that a party. Sounds more like trying to herd the farm cats into the barn. Anyway to ge

Re: [Mpls] What if it weren't true? - debunked

2004-06-02 Thread Mark Snyder
I had to chuckle when I saw this thread start up. As a chemist and environmental scientist, I see a lot of foolishness like this. Sometimes it comes from whack jobs, sometimes from paid mouthpieces/industry fronts and sometimes just from people who may mean well, but just don't really understand

Re: [Mpls] The Head Waiter v. The Mayor

2004-06-02 Thread md
Politicans are great at multi-tasking and being in as many places as they can...now finding... bouncers? who will pick up everyone else and hurl them forward to each destination on time should be a challenge. Madeline Douglass Kingfield *saving my pennies for a Segway ride around the Mill

Re: [Mpls] smoking ban

2004-06-02 Thread ricknorby
Michael, Not very pragmatic. I think we can all aspire to a higher level of debate than this. Rick Norby Keewaydin On Jun 2, 2004, at 3:03 PM, Michael Atherton wrote: Rick Norby wrote: I do stay out of smoky bars whenever possible. I also love our local music scene which is all too often restrict

[Mpls] The Head Waiter v. The Mayor

2004-06-02 Thread Lee R Eklund
Initially, I think it is a bit unfair to compare the Mayor to a head waiter, Having spent a number of years as a waiter during college and graduate school, the head waiter exercises a great deal of authority. The head waiter assigns shifts, tables and can generally make employment miserable sho

[Mpls] Sir Charles did indeed compare Mayor's to head waiters

2004-06-02 Thread m1r3201
Lisa M. is correct...Sir Charles did indeed say that Mayors and head waiters are about the same to him... Margaret Hastings-Mpls-Kingfield REMINDERS: 1. Think a member has violated the rules? Email the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the

RE: [Mpls] Pawlenty vetoes Mpls project

2004-06-02 Thread David Brauer
Sorry to be obscure, Gregory. I'm speculating that because the Minneapolis delegation didn't vote the Governor's way on any number of things (Yecke, bonding specifics, ed standards, etc.), he might have vetoed a project that would help the city. After all, there's probably a special session comi

RE: [Mpls] Pawlenty vetoes Mpls project

2004-06-02 Thread Gregory Luce
I've been meaning to ask, despite likely showing how I may be politically well out of the loop, but just what is it payback for? I ask genuinely, as I'm scratching my head and waiting for one of those less and less frequent "Ahaah" moments. Gregory Luce St. Paul The List Manager wrote: Subject:

Re: [Mpls] Barkley's loss can be your gain

2004-06-02 Thread Dennis Plante
Lisa McDonald Writes: Actually Barkley wasn't afraid of going out with the mayor, in fact he indicated the other night at the game that he wasn't interested in going out with the mayor. I think his comment was something to the effect of "all mayors are like head waiters." (i.e. I just don't thin

[Mpls] RE: Smoking Ban

2004-06-02 Thread Shawn
Okay. I've been watching the smoking topic go back and forth and haven't said anything - yet. There have been many valid points made and I do see both sides. As a smoker, I obviously like the fact that I have a place I can go in public where I'm actually ALLOWED to smoke. I am hooked and have

RE: [Mpls] smoking ban

2004-06-02 Thread Terrell Brown
--- Michael Atherton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ed Felien wrote: > > > Your freedom to swing your foot ends with my butt. > > Does this imply that my foot is resting on your butt? > An unpleasant thought, but maybe an apt metaphor. > Maybe you should move your butt out of range of my > foot

Re: [Mpls] Barkley's loss can be your gain

2004-06-02 Thread Lisa McDonald
Actually Barkley wasn't afraid of going out with the mayor, in fact he indicated the other night at the game that he wasn't interested in going out with the mayor. I think his comment was something to the effect of "all mayors are like head waiters." (i.e. I just don't think he was the least bit

[Mpls] Barkley's loss can be your gain

2004-06-02 Thread Rybak, R.T.
Who dares to tred where Sir Charles dare not walk? (FYI: I'm open to more ideas about where to take folks on the nightlife tour.) R.T. Rybak Here's the release that just went out: The tour Charles Barkley was afraid to take Join Mayor Rybak on a tour of Minneapolis nightlife,a fundraiser for

[Mpls] Re: Fantasy Group Needs New Members: Above the Falls Citizen Advisory Committee

2004-06-02 Thread mpls-issues
On Wed Jun 2 11:35:23 CDT 2004 Dyna Sluyter dyna at unions-america.com wrote: On Wednesday, June 2, 2004, at 10:17 AM, Svattheriver at aol.com wrote: So could we Northsiders make these decisions ourselves without the inevitable meddling of the more gentrified neighborhoods who think they kno

Re: [Mpls] Re: Group Needs New Members: Above the Falls Citizen Advisory Committee

2004-06-02 Thread Chris Johnson
Dyna Sluyter wrote: The Upper Harbor Terminal has- I think 5 employees- and is a financial drain on the City. Because it has been neglected and poorly managed. Or maybe because it is not economically viable. Whether it should be closed or not is a much larger question. Indeed it is- co

RE: [Mpls] smoking ban

2004-06-02 Thread Michael Atherton
Rick Norby wrote: > I do stay out of smoky bars whenever possible. I also love our local > music scene which is all too often restricted to smoky bars. Should I > just exclude myself from these places because of offensive and > unhealthy second hand smoke? Why don't you and some friends open

Re: [Mpls] smoking ban

2004-06-02 Thread Rick Norby
Jim, I do stay out of smoky bars whenever possible. I also love our local music scene which is all too often restricted to smoky bars. Should I just exclude myself from these places because of offensive and unhealthy second hand smoke? I also thought that the efforts to legalize hemp for agricu

[Mpls] FW: COHR: Gather signatures and get paid!

2004-06-02 Thread Jason Samuels
To join this list, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the command subscribe cohr Example: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: doesn't matter subscribe cohr *** Next canvass meeting: When: Sunday, June 6, 6-8pm Where: 3 E. 25th St. # 8,

Re: [Mpls] smoking ban

2004-06-02 Thread gemgram
I have been waiting for an appeal of my "ban" from the List, before continuing to post, but just could not resist Eddie Felien's post. I guess when you are addicted it truly is hard to resist temptation. Eddie should consider not putting his butt where someone is already swinging his or her foot.

[Mpls] MPS Superintendent Search Update

2004-06-02 Thread Melissa Winter
The Minneapolis Public Schools Board of Education continues to be on-track in their search for the next Superintendent. As they have moved through the process, the Board has valued the extensive input that the community provided this past winter about the qualities the community would like fina

Re: [Mpls] Disappointed with Doug Grow on Spike Moss

2004-06-02 Thread Pamela Taylor
I may be viewed strangely for asking the following questions, but I am going to ask it anyway. Spike Moss, I know you are an active community voice. My queries: How much of what you do publicly is out of your responsibility to your employer and its programs, as opposed to just being who y

Re: [Mpls] Re: Fantasy Group Needs New Members: Above the Falls Citizen Advisory Committee

2004-06-02 Thread Dyna Sluyter
On Wednesday, June 2, 2004, at 10:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I welcome interest and debate concerning the Above the Falls Master Plan. And debate is badly needed- the plan is clearly the work of an insular group of planners with no budget concerns whatsoever. The seat I was elected to is

RE: [Mpls] smoking ban

2004-06-02 Thread Michael Atherton
Ed Felien wrote: > Your freedom to swing your foot ends with my butt. Does this imply that my foot is resting on your butt? An unpleasant thought, but maybe an apt metaphor. Maybe you should move your butt out of range of my foot. > Your freedom to smoke ends with my being forced to > breathe

Re: [Mpls] Where is the light-rail vision?

2004-06-02 Thread John Harris
> Street, move existing ramps, and widen the freeway > from eight to ten lanes > from downtown to Crosstown/Hwy. 62. 35W is 6 lanes from 62 to 46th or so. Once it turns to 8 lanes, heading north for example, two lanes terminate downtown while two lanes continue through as 35W. So in reality, y

[Mpls] Re: Fantasy Group Needs New Members: Above the Falls Citizen Advisory Committee

2004-06-02 Thread Svattheriver
I welcome interest and debate concerning the Above the Falls Master Plan. Dyna Sluyter asks some important questions. My reply is not an official response from the Above the Falls Citizen Advisory Committee. I am speaking for myself as one member of a large committee. The seat I was elected

[Mpls] Tyranny in Minneapolis?

2004-06-02 Thread Gary Hoover
I appreciated Gail's comments (last name? neighborhood?) about the smoking ban issue. I am also conflicted about the notion of a smoking ban, because i cannot imagine Gandolf or the hobbits without pipe and pipeweed. I also hope to inject a little humour to defray the tension -- at least it does

[Mpls] smoking ban

2004-06-02 Thread Ed Felien
Your freedom to swing your foot ends with my butt. Your freedom to smoke ends with my being forced to breathe it in a public place. Ed Felien Powderhorn REMINDERS: 1. Think a member has violated the rules? Email the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't f

[Mpls] Where is the light-rail vision?

2004-06-02 Thread Sean Wherley
Minneapolis may not consider itself on par with the likes of Washington, D.C. but the city of lakes would be wise to learn from the example of our nation’s capital. During the Johnson Administration, metropolitan Washington, D.C. faced a critical decision about its traffic-clogged highways: wou