Peter writes, in part:
I agree that taxes are high and people are moving out of the
city, but the taxes follow property values (theoretically
anyway), the root of the problem is an out of control real estate
market.
Half of the annual property tax increases attributable to the city are to
Robert Goldman
But the suburbs, and even more the exurbs, are places where there is little
or no affordable housing, little or no public transit, and (to a somewhat
lesser extent) few resources to support people with severe chronic illnesses
(both physical and psychological). Poor people simply
Jeanne Massey:
I think you are correct in your points about the suburbs not having affordable
housing and other services that Minneapolis has, but is reducing, at the same
time that property taxes are going up. I am an architect and know a bit about
this issue too. The question I would pose
Seems like we've got two strands of outrage going on simultaneously:
taxpayers, particularly business owners, complaining about how much
city waste there is; and others complaining that the city is not doing
enough to get services to the poor. Maybe the fact that there's
outrage from both
Rick == Rick Mons [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem is that the suburbs and exurbs
are already dumping their social problems into the cities for us to
pay for.
Rick It's not clear to me how suburbs dump their social problems
Rick
Nick Frank wrote:
Rick Mons said:
This is the first I've read that the suburbs have social problems that
are
somehow transferred to the cities
I think this refers to the fact that most suburban
governments/constituents
won't allow social services and affordable housing to be located in
Used car salesmen are preferable to developers.
Imagine how much more just, pleasant, democratic, and affordable life in
the cities would be without them! Without them manipulating and diverting
council and park board members, misusing TIF and eminent domain and taxes.
Without their glossy songs
David wrote:
Used car salesmen are preferable to developers.
Dori:
At least with car salesmen, you expect them to create an aura that will sell
you the car and it becomes a game to the winner goes the spoils. With
politics of late...some elected have become such controlling factors, the
MN == Michael Hohmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
MN Dorothy J. TItus states, in part...
...And now Center Point Energy proposes a gas rate hike that
will raise residential gas costs by 4% while raising business costs
by only 1%. And this comes on top of gas prices that are
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem is that the suburbs and exurbs
are already dumping their social problems into the cities for us to
pay for.
It's not clear to me how suburbs dump their social problems into the
cities for (city taxpayers) to pay for. Can you provide some examples?
I
David Shove wrote:
Used car salesmen are preferable to developers.
WM: From your mouth to god's ears. One city assessor wants the car
dealers off Lake St. because there are developers ready to buy. And
there are. We, the people who live close to Lake St.--a mile each
direction--still buy our
gemgram wrote:
The City has the Sears building and opportunities for outside
development of the site.
WM: I sat in on the meetings with the Chicago Lake Design Review
Committee for years and every single developer who came along wanted
city money one way or another. It was made a TIF area as
Rick Mons said:
This is the first I've read that the suburbs have social problems that are
somehow transferred to the cities
I think this refers to the fact that most suburban governments/constituents
won't allow social services and affordable housing to be located in their
cities through the
The current attempt by the Taxcheater's League and their Republican
Lackies in the Legislature and the Governor's Mansion to take all
progressivity out of the property tax system is the latest in a long
history of broken promises. Remember 40 acres and a mule, treaties, and
the massive land
Face the facts: The Feds are awash in red ink. The state is awash in red
ink. Your City is awash in red ink. WHO SHOULD PAY FOR YOUR LAVISH
SPENDING? That's the question.
..and you're not alone:
http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/1203/p01s01-usec.html
Vicky Heller
That site was
I can't help but agree here about government getting into areas
where they have NO business being. Our esteemed MPRB commissioners,
HAUSER, FINE, DZIEDZIC , KUMMER and OLSON just voted on Wednesday to
spend our tax dollars to build a putt-putt golf course for $100,000
(their estimate,
Homeowners in Minneapolis pay much higher property taxes than they do in the
state of Virginia or anywhere else I've lived. The amount I pay on property
tax is the same I paid in Virginia on a house valued at twice as much.
Virginia income tax is capped at 5%, while Minnesota's is about 50%
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A huge issue here are the low income folks who have finally
managed to buy a
house and are being driven out because
Dorothy J. TItus wrote:
A huge issue here are the low income folks who have finally managed to
buy a house and are being driven out because their property taxes are
so high.
Minneapolis is driving residents out of the city. Who can afford
this? Certainly not those on the low end of the
That's how cities work, unfortunately.
Those of us with the last, I'd say, fewer than a dozen houses on Lake
St. between the river and the city line are experiencing the same kind
of tax-'em-out. We're trying to hold out, on my block, to maintain it's
mostly residential character. We have
Wizard Marks:
WM: Only the poor are being driven out of the city. The middle class
have rediscovered us. We've been sitting in these big, old, high
maintenance houses for long over 30 years because they were all we could
afford. We got little or nothing in the way of respectful services (snow
Vicki Heller said:
Homeowners should be paying MORE TAXES (a much larger share of the total
burden), which will bring in a lot more
money to solve the City's growing financial crisis. As pointed out by
other Listmembers, Minneapolis homeowners pay less
than HALF of those in Milwaukee. WHO
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