RE: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property

2004-12-08 Thread Michael Hohmann
Peter writes, in part: I agree that taxes are high and people are moving out of the city, but the taxes follow property values (theoretically anyway), the root of the problem is an out of control real estate market. Half of the annual property tax increases attributable to the city are to

RE: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property

2004-12-07 Thread Jeanne Massey
Robert Goldman But the suburbs, and even more the exurbs, are places where there is little or no affordable housing, little or no public transit, and (to a somewhat lesser extent) few resources to support people with severe chronic illnesses (both physical and psychological). Poor people simply

RE: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property

2004-12-07 Thread Peter Vevang
Jeanne Massey: I think you are correct in your points about the suburbs not having affordable housing and other services that Minneapolis has, but is reducing, at the same time that property taxes are going up. I am an architect and know a bit about this issue too. The question I would pose

Re: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property

2004-12-06 Thread Dorie Rae Gallagher
Seems like we've got two strands of outrage going on simultaneously: taxpayers, particularly business owners, complaining about how much city waste there is; and others complaining that the city is not doing enough to get services to the poor. Maybe the fact that there's outrage from both

Re: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property

2004-12-06 Thread rpgoldman
Rick == Rick Mons [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is that the suburbs and exurbs are already dumping their social problems into the cities for us to pay for. Rick It's not clear to me how suburbs dump their social problems Rick

RE: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property

2004-12-06 Thread Rick Mons
Nick Frank wrote: Rick Mons said: This is the first I've read that the suburbs have social problems that are somehow transferred to the cities I think this refers to the fact that most suburban governments/constituents won't allow social services and affordable housing to be located in

Re: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property must INCREASE

2004-12-05 Thread David Shove
Used car salesmen are preferable to developers. Imagine how much more just, pleasant, democratic, and affordable life in the cities would be without them! Without them manipulating and diverting council and park board members, misusing TIF and eminent domain and taxes. Without their glossy songs

Re: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property must INCREASE

2004-12-05 Thread Dorie Rae Gallagher
David wrote: Used car salesmen are preferable to developers. Dori: At least with car salesmen, you expect them to create an aura that will sell you the car and it becomes a game to the winner goes the spoils. With politics of late...some elected have become such controlling factors, the

RE: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property must INCREASE [Really CenterPoint price increase]

2004-12-05 Thread rpgoldman
MN == Michael Hohmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MN Dorothy J. TItus states, in part... ...And now Center Point Energy proposes a gas rate hike that will raise residential gas costs by 4% while raising business costs by only 1%. And this comes on top of gas prices that are

Re: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property

2004-12-05 Thread Rick Mons
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is that the suburbs and exurbs are already dumping their social problems into the cities for us to pay for. It's not clear to me how suburbs dump their social problems into the cities for (city taxpayers) to pay for. Can you provide some examples? I

Re: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property must INCREASE

2004-12-05 Thread WizardMarks
David Shove wrote: Used car salesmen are preferable to developers. WM: From your mouth to god's ears. One city assessor wants the car dealers off Lake St. because there are developers ready to buy. And there are. We, the people who live close to Lake St.--a mile each direction--still buy our

Re: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property

2004-12-05 Thread WizardMarks
gemgram wrote: The City has the Sears building and opportunities for outside development of the site. WM: I sat in on the meetings with the Chicago Lake Design Review Committee for years and every single developer who came along wanted city money one way or another. It was made a TIF area as

RE: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property

2004-12-05 Thread Nick Frank
Rick Mons said: This is the first I've read that the suburbs have social problems that are somehow transferred to the cities I think this refers to the fact that most suburban governments/constituents won't allow social services and affordable housing to be located in their cities through the

Re: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property must INCREASE

2004-12-05 Thread Dyna
The current attempt by the Taxcheater's League and their Republican Lackies in the Legislature and the Governor's Mansion to take all progressivity out of the property tax system is the latest in a long history of broken promises. Remember 40 acres and a mule, treaties, and the massive land

Re: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property.....

2004-12-04 Thread Dorie Rae Gallagher
Face the facts: The Feds are awash in red ink. The state is awash in red ink. Your City is awash in red ink. WHO SHOULD PAY FOR YOUR LAVISH SPENDING? That's the question. ..and you're not alone: http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/1203/p01s01-usec.html Vicky Heller That site was

Re: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property.....

2004-12-04 Thread Elizabeth Wielinski
I can't help but agree here about government getting into areas where they have NO business being. Our esteemed MPRB commissioners, HAUSER, FINE, DZIEDZIC , KUMMER and OLSON just voted on Wednesday to spend our tax dollars to build a putt-putt golf course for $100,000 (their estimate,

Re: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property must INCREASE

2004-12-04 Thread Dorothy J. TItus
Homeowners in Minneapolis pay much higher property taxes than they do in the state of Virginia or anywhere else I've lived. The amount I pay on property tax is the same I paid in Virginia on a house valued at twice as much. Virginia income tax is capped at 5%, while Minnesota's is about 50%

RE: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property must INCREASE

2004-12-04 Thread Michael Hohmann
PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dorothy J. TItus Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 11:33 AM To: Mpls Forum Subject: Re: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property must INCREASE snip A huge issue here are the low income folks who have finally managed to buy a house and are being driven out because

Re: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property must INCREASE

2004-12-04 Thread WizardMarks
Dorothy J. TItus wrote: A huge issue here are the low income folks who have finally managed to buy a house and are being driven out because their property taxes are so high. Minneapolis is driving residents out of the city. Who can afford this? Certainly not those on the low end of the

Re: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property must INCREASE

2004-12-04 Thread Dan
That's how cities work, unfortunately. Those of us with the last, I'd say, fewer than a dozen houses on Lake St. between the river and the city line are experiencing the same kind of tax-'em-out. We're trying to hold out, on my block, to maintain it's mostly residential character. We have

RE: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property must INCREASE

2004-12-04 Thread Gregory Luce
Wizard Marks: WM: Only the poor are being driven out of the city. The middle class have rediscovered us. We've been sitting in these big, old, high maintenance houses for long over 30 years because they were all we could afford. We got little or nothing in the way of respectful services (snow

RE: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property must INCREASE

2004-12-04 Thread Citizen Bob Velez
Vicki Heller said: Homeowners should be paying MORE TAXES (a much larger share of the total burden), which will bring in a lot more money to solve the City's growing financial crisis. As pointed out by other Listmembers, Minneapolis homeowners pay less than HALF of those in Milwaukee. WHO