Mark Wilde: It is just as likely that they are not gang related. How is it
possible to prove correlation between gang graffitti and shoes on the line and
anything else?
Ed Kohler: You could be right about the gang correlation. I'm just trying to
treat an easily treatable symptom that has a
Causation is not the same as correlation. Shoefiti and crime occur in
the same neighborhood. A study can show the correlation between one and
the other. There may be some unknown events or actions that are causing
either the shoes or the crime or both.
To know for certain what is causing
More progress on the shoefiti front. The Ace of Spades in the Deck of Most
Wanted Shoes (The pair hanging in the alley at 31st St E between 4th 5th
Aves since March 28th) is finally gone!
Thanks to those of you who've reported shoes. I've heard some great offline
success stories from other
On Aug 31, 2005, at 8:16 AM, Ed Kohler wrote:
More progress on the shoefiti front. The Ace of Spades in the Deck
of Most
Wanted Shoes (The pair hanging in the alley at 31st St E between
4th 5th
Aves since March 28th) is finally gone!
Completely anecdotal data here, but we had some
New News
8. Xcel has not responded to a customer service request from me asking how
they'd like to handle receive communications related to shoefiti.
9. A pair of shoes in Uptown has been reported. It will be an interesting
test case to see if they come down before shoes reported as far back as
The shoes over the wire are indeed drug-selling related. Don't take my word
for it, ask any beat cop, or officer that specializes in vice/narcotics.
I suspect that Excel probably treats shoefiti in the same manner it treats
squirrels, or tree limbs. They'll deal with it, only if it becomes a
I hate to contradict you all on this subject but throwing shoes up on the
power line, while it is a dangerous and stupid thing, really has nothing to do
with drugs. It dates far back. It use to be fun to see if you could through the
shoes high enough to make them land on the wire. It was a
I was wondering if anyone knows why there are three pairs of shoes hanging
from the powerlines in the alley between 29th Lake St / 16th 17th Ave S?
The map below shoes the shoe locations at both ends and in the middle of the
alley.
Thanks to Bruce Shoe-fiti-maker for bringing up another motivation for hanging
shoes: celebrations. The U of MN is one of many schools with celebratory shoe
hanging for graduating students. For example, the University of Wisconsin,
Green Bay had a Shoe Tree that was destroyed by a storm in
This is the biggest Urban Myth...Seems pretty stupid to devote so much time
and energy into shoefiti
David Brady
Downtown
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Here's an update on the Shoefiti scene:
One of my initial comments on this Shoefiti thread was about why it's so
much easier to get shoes taken down in Longfellow vs. other areas of the
city. That didn't receive any comments so far, but to me is one of the more
interesting things I've noticed. In
Ed Kohler wrote:
First reported 3/28/2005 (Central):
Alley between 4th and 5th Ave S North of 31st St
This alley is notorious for drug dealers, gang bangers, and hookers--not
to mention graffiti that the businesses try to keep up with, but can't
always. I'll alert the guys at Aftercare,
In response to Ed Kohler's post on trying to get Xcel to remove the shoes
hanging over power lines:
We have lots of those on the northside, too. My suggested solution is not
to take the shoes down but for all of us to visit the thrift stores, buy
pairs of shoes, tie the laces together and to
WizardMarks wrote: You're right, though, around here shoes on the wires are
a signal about where to look for drugs.
Ed Kohler: Those are the ones I'm after. As Mark Wilde pointed out, there is
little good information on why shoes end up on power lines. I don't know for
sure why they're there
A couple of years back when the Park Board dedicated a new totlot at
Clinton Field off 25th and Clinton Ave. So. there were probably 15-20
pairs of shoes across an electric wire. When I asked what that was all
about I was told it was a Latino sign for something and no one else seemed
to know
Hello List,
I just asked my daughter's friend (who is in his 20's) and he said that the
shoes signify that someone has died. He did not specify whether it was
connected to a gang thing or not. That's all I have on the subject so far.
Pamela Taylor
(Lyndale)
Annie Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We own and live at the property directly north of Clinton Field and
know exactly what Ms. Young has reported regarding shoes and power
lines. After a year of complaining to the MPRB about overgrown brush
on park property directly underneath this power line, a crew finally
cleared it out last fall.
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