Re: [Mpls] On the smoking ban from a bar-owner

2005-12-10 Thread Steve Nelson
Michael Atherton wrote I see, so since my father died of a heart attack, I have have the right to ban all fried foods eaten in public places? Not to mention most meat products. Point: People have a choice to smoke or not smoke and a choice of being exposed to secondhand smoke (except for

Re: [Mpls] On the smoking ban from a bar-owner

2005-12-09 Thread Bob Spaulding
So, would you prefer to have your friend or family member die of cancer, or have your local pub die because it relied on allowing cancer-causing drugs? Bars and restaurants have generally short lifespans, and often die quickly. My friends should not. Some bars and restaurants will go out

RE: [Mpls] On the smoking ban from a bar-owner

2005-12-09 Thread Michael Atherton
Bob Spaulding wrote: So, would you prefer to have your friend or family member die of cancer, or have your local pub die because it relied on allowing cancer-causing drugs? If you are so concerned about your friend or family member why don't you have them kidnapped and deprogrammed? Why

Re: [Mpls] On the smoking ban from a bar-owner

2005-12-09 Thread Bob Spaulding
Michael Atherton asked: Why force everyone else to met your needs? Right back at you, Michael. Why should many among us put up with the gut-level emotional disgust of losing friends and neighbors to cancer without helping head off the larger pressures? Why should employers put up with

Re: [Mpls] On the smoking ban from a bar-owner

2005-12-09 Thread wmmarks
Bob Spaulding wrote: Why should many among us put up with the gut-level emotional disgust of losing friends and neighbors to cancer without helping head off the larger pressures? Your gut level reaction to friends dying of cancer is disgust? Not pain cause they died? What if a friend dies

RE: [Mpls] On the smoking ban from a bar-owner

2005-12-09 Thread Michael Atherton
Bob Spaulding responded: Michael Atherton asked: Why force everyone else to met your needs? Right back at you, Michael. Sorry, but it's the ban augments that have the contradictions. Why should many among us put up with the gut-level emotional disgust of losing friends and

Re: [Mpls] On the smoking ban from a bar-owner

2005-12-09 Thread Dan McGrath
://www.smokeoutgary.org - Original Message - From: Sean Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mpls@mnforum.org Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 10:54 AM Subject: RE: [Mpls] On the smoking ban from a bar-owner Perhaps Ms. Jeffers problem is that she owns a dirty rundown bar in an area teeming with well-run

[Mpls] On the smoking ban from a bar-owner

2005-12-08 Thread Dan McGrath
Here's a letter to the editor penned by Sue Jeffers, owner of Stub and Herb's in SE Mpls. Hey Dan, Here is my letter to the editor, doubt it will see the light of day...post it with your excellent one on the forum! Sue Some call it spin, I call it just another lie to deceive the general