On 13.11.2013, at 12:54, Vadim Zavalishin
wrote:
> So, after we have modelled them all, we are not gonna need any further
> modelling.
;-)
At that time,we should offer real-time spice to let our dear customers tinker
with their virtual circuits. We’ll offer in-app purchases like “bumble bee
On 13-Nov-13 11:56, Marco Lo Monaco wrote:
I personally don’t think that automatic systems (DK) will be the
panacea of nonlinear modeling (even if everybody here is dreaming of
a realtime spice). Very often only a human can see patterns in
circuits and find shortcuts to simplify things.
+1
Bes
Andy,
FYI besides the KMethod, DePoli/Borin/Sarti et alias always in the 1990s also
formulated the W-method which was the dual of KMethod but using the wave
digital filter theory by Fettweis.
AFAIK is not so easily used because of the increased complexity of
nonlinearities adaptors involved (yo
On 11/11/2013 12:21 PM, robert bristow-johnson wrote:
but you cannot define your current output sample in terms of the
current output sample.
But that, with all due respect, is what has been done for quite a while.
it's been reported or *reputed* to be done for quite a while.
but when the smo
Hi Ezra,
A few comments:
On 11/11/2013 3:19 PM, Ezra Buchla wrote:
there seems to be some concern about distortion introduced by the
trapezoidal integration. i've tried the algo in both fixed 32 ands
float, and it seems to sound and look ok to but i have not done a
proper analysis either numeri
i hope it's ok if i sum up the main themes here with background links,
as i understand it. the thread is just such a mess...
here is the state variable filter from hal chamberlin 1985 or so:
http://t.co/SVJp7iAgqb
pierre dutilleux wrote up a nice discretized and tuned version in dafx 1998:
http:/
On 11/10/13 5:12 PM, Urs Heckmann wrote:
On 11.11.2013, at 01:33, robert bristow-johnson
wrote:
but you cannot define your current output sample in terms of the current output
sample.
But that, with all due respect, is what has been done for quite a while.
it's been reported or *reputed*
On 11.11.2013, at 01:33, robert bristow-johnson
wrote:
> but you cannot define your current output sample in terms of the current
> output sample.
But that, with all due respect, is what has been done for quite a while. It
isn't the major ingredient of great sound, but it arguably has its pe
On 11/9/13 6:52 PM, Andrew Simper wrote:
Marco writes:
Well, of course the s = (T/2)(z-1)/(z+1) conversion comes from discretizing
a differential equation.
but remember, that's not the only way to convert s to z. that's the
bilinear way to do it.
...
What I would say more about this m
Urs, I don't know if you're referring to music-dsp here, but this list
is specifically not meant to be in the academic realm, but rather a
place where people of all sorts with an interest in music and digital
signal processing can chat. So I encourage you to share your results here!
I'm sorr
The good thing is, a mathtard like me can implement it ;-) We've based a lot of
our work on Vadim's and Andy's examples. These are a just so much easier to
comprehend for auteurs than the chiffres typically used in academic papers.
The irony in preserving-the-topology is, one can create stunning
Yes, I was thinking along the lines of: Circuit schematic -> nodal analysis ->
LLVM IL -> highly optimized DSP code :) (a bit like faust)
/Rob
Richard Dobson skrev 2013-11-10 13:41:
So given all this, what are the prospects for a new Toolkit which those not
blessed with the inner inner knowle
So given all this, what are the prospects for a new Toolkit which those
not blessed with the inner inner knowledge can just plug into our new
Uber-Synths (or Csound)?
(the music-dsp archive seems not to have received anything new since
2010...)
Richard Dobson
--
dupswapdrop -- the music-d
On 10 November 2013 18:43, Marco Lo Monaco wrote:
> if you look at Yeh's work you can have an idea. The (D)KMethod is a
> generalization/extension of the state space ABCD approach to analog systems.
> Vadim's and Andrew are basically the same thing and the inversion is hidden
> in the calculation
Hi Andrew/Dominque,
The DK-Method is a systematic way to implement on automatic systems the much
more breathru approach called KMethod, who was (how fun) discovered by my
professor in the late 1990s.
I cant either tell the all the story (it would require a lot of time because
it's a well defined an
On 9 November 2013 22:21, Marco Lo Monaco wrote:
Hi Marco,
First up I want to thank you for your considered and useful
observations Marco, I appreciate where you are coming from and how you
can clearly communicate your ideas. This makes it possible for me to
reply to your points and offer observ
Hi Andrew,
>>I think it's useful for everyone, and especially those wanting to handle
non-linearities or other music behaviour.
Yes, but people who are working in this field and doing virtual analog have
known these tricks for at least 10 years ago. :)
> Being in the linear modeling field, I wou
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