Re: Pager problems in 1.3.27 - libiconv/1.3.28
On Mon, 04 Mar 2002, 16:09, Raymond A. Meijer wrote: Update... If I run mutt version 1.3.27, I get a blank screen when I view a message in the pager. The top and bottom lines are there, but the message headers and body are not visible. Still the same problem, now with 1.3.28. I've downloaded, compiled and installed GNU iconv without problems, but then the mutt configure script stops near the end: [...] checking for iconv... yes checking for iconv declaration... extern size_t iconv (iconv_t cd, char * *inbuf, size_t *inbytesleft, char * *outbuf, size_t *outbytesleft); checking for nl_langinfo and CODESET... yes checking for LC_MESSAGES... yes checking whether NLS is requested... yes checking whether included gettext is requested... no checking for libintl.h... yes checking for GNU gettext in libc... yes checking for dcgettext... yes checking for msgfmt... /usr/bin/msgfmt checking for gmsgfmt... /usr/bin/msgfmt checking for xgettext... /usr/bin/xgettext checking for bison... bison checking version of bison... 1.32, ok checking for catalogs to be installed... de ru it es uk fr pl nl cs id sk ko el zh_TW zh_CN pt_BR eo gl sv da lt tr ja hu et ca checking whether this iconv is good enough... no configure: error: Try using libiconv instead Where can I find a (lib)iconv that is good enough? :) Thanks, Ray --
imap and imaps in one muttrc doesn't work
Isn't it possible to configure imap and imaps accounts in one configfile! I tried this but mutt always says SSL not available, that's OK for me, I don't want SSL for that host. Thanks for any hint, Manuel -- Theology is never any help; it is searching in a dark cellar at midnight for a black cat that isn't there. Theologians can persuade themselves of anything. -Robert A. Heinlein
Re: Mutt 1.3.28 + ncurses 5.2 + xterm = blank screen
On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 09:46:08PM -0600, Jeremy Blosser wrote: $COLORFGBG is marked as an experimental feature. I've gotten 2-3 reports of this particular problem - but only months after I stumbled on it myself. Apparently one or more of the rpm's last year turned that feature on, though it was in the code almost a year. Well, I think it was more the other bug where it would get turned on if other development features like hard-tabs were turned on. It was apparently a combination of these two. I suppose so - though both features are in the same category (not part of the default options): Development Code: --with-develop enable all development options --enable-colorfgbg compile with $COLORFGBG code --enable-hard-tabs compile with hard-tabs code --disable-root-environ limit environment when running as root --enable-xmc-glitch compile with limited support for xmc (noting now that colorfgbg is development rather than experimental, I guess my reasoning at the time was that it was a small feature that wouldn't break much ;-). -- Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
Re: change from header
Eduardo -- ...and then Eduardo Gargiulo said... % % another question: is it possible that if i run mutt with -f option, the % folder-hooks don't work? Theoretically anything is possible :-) Practically, though, folder-hooks work just fine with -f; I do that all the time (in fact, I almost never 'c'hange folders but instead just start a new screen window). % % ~ejg HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25760/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: imap and imaps in one muttrc doesn't work
Hi, Manuel Hendel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: Isn't it possible to configure imap and imaps accounts in one configfile! I tried this but mutt always says SSL not available, that's OK for me, I don't want SSL for that host. could you give an example of what you're trying to achieve? Michael -- I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody. It doesn't generate revenue. (Dave '-ddt-` Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux) PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key
Re: imap and imaps in one muttrc doesn't work
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 02:31:21PM +0100, Michael Tatge wrote: could you give an example of what you're trying to achieve? I got more than one imap account at more than one impa server. Two of the servers are using imaps for security reasons and one doesn't. If I only use the imap account, everything works fine, until I add one of the imaps accounts. It seams that mutt can't do both from one running mutt session. Manuel -- Humor distorts nothing, and only false gods are laughed off their earthly pedestals. -Agnes Repplier, Points of View
Message ID availability
Hi all! It is possible to print the Message-ID when composing a message? In other words, is the Message-ID available at the time of composing or does it get generated after? Thanks! Cheers, -- David Collantes - http://www.bus.ucf.edu/david/ College of Business Administration, University of Central Florida Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding. smime.p7s Description: application/pkcs7-signature
Re: imap and imaps in one muttrc doesn't work
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 03:15:27PM +0100, Manuel Hendel wrote: On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 02:31:21PM +0100, Michael Tatge wrote: could you give an example of what you're trying to achieve? I got more than one imap account at more than one impa server. Two of the servers are using imaps for security reasons and one doesn't. If I only use the imap account, everything works fine, until I add one of the imaps accounts. It seams that mutt can't do both from one running mutt session. I ususally use: imaps://imap.web.de or imap://haupo:muell@localhost so where is the problem? -- Ralf Hildebrandt (Im Auftrag des Referat V A) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charite Campus Virchow-Klinikum Tel. +49 (0)30-450 570-155 Referat V A - Kommunikationsnetze - Fax. +49 (0)30-450 570-916 Yea, tho I walk thru the valley of the shadow of clues, I shall fear no luser, for Thou lart with me, Thy chicken and Thy manual, they comfort me.
Mutt or MTA issue?
I have multiple addressed handled with Mutt but when I send a messege with any of them an extra header with from: username@mydomain is added it doesn't matter if already exists one with any of the email addresses. Where should I start checking? Bye!
Re: change from header
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 06:37:45AM -0500, David T-G wrote: Eduardo -- ...and then Eduardo Gargiulo said... % % another question: is it possible that if i run mutt with -f option, the % folder-hooks don't work? Theoretically anything is possible :-) Practically, though, folder-hooks work just fine with -f; I do that all the time (in fact, I almost never 'c'hange folders but instead just start a new screen window). I'm running 1.2.5. I find that whether folder-hooks work with -f depends on how the file name is given on the command line. For example, folder-hooks work for these: mutt -f =Incoming/mutt-users mutt -f ~/Mail/Incoming/mutt-users but not for this: mutt -f Mail/Incoming/mutt-users Gary -- Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Spokane, Washington, USA http://www.spocom.com/users/gjohnson/mutt/ |
Re: threading question - sample mailbox?
* Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-19 21:27]: any idea why the subject is sometimes duplicated in threaded displays? it seems to happen mainly when the parent is missing; ie: 82 DL Mar 18 Ralf Hildebrandt (1.0K) --Re: SMTP dialog log 83 N L Mar 19 Bernd Matthes (1.0K) `-Re: SMTP dialog log why wouldn't 82 and 83 look like: 82 DL Mar 18 Ralf Hildebrandt (1.0K) --Re: SMTP dialog log 83 N L Mar 19 Bernd Matthes (1.0K) `- is it because the parent might have a different subject? that's most probably the case. mutt is instructed to show the subject when it has changed from the previous message. now, if a message has two followups with a new subject which happen to be the same then mutt will show both - even though they are the same. i can't seem to get consistent behavior one way or another, so i think i'm probably guessing wrong as to the reason for this (because if i delete a parent message, the two children give the behavior in my second example... what i'd imagine to be the correct behavior). hmm.. can you type up a sample mailbox which shows this? You might attach this mailbox and then we can take a look at it with mutt -f filename etc. Sven
Re: Message ID availability
David -- ...and then David Collantes said... % % Hi all! Hello! % % It is possible to print the Message-ID when composing a message? In other % words, is the Message-ID available at the time of composing or does it get % generated after? Thanks! AFAIK it's generated after, and I've never seen it before sending. You *might* be able to generate one with a my_hdr but you should ensure that it's unique 'cuz that's part of the definition of the field. % % Cheers, HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25768/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: change from header
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 06:32:04AM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote: I'm running 1.2.5. I find that whether folder-hooks work with -f depends on how the file name is given on the command line. For example, folder-hooks work for these: mutt -f =Incoming/mutt-users mutt -f ~/Mail/Incoming/mutt-users but not for this: mutt -f Mail/Incoming/mutt-users i was using the last. thanks ~ejg msg25769/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mutt lies about PGP/GPG signature verification result
On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 08:12:51PM +, Dave Ewart muttered: On Tuesday, 19.03.2002 at 21:00 +0100, Michal Kochanowicz wrote: On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 06:52:50AM -0500, R Signes wrote: Define it. set pgp_good_sign=Good signature I did it. And this solves problem with encrypted signed messages. But it still complains that it could not verify signature in messages which were _encrypted_ony_. Well, obviously it _couldn't_ verify the signature - there is no signature to verify?!? Ah, well. Perhaps three possible messages to the user are in order. Couldn't find a signature. Found a signature, and it is valid. Found a signature, and it is invalid. If there is no signature, then it cannot be valid, and it cannot be invalid, so let's not confuse the issue (or the user) by saying it is one or the other. -- Charles Curley /\ASCII Ribbon Campaign Looking for fine software \ /Respect for open standards and/or web pages?X No HTML/RTF in email http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley / \No M$ Word docs in email msg25770/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: imap and imaps in one muttrc doesn't work
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 03:27:04PM +0100, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 03:15:27PM +0100, Manuel Hendel wrote: I ususally use: imaps://imap.web.de or imap://haupo:muell@localhost so where is the problem? Actually, I do the same. The only difference is, that it is the other way round in my muttrc: imap://haupo:muell@localhost or imaps://imap.web.de The problem is, that imap://haupo:muell@localhost is not working anymore and mutt brings an error messageSSL not available. manuel -- History is the version of past events that people have decided to agree upon. -Napoleon Bonaparte
Re: imap and imaps in one muttrc doesn't work
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 04:41:29PM +0100, Manuel Hendel wrote: Actually, I do the same. The only difference is, that it is the other way round in my muttrc: imap://haupo:muell@localhost or imaps://imap.web.de The problem is, that imap://haupo:muell@localhost is not working anymore and mutt brings an error messageSSL not available. I see. I have a similar problem: I have multiple mailboxes on localhost: imap://haupo:muell@localhost imap://virusal:muell@localhost imap://m-daemon:muell@localhost I can only open ONE, if I try to open the second (using c and typing the mailbox URL), I get errors (cannot read which, they disappear too fast) and the message mailbox closed. Then I have to use: imaps://m-daemon:muell@localhost instead of imap://m-daemon:muell@localhost to get access 8or I have to exit mutt) -- Ralf Hildebrandt (Im Auftrag des Referat V A) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charite Campus Virchow-Klinikum Tel. +49 (0)30-450 570-155 Referat V A - Kommunikationsnetze - Fax. +49 (0)30-450 570-916 ThisemailhasbeenbroughttoyoubyJOLTCola,favoredbyssysadmins,netadminsand programmerseverywhere. JOLTCola--forallthesugarandtwicethecaffine(R).
Re: threading question - sample mailbox?
On 020320, at 15:32:27, Sven Guckes wrote hmm.. can you type up a sample mailbox which shows this? You might attach this mailbox and then we can take a look at it with mutt -f filename etc. I also see this. Here's an example from this list. -- David Ellement From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Feb 21 20:23:55 2002 Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 20:23:40 -0800 From: Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: S/MIME Howto Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.0i Organization: New Dream Network Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk Status: RO Content-Length: 629 Lines: 23 David Collantes wrote: Does anyone knows where could I find a s/mime howto? I just got 1.5.0i and I want to try the s/mime support, but nothing comes with it to set it up. check smime.rc in contrib/, check this site: http://www.kfu.com/~nsayer/encryption/openssl.html How to create my certificate/key? How can I make it(them) 'legal' for the top CA? Any help highly appreciated. you need to get one - thawte has free ones, or you can buy one from verisign. also check out smime_keys.pl which you can use to setup most stuff for you. -- William Yardley GnuPG public key: http://infinitejazz.net/will/pgp/gpg.asc From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 22 07:46:06 2002 Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 10:45:51 -0500 From: Mike Schiraldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: S/MIME Howto Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol=application/pgp-signature; boundary=WfZ7S8PLGjBY9Voh Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.0i X-Last-Reboot: February 15, 2002 (6 days ago) Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk Status: RO Content-Length: 950 Lines: 34 --WfZ7S8PLGjBY9Voh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone knows where could I find a s/mime howto? I just got 1.5.0i and I want to try the s/mime support, but nothing comes with it to set it up. How to create my certificate/key? How can I make it(them) 'legal' for the top CA? Any help highly appreciated. See doc/smime-notes.txt and contrib/smime.rc. If you have any difficulty at all or suggestions for improving either of those files, please let me know. --=20 Mike Schiraldi VeriSign Applied Research --WfZ7S8PLGjBY9Voh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8dmevJtAqU4k317YRAkKeAKCGtOIVtWiNBU0F81v+UmhJ5lZoaACfaXGc Xw2DHwryXXoEyRLGaU8KBY8= =Lbuv -END PGP SIGNATURE- --WfZ7S8PLGjBY9Voh-- From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 22 14:55:47 2002 Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 17:33:04 -0500 To: Mike Schiraldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: S/MIME Howto Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.0i X-Uptime: 67 days X-GPG-Key: http://www.bus.ucf.edu/david/files/keys.asc X-URL: http://www.bus.ucf.edu/david/ X-Attachments: Attachments (if any) are safe to open. X-Composer: GNU nano 1.0.1 X-Priority: 3 Keywords: Friday Organization: College of Business Administration From: David Collantes [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Id: Mutt Users Reply-To: David Collantes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.47+ (Python 2.2 on linux2) X-TMDA-Fingerprint: VClmtHSmxFQjRkMrsDi1DgHqdxI Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precedence: bulk Status: RO Content-Length: 1617 Lines: 51 On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 10:45:51AM -0500, Mike Schiraldi wrote: Does anyone knows where could I find a s/mime howto? I just got 1.5.0i and I want to try the s/mime support, but nothing comes with it to set it up. How to create my certificate/key? How can I make it(them) 'legal' for the top CA? Any help highly appreciated. See doc/smime-notes.txt and contrib/smime.rc. If you have any difficulty at all or suggestions for improving either of those files, please let me know. Mike, I have sucessfully setup smime using THAWTE free and VErisign ($14.95) certificates. The problem is different now. I can sign and encrypt messages fine, but only Mutt is able to decrypt. If I open the messages with Outlook, I can see and verify the signed one's fine, but the encrypted ones shows: ,--- | |Error Decrypting Message |You cannot read the message. | | | |This might be because: | |You may have lost or deleted the Digital ID that
Re: account-hook
On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 12:43:59AM +0100, Johan Ekh wrote: Hello! Hi Mutt gives me the following error account-hook: unknown command. Your Mutt version don't has this function :( Any ideas? I use SuSE7.2 and my Mutt installation is the standard rpm that comes with the distribution. Try to use fetchmail + procmail + mutt... If you want to use G command, you can configure this in .muttrc: # macros macro index G !fetchmailenter macro pager G !fetchmailenter !!! (I don't speak english and I don't find a word to say good bye :) -- i8u - MichelTS - Curitiba/PR - Brasil
Re: Quoting HTML mail in reply - argh!
* Daniel J Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-19 22:24]: Is there any way to have mutt automatically quote HTML mail when I reply to it? We could tell you - but then we'd have to kill you. ;-) now, I don't mind the *text* getting quoted. hint: doc/manual.txt 5.4. MIME Autoview User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i upgrade! Sven
disabling save-to-username default
I'm trying to write a simple shortcut to save tagged messages to a specific file. It looks like this: macro index S ;s righthere.mbox Save to this here mailbox and doesn't work, because mutt prepends the selected message's author's username to the save path. I'd appreciate suggestions for overriding this username default for the macro, or disabling it altogether. Thanks. -nat
Converting mbox to Maildir
Are any tools or guidance available for converting mailboxes from mbox to Maildir?
Re: disabling save-to-username default
begin quoting what David T-G said on Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:39:23PM -0500: HTH HAND and none of this is tested :-) Acronymize that last one. :-) msg25779/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Converting mbox to Maildir
Tyrin, * Tyrin R. Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-Mar-20 08:38 AKST]: Are any tools or guidance available for converting mailboxes from mbox to Maildir? Use mutt. Tag all the mbox messages (T.*), tag-save (;s=new_maildir) to the maildir mailbox. I think you need to create the maildir directory first, with the requisite tmp/ cur/ and new/ directories underneath. Chris -- Christopher S. Swingley phone: 907-474-2689 Computer Systems Manager email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IARC -- Frontier Program GPG and PGP keys at my web page: University of Alaska Fairbankswww.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu/~cswingle
Re: Converting mbox to Maildir
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 09:38:42AM -0800, Tyrin R. Price wrote: Are any tools or guidance available for converting mailboxes from mbox to Maildir? Mutt will do. 1. Create a maildir. 2. Open the mbox in mutt. 3. Tag all, save to Maildir. or if you want to batch it; http://www.qmail.org/mbox2maildir /magnus -- Words of the week: gao (tall) ai (short) http://x42.com/i/cn/pct/gao-ai.jpg
Re: disabling save-to-username default
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:39:23PM -0500, David T-G wrote: Nathaniel -- ...and then Nathaniel Irons said... % % I'm trying to write a simple shortcut to save tagged messages to a % specific file. It looks like this: % % macro index S ;s righthere.mbox Save to this here mailbox % % and doesn't work, because mutt prepends the selected message's % author's username to the save path. I'd appreciate suggestions for % overriding this username default for the macro, or disabling it % altogether. You could either turn off $save_name, but have to remember to turn it back on, but have to figure out whether or not it was really on before in case it wasn't and you shouldn't, or you could just clear the line in your macro. I believe if you insert a ctrl-u before specifying the mailbox name you'll get what you want. Or you can just eliminate the space in your macro. Either of these will work: macro index S ;srighthere.mbox Save to this here mailbox macro index S ;save-messagerighthere.mbox Save to this here mailbox I don't know why the space does that, but it's nice to know that it does. I'll be using that feature a lot from now on. I had been appending to the suggested mailbox name by first backspacing over the last character, then replacing it. Gary -- Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Spokane, Washington, USA http://www.spocom.com/users/gjohnson/mutt/ |
Re: Converting mbox to Maildir
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 09:38:42AM -0800, Tyrin R. Price wrote: Are any tools or guidance available for converting mailboxes from mbox to Maildir? Can someone describe the mbox and Maildir formats for me? Is mbox the same as Unix format? -- John
Re: disabling save-to-username default
Shawn -- ...and then Shawn McMahon said... % % begin quoting what David T-G said on Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:39:23PM -0500: % % HTH HAND and none of this is tested :-) % % Acronymize that last one. :-) Ha! NOTIT for you! :-) :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25784/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Converting mbox to Maildir
Chris -- ...and then Christopher Swingley said... % % * Tyrin R. Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-Mar-20 08:38 AKST]: ... % from mbox to Maildir? % % Use mutt. Tag all the mbox messages (T.*), tag-save (;s=new_maildir) Always good to use what's handy :-) % to the maildir mailbox. I think you need to create the maildir % directory first, with the requisite tmp/ cur/ and new/ directories % underneath. If you set mbox_type to maildir then when it creates a new box it will do it all for you; no need to create the dir and subdirs on your own (that works because mutt can then autodetect the format of the mailbox, even empty, and fill it). % % Chris % -- % Christopher S. Swingley phone: 907-474-2689 % Computer Systems Manager email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] % IARC -- Frontier Program GPG and PGP keys at my web page: % University of Alaska Fairbankswww.frontier.iarc.uaf.edu/~cswingle :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25785/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: disabling save-to-username default
Gary, et al -- ...and then Gary Johnson said... % % On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:39:23PM -0500, David T-G wrote: % % ...and then Nathaniel Irons said... % % % % macro index S ;s righthere.mbox Save to this here mailbox ... % % overriding this username default for the macro, or disabling it ... % your macro. I believe if you insert a ctrl-u before specifying the % mailbox name you'll get what you want. % % Or you can just eliminate the space in your macro. Either of these will % work: % % macro index S ;srighthere.mbox Save to this here mailbox % macro index S ;save-messagerighthere.mbox Save to this here mailbox Hey, cool! I didn't even notice that the first time :-) % % I don't know why the space does that, but it's nice to know that it I'm sure it's documented somewhere, and it makes sense since *NIX doesn't usually have spaces in filenames and requires escaping to make them work nicely. Thanks for noticing! :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25786/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Converting mbox to Maildir
John -- ...and then John Poltorak said... % % On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 09:38:42AM -0800, Tyrin R. Price wrote: % Are any tools or guidance available for converting mailboxes % from mbox to Maildir? % % Can someone describe the mbox and Maildir formats for me? Yes. *wink* % % Is mbox the same as Unix format? Yes, mbox is the same mailbox format that you know from years and years ago. Each message is delimited by ^From_ (a newline, From, and a space) and so matching patterns in the message body are escaped by prepending a ''. Maildir is a qmail invention (AFAIK) and does not have locking issues because each message is in its own file named in a unique way. There's more at qmail.org and/or cr.yp.to if you're interested (before anyone else pipes up here). There are also MMDF and MH folders, and they are of the one-file-per variety but don't have the tmp, new, and cur subdirs of Maildir. % % -- % John HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25787/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: disabling save-to-username default
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 09:55:43AM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote: On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:39:23PM -0500, David T-G wrote: You could either turn off $save_name, but have to remember to turn it back on, but have to figure out whether or not it was really on before in case it wasn't and you shouldn't $save_name refers to copies of outgoing messages, correct? (Otherwise the documentation is wrong). Or you can just eliminate the space in your macro. Either of these will work: Hey, good tip. I never would have thought that would parse. Thanks. -nat
Re: Binding both complete and complete-query to tab key
* Tres Hofmeister [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-20 08:04]: I'm wondering if there's a way to bind complete and complete-query to the same key, rather than two keys as shown in the manual: you cannot bind two commands to one key. period. (which command should mutt execute then? exactly.) I'd like to hit the tab key, and see first my aliases matching my string, and the results of an external query to an LDAP server. this is not configurable. so - write a patch. It would also be O.K. to see the external query results only if there was no alias match. if the query returns nothing then it is ok to see all of it. huh? Sven
Re: Converting mbox to Maildir
begin quoting what David T-G said on Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 01:08:56PM -0500: % Is mbox the same as Unix format? Yes, mbox is the same mailbox format that you know from years and years ago. Each message is delimited by ^From_ (a newline, From, and a Well, technically, I don't think UNIX has a mail format. UNIX doesn't do mail. *SENDMAIL* has a mail format, and it's mbox. Other common UNIX utilities recognize this format, but UNIX itself doesn't do mail. BYKT. :-) msg25790/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: save_name is for outbound mails
* Nathaniel Irons [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-20 18:20]: On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 09:55:43AM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote: On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:39:23PM -0500, David T-G wrote: You could either turn off $save_name, but have to remember to turn it back on, but have to figure out whether or not it was really on before in case it wasn't and you shouldn't $save_name refers to copies of outgoing messages, correct? correct. incoming mails is not handled by mutt automatically. this is a job for the mail delivery agents and mail filters. Sven
Re: threading question - sample mailbox?
Sven Guckes wrote: hmm.. can you type up a sample mailbox which shows this? You might attach this mailbox and then we can take a look at it with mutt -f filename etc. well i'm using Maildir, so that would be a bit difficult. here's a better example though (from an earlier off list message). [replying off list since you did; feel free to forward to anywhere relevant] * On 2002.03.19, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: guessing wrong as to the reason for this (because if i delete a parent message, the two children give the behavior in my second example... what i'd imagine to be the correct behavior). Hmm .. what if you delete the parent, exit, and look again in a new process? well, the behavior seems inconsistent. if i do: 107 N L Mar 19 Jack Sasportas (1.1K) OT Anti-Spam ? 108 N L Mar 19 Ralf Hildebrandt (1.4K) |- 109 N L Mar 19 Marco d'Itri (0.4K) |- 110 N L Mar 19 Marco d'Itri (0.3K) `* 111 N L Mar 19 George Pajari (0.6K) `- and delete the parent, first child, and then sync, i get: 107 L Mar 19 Marco d'Itri (0.4K) Re: OT Anti-Spam ? 108 N L Mar 19 Marco d'Itri (0.3K) `* 109 N L Mar 19 George Pajari (0.6K) `- if i re-enter the folder, i get the same thing. same if i leave the parent, but delete two messages in the middle of a thread; ie: 89 N L Mar 19 Chris Evans(0.6K) letting in mail from postmaster@ and abuse@ from blocked I 90 N L Mar 19 Ralf Hildebrandt (0.8K) `- 91 N L Mar 19 Chris Evans(1.1K) `- 92 N L Mar 19 Ralf Hildebrandt (1.5K) `- 89 N L Mar 19 Chris Evans(0.6K) letting in mail from postmaster@ and abuse@ from blocked I 90 L Mar 19 Chris Evans(1.1K) `- so i can't figure out why the subject is sometimes there multiple times; when i try to reproduce it, it seems to behave as i'd expect it would. -- Will Yardley input: william @ hq . newdream . net .
Re: disabling save-to-username default
Nat -- ...and then Nathaniel Irons said... % % On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 09:55:43AM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote: % On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:39:23PM -0500, David T-G wrote: % % You could either turn off $save_name, but have to remember to turn it % back on, but have to figure out whether or not it was really on before in % case it wasn't and you shouldn't % % $save_name refers to copies of outgoing messages, correct? (Otherwise % the documentation is wrong). Hmmm... Yes, it does, and the doc isn't wrong, but I was thinking that it would also direct mutt to save a message there instead of in $record. I haven't tried it, though, so I can't say for sure. Perhaps mbox-hook would be a better way to approach it -- if, of course, Gary hadn't helped us out! HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25793/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Binding both complete and complete-query to tab key
begin quoting what Sven Guckes said on Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 07:21:23PM +0100: you cannot bind two commands to one key. period. (which command should mutt execute then? exactly.) The first one bound, followed by the second one? msg25794/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Converting mbox to Maildir
Quoting Christopher Swingley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Use mutt. Tag all the mbox messages (T.*), tag-save (;s=new_maildir) to the maildir mailbox. I think you need to create the maildir directory first, with the requisite tmp/ cur/ and new/ directories underneath. Thanks, Chris. I am using exim, fetchmail (running a global rc file in daemon mode), and procmail. From what I've read online I can remove the trailing : (for file locking) and just add a / to the destination in my procmail recipe to deliver mail in Maildir format. Is this correct? So I just use your tip above, change my muttrc to use Maildir type mailboxes, change my procmail recipes and I should be good to go, right? Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:29:39 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting Christopher Swingley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Use mutt. Tag all the mbox messages (T.*), tag-save (;s=new_maildir) to the maildir mailbox. I think you need to create the maildir directory first, with the requisite tmp/ cur/ and new/ directories underneath. Thanks, Chris. I am using exim, fetchmail (running a global rc file in daemon mode), and procmail. From what I've read online I can remove the trailing : (for file locking) and just add a / to the destination in my procmail recipe to deliver mail in Maildir format. Is this correct? So I just use your tip above, change my muttrc to use Maildir type mailboxes, change my procmail recipes and I should be good to go, right?
Re: save_name is for outbound mails
Sven -- ...and then Sven Guckes said... % % * Nathaniel Irons [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-20 18:20]: % On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 09:55:43AM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote: % On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:39:23PM -0500, David T-G wrote: %You could either turn off $save_name, but have to remember ... % $save_name refers to copies of outgoing messages, correct? % % correct. incoming mails is not handled by mutt automatically. % this is a job for the mail delivery agents and mail filters. What does this thread have to do with incoming mail and, therefore, filters? % % Sven :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg!
Re: Converting mbox to Maildir
On 03-20-2002 at 13:02 EST, Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *SENDMAIL* has a mail format, and it's mbox. Other common UNIX utilities recognize this format, but UNIX itself doesn't do mail. Local Delivery Agent handles that. Sendmail does not have a mail format. I run Sendmail and use Maildir (compliments of Procmail). Cheers, -- David Collantes - http://www.bus.ucf.edu/david/ College of Business Administration, University of Central Florida Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. smime.p7s Description: application/pkcs7-signature
Re: Converting mbox to Maildir
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 01:21:08PM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote: begin quoting what David T-G said on Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 01:08:56PM -0500: % Is mbox the same as Unix format? Yes, mbox is the same mailbox format that you know from years and years ago. Each message is delimited by ^From_ (a newline, From, and a Well, technically, I don't think UNIX has a mail format. UNIX doesn't do mail. *SENDMAIL* has a mail format, and it's mbox. Other common UNIX utilities recognize this format, but UNIX itself doesn't do mail. well, if you want to be pickey, sendmail doesn't deal with mailboxes either. the MDA does, though which defined the format for the mbox, I'm not sure. I would believe it's a unix standard, part of the unix operating system, but can't back that up with facts. the mbox manpage does mention this, under history: The mbox format occured in Version 6 ATT Unix. A variant of this format was documented in RFC 976. :) -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg25798/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Forward an email with attachements
The one that worked best for me was set mime_forward=ask-no Then it asks if you want to forward as mime or not I think there's an ask-yes too. On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 08:58:25AM -0500, Jinchao Xu wrote: I would appreciate any hint on how to forward a whole message including all attachements. Using f within mutt seems to ignore the attachments. Thanks. Jinchao -- James Hamilton | Take heed: Perl, like most powerful languages, allows Southwest Cyberport | you to nuke your filesystem without breaking a sweat. 505-232-7992| --David N. Blank-Edelman
Re: Converting mbox to Maildir
At 13:08 -0500 20 Mar 2002, David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are also MMDF and MH folders, and they are of the one-file-per variety but don't have the tmp, new, and cur subdirs of Maildir. True for MH, but not MMDF. MMDF has all the messages in one file, like mbox, but uses \001\001\001\001\n as the separator rather than ^From_ . -- Aaron Schrab [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.schrab.com/aaron/ What kind of head of security would I be if I let people like me know things that I'm not supposed to know?-- Garibaldi
Re: Binding both complete and complete-query to tab key
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:43:19AM -0700, Tres Hofmeister wrote: I'm wondering if there's a way to bind complete and complete-query to the same key, rather than two keys as shown in the manual: Tab completecomplete filename or alias ^T complete-query complete address with query I'd like to hit the tab key, and see first my aliases matching my string, and then the results of an external query to an LDAP server. It would also be O.K. to see the external query results only if there was no alias match. I have the LDAP query working, but at the moment it is bound to ^T. Is this even possible? Any suggestions? Thanks... Here's a thought. Have you looked into the Little Brother's Database? It's a really neat tool for accessing a collection of various address databases from one interface. You could use the m_muttalias and m_ldap modules to query both your mutt aliases file and your LDAP server. Then you could either let mutt display all the addresses found, as it usually does, or you could define mutt's query_command like this: set query_command=lbdbq '%s' | sed '3,\$d' and select only the first result returned by lbdbq. You can configure lbdbq so that the first result is the one from your mutt aliases file. And of course the solution using sed assumes that you always want the first result and it won't even show you multiple matches, but maybe you can tune this to get what you want in your situation. You can find out more about The Little Brother's Database here: http://www.spinnaker.de/lbdb/ HTH, Gary -- Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Spokane, Washington, USA http://www.spocom.com/users/gjohnson/mutt/ |
Re: Defanged HTML headers [WAS: Re: [Announce] Mutt 1.3.28 (BETA) is out.]
* Cedric Duval ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: John Buttery said: * Carl B. Constantine [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-18 08:43:58 -0800]: HEADDEFANGED_META HTTP-EQUIV=REFRESH CONTENT=0 URL=http://cedricduval.free.fr/mutt/;/HEAD Really, is there some content that could be seen as malicious in this page? Yes. The 0 means the refresh is instantanious, which breaks the back button on most browsers. This is why HTTP supports redirection; meta refresh is a lame-ass hack, and should be avoided, especially in these circumstances. -- Thomas 'Freaky' Hurst - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.aagh.net/ - Tip of the Day: Never fry bacon in the nude.
Re: Converting mbox to Maildir
Aaron, et al -- ...and then Aaron Schrab said... % % At 13:08 -0500 20 Mar 2002, David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % There are also MMDF and MH folders, and they are of the one-file-per % variety but don't have the tmp, new, and cur subdirs of Maildir. % % True for MH, but not MMDF. MMDF has all the messages in one file, like Oh! % mbox, but uses \001\001\001\001\n as the separator rather than ^From_ . Thanks for the clarification. % % -- % Aaron Schrab [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.schrab.com/aaron/ % What kind of head of security would I be if I let people like me know % things that I'm not supposed to know?-- Garibaldi :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25803/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: save_name is for outbound mails
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 07:23:10PM +0100, Sven Guckes wrote: $save_name refers to copies of outgoing messages, correct? correct. incoming mails is not handled by mutt automatically. this is a job for the mail delivery agents and mail filters. Ordinarily yes, but in this case it's for saving spam which evades the mail filters, for the purposes of educating new filters. -nat
Re: Binding both complete and complete-query to tab key
* On 2002.03.20, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Tres Hofmeister [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-20 08:04]: I'm wondering if there's a way to bind complete and complete-query to the same key, rather than two keys as shown in the manual: you cannot bind two commands to one key. period. (which command should mutt execute then? exactly.) It's quite clear what he wants, and it's not to stymie mutt with a logical error. Please don't assume idiocy on the part of your correspondents just because you're brilliant. I'd like to hit the tab key, and see first my aliases matching my string, and the results of an external query to an LDAP server. this is not configurable. so - write a patch. Well enough, but he's only asking a question, not demanding a feature. Be kind. It would also be O.K. to see the external query results only if there was no alias match. if the query returns nothing then it is ok to see all of it. huh? No. If there is no match among mutt's internal aliases, then, and only then, perform an external query and show those results. -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
OT: Re: disabling save-to-username default
At 1:01 PM EST on March 20 David T-G sent off: ...and then Shawn McMahon said... % % begin quoting what David T-G said on Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:39:23PM -0500: % % HTH HAND and none of this is tested :-) % % Acronymize that last one. :-) Ha! NOTIT for you! :-) No fair. Have a nice day is trivial, but even http://www.ucc.ie/cgi-bin/acronym?NOTIT doesn't expand NOTIT. It was my first excuse to try the translation menu of smart bookmarks in galeon, though. -- TTFN, Robert I. Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://astro.utoronto.ca/~reid/ PGP Key: http://astro.utoronto.ca/~reid/pgp.html
Re: Converting mbox to Maildir
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 01:21:08PM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote: begin quoting what David T-G said on Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 01:08:56PM -0500: % Is mbox the same as Unix format? Yes, mbox is the same mailbox format that you know from years and years ago. Each message is delimited by ^From_ (a newline, From, and a Well, technically, I don't think UNIX has a mail format. UNIX doesn't do mail. *SENDMAIL* has a mail format, and it's mbox. No, SENDMAIL does not have a mail format, it delivers either to a QUEUE directory or to a local delivery agent. BYKT. :-) -- John
Re: OT: Re: disabling save-to-username default
Rob -- ...and then Rob Reid said... % % At 1:01 PM EST on March 20 David T-G sent off: % ...and then Shawn McMahon said... % % % % begin quoting what David T-G said on Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:39:23PM -0500: % % % % HTH HAND and none of this is tested :-) % % % % Acronymize that last one. :-) % % Ha! NOTIT for you! :-) % % No fair. Have a nice day is trivial, but even % % http://www.ucc.ie/cgi-bin/acronym?NOTIT % % doesn't expand NOTIT. Heh. Look up there right after HAND :-) % % It was my first excuse to try the translation menu of smart bookmarks in % galeon, though. Not only that but you gave me the URL, for which I am quite grateful. Can't wait to check it out :-) % % -- % TTFN, % Robert I. Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://astro.utoronto.ca/~reid/ % PGP Key: http://astro.utoronto.ca/~reid/pgp.html HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg25808/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Defanged HTML headers [WAS: Re: [Announce] Mutt 1.3.28 (BETA) is out.]
Thomas Hurst said: HEADDEFANGED_META HTTP-EQUIV=REFRESH CONTENT=0 URL=http://cedricduval.free.fr/mutt/;/HEAD Really, is there some content that could be seen as malicious in this page? Yes. The 0 means the refresh is instantanious, which breaks the back button on most browsers. This is why HTTP supports redirection; meta refresh is a lame-ass hack, and should be avoided, especially in these circumstances. Yes, indeed. But on this page, there are only _two_ META tags: meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 meta name=author content=Cedric Duval The first is required for valid html, and the second... well, while certainly useless, I don't think it will do much harm. If you see a meta refresh somewhere, it does not originate from my code, but from _your_ proxy. -- Cedric
Re: Converting mbox to Maildir
Le 20/03/02 à 17:57, John Poltorak écrivit:
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 09:38:42AM -0800, Tyrin R. Price wrote:
Are any tools or guidance available for converting mailboxes
from mbox to Maildir?
Can someone describe the mbox and Maildir formats for me?
I'm too tired to describe it myself now, and these man pages do that
quite well already:
http://www.qmail.org/man/man5/mbox.html
http://www.qmail.org/man/man5/maildir.html
In short: they do what their names suggest.
Is mbox the same as Unix format?
Yes. There are several flavours of mbox, though.
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Changing/inserting headers with a macro
Hi all, Wonder if anyone can help? I have scoured all the documentation I can find on the web, people's published .muttrc's, etc, but can still not find out how to do what I want, or if it is even possible... Can I insert headers into a message using a macro? Specifically, I want to be able to mimic the MS Outlook message importance tags, which insert two headers: Importance: high X-Priority: 1 Any suggestions or pointers where to find details would be very welcome. Thanks all, Dan
[no subject]
Quoting Christopher Swingley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Use mutt. Tag all the mbox messages (T.*), tag-save (;s=new_maildir) to the maildir mailbox. I think you need to create the maildir directory first, with the requisite tmp/ cur/ and new/ directories underneath. Thanks, Chris. I am using exim, fetchmail (running a global rc file in daemon mode), and procmail. From what I've read online I can remove the trailing : (for file locking) and just add a / to the destination in my procmail recipe to deliver mail in Maildir format. Is this correct? So I just use your tip above, change my muttrc to use Maildir type mailboxes, change my procmail recipes and I should be good to go, right? --
Re: Changing/inserting headers with a macro
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 03:36:57PM -0500, David T-G wrote: Daniel -- ...and then Daniel Bye said... % % Hi all, Hello! % % Wonder if anyone can help? I have scoured all the documentation I can find Well, I wasn't wondering before, but I kind of am now ;-) Sorry, bad habit of mine - tend to omit pronouns in subject position... % on the web, people's published .muttrc's, etc, but can still not find out how % to do what I want, or if it is even possible... While it's certainly possible, mutt doesn't pay attention to those headers but instead uses a flag header. I do it with this snippet in my procmailrc reformatting section # high priority recognition for mutt :0 f : * ^importance: high|^priority: urgent | $FORMAIL -I X-Status: F Yeah, I know mutt doesn't take any notice (I have color rules that search in the headers for the two lines mentioned below, so I can see messages from Out- look users flagged as important). What I was after was a way of fooling Outlook into printing those lovely little icons against any important message I send from mutt - I have found that the word IMPORTANT! at the beginning of the subject line doesn't always do it for Outlookers, and I seem to spend a _lot_ of time sending mail to folks using Outlook. and then this bit in my muttrc mono index standout ~F # reverse index entry for flagged (hi-pri) from very ancient days, but it works for me. % % Can I insert headers into a message using a macro? Specifically, I want to be % able to mimic the MS Outlook message importance tags, which insert two headers: % % Importance: high % X-Priority: 1 Interesting. I thought it was Priority: Urgent It may well be for any well-behaved mail client, but I don't think I have to talk about Microsoft's disciplinary record! ;-) but I haven't looked it up in a while. % % Any suggestions or pointers where to find details would be very welcome. If you have edit_headers turned on, then you can just insert those headers while editing your message and away you go. Thus, if you don't usually edit headers, one possibility is to have a macro that turns on edit_headers, edits the message, and then turns off edit_headers when the editor exits. Another possibility is to just use my_hdr to set them, but you'll have to umny_hdr them *after* you've sent the message. If I were to go this route I'd have a send-hook that by default turns them off and then a macro which turns them on; just finish editing your message, hit your desired macro stroke (it looks, upon a quick glance, as though ^U and ^P are available), and then send the message on its way. This sounds like a good jumping-off point, thanks. % % Thanks all, HTH HAND % % Dan :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! Dan
Re: Changing/inserting headers with a macro
begin quoting what Daniel Bye said on Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 09:00:15PM +: for Outlookers, and I seem to spend a _lot_ of time sending mail to folks using Outlook. I spend a lot of time sending mail to Outlook users, too, but it all just says this: If you are reading this, it means that you sent me an email saying that you can't read my emails. The short answer to why not is: Your mailer is broken. This is your problem, not mine. File a bug report with the vendor. I'm going to continue signing my mail, and if you don't change your end of things, you're going to continue having problems reading it. In some cases (you're cute, my mom, or you're offering sufficient reasons per hour), I'll make exceptions, but this is on a case-by-case basis, and I'm intentionally leaving it as a PITA manual process so that each of us is reminded it's a bad idea: me, when I do it, you, when I forget and you're stuck with unreadable mail from me. GET A REAL MAILER. No, this isn't a virus, a bomb, a bug, a worm, or any other executable code. And if it is, that's your problem, not mine. If your IT or MIS department is brain-dead enough to actually strip off these attachments before you get your mail, I'm going to laugh at you in public. Sorry, this ain't the sympathy department. (This rant excerpted from a longer one copyright (c) 2001, Karsten M. Self. Full rant available on request.) msg25815/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Changing/inserting headers with a macro
Tend to omit pronouns in subject position... Okay, will do so.
Re: Changing/inserting headers with a macro
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 04:05:42PM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote: begin quoting what Daniel Bye said on Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 09:00:15PM +: for Outlookers, and I seem to spend a _lot_ of time sending mail to folks using Outlook. I spend a lot of time sending mail to Outlook users, too, but it all just says this: If you are reading this, it means that you sent me an email saying that you can't read my emails. The short answer to why not is: Your mailer is broken. This is your problem, not mine. File a bug report with the vendor. I'm going to continue signing my mail, and if you don't change your end of things, you're going to continue having problems reading it. In some cases (you're cute, my mom, or you're offering sufficient reasons per hour), I'll make exceptions, but this is on a case-by-case basis, and I'm intentionally leaving it as a PITA manual process so that each of us is reminded it's a bad idea: me, when I do it, you, when I forget and you're stuck with unreadable mail from me. GET A REAL MAILER. No, this isn't a virus, a bomb, a bug, a worm, or any other executable code. And if it is, that's your problem, not mine. If your IT or MIS department is brain-dead enough to actually strip off these attachments before you get your mail, I'm going to laugh at you in public. Sorry, this ain't the sympathy department. (This rant excerpted from a longer one copyright (c) 2001, Karsten M. Self. Full rant available on request.) Err, thanks... ;-) I agree with the main thrust of the rant, but would leave myself in a very tenuous position at work if I were to adopt a similar stance. I resent having to break mutt, so that the already shafted Outlook doesn't sh*t it- self, but I am one of at most 5 pc of the office population who wouldn't accept the status quo and just use Outlook. Alas, that means that most of my day to day business is carried out with people whom I don't really want to alienate by sending them a (finely crafted, no doubt ;-) rant, especially as we're coming up to pay review time! But thanks, again - if only I had a heart like a lion... Dan
Re: Changing/inserting headers with a macro
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 04:16:03PM -0500, Mike Schiraldi wrote: Tend to omit pronouns in subject position... Okay, will do so. Oh gods, what have I started?? ;-)
Re: OT: UNDERSTANDING DAVID T-G
* thus spaketh Shawn McMahon (Mar 20 at 12:48PM): begin quoting what David T-G said on Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:39:23PM -0500: HTH HAND and none of this is tested :-) Acronymize that last one. :-) i'm not sure where else you can acquire it, but /usr/games/wtf that ships with netbsd is great when translating the gibberish of alt.teen usenet junkies. $ /usr/games/wtf HAND HAND: have a nice day -- timothy lupfer http://sadlittleboy.com
Filtering a message from the index
Hello mutt experts, From the index, how can I filter a message through a shell/perl/etc. script, so that the modified message actually *replaces* the original in the mail folder? This is sort of like edit, where a copy of the message is loaded into the $editor, the orignal is marked for deletion, and the new message is appended to the mail folder. This seems like a feature that would be requested/used frequently, but I can't find any mention of it in the mutt manual. Note that pipe-message isn't what I'm looking for, since the output of the pipe does not replace the original message. The best that I've come up with so far is to change the $editor to the filtering command, edit the file, and then reset the $editor to its original value: macro index F ':set editor=mailformat -m -t -s -c -q -ireturne:set editor=vireturn' but this is obviously a hack and I'm betting there is a better solution. Thanks, Steve
Re: Filtering a message from the index - procmail
* Steve Talley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-20 21:51]: From the index, how can I filter a message through a shell/perl/etc. script, so that the modified message actually *replaces* the original in the mail folder? Use a mail filter. This seems like a feature that would be requested/used frequently, but I can't find any mention of it in the mutt manual. that's because mutt is NOT a mail filter. Rpeat: Mutt is *not* a mail filter. period. You are looking for procmail. see sig. Sven -- Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Latest version: PROCMAIL HomePage: http://www.procmail.org/ | procmail-3.22 [011009] PROCMAIL http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/procmail/ PROCMAIL http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/setup/procmailrc
Re: Filtering a message from the index - procmail
I do use procmail. As an MDA. procmail isn't appropriate here. If mutt has the ability to allow the user to edit a message, and then automatically save it to the mail folder, and delete the orignal, why shouldn't it be able to do the same with an arbitrary shell script? Thanks, Steve Sven Guckes wrote: * Steve Talley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-20 21:51]: From the index, how can I filter a message through a shell/perl/etc. script, so that the modified message actually *replaces* the original in the mail folder? Use a mail filter. This seems like a feature that would be requested/used frequently, but I can't find any mention of it in the mutt manual. that's because mutt is NOT a mail filter. Rpeat: Mutt is *not* a mail filter. period. You are looking for procmail. see sig. Sven
Re: petition, rants, sigs - will it ever help?
* Daniel Bye [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-20 21:22]: I agree with the main thrust of the rant, but would leave myself in a very tenuous position at work if I were to adopt a similar stance. blah blah blah But thanks, again - if only I had a heart like a lion... now, if these people would actually have the guts to sign an online petition or use an ASCII ribbon against bad mailers in their sig.. but, no... *sigh* just what will they tell their kids? Daddy - why is the police after us? Because we use Free Software, my son. What is free software, daddy? well... it's free - you know. open source and... uh.. something about free beer. you know.. you just get to use it without paying an hourly rate.. and it's ok. hmm... but you have to pay for Hyper-Mega-Outlook 3000 each time. then it is not free software? Well, you see, I *have* to use Outl**k. I mean, *everbody* is using it! I have no choice! You cannot use something else and get away with it. It's not right. I could lose my job if I complained! It's... peer pressure! I mean - what *else* is there? Grandad Linus said we could use the programs on his 2002 DVD... Shhh, sonny! Not so loud! 'They' are listening! They listen to everybody's mailbox. They have a copy of all the secret keys. and they X-rayed my brain and cloned it for testing hard drives. their secret webpages use gestapo viruses and.. really, dad? really! .. i think.. ... are we lost, dad? No, son, because you.. you will make it better! You will stand up and fight that only remaining computer company with its information retrieval system[tm]. You will resist their programs and use free software ... sshhh! i hear them coming.. ahh.. whiners! sheesh. Sven [heard it all before...] -- Everybody uses the editor/mailer/ program/OS that he deserves!
Re: Filtering a message from the index - procmail
* Steve Talley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-20 22:04]: If mutt has the ability to allow the user to edit a message, and then automatically save it to the mail folder, and delete the orignal, why shouldn't it be able to do the same with an arbitrary shell script? Mutt is not supposed to do things automatically. Mutt operates when the *user* types keys. Mutt does not intend to be a mail filter. Mutt shall not become a replacment for procmail. but of course you can pipe a message to a script which makes changes to the copy and hands it over to sendmail which will hand it over to the MDA and over to the filter will will store it in the same folder. and then you can delete the original. the script is up to you, of course. Sven
Re: Filtering a message from the index - procmail
On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 03:04:20PM -0700, Steve Talley wrote: I do use procmail. As an MDA. procmail isn't appropriate here. If mutt has the ability to allow the user to edit a message, and then automatically save it to the mail folder, and delete the orignal, why shouldn't it be able to do the same with an arbitrary shell script? How about making a macro which sets your editor to the script, runs edit, and then resets your editor? For example, try typing :set editor = 'sleep 1; perl -pi -e s/subject/sUbJeCt/i' and then pressing e on some message. It'll change the case of the subject header. The sleep 1 is necessary because mutt uses the file's timestamp to determine if the message has been modified, and since the script runs so fast, mutt assumes nothing was changed. Someone posted a patch a few months ago which has mutt change the file's timestamp to one second ago before calling the editor, so that you wouldn't need that pause. -- Mike Schiraldi VeriSign Applied Research msg25825/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: UNDERSTANDING DAVID T-G
* tim lupfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-20 21:25]: $ /usr/games/wtf HAND HAND: have a nice day why not read up on the jargon file? http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/ Sven [but that won't help you understanding D-T-G though]
Re: Possible to send mail at a specified time w/ mutt?
* Charles Jie [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-20 01:58]: I'd like to prepare a birthday greeting mail and send it on my friend's birthday morning. I do it currently this way: $ at 6am Mar 25 at mutt -s 'Happy birthday' guy@domain ~/text/to-guy.eml But it's not convenient enough. I wish I could do it all in mutt. Is it possible? 1've found zis kewl programm called LookOutExpress yuh can duh it all with that 1!! Ch3ck it OUT!!1! Sven [it's the taiwan spam that made me do it.. yeah]
wrong threading with both 'In-Reply-To' and 'References'
I just upgraded from mutt 0.89 (yes, a little bit dusty :-) ) to 1.3.28 and found a threading bug: I have a colleague who is using zmail, which generates both: 'In-Reply-To' and 'References' header. Mutt sorts mails from this MUA in a wrong way, I see threads of mails which has nothing to do with each other. A typical zmail header (cutout) looks like this: In-Reply-To: Ulli Horlacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: ssh und zlib (Mar 12, 13:56) References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Z-Mail (5.0.0 30July97) This looks weired, but is correct for RFC822. I assume mutt (mis)interprets the mail-address in the In-Reply-To header as a MID. I could set up a procmail rule like: :0 f * ^References: * ^In-Reply-To: [^] | formail -R In-Reply-To X-In-Reply-To But this does not help me with the zillions of old mails I have in my LOT of mailbox files. I would have to convert them manually. Can I convince mutt to ignore the In-Reply-To header if there is a References header? mutt 0.89 does not show this threading bug. -- -- Ullrich Horlacher, BelWue Coordination --- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Computing Centre University of Stuttgart (RUS) phone: +49 711 685 5868 Allmandring 30, D-70550 Stuttgart, Germanyfax: +49 711 678 8363 -- saft://saft.belwue.de/framstag - http://www.belwue.de/
Re: Binding both complete and complete-query to tab key
* David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-20 19:47]: * On 2002.03.20, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Tres Hofmeister [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-20 08:04]: It would also be O.K. to see the external query results only if there was no alias match. if the query returns nothing then it is ok to see all of it. huh? No. If there is no match among mutt's internal aliases, then, and only then, perform an external query and show those results. well, there is no scripting language containing if/then/else structures in mutt, is there? so this requires a patch. no? Sven
Re: OT: UNDERSTANDING DAVID T-G
* tim lupfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-20 15:24]: * thus spaketh Shawn McMahon (Mar 20 at 12:48PM): begin quoting what David T-G said on Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:39:23PM -0500: HTH HAND and none of this is tested :-) Acronymize that last one. :-) i'm not sure where else you can acquire it, but /usr/games/wtf that ships with netbsd is great when translating the gibberish of alt.teen usenet junkies. $ /usr/games/wtf HAND HAND: have a nice day http://kldp.org/~eunjea/jargon/?idx=HTH http://kldp.org/~eunjea/jargon/?idx=HAND http://kldp.org/~eunjea/jargon/?idx=talk-mode.html ;) -- http://kldp.org/~eunjea/ http://mutt.kldp.org Programming is an unnatural act.
Re: Binding both complete and complete-query to tab key
On 2002-03-20, David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : : It's quite clear what he wants, and it's not to stymie mutt with : a logical error. Please don't assume idiocy on the part of your : correspondents just because you're brilliant. :) : No. If there is no match among mutt's internal aliases, then, : and only then, perform an external query and show those results. Yes, exactly. I have also looked briefly at lbdb http://www.spinnaker.de/lbdb/ as another reader suggested, but would prefer a Mutt-only solution. To put the question another way, I was wondering if there was a way to conditionally call an internal function if a previous function fails, in this case complete and complete-query. Sounds like the answer is no... ;) -- Tres Hofmeister [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rap.ucar.edu/~tres/ Research Applications Program, National Center for Atmospheric Research
Re: wrong threading with both 'In-Reply-To' and 'References'
* Ulli Horlacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-20 22:37]: I just upgraded from mutt 0.89 ... where have been hiding all those years? using jed and its mailmode, I suppose? ;-) ... to 1.3.28 and found a threading bug: A typical zmail header (cutout) looks like this: In-Reply-To: Ulli Horlacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: ssh und zlib (Mar 12, 13:56) References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Z-Mail (5.0.0 30July97) I assume mutt (mis)interprets the mail-address in the In-Reply-To header as a MID. yup - must be it. Can I convince mutt to ignore the In-Reply-To header if there is a References header? no, i dont think there is an option for that yet. mutt 0.89 does not show this threading bug. *staun* Sven
Re: Filtering a message from the index - procmail
Mike Schiraldi wrote: On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 03:04:20PM -0700, Steve Talley wrote: I do use procmail. As an MDA. procmail isn't appropriate here. If mutt has the ability to allow the user to edit a message, and then automatically save it to the mail folder, and delete the orignal, why shouldn't it be able to do the same with an arbitrary shell script? How about making a macro which sets your editor to the script, runs edit, and then resets your editor? For example, try typing :set editor = 'sleep 1; perl -pi -e s/subject/sUbJeCt/i' and then pressing e on some message. It'll change the case of the subject header. Yeah, this is what I'm doing now. But what a hack. It makes for some cumbersome macros... determine if the message has been modified, and since the script runs so fast, mutt assumes nothing was changed. Someone posted a patch a few months ago which has mutt change the file's timestamp to one second ago before calling the editor, so that you wouldn't need that pause. How about a patch just to filter to an arbitrary command, so that this hack isn't needed? Clearly 99% of the code exists to do that already... Thanks, Steve
Re: oh, no - not another bloat patch!
* Steve Talley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-20 23:06]: :set editor = 'sleep 1; perl -pi -e s/subject/sUbJeCt/i' Someone posted a patch a few months ago which has mutt change the file's timestamp to one second ago before calling the editor, so that you wouldn't need that pause. How about a patch just to filter to an arbitrary command, so that this hack isn't needed? the pipe command is there - use it. and everything that makes the sleep command superfluous should be less than that in bytes. everything else is bloat! people steal scripts from others without understanding the sleep thing, anyway. so why bother? Sven
Re: compressed folders and Maildir
* Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-18 22:41]: I'm using Maildir as my default mbox type and also want to save old messages in my archive in mbox format. To do this, I'm using the compressed folders patch, and when I was still using mbox, this worked fine. However, when mbox_type is set to Maildir, saving to .bz2 files won't work. The messages simply aren't appended to the .bz2 file. Setting mbox_type to mbox allows me to save the messages. who said that the compressed folders patch will work when using Maildir format? ;-) (no, I did not bother to check this.. did you?) Is there a way to also execute some mutt commands in the save-hook/append-hook? append-hook? is this a new one? $ grep append- mutt-1.3.27/*(.) mx.c:else /* use regular append-copy mode */ grep: po: Is a directory sendlib.c:dprint (1, (debugfile, mutt_write_fcc(): unable to open mailbox %s in append-mode, aborting.\n, hmm... as for save-hook: 3.14. Specify default save filename Usage: save-hook [!]pattern filename do you see a command in there? right. Sven
Re: Converting mbox to Maildir
* Tyrin R. Price [EMAIL PROTECTED], 2002-03-20 18:38 -0500: I am using exim, fetchmail (running a global rc file in daemon mode), and procmail. From what I've read online I can remove the trailing : (for file locking) and just add a / to the destination in my procmail recipe to deliver mail in Maildir format. Is this correct? A little OT... here are the relevant parts from my /etc/exim.conf: # TRANSPORTS CONFIGURATION # maildir_delivery: driver = appendfile no_from_hack prefix = suffix = maildir_format directory = $home/Maildir create_directory address_directory: driver = appendfile no_from_hack prefix = suffix = maildir_format # DIRECTORS CONFIGURATION # real_local: prefix = real- driver = localuser # transport = local_delivery transport = maildir_delivery HTH -Andre msg25836/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Filtering a message from the index - procmail
Thanks for the suggestions, Sven. The pipe command doesn't save the output of the command as a new version of the message. It also doesn't mark the original message as deleted. Thanks anyway! Steve Sven Guckes wrote: * Steve Talley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-20 23:06]: :set editor = 'sleep 1; perl -pi -e s/subject/sUbJeCt/i' Someone posted a patch a few months ago which has mutt change the file's timestamp to one second ago before calling the editor, so that you wouldn't need that pause. How about a patch just to filter to an arbitrary command, so that this hack isn't needed? the pipe command is there - use it. and everything that makes the sleep command superfluous should be less than that in bytes. everything else is bloat! people steal scripts from others without understanding the sleep thing, anyway. so why bother? Sven
Re: Replacing a message with its filtered output
* Steve Talley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-20 23:58]: The pipe command doesn't save the output of the command as a new version of the message. It also doesn't mark the original message as deleted. well, that's why I suggested you send the resulting message to yourself again so it gets injected again. but I suppose you need not only a changed *body* of the message - but keep the header (mostly) as is? workaround: save the message to a new folder. edit that folder (basically just that message). call mutt on that folder again - and save the message back. it maybe takes more steps - but it is a lot safer than making mutt store a changed version of some message into the same folder and deleting the orginal. i would not want to be at the help desk where people *have* to help users find their lost data due to that command.. Sven
Re: Replacing a message with its filtered output
Sven Guckes wrote: * Steve Talley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-20 23:58]: The pipe command doesn't save the output of the command as a new version of the message. It also doesn't mark the original message as deleted. workaround: save the message to a new folder. edit that folder (basically just that message). call mutt on that folder again - and save the message back. Sounds overly complicated. it maybe takes more steps - but it is a lot safer than making mutt store a changed version of some message into the same folder and deleting the orginal. Since that's what mutt already does with the edit-message command, I wouldn't be worried. Mutt doesn't actually delete it, it just marks it as deleted. The next time you sync-mailbox, it will actually be deleted. It looks like modifying the $editor variable and resetting it later is the easiest solution. It's a shame mutt can't do this more elegantly. Thanks Sven. Steve
Re: Replacing a message with and edited copy
* Steve Talley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-21 00:29]: workaround: save the message to a new folder. edit that folder (basically just that message). call mutt on that folder again - and save the message back. Sounds overly complicated. really? let me see... mutt s ~/foo RET CTRL-Z $EDITOR ~/foo (make changes) mutt -f ~/foo s ! RET q fg well, that's not so bad, is it? this only uses what you should know about job control, anyway. :-) It looks like modifying the $editor variable and resetting it later is the easiest solution. It's a shame mutt can't do this more elegantly. well, is there a mailer yet that does this more elegantly? (and remember: EmacsOS does not count! ;-) Sven
Re: Defanged HTML headers [WAS: Re: [Announce] Mutt 1.3.28 (BETA) is out.]
On Mar 18, John Buttery [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: * Carl B. Constantine [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-18 08:43:58 -0800]: all I get at this page is the following: HEADDEFANGED_META HTTP-EQUIV=REFRESH CONTENT=0 URL=http://cedricduval.free.fr/mutt/;/HEAD that is displayed in NS 6.2.1 (solaris). You have a proxy server that is defanging tags for you (to protect from malicious META headers, Javascript, yadda yadda). You need to remove the DEFANGED_ so it just says ...META ... and it will redirect properly. Or you could just hit that URL it lists there directly and skip the redirection altogether. :) The version of Carl's mail that I saw did not have the defanged prefix. Are you sure your proxy isn't doing this for you in his incoming mail? msg25841/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Replacing a message with its filtered output
Sven Guckes wrote: * Steve Talley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-21 00:29]: workaround: save the message to a new folder. edit that folder (basically just that message). call mutt on that folder again - and save the message back. Sounds overly complicated. really? Yep: let me see... mutt s ~/foo RET CTRL-Z $EDITOR ~/foo (make changes) mutt -f ~/foo s ! RET q fg well, that's not so bad, is it? Actually, I'm looking for a 1-key shortcut. This would be an even bigger hack than setting $editor. :) this only uses what you should know about job control, anyway. :-) It looks like modifying the $editor variable and resetting it later is the easiest solution. It's a shame mutt can't do this more elegantly. well, is there a mailer yet that does this more elegantly? (and remember: EmacsOS does not count! ;-) I don't know. Why does that matter? I want to use mutt! Steve
Re: Filtering a message from the index - procmail
Rocco Rutte wrote: Hello, On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 04:57:48:PM -0700 Steve Talley wrote: The pipe command doesn't save the output of the command as a new version of the message. It also doesn't mark the original message as deleted. Right. But why not write a macro which: 1) pipes the message to a command (this command may be a shell script using another instance of Mutt to send the *changed* mail to yourself), What happens if the filter modifies the To: header? ;) Yes, I know I could use pipe + procmail/anotherinstanceofmutt/... to do this but it seems as much of a hack as setting $editor before invoking edit-message. Since mutt has the pipe-message functionality, and mutt has the edit-message functionality, why shouldn't it combine the two to create filter-message to save its users from the multitudes of hacks/workarounds? At any rate, thanks for your help! Steve
Re: Filtering a message from the index - procmail
* Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-21 01:01]: The pipe command doesn't save the output of the command as a new version of the message. It also doesn't mark the original message as deleted. Right. But why not write a macro which: 1) pipes the message to a command (this command may be a shell script using another instance of Mutt to send the *changed* mail to yourself), 2) marks the old message as deleted and 3) syncs the mailbox ? Should even fit on a line in your config as works by pressing just *one* key. well, you can put everything on one key, but... you don't want this if some part of the command sequence fails, right? so many things can go wrong here. i would not issue a delete command if I was not really sure. in this case this means that the changed messages arrives in the mailbox. but how can you make sure about this? this certainly needs extra code in mutt. and it cannot be 100% sure as the message has been changed, right? I think it is better to copy the message to the current folder and editing that copy. It's yet another workaround - but not a bad one, is it? :-) Sven
Re: wrong threading with both 'In-Reply-To' and 'References'
begin quoting what Sven Guckes said on Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 11:52:42PM +0100: Can I convince mutt to ignore the In-Reply-To header if there is a References header? no, i dont think there is an option for that yet. I guess he could use procmail to remove the In-Reply-To header if there is a References header. Or rewrite it to say the same thing. msg25845/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
