Fwd: Re: [ILUG] oceanfree smtp relaying problem
I sent this to the Irish LUG but I thought I'd try out mutt users in case any sendmail gurus could help. - Forwarded message from Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 22:39:56 +0100 From: Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ILUG [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ILUG] oceanfree smtp relaying problem On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 09:42:03PM +0100 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Niall O Broin thought: On Fri, Jun 15, 2001 at 05:31:54PM +0100, Conor Daly wrote: I'm using mail.oceanfree.net for pop and smtp.oceanfree.net for smtp. Up until a short while ago, both resolved to the same host and I was using pop before smtp to authenticate with the smtp server. Now, suddenly, mail.oceanfree.net is one of 212.2.162.36 37 or 38 while smtp.oceanfree.net is 212.2.163.39 Now, I'm getting relaying prohibited errors when I sendmail -q That's curious - most ISPs allow relaying from their domains i.e. if you dial in to oceanfree, you can use smtp.oceanfree.net for smtp, and there's no need for pop before smtp authentication. If smtp.oceanfree.net suddenly won't allow you to relay from an Oceanfree IP address, then I reckon it's 58p a minute tech. support time, and good luck getting someone who understands the problem. Ah, but iI'm not using oceanfree as an ISP. I just use their free email accounts. Is there a way to set authentication info in sendmail.cf or somewhere or is there anything else I can try? There is a new SMTP AUTH protocol - I presume it's in recent versions of sendmail, though not all MUAs support it. I have a version of postfix which supports it, but I haven't had a chance to look at it yet. Can any sendmail gurus point me towards the appropriate config for SMTP AUTH? - End forwarded message - Thanks Conor -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064276 Fax +353 1 8064275 8:14am up 25 days, 19:16, 11 users, load average: 2.14, 2.10, 2.09
Re: Fwd: Re: [ILUG] oceanfree smtp relaying problem
On Tue, Jun 19, 2001 at 03:49:17PM +0530 or thereabouts, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Conor Daly [mutt-users] 19/06/01 08:47 +: I sent this to the Irish LUG but I thought I'd try out mutt users in case any sendmail gurus could help. Now, I'm getting relaying prohibited errors when I sendmail -q That's curious - most ISPs allow relaying from their domains i.e. if you dial in to oceanfree, you can use smtp.oceanfree.net for smtp, and there's no need for pop before smtp authentication. If smtp.oceanfree.net suddenly If there's pop before smtp, put a script into ip-up.local (assuming linux) that calls fetchmail first before /usr/sbin/sendmail -q Originally, mail.oceanfree.net and smtp.oceanfree.net were the same host and I was using pop before smtp just as you suggested. Unfortunately, mail and smtp are now on seperate hosts sp pop before smtp no loonger works. I even tried pop before smtp on the *smtp* host but it wouldn't accept a pop connection at all. Can any sendmail gurus point me towards the appropriate config for SMTP AUTH? _If_ that ISP supports it, it is http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html Oh, they support it all right. Their smtp instructions consist of Set up MS Outlook Express to use your pop authorisation for smtp. Only problem is, if you phone their 58p/minute helpline and mention linux or sendmail the response if What's that? Have looked at http://www.sendmail.org/~ca/email/auth.html and will try to unravel my confusion with that. For my purposes, which is to have sendmail authenticate with its smart relay, I presume I only need the following in my sendmail.cf DefaultAuthInfo (confDEF_AUTH_INFO) specifies a file in which the authorization identity, the authentication identity, the secret, and the realm to be used for authentication are stored. This file must be in a safe directory and unreadable by everyone except root (or TrustedUser). It is used when sendmail acts as a client to authenticate itself to a server. Example: admin admin MySecretPassword example.domain Note: all data is case sensitive (usually). recommended filename: /etc/mail/default-auth-info ps - point the guy to comp.mail.sendmail I have duly pointed *me* to comp.mail.sendmail ! Thanks, Conor -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064276 Fax +353 1 8064275 11:01am up 25 days, 22:04, 11 users, load average: 2.13, 2.13, 2.25
Re: How make StarOffice read MS-Word attachments automagically?
On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 07:46:03PM -0700 or thereabouts, Dr. Christian Seberino wrote: I successfully got html attachments read automagically and thought I would be more ambitious and get StarOffice to read M$-Word attachments too... What is the analog of auto_view text/html in .muttrc and text/html; lynx -dump %s ; copiousoutput in .mailcap? (I tried auto_view text/doc but no go (doc is binary :( ) I still love mutt, Excerpt from my .mailcap application/msword; /home/cdaly/bin/office52/soffice %s ; edit=/home/cdaly/bin/office52/soffice %s; compose=/home/cdaly/bin/office52/soffice %s; description=Microsoft Word document Thassit... -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275 1:20pm up 19:13, 10 users, load average: 0.01, 0.04, 0.13
Re: KDE default MUA
On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 11:02:17AM +0800 or thereabouts, Yu-Chung Cheng wrote: Hi, I'm quite new to mutt, does anybody know how to config KDE default MUA to mutt, e.g. the mailto: default to call mutt. I try to change in the Personalization/E-Mail entry, but it doesn't work. Wild guess here, try checking out $HOME/.kde/config/kfm There is stuff in there for the KDE File Manager which seems to handle mime types and stuff for lots of k programs. You may manage something there. For example, to have kmail start StarOffice for M$Word docs, I had to create an msword.kdelnk in a mimetypes/application directory somewhere under $HOME/.kde since msword docs come as application/msword under mime. I just copied another .kdelnk file in the same directory and edited it to suit *.doc files and to launch staroffice. I also had to include application/msword in another file (possibly Staroffice.kdelnk) in another directory under $HOME/.kde (possibly config/kfm) to get everything going. After that, all that remained was to exit and restart kde. As you may have guessed, I'm not at the machine on which I did all this stuff just now but if you can't figure something out yourself, shout and I'll see if I can work out exactly what I did! Conor -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275 6:12pm up 17 days, 3:23, 8 users, load average: 0.08, 0.04, 0.01
Re: IMAP mail filtering
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 10:31:32AM -0500 or thereabouts, Joe Rice wrote: I've been working on something to do my IMAP filtering in a pre-mutt execution. I use the perl module Mail::IMAPClient and perl's great regex for my filtering. I've only spent about 30 minutes working on it so, it's no where close to what i want but, it will work and do exactly what i'm looking to do (filter mail into folders). joe Please upload it somewhere when you're done. I'm currently using mutt with imap to an M$ exchange server and cannot modify the filters on the server itself. This would be just the solution I need. Indeed, if you could include the ability to create new folders on the imap server that would be even nicer. Conor. -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275 4:19pm up 14 days, 1:30, 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05
Re: Colors aren't quite working
On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 10:30:53PM +0200 or thereabouts, Erika Pacholleck wrote: ( Apr-09-2001 ) Conor Daly --: This should work. color index red default "~l" color index brightred default "~N~l" color index brightyellow default "~N!~l" Try naming the color instead of default It *should* work but alas it doesn't. I'm using Mutt 1.2.5i (2000-07-28) System: Linux 2.2.16-22 [using slang 10401] Compile options: snipped them I am using the same mutt version, compile options identical BUT: linked against ncuses-5.2 the same .muttrc worked beautifully on an RH 6.2 box. Any thoughts? Just an idea what you might check, RH 6.2 slang or ncurses? Don't know about slang but I read somewhere that some variables have to be set (.profile or so) - as said, all just ideas. -- Erika AAARRR! from my .muttrc lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] lists issues techtalk grrltalk lists mutt-users mailman-users List mails don't get coloured. I added subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] subscribe issues techtalk grrltalk subscribe mutt-users mailman-users and it all worked! Interesting how the "Reply to list" works for "lists" but colours work only for "subscribe"d lists. All fixed, Thanks for suggestions. Conor -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275 7:33pm up 2 days, 4:44, 9 users, load average: 0.11, 0.04, 0.01
Re: Colors aren't quite working
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 09:58:18PM +0200 or thereabouts, Michael Tatge wrote: Conor Daly muttered: On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 03:40:03PM +0100 or thereabouts, Ailbhe Leamy wrote: I have a number of lists defined which are recognised, for instance, by "L" to "reply to list" but are not recognised for colours. my colour entries in .muttrc are color index brightyellow default "~N" color index red default "~l" # colour list messages red color index brightred default "~N~l" # colour new list messages bright red Note the "list" rules are the *last* "index" rules in .muttrc but this colouring just doesn't happen. This should work. color index red default "~l" color index brightred default "~N~l" color index brightyellow default "~N!~l" It *should* work but alas it doesn't. I'm using mutt -v Mutt 1.2.5i (2000-07-28) Copyright (C) 1996-2000 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: Linux 2.2.16-22 [using slang 10401] Compile options: -DOMAIN -DEBUG -HOMESPOOL -USE_SETGID -USE_DOTLOCK +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK +USE_IMAP +USE_GSS +USE_SSL +USE_POP +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_PGP -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS +ENABLE_NLS SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail" MAILPATH="/var/mail" SHAREDIR="/etc" SYSCONFDIR="/etc" ISPELL="/usr/bin/ispell" To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. To report a bug, please use the muttbug utility. the same .muttrc worked beautifully on an RH 6.2 box. Any thoughts? I'll have to go look at the bug database. Conor. -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275 1:22pm up 5 days, 3:02, 4 users, load average: 0.06, 0.05, 0.01
Re: Mutt NOT deleting /tmp consistently
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 01:11:31AM +0200 or thereabouts, Andre Majorel wrote: On 2001-04-04 10:35 -0600, Duke Normandin wrote: What could be some of the reasons why Mutt would NOT be deleting its temporary files in the muttrc-defined /tmp directory? Permissions?? Tia.. Do your leftover files have backup suffixes (E.G. "*~") ? Mutt can't guess that your editor is configured to make backup files. Using vim and ls /tmp/mutt* gives ls /tmp/mutt* /tmp/mutt-bofh-7167-62 /tmp/mutt-bofh-7167-81 /tmp/mutt-bofh-7167-93 /tmp/mutt-bofh-7167-64 /tmp/mutt-bofh-7167-84 /tmp/mutt-bofh-7167-95 /tmp/mutt-bofh-7167-66 /tmp/mutt-bofh-7167-89 /tmp/mutt-bofh-7167-96 /tmp/mutt-bofh-7167-77 /tmp/mutt-bofh-7167-91 /tmp/mutt-check.tmp mutt-check.tmp is of my own devising and is created at the "sendmail" stage of sending and shouldn't relate to the other files at all. Conor -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275 8:44am up 1 day, 22:24, 5 users, load average: 0.13, 0.24, 0.15
Re: Colors aren't quite working
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 03:40:03PM +0100 or thereabouts, Ailbhe Leamy wrote: OK, I have gone a little mad with colours, but I'm too lazy to actualyl read things, I prefer to have it land in my brain without my intervention. I'm getting oddness also with Mutt 1.2.5i (2000-07-28) Copyright (C) 1996-2000 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: Linux 2.2.16-22 [using slang 10401] Compile options: -DOMAIN -DEBUG -HOMESPOOL -USE_SETGID -USE_DOTLOCK +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK +USE_IMAP +USE_GSS +USE_SSL +USE_POP +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_PGP -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS +ENABLE_NLS SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail" MAILPATH="/var/mail" SHAREDIR="/etc" SYSCONFDIR="/etc" ISPELL="/usr/bin/ispell" To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. To report a bug, please use the muttbug utility. I have a number of lists defined which are recognised, for instance, by "L" to "reply to list" but are not recognised for colours. my colour entries in .muttrc are color hdrdefault blue default color quoted brightgreen default color signature cyan default color indicator blue red color index yellow default "" color index brightyellow default "~N" color index red default "~l" # colour list messages red color index brightred default "~N~l" # colour new list messages bright red color error brightred default color status black brightred color tree brightmagenta default# the thread tree in the index menu color tilde brightmagenta default color message brightcyan default color normal default default color attachment brightmagenta default color search default green# how to hilite search patterns in the pager color header cyan default "^(To|Date|From|Subject):" color body red default "(ftp|http)://[^ ]+"# point out URLs color body white default [-a-z_0-9.]+@[-a-z_0-9.]+# e-mail addresses color underline brightgreen default Note the "list" rules are the *last* "index" rules in .muttrc but this colouring just doesn't happen. IMAP rocks over my previous version on rh6.2 (mutt-1.0.1i) but the colours worked correctly there. -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275 9:19am up 1 day, 22:59, 6 users, load average: 0.13, 0.07, 0.02
Re: Configure ViM in Mutt
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 02:51:10PM +0200 or thereabouts, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To take effect, syntax highlighting must be switched on once again after setting bg in vim command mode. Or put 'set bg=dark' into your .vimrc file. So how's that done then? TIA -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275 4:14pm up 3:39, 4 users, load average: 0.14, 0.11, 0.04
Re: outlook 2000 attachments
On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 10:21:33PM -0700 or thereabouts, Dave Murray wrote: Drew Fisher wrote on mutt-users: I have a (hopefully) quick question to ask. I am running Mutt v1.3.14i and whenever I receive an email with an attachment from someone using Microsoft Outlook 2000, the attachment always comes up looking like: Mutt seems to know about attachments from non-Outlook 2000 mail programs, but dies whenever I get anything from Outlook 2K. What can I do to fix (or get around) this problem? I must use Outlook/NT at work. This morning I looked at the header details of something that I sent from home (mutt/PGP signed). It said something to the effect that there was MIME information in the email, and my mail reader is not MIME compliant, and I my not be able to see some or all of the data. It was true, I saw none of the PGP stuff (new headers). I looked, and could not find a way to change the settings for MIME compliance. Microsoft apparently sees no need to care about MIME standards. Well, obviously, anyone who matters will be using an M$ mail client to read their mail and those who don't will just have to start! "Embrace and Extend" "Embrace and Extend" (kinda like a mantra!) -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275 10:46am up 53 min, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Re: using non-local smtp server?
On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 04:27:47PM +1100 or thereabouts, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For other users in my position, namely with a machine without a hostname and/or externally visible IP, my advice is to stay clear of sendmail/qmail and try ssmtp. Funnily enough, I'm doing exactly that:- running sendmail on a box with an internal IP through an IP Masq box and I set it all up using Donncha O'Caoimh's "install-sendmail" script available from http://cork.linux.ie That's the way to go. -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275 11:32am up 1:22, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.08, 0.44
Re: off-topic (printing man pages)
On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:46:26PM +0800 or so it is rumoured hereabouts,
Horace G. Friend III thought:
Hi Rich,
Here's the output from man procmail | col -b procmail.txt
sh: -c: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of line
Error executing formatting or display command.
System command (cd /usr/share/man ; (echo -e ".pl 11i"; /usr/bin/gunzip -c
/usr/share/man/man1/procmail.1.gz | /usr/bin/gtbl | /usr/bin/groff -S -Tlatin1 -mando
| /usr/bin less -isr) exited with status 2.
No manual entry for procmail
Do you get anything from
man procmail
? I'm inclined to think the man page for procmail is not installed. try
"man ls" (you can be pretty sure of having that manpage..)
That's it. So what happened here and what's next? Thanks.
Had a difficult time writing the above. How can I catch these error msgs into a text
file for reading into another editor such as in here?
Do
man procmail | col -b procmail.txt 2 errors.txt
The redirector operator "" works on a number of "streams".
1. STDOUT ("Standard out" which is the "normal" output from a program)
Useage: 'command 1 stdout.txt'
or
'command stdout.txt'
2. STDERR ("Standard error" which usually carries error/debug messages)
Useage: 'command 2 stderr.txt'
"" or "1" sends standard out to whatever you specify.
"2" sends standard error to whatever you specify.
Conor
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Re: 1.3.16 compile error
On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 09:24:26AM + or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Brian Galbraith thought: On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 02:13:19AM -0500, Justin R. Miller allegedly said: Hi, Anyone have a fix for this? make[1]: Entering directory `/home/justin/mutt-1.3.16/doc' test -f manual.html || make manual.html || cp ./manual*.html ./ test -f manual.txt || make manual.txt || cp ./manual.txt ./ make[1]: *** No rule to make target `instdoc.sh.in', needed by `instdoc.sh'. Stop. make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/justin/mutt-1.3.16/doc' make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1 This is also of interest to me..I have had exactly the same problem I thought someone mentioned a requirement for sgmltools to build the mutt development tree. Could this be the problem here? the sgml stuff is about the documentation which is where this is failing... -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-) - Faenor.cod.ie 11:48am up 22:23, 0 users, load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.01 Hobbiton.cod.ie 10:47am up 20:57, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00
Re: Mark thread as read and advance to next unread?
On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 12:40:32PM -0500 or thereabouts, James Snow wrote: I tried binding ^R to 'read-thread next-unread' but Mutt doesn't seem to like keys bound to more than one action. I'm sure there's a way to do this, so, what did I miss? :) I use macro index F1 read-threadnext-newcurrent-middle macro pager F1 read-threadnext-newcurrent-middle You gotta do it as a "macro" rather than a "bind"ing -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275 6:49pm up 1:48, 3 users, load average: 0.15, 0.15, 0.08
Re: sending postponed messages
On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 12:54:21PM -0800 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, [EMAIL PROTECTED] thought: On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 08:11:22AM +0100, Pacholleck wrote: I have already been through dejanews for search and as far as I understood form the thread it is really not possible to send the postponed messages in one bunch once I am connected to the net? I cannot afford long online times waiting that some sendmail deceides to try delivery again or recalling every of all those postponed in vi again. If you're offline when you send messages (not postpone them), sendmail should queue the messages. When you're online again, "sendmail -q" should flush the queue, i.e., send all the messages in the queue. Have a look at: http://lists.suse.com/archives/suse-linux-e/2000-Jun/2112.html http://cork.linux.ie/projects/install-sendmail/ I used install-sendmail to get set up initially and then use a script that gets fired up when I go online to do a 'sendmail -q' to send queued mail. There's a few other things that happen with that script like: firing up my firewall, fetching mail from numerous pop servers and fetching news for my local news server. That's available if you want but you need to check out how to start a script once you go online (I use diald which has an option for a "just connected" script). -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-) - faenor.cod.ie 12:48am up 120 days, 7:17, 0 users, load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.01 Hobbiton.cod.ie 12:53am up 25 days, 14:43, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Re: mutt not deleting attachment
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 04:05:38PM -0500 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Ken Weingold thought: In the attachment menu of an email I received, I hit 'd' on an attached jpeg, then 'q' to get back to the index. The messaged showed the lowercase 'd' indicating that one part was marked for deletion. I resync the mailbox and it doesn't delete the attachment. Message stays the same. The mailbox is not read-only. And this is happening in my spool folder as well as a mailbox under ~/Mail/. Any ideas why this happens? This is mutt 1.2.5i. I have no idea how long it's been like this, but I used to be able to do this. "D"? or is that just when composing? -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-) - faenor.cod.ie 10:43pm up 115 days, 5:11, 0 users, load average: 0.11, 0.07, 0.02 Hobbiton.cod.ie 10:46pm up 20 days, 12:35, 1 user, load average: 0.03, 0.02, 0.00
Re: ignoring backup-inbox in !mailboxes watch
On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 12:33:08AM -0800 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Jason Helfman thought: I am using Procmail to copy all incoming messages to a mbox file called backup-inbox, however I don't want it to be watched for incoming mail in my mailboxes clarification. Is their a way to accomplish this via command line in my mutt settings? mailboxes ! `echo $HOME/Mail/*` mailboxes ! `echo $HOME/Mail/* | grep -v backup-inbox` -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-) - faenor.cod.ie 10:34am up 105 days, 17:02, 0 users, load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.01 Hobbiton.cod.ie 10:33am up 11 days, 22 min, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.01, 0.00
Re: Selecting headers to delete on pop3 server
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 09:26:02AM +0100 or thereabouts, Marco Fioretti wrote: Hello, I have mutt 1.0-i happily running on a RH6.2 box, but haven't figured yet how to do what follows. When ones subscribes to a mailing list, he or she is only interested in a (small) part of the threads discussed. For example, I am subscribed to mutt-users and have (currently) no IMAP. What I would like to do is: 1) Whenever I see the first message of an uninteresting thread, I tell mutt that I'm not interested in it. 2) mutt writes this to some log file It occurs to me that you could use some kind of send or save hook to run a script which greps the from line into a log file. Perhaps something like forward to bitbucket@localhost and use a send hook on that address 3) Next time I dial up, a script reads this log file, connects to the pop server and deletes everything which is FROM the mailing list AND with that header. 4) only at this point fetchmail starts and downloads only what might be interesting 5) the log file is cleaned every few days. I know how to do points 3,4,5, but how do I tell mutt to create this log file? Has somebody already done this? Post the rest would you? -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275 9:59am up 1:11, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.10, 0.10
Re: Selecting headers to delete on pop3 server
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 01:53:03PM +0100 or thereabouts, Marco Fioretti wrote: Conor Daly wrote: ... 1) Whenever I see the first message of an uninteresting thread, I tell mutt that I'm not interested in it. 2) mutt writes this to some log file It occurs to me that you could use some kind of send or save hook to run a script which greps the from line into a log file. Perhaps something like forward to bitbucket@localhost and use a send hook on that address My first idea had been to save all these "to-be-deleted" messages into a trash folder, and have the external script filtering ^Subject and ^From lines out of the folder. If possible however, I would like to implement something that doesn't require extra resources (i.e. extra mailboxes for complete messages or bogus accounts) What would REALLY do the trick is some "shell excape" which just makes mutt do the following: echo subject_and_From_header some_file I did read the whole manual some time ago, but I can't remember any "shell-excape", i.e. something that make mutt execute shell commands with dynamic arguments. Is something like that available? No time now, will think... -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275 1:20pm up 4:32, 7 users, load average: 0.01, 0.05, 0.04
Re: Selecting headers to delete on pop3 server
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 03:56:45PM +0100 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Marco Fioretti thought: What would REALLY do the trick is some "shell excape" which just makes mutt do the following: echo subject_and_From_header some_file I did read the whole manual some time ago, but I can't remember any "shell-excape", i.e. something that make mutt execute shell commands with dynamic arguments. Is something like that available? No time now, will think... Idea: we may achieve the desired effect ( i.e. passing information to some external program) if it were possible to define (within mutt or from the prompt) a mailbox which is actually a pipe, right? As in set MAIL_TO_BE_DISCARDED = "| my_program.pl" Maybe named pipes would do it, what do you think? Marco I'm not familiar enough with the mutt "set" capabilities to comment on that. How do you get the message into the pipe? "save" perhaps? Did some thinking though... What I had been thinking about was to do something with "set editor" and use a send-hook and macro to _forward_ the unwanted message to the filtering script. Something like: macro index escD forward-messagebitbucket@localhostenter with send-hook bitbucket set editor="~/bin/maildump" Now, using that, the ~/bin/maildump looks like #!/bin/bash maildump ### # get "From" and "Subject" lines to use for filtering from pop server # We're masquerading as an editor here for mutt so we get the message # filename on $1. That's kinda handy since we don't need to worry about # cat or anything. grep -A10 - Forwarded message $1 /tmp/maildump$$.tmp 2/dev/null grep From /tmp/maildump$$.tmp /tmp/dump$$.tmp grep Subject /tmp/maildump$$.tmp /tmp/dump$$.tmp # command to incorporate /tmp/dump$$.tmp into the pop3 filter script # You already know how to do this don't you? rm -f /tmp/maildump$$.tmp /tmp/dump$$.tmp exit 0 end maildump ## Once this returns, mutt sees that the temporary file it used for the message hasn't changed and just "aborts unmodified message" which is just the desired effect. Since forwarding includes the original incoming "From" and "Subject" headers we'll pick them up just after the "Forwarded message" line. My problem here has been not knowing *quite* how to set the send-hook correctly. With the example quoted above, the editor variable gets left as "~/bin/maildump" for ordinary mails but if I include a default send-hook for "set editor", it gets used even for "bitbucket" mails which should trigger the "bitbucket" send-hook. I used send-hook . set editor="vim +\'set tw=74\' +\'/^$\'" send-hook bitbucket set editor="~/bin/maildump" but the default hook gets used for all mails. I thought I would solve it by using the following: send-hook !bitbucket@localhost set editor="vim +\'set tw=74\' +\'/^$\'" send-hook bitbucket@localhost set editor="~/bin/maildump" but that wouldn't behave correctly with the "set tw=74" for the default editor command so I used: send-hook !bitbucket@localhost source ~/.muttrc which contains (among other stuff): set editor="vim +'set tw=74' +'/^$'" as the default editor. A bit crude and kludgey but it works. ### So, in summary, ~/.muttrc contains the following: set editor="vim +'set tw=74' +'/^$'" send-hook !bitbucket@localhost source ~/.muttrc send-hook bitbucket@localhost set editor="~/bin/maildump" macro index escD forward-messagebitbucket@localhostenter macro pager escD forward-messagebitbucket@localhostenter using escD on a message will "forward" the message to ~/bin/maildump for processing. This will extract the "From" and "Subject" lines and push them to a .conf file for the pop3 filter script and will then return unmodified to mutt which will just discard the "forwarded" message. The exact method of extraction of the necessary info is left as an exercise for the reader (Marco :-) who will then post the full set of scripts (won't you?) 'cos I don't know any perl to go hacking the pop filter. feature request for perl pop filter A nice method to check for message size and get headers only but leave the message on the server for later review. OH! Could you get the "body" and leave the attachments on the server? Probably not. /feature request for perl pop filter Howsat? Conor -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-) - faenor.cod.ie 9:21pm up 102 days, 3:50, 0 users, load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.01 Hobbiton.cod.ie 9:19pm up 7 days, 11:08, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.00, 0.00
Re: Selecting headers to delete on pop3 server
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 03:30:54PM -0600 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Aaron Schrab thought: At 15:27 -0600 02 Feb 2001, I wrote: macro pager X '| formail -XFrom: -XSubject: -XMessage-ID: some_file\n' macro index X '| formail -XFrom: -XSubject: -XMessage-ID: some_file\n' Oops, need to use double quotes not single qoutes there: macro pager X "| formail -XFrom: -XSubject: -XMessage-ID: some_file\n" macro index X "| formail -XFrom: -XSubject: -XMessage-ID: some_file\n" Now you're just getting fancy on me! :-) -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-) - faenor.cod.ie 11:05pm up 102 days, 5:34, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.02 Hobbiton.cod.ie 11:03pm up 7 days, 12:52, 2 users, load average: 0.12, 0.05, 0.01
Using urlview for FTP?
Just noticed, that my urlview launched mozilla to view the below ftp type URLs. Does anyone know how to have urlview launch wget for FTP and mozilla for HTTP? man urlview says nothing. Maybe I need a binding in mutt insteadi? ftp://updates.redhat.com/6.2/i386/bind-8.2.3-0.6.x.i386.rpm ftp://updates.redhat.com/6.2/i386/bind-utils-8.2.3-0.6.x.i386.rpm -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-) - faenor.cod.ie 1:16pm up 98 days, 19:44, 0 users, load average: 0.02, 0.13, 0.08 Hobbiton.cod.ie 1:12pm up 4 days, 3:01, 2 users, load average: 0.06, 0.03, 0.00
Re: Using urlview for FTP?
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 10:00:10AM -0600 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Jeff Howie thought: On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 01:13:41PM +, Conor Daly wrote: Just noticed, that my urlview launched mozilla to view the below ftp type URLs. Does anyone know how to have urlview launch wget for FTP and mozilla for HTTP? man urlview says nothing. Maybe I need a binding in mutt insteadi? Just edit the COMMAND line in your ~/.urlview file to something like this: COMMAND wget '%s' -- thks.jeff But will that not call wget for HTTP URLs also? -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-) - faenor.cod.ie 4:09pm up 98 days, 22:38, 0 users, load average: 0.00, 0.06, 0.08 Hobbiton.cod.ie 4:06pm up 4 days, 5:55, 1 user, load average: 0.06, 0.03, 0.00
Re: Using urlview for FTP?
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 11:59:03AM -0500 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Dan Boger thought: On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 08:47:20AM -0800, Ben Reser wrote: Not possible right now. urlview only knows how to use one program. You can use the COMMAND option in the .urlview file to change from netscape to another program but you can set one for ftp and one for http... unless you write a wrapper script, put it as your COMMAND, and have it check if it's an ftp url, or a https? url, or whatever... I was thinking of something like that until Dave Ewart mentioned how urlview 1.9 (comes with RH7) has a url_handler.sh script that handles different url types nicely. Just need to install a decent imap server and start muttering from a client instead of rsh'ing to the server. Thanks -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-) - faenor.cod.ie 7:43pm up 99 days, 2:11, 0 users, load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.01 Hobbiton.cod.ie 7:39pm up 4 days, 9:28, 2 users, load average: 0.08, 0.14, 0.09
IMAP folder hooks and other troubles
I run mutt (1.0.1i) on a local mail host (using mbox mailboxes)and use a number
of folder hooks as follows:
folder-hook =Lists/Mutt-users 'macro index leftchange-folder?tab9enter'
This works fine. I now try to use mutt (1.2.5i) over imap to the same box and have
the following folder hook
folder-hook '{hobbiton}Mail/Lists/Mutt-users' 'macro index
leftchange-folder?tab10enter'
where {hobbiton}Mail/Lists/Mutt-users in the browser gets me into the
correct mailbox. Ths folder hook doesn't work, in fact, I get errors on
startup
Invalid content of \{\}
for the line in question. If I define the macro without the folder hook,
it works fine. If if define the folder hook like:
folder-hook Mail/Lists/Mutt-users 'macro indexleftchange-folder?tab10enter'
mutt accepts the folder hook but doesn't act on it. Any ideas?
Second problem. I'm using imap-4.7-5 on the server and am getting
irritating delays accessing email. I'm in a folder and hit tab for the
next unread. Sometimes I get it almost instantly while other times (I'm
thinking a folder refresh or something here), it takes up to 30 seconds or
so and I get these two messages:
Message 1425 UID 468 less than 1425
Message 168 UID 3481 greater than last 170
Mean anything to anyone? Better imap server? I don't get such delays
using M$ Outlook Express from the same client box to the same server for
the same user.
TIA
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Re: IMAP: marking messages for deletion
On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 02:19:48AM - or thereabouts, Brendan Cully wrote: On Friday, 19 January 2001 at 13:05, Brian J. Murrell wrote: On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 07:07:19PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nils Vogels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Brian J. Murrell ! Hi Nils, I am not 100% sure, but wouldn't the sync-mailbox (by default binded to '$') take care of that ? Not really. What I want to do is *mark* a message deleted but not actually purge (EXPUNGE in IMAP parlance) it from the mailbox. I want this not only for survival of a Mutt session (start mutt, mark messages deleted, quit, restart mutt and it be remembered -- using IMAP mechanisms) but I want others in a shared folder to see the deletes as they happen. Well, if you sync but don't say yes to the "purge deleted messages?" question, you should get the effect you're looking for. Using IMAP, when I exit a mailbox to enter another, I get asked do I want to purge deleted messages. I assume therefore that the mailboxes are synced on exit yes? Of course, "exit and say no to purge" doesn't work for me, I delete a message, exit the mailbox and say no to "Purge?". When I reenter the mailbox, the deleted message is still there but is not marked as deleted! Worse still, I delete a message, sync and say "no" and the message shows as deleted. Then I exit the mailbox, say "no" to "Purge?", on reentry (assuming I don't burn up in the atmosphere :-) the message is still there and no longer deleted! Using M$ Exchange as IMAP server (out of my control you see!). -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275 12:10pm up 2 min, 2 users, load average: 0.44, 0.30, 0.11
Re: Attaching multiple files
On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 11:31:26AM +0100 or thereabouts, Frank Naumann wrote: Hello Roel, On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 11:09:10AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Can someone tell me how to select multiple files to attache to a mail? Now, I have to select all files one by one, but there must be an easier way, right? in the browser mark (tag) every file with t and then hit ; for tag-action, then hit enter. Compose message / a for attach / TAB / t to select and I get "Tagging not supported" That's using mutt 1.01 Can't see a way to delete an attachment either! -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275 12:50pm up 42 min, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Re: binding synchronise mailbox function
On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 12:33:51PM +0100 or thereabouts, Eric Smith wrote: I want to bind the `$' command to the space key. Is it possible to bind the mailbox synchronise function? But all of these gave an error viz: :bind index space sync_mailbox sync_mailbox: no such function in map Try :bind index space sync -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275 12:55pm up 47 min, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Re: delete ???
On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 12:59:27PM +0100 or thereabouts, Michael Seiwert wrote: Hi, how could I mark mails starting with 'root.' and then delete all the mails starting with 'root' ? T (SHIFT t) root ENTER (Tags all messages containing "root") ;d (Deletes tagged messages There's probably some expr for "at the start" but I don't know it off-hand CTRLt . (untags everything) -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275 12:56pm up 48 min, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Re: binding synchronise mailbox function
On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 01:41:39PM + or thereabouts, Dave Pearson wrote: On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 12:55:46PM +, Conor Daly wrote: Try :bind index space sync Mutt doesn't appear to have such a function. Did you mean `sync-mailbox'? Um, yes... -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275 3:18pm up 22 min, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.02
Re: Moving mail to another mailbox
On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 05:08:24PM +0300 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Vitaly A. Repin thought: On Sat, Jan 20, 2001 at 03:03:31PM +0100, Jeroen Valcke wrote: very simple obvious task. How can I move messages to another folder. I read something of a copy command (C) but nothing of a move command. By tagging the messages I would be able to move a bunch of msgs to another mailbox, right? Yes. You should tag the messags you like, press ";" key, and after this press "s" key. It seems to me, this is what you need. Also, you can use the "d" command to delete message from the mailbox. You can do this command with ";" prefix too. -- WBR WBW, Vitaly. Interestingly, I don't seem to need the ";" when using 'd', 'C', 'N' on tagged messages. It happens automatically. I'm using [cdaly@Hobbiton cdaly]$ mutt -v Mutt 1.0.1i (2000-01-18) Copyright (C) 1996-2000 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: Linux 2.2.14-5.0 [using slang 10202] Compile options: -DOMAIN -HOMESPOOL -USE_SETGID -USE_DOTLOCK +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK +USE_IMAP +USE_GSS +USE_POP +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_GPG -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS +ENABLE_NLS SENDMAIL="/usr/sbin/sendmail" MAILPATH="/var/spool/mail" SHAREDIR="/var/tmp/mutt-root/etc" SYSCONFDIR="/var/tmp/mutt-root/etc" -ISPELL _PGPPATH="/usr/bin/gpg" _PGPGPGPATH="/usr/bin/gpg" To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-) - faenor.cod.ie 9:05pm up 89 days, 3:33, 0 users, load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.02 Hobbiton.cod.ie 9:02pm up 4 days, 21:21, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Re: how to toggle-signature display in pager?
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:51:58PM -0500 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, mike polniak thought: Many of the signatures are getting larger than the informational part of the message. I would like to remove this clutter from the pager with something like "toggle-signature" which would be analogous to toggling the display of quoted material in the message with toggle-quoted. Anyone have a ready solution for this new "toggle-signature" function? You could try color signature black black in .muttrc. You'll get lots of empty lines for long sigs but, at least, no text clutter You dould bind a key to that and another to display the sig with some other colours. -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-) - 9:44am up 3 days, 10:03, 1 user, load average: 0.19, 0.20, 0.10
Re: attaching multiple files with edit-headers
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 09:06:53AM + or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Dave Pearson thought: On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 09:37:10PM +, Conor Daly wrote: OTOH, I did a little script that checks for "attach" style keywords in your message and then checks for a "content disposition attachment" type line in the message and if it doesn't find one, pop's up an xmessage to ask if you want to send without an attachment. The emacs junkies out there might also like to note that the emacs mutt mode (as in mail editing mode, not the mode for editing muttrc files) has a similar feature. In fact, I got asked about this message since it says "attach" above and doesn't have an attachment. Cool eh? Now, I'd have been more impressed if it had known that you didn't want to attach anything in this case. ; That would be so cool as to be deep-frozen! However, it can be configured to use *any* keywords you like. I use "attach" and "include" to cover "attached", "Attachment" etc and "include" and "included". You could limit it to checking for the word "attachment" or "attached" only in which case it would still have triggered for my message above but would give fewer false alarms otherwise. I haven't tried configuring with phrases (eg. "I've attached" or "I'm sending" etc) and I'm not sure what the result would be but I kinda think it will work. Incidentally, I'm always surprised when it *does* trigger so there are very few false alarms anyhow. -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-) - 12:42pm up 2 days, 13:01, 1 user, load average: 0.10, 0.05, 0.05
Re: attaching multiple files with edit-headers
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 07:07:57PM +0100 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Axel Bichler thought: Hi Conor! * Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010118 09:37]: OTOH, I did a little script that checks for "attach" style keywords in your message and then checks for a "content disposition attachment" type line in the message and if it doesn't find one, pop's up an xmessage to ask if you want to send without an attachment. I haven't posted the script but if anyone wants to try it out, just holler! YES! Sorry for yelling, but you asked to holler :-) Perhaps you could find a place on your home page? Thanks and regards, Axel Perhaps I could find a homepage! I'll post it to geocities later and post a URL to the list. -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-) - 7:56pm up 2 days, 20:15, 1 user, load average: 0.14, 0.06, 0.01
Trapping missing attachments (was: Re: attaching multiple files with edit-headers)
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 07:57:18PM + or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Conor Daly thought: On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 07:07:57PM +0100 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Axel Bichler thought: Hi Conor! * Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010118 09:37]: OTOH, I did a little script that checks for "attach" style keywords in your message and then checks for a "content disposition attachment" type line in the message and if it doesn't find one, pop's up an xmessage to ask if you want to send without an attachment. I haven't posted the script but if anyone wants to try it out, just holler! YES! Sorry for yelling, but you asked to holler :-) Perhaps you could find a place on your home page? Thanks and regards, Axel Perhaps I could find a homepage! I'll post it to geocities later and post a URL to the list. mutt-attach-check.tgz is now available at www.geocities.com/conor_daly It will check for specified (by the user) words or phrases in your email and check for an attachment to go with them. If no attachemnt os found, you'll get asked what to do... Enjoy! -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-) - 1:12am up 3 days, 1:31, 3 users, load average: 0.05, 0.02, 0.00
Re: attaching multiple files with edit-headers
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 05:03:30PM + or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Dave Pearson thought: On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 05:21:02PM +0200, Eric Smith wrote: And now the question: Is it possible to attach more than a single file in this way? Yes. Have one Attach: header for each file you want to attach. OTOH, I did a little script that checks for "attach" style keywords in your message and then checks for a "content disposition attachment" type line in the message and if it doesn't find one, pop's up an xmessage to ask if you want to send without an attachment. I haven't posted the script but if anyone wants to try it out, just holler! In fact, I got asked about this message since it says "attach" above and doesn't have an attachment. Cool eh? -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-) - 9:33pm up 1 day, 21:52, 1 user, load average: 0.02, 0.01, 0.00
Re: automatically move old mail?
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 07:20:13PM -0800 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Mike E thought: * sVennieboy ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I was wondering if it is possible to automatically move "old" mail (say, older than a month) from my inbox to a different folder (inbox.old for example). Pine does this, and I think it's usefull to prevent my HD filling up with old mail (and not having to delete every mail myself). I don't know of any way to do this w/ just mutt, but you could easly write a script to do it. Check out some of the many CPAN modules (for perl) that allow you to do complex operations on mailspools: http://cpan.valueclick.com/modules/by-category/19_Mail_and_Usenet_News/Mail/ Mike I can do it (assuming, that is, that a macro can pause for input though) macro index esc-A tag-pattern[pause for input here, looks like ~d -dd/mm]copy-message=Archive/mbox.oldenterdelete-messageresync Can a macro pause for input? I suspect not -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-) - 10:37am up 4 days, 17:45, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
Re: Escape to index on delete?
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 06:51:52PM -0600 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Jeff Howie thought: Hi all. I'd like to be able to set the 'd' in the pager to exit me back to the index after deleting the message, instead of reading the next message. I've searched through the help, and found 'resolve', but turning that off doesn't do it. I've played around with setting a macro , but no matter what I try I can't make it work. Any ideas? -- thks.jeff what about macro pager d quitdelete-message should do it. -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-) - 12:48pm up 2 days, 19:56, 1 user, load average: 0.03, 0.05, 0.00
Re: New mail detection
On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 11:23:25PM +0100 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Nikolai Prokoschenko thought: Hi! I'm sad - the detection of new mail is not working anymore :(( The worst thing is - I can't even imagine, what might have gone wrong. Can I somehow see, which mailboxes are being watched by Mutt? I have a typical line "mailboxes `ls /home/nikolai/Mail/Mails/*`" in my .muttrc, but still - new mails are not detected. Can someone help? Ask for further info, if you need it... Best regards, Nikolai. I'm getting similar but *only* for my ~/mbox which is my default inbox used by procmail. my mailboxes line in .muttrc is actually a script which outputs the following: =Archive =Home/Family =Home/Self =Lists/ILUG/Archive =Lists/ILUG/Social =Lists/ILUG/edu =Lists/ILUG/main =Lists/Mailman =Lists/Mutt-users =Lists/linuxchix =Met-Eireann/MetEireann =Met-Eireann/North =subscriptions ~/mbox The script sorts the folders and creates folder hooks that make the browser select whichever mailbox I'm currently looking at rather than the first each time which is why I have the script rather than a plain mailboxes line. Anyhow, ~/mbox doesn't get checked for new mail while others do. -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-) - 6:40pm up 1 day, 1:48, 1 user, load average: 0.21, 0.08, 0.02
Re: Extra line added on edit message
exit 0 unless (defined($ARGV[0]) defined($ARGV[1])); Does perl use the usual convention of "argv[0]" is the name the script/program was called with or sometrhing different (The line above suggests different to me)? TIA -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-) - 10:40pm up 11 days, 10:28, 1 user, load average: 0.19, 0.11, 0.03
Re: Installation of Mutt
On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 10:44:51AM -0600 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Sharon Blair thought: I have installed Mutt on SCO Openserver 5.02. When I try to execute Mutt I get this error " dynamic linker : mutt : error opening /usr/local/lib/libncurses.so.4 Killed". I feel that I need something else installed because this file doesn't exist. Any clues or answers? Sharon Blair Yeah, cirses libraries for the console layout stuff. No idea where to get then for SCO though (or for any other OS for that matter!) -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-) - 10:43pm up 11 days, 10:31, 1 user, load average: 0.10, 0.09, 0.03
Re: feature-request: delayed resubmission, follow-up
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 12:16:58PM +0100 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Heinrich Langos thought: so the question that remains is: how do i prompt a user in mutt for input and use that input in the macro? Best I've done is to use xmessage and get the return from the buttons pressed but that only allows pre-defined answers which won't work here. Perhaps a little TCL/TK app to ask for typed input or a set of buttons to create the time from eg. 0h 1h 2h ... 00m 05m 10m 15m ... Pass it on if you do eh? I could use something like that at a later date. -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-) - 12:53pm up 2 days, 41 min, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00
Re: index_format: ANSI colors
On Fri, Dec 15, 2000 at 03:34:23PM + or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Bjornar Ness thought: Hello fellow mutt users. I want to colorize my index a bit more. How do I do this? Tried with some ansi sequences.. did not work, why? I think it would be great to be able to do this. Depends on the sort of colourising you mean. I use the "color" command to set up my index. The following set colours: * Unread mails addressed _directly_ to me Bright Yellow * Unread mails from lists Bright Red * Read mails from lists magenta * Mails I've replied to Bright Blue * All other mails are Yellow * The highlight bar is bright Yellow on Blue color index yellow default "~A" color index magenta default "~l" color index brightyellow default "~N" color index brightred default "~N~l" color index brightblue default "~Q" color indicator brightyellow blue Is that what you mean? And one more thing.. mutt really needs a simple, yet powerful to/from/cc/?? procmailrc frontend. Nice for all of us I think. Could work allmost like the a(lias) command. That would be pretty all right... -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-) - 10:09pm up 14 days, 6 min, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00
Re: Can't modify mail folders after upgrade to 1.2.5
On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 07:00:42AM -0800 or thereabouts, David Alban wrote: Conor, At 2000/12/10/05:21 + Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Silly thought, but permissions? On the "Mail" directory perhaps. Anything to do with the ncurses library being in user space. Thanks, but I don't experience the problem with 0.95.4, to which I still have access. Just with 1.2.5. On the other hand, maybe this makes a difference: the 0.95.4 installation is a system installation and, this being my friend's machine, my upgrade is a user installation (--prefix=$HOME). The perms on my version 1.2.5 executables in $HOME/bin are: -rwxr-xr-x 1 albanalban 29812 Dec 10 01:22 mutt_dotlock -rwxr-xr-x 1 albanalban 77639 Dec 10 01:22 pgpring -rwxr-xr-x 1 albanalban 274 Dec 10 01:22 pgpewrap -rwxr-xr-x 1 albanalban6702 Dec 10 01:22 muttbug -rwxr-xr-x 1 albanalban 1181061 Dec 10 01:22 mutt Do I need any setuid or setgid perms for a user install? Dunno but the manpage for mutt_dotlock says; HISTORY dotlock is part of the Mutt mail user agent package. It has been created to avoid running mutt with group mail privileges. This kinda suggests that mutt itself shouldn't need any special permissions but that maybe mutt_dotlock does. It mentions something about running with group mail privileges also. Maybe try symlinking $HOME/bin/mutt_dotlock to the version in /usr/bin if it exists. The above is just thoughts bouncing around in my skull. If it breaks, you get to keep the bits... -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275 10:58pm up 13 min, 4 users, load average: 0.04, 0.05, 0.05
Re: Can't modify mail folders after upgrade to 1.2.5
On Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 06:13:55PM -0800 or thereabouts, David Alban wrote: At 2000/12/09/15:43 -0600 Timothy Legant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just did more testing. It seems I can't update any mail folders. If I mark a message for deletion, whether by using 'd' or 's', as soon as I try to commit the changes, whether by using 'q' or '$', I get a segfault core dump. So it seems that I can't modify mail folders. Help! Silly thought, but permissions? On the "Mail" directory perhaps. Anything to do with the ncurses library being in user space. (Random mutterings going on in the back of my head at Sun Dec 10 05:19:29 GMT 2000 -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275
Re: folder-hooks with IMAP mailboxes?
On Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 09:06:29PM -0500 or thereabouts, Tabor J. Wells wrote:
On Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 08:01:29PM +,
Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] is thought to have said:
Ah, got it!
use
folder-hook INBOX.mutt-users set sort=thread
instead so long as the folder appears in your .muttrc.
Doesn't work for me with 1.3.11i.
From my .muttrc:
mailboxes ! {server}INBOX.mutt-users
^
What's the exclamation mark for.
folder-hook INBOX.mutt-users set sort=thread
and it still defaults to date-received
--
Conor Daly
Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland
Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275
Re: folder-hooks with IMAP mailboxes?
On Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 07:53:33PM + or so it is rumoured hereabouts,
Conor Daly thought:
On Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 12:31:28PM -0500 or so it is rumoured hereabouts,
Bob Bell thought:
On Sun, Nov 26, 2000 at 04:06:04PM -0500, Tabor J. Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would have expected that:
folder-hook {hostname}INBOX.mutt-users set sort=thread
would work, but that apparantly is not the case. Any suggestions on what I'm
missing?
Here's a few folder-hooks that I have set:
folder-hook . set pager_index_lines=10
folder-hook "!$" set pager_index_lines=4
folder-hook "!$" 'uncolor index "~C bobbell"'
folder-hook "!.mutt" 'color index red default "~f Roessler"'
Could you post what your imap folders look like?
Ie. How do you translate "!.mutt" to
"{server}Mail/whatever/the/mailbox/name/is"
TIA
Conor Daly
Ah, got it!
use
folder-hook INBOX.mutt-users set sort=thread
instead so long as the folder appears in your .muttrc.
Conor Daly
Re: folder-hooks with IMAP mailboxes?
On Mon, Nov 27, 2000 at 12:31:28PM -0500 or so it is rumoured hereabouts,
Bob Bell thought:
On Sun, Nov 26, 2000 at 04:06:04PM -0500, Tabor J. Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would have expected that:
folder-hook {hostname}INBOX.mutt-users set sort=thread
would work, but that apparantly is not the case. Any suggestions on what I'm
missing?
Here's a few folder-hooks that I have set:
folder-hook . set pager_index_lines=10
folder-hook "!$" set pager_index_lines=4
folder-hook "!$" 'uncolor index "~C bobbell"'
folder-hook "!.mutt" 'color index red default "~f Roessler"'
Could you post what your imap folders look like?
Ie. How do you translate "!.mutt" to
"{server}Mail/whatever/the/mailbox/name/is"
TIA
Conor Daly
Re: piping executing external commands (STDIN)
On Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 09:58:14PM -0800 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Gary Johnson thought: I _did_ try redirecting input from whatever tty I was on at the time but unsucessfully. It apeared to me that, since mutt was running in the same tty, _it_ was intercepting keyboard input rather than my script. Well, if your program was running in the background at the same time mutt was running in the foreground, then you would have trouble reading from the tty. When I've done that inadvertently, each program seems to get about half the keystrokes, every other keystroke going to a different program. Otherwise, as long as mutt is suspended waiting for your program to finish before it continues, you should be able to redirect your program's stdin from the tty without any problem. Maybe if you could provide more details of exactly what you did and exactly how it failed, we might be able to figure out a solution. Will delve and post -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-)
Re: piping executing external commands (STDIN)
On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 11:23:35AM -0800 or so it is rumoured hereabouts,
Gary Johnson thought:
On Fri, Nov 17, 2000 at 01:09:16AM +, Conor Daly wrote:
On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 04:25:20PM -0500 or so it is rumoured hereabouts,
Jorg Ziefle thought:
I want to pipe a message from within Mutt to a Perl program, which not
only processes it, but as well reads some user input from STDIN. As far
as I know, the pipe-message command ('|') only allows to _write_ the
message to STDOUT, but then returns immediately (as its name suggests).
So, is there a possibilty to achieve printing to a message to an
external program which is then executed _before_ returning to Mutt?
I've fought that fight before and AFAIK, there's no way to catch stdin
from mutt. It *is* possible to capture input from the current tty with
the $THIS_TTY variable. Just do a "read SOMETHING $THIS_TTY" but mutt
handles anything that comes in on *its* tty and so this isn't possible
here.
I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to do here. I _think_ you
want to pipe a message to some command, then query the user for some
parameters before processing the message, then process the message, and
finally return to mutt. If so, then yes, you _can_ do this with mutt
and a shell script around your external program. Here's an example
using 'fold' just for concreteness.
cat /tmp/mutt_tmp_file# Save stdin.
exec /dev/tty # Redirect stdin from the terminal.
echo "Enter page width:"
read width
fold -w $width /tmp/mutt_tmp_file
rm -f /tmp/mutt_tmp_file
If you save this script as 'mutt_fold', then pipe your message from mutt
as
|mutt_fold
the script will query you for the page width, then send the folded
output to stdout. Is that what you wanted to do?
Gary
--
Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | RF Communications Product Generation Unit
| Spokane, Washington, USA
That's the idea allright, in my case I want to check did I _actually_
attach that file that I said I attached in the outgoing mail. Now, what
is /dev/tty ? Is it different if I'm in an xterm than if I'm at a
console? I _did_ try redirecting input from whatever tty I was on at the
time but unsucessfully. It apeared to me that, since mutt was running in
the same tty, _it_ was intercepting keyboard input rather than my script.
--
Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Domestic Sysadmin :-)
Re: piping executing external commands (STDIN)
On Thu, Nov 16, 2000 at 04:25:20PM -0500 or so it is rumoured hereabouts,
Jorg Ziefle thought:
I want to pipe a message from within Mutt to a Perl program, which not
only processes it, but as well reads some user input from STDIN. As far
as I know, the pipe-message command ('|') only allows to _write_ the
message to STDOUT, but then returns immediately (as its name suggests).
So, is there a possibilty to achieve printing to a message to an
external program which is then executed _before_ returning to Mutt?
I've fought that fight before and AFAIK, there's no way to catch stdin
from mutt. It *is* possible to capture input from the current tty with
the $THIS_TTY variable. Just do a "read SOMETHING $THIS_TTY" but mutt
handles anything that comes in on *its* tty and so this isn't possible
here.
:-(
--
Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Domestic Sysadmin :-)
Re: sending mail and a copy saved to sent-mail...
On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 09:08:30PM - or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Dan Boger thought: On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 12:28:06PM -0800, Luke Ravitch wrote: Cool. I like to compress my archived sent mail, though. I just have: nod, I do that too, only gpg it in the proccess. do you use the +COMPRESSED patch to mutt, so it could read the compressed folders on the fly? :) I hope you use a different key each month. That way, when the courts come looking for your gpg key(s) you don't have to hand over the key(s) to your *entire* set of encrypted data. -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-)
Re: what is the change folder command offering?
On Fri, Nov 10, 2000 at 07:21:09PM -0600 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Aaron Schrab thought: At 21:18 + 10 Nov 2000, Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I'd like to see is some way to mark a folder as containing unread messages after I've read some (but not all) of the messages therein. Mutt will list folders that use the maildir format as containing new mail as long as there are messages that are marked as new. I'm using mbox here. What I find is that when procmail stuffs a new message into one of my folders, it gets marked as new and shows as such in mutt but if I open that folder, read some but not all of the new messages and change to another folder, the new flag is unset for that folder. I might find myself scanning the various folders to see if there's anything urgent / interesting for immediate reading and want to come back later to read the rest but I have to remember which of the ten or more folders I need to review. For example, I can do a touch -m Mailbox/name which will mark it as new for mutt but I cannot do that for the current folder/mailbox from within mutt. What I'd like is some way to either have mutt do it automatically or set up some macro to do it (can I execute a shell script with a macro and what do I use to pass the current mailbox name to the script?). TIA -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-)
Re: what is the change folder command offering?
On Fri, Nov 10, 2000 at 10:56:51AM -0600 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Jeff Howie thought: Hi all. I've noticed that while browsing through my directory that contains Usenet mail-list postings (created vi procmail to mbox format), that when I'm finished reading one box and hit 'c' to change to the next unread one, mutt offers a default box. This box is alway one of the other boxes in the directory that contains new messages. Once I've browsed through all of the boxes, then hitting 'c' doesn't offer a default choice anymore, indicating that I've finished reading all the new messages. This is obviously a feature of mutt, and I think it's _GREAT_, but what exactly is the logic of what's going on here. There's no detail in the docs regarding this behavior that I can find. thks.jeff AFAIK, it's the order in which the mailboxes are specified with the "mailboxes" line(s) in .muttrc. What I'd like to see is some way to mark a folder as containing unread messages after I've read some (but not all) of the messages therein. -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-)
Re: Latest stable mutt?
On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 08:38:43AM + or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Chris Green thought: On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 08:28:42PM +, Conor Daly wrote: Er, too lazy to go online by hand to find out what's the latest _stable_ mutt. Anyone care to tell me? PS. I like IMAP... Current mutt is 1.0.1 and is *extremely* slow over imap between two RH6.2 boxen on a small 10BaseT LAN. It behaves better at work from RH6.2 to M$ Exchange on a much bigger 10BaseT LAN. The simplest thing to do is to go to ftp.mutt.org and take a look, it'll be version 1.2.x. Alternatively take a look at the mutt web page which will also tell you the latest stable version. I know, just being too lazy to go online at the time and my mail gets queued for the next automatic send anyhow. Probably a bit inconsiderate asking the thousands(?) of users on the list instead of just going and looking though eh? Thanks all, -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-)
Re: IMAP blues
On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 11:18:25PM +0530 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Suresh Ramasubramanian thought: Brendan Cully proclaimed on mutt-users that: sendmail setup. Unfortunately there are a lot of variables there, and I'm no expert either. Maybe someone else can help you with sendmail. http://cork.linux.ie - script for configuring sendmail for use over a dialup -- Suresh Ramasubramanian + Wallopus Malletus Indigenensis mallet @ cluestick.org + Lumber Cartel of India, tinlcI Benson's Dogma: ASCII is our god, and Unix is his profit. Works for LAN setups also... -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-)
Latest stable mutt?
Er, too lazy to go online by hand to find out what's the latest _stable_ mutt. Anyone care to tell me? PS. I like IMAP... Current mutt is 1.0.1 and is *extremely* slow over imap between two RH6.2 boxen on a small 10BaseT LAN. It behaves better at work from RH6.2 to M$ Exchange on a much bigger 10BaseT LAN. -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-)
[OT] Re: Mutt + Screen + Vim question
On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 05:25:02PM -0800 or thereabouts, Brian D. Winters wrote: solution I'm suggesting has absolutely nothing to do with mutt and everything to do with screen. Mutt can't do what you think you want it to do. You need to tell screen you want a new screen, and you want to run mutt in that new screen. What's the advantage of using screen over the ALTF1 - ALTF6 consoles? Can screen be used remotely or something? -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275
Re: colouring incomming mail
On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 05:44:05AM - or thereabouts, Darrin Mison wrote: alright!! everyday I discover another reason why mutt totally rules. Does anybody know how I can give mail originating from a certain user a different colour in my index ? Something like: color index magenta default "~f 'Johan Huis'" Or even... color index black black "~f 'My Boss'" :-) -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275
Re: isp smtp
On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 12:33:42AM +0530 or thereabouts, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Using a large mallet, Conor Daly whacked out: Or see Donncha O'Caoimh's Install-Sendmail script to get you fully set up in about 10 minutes. http://members.xoom.com/xeer/software/index.html#sendmail Isnt there a mirror of this at http://cork.linux.ie ? So thepre is.. So there is... -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275
Re: isp smtp
On Sat, Oct 28, 2000 at 09:18:13AM +0530 or thereabouts, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Rafael A. Schmitt [Saturday, October 28, 2000 8:12 AM]: it 's possible configure mutt to send my e-mail through my isp smtp? i have a dial-up conection.how can i configure that?? You have to configure your sendmail (or whatever mta you are running on your desktop) to smarthost through your ISP's mailserver. DS your.isps.smtp.server o Set HoldExpensive=True See http://linuxindia.virtualave.net/vsnlcon.html for more. Or see Donncha O'Caoimh's Install-Sendmail script to get you fully set up in about 10 minutes. http://members.xoom.com/xeer/software/index.html#sendmail -s (on vacation, using outlook and hating it) :( Poor Baby! -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275
Re: Fighting with M$ Exchange!
On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 05:29:00PM +0100 or thereabouts, Nils Vogels wrote: Hi Michael Tatge ! On Sat 07 Oct 2000 (16:14), you muttered on the list: Nils Vogels muttered: On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 03:56:44AM +, Conor Daly wrote: My only problem though is that I must boot Windows and use M$ Outlook to set up/ change mail filters. Has anyone seen a Linux-based tool for creating / modifying M$ Exchange rules? If you find anything like that, please let the list know .. I doubt if it's out there tho .. There is a tool named vmware :) Which only has like 200MB overhead .. to change filters, that's just too much to me for only 1 functionality :) Interesting, has anyone tried running M$ Outlook in WINE? -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275
mailboxes (was Re: spamfilter for procmail)
On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 04:09:05PM -0700 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Michael Elkins thought: I'll just add my $0.02US to this and agree with Bruce's example. After spending lots of time trying to weed out spammers, I found the most effective filter was to simple accept all known addresses and everything else goes into a spam folder. Nearly all the spam I receive is not addressed to me or one of the mailing lists I subscribe to. You just have to remember to read your spam folder every once in a while. I actually have a +spam at the end of my `mailboxes' line in my .muttrc to remind me I have mail waiting there. me Incidentally, does anyone know of a way to cycle through the list of folders with new mail on the "c" command. for instance, my Work-related mailboxes are listed before the lists in .muttrc but there's times when I'm expecting a response to a question sent to a list and I'd like a tab key or something to cycle through which mailboxes have new mail. See? :-) -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-)
Re: mailboxes (was Re: spamfilter for procmail)
On Tue, Oct 17, 2000 at 03:16:10PM +0300 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Mikko Hänninen thought: Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 17 Oct 2000: Incidentally, does anyone know of a way to cycle through the list of folders with new mail on the "c" command. You mean, like space does? OOOHHH!! Thanks -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-)
Re: How can I use mutt on disconnected laptops?
On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 10:25:47AM -0400 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Bob Bell thought: On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 12:30:55PM +0100, Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking have having the laptop nfs share the mailfolders to the desktop, since I assume that the laptop will always be with him... OK, that's fine so long as the desktop machine *isn't* receiving mail while the laptop is away. My home server collects email about 6 times per day whether I'm there or not so that wouldn't work for me Well, as long as the home server is the only machine receiving mail (i.e., you don't check with your laptop, too), you could keep your downloaded mail and folders on your laptop and export them as an NFS share to your desktop (as mentioned). To handle mail that arrives when the laptop is disconnected, try running a home machine as a POP3 server, and then use fetchmail to get all new mail to the laptop when connected. To check mail at home, make sure the laptop is up-to-date (i.e., has run fetchmail recently) and then check mail normally, which will access your mail folders on your laptop. Nice, elegant, OH NO! I left the laptop at work!!! What now?? Perhaps run an imap daemon and access that with the desktop if the laptop isn't available... -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-)
Re: newbie? How to view mutt error messages.
On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 08:57:30PM -0200 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Rod Pike thought: Greetings, Newbie question When I start ( and quit ) mutt there are sometimes error messages a the bottom of the screen that flash up and then are gone. Is there a log that I can look at that contains these messages so I can debug my setup? do a mutt 2~/mutt-errs That will redirect error messages to the file mutt-errs in your home directory. -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-)
Re: Composing a draft?
On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 10:20:06AM +0530 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Suresh Ramasubramanian thought: Bob Bell proclaimed on mutt-users that: Just open another mutt session. Unlike many mail editors, you can have multiple instances of mutt running at the same time. However, mailbox flags get modified when you do this - especially with mbox folders. A better thing to do is to use something like gvim or emacs as the editor (both of which pop up in different terms from the mutt window, and multiple sessions of which can be opened leaving your mutt xterm free) Of course, on a console, this means some tedious shifting between alt-f1, alt-f2 ... virtual consoles ;) I don't think this would work. mutt sits waiting for the editor to return before sending the mail. If you use gvim which detaches itself from mutt, mutt decides that you've abandoned the message and aborts the send. To make mutt use gvim you need to use something like set editor='gvim -e' which tells gvim to remain within the current process until it exits rather than detaching from its parent immediately. -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-)
Re: How can I use mutt on disconnected laptops?
On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 08:44:28PM -0400 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Dan Boger thought: On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 08:44:58PM +0100, Conor Daly wrote: another way to go at it, and this also works only if there's only one machine that is getting the mail, is just put the mailfolder (or the maildir) in an nfs share... That'll only work while the laptop is connected. He wants to work on his email while roaming with the laptop and have all the folders kept in sync. I was thinking have having the laptop nfs share the mailfolders to the desktop, since I assume that the laptop will always be with him... :) OK, that's fine so long as the desktop machine *isn't* receiving mail while the laptop is away. My home server collects email about 6 times per day whether I'm there or not so that wouldn't work for me -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-)
Re: Mutt and vim enhancment
On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 05:48:38AM +0100 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, David T-G thought: Conor -- ...and then Conor Daly said... % On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 09:00:05AM +0800 or thereabouts, Bevan Broun wrote: % on Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 12:39:46PM -0400, Peter Solodov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % % Is it useful for someone besides me? :-) % % Im using it. I modified the first one to include the Subject but then ... % % Yes, but where do I put the function? Have you tried putting it in your .vimrc or .exrc file? That's where I'd start... No, I'm only *starting* to plumb the depths of vim and haven't a clue where .vimrc etc is concerned. Hence the dumb question... :-) % % TIA HTH HAND % -- % Conor Daly % Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland % Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275 % :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! The "new millennium" starts at the beginning of 2001. There was no year 0. -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-)
Re: How can I use mutt on disconnected laptops?
On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 06:41:47PM +0100 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Dan Boger thought: On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 02:35:24PM +, Conor Daly wrote: cat ~/mbox | /usr/bin/formail -D 8192 msgid.cache laptop:~/mbox cat laptop:~/mbox | /usr/bin/formail -D 8192 msgid.cache ~/mbox and similarly for other folders (I don't know what the "8192" bit means above, I just copied it blindly from Telsa's .procmailrc). the 8192 is the size of the cache for the IDs - if you're processing a large mailbox though, (say, more than 10-20 messages) you'd defenitly want this larger... at least 64k, if not more... another way to go at it, and this also works only if there's only one machine that is getting the mail, is just put the mailfolder (or the maildir) in an nfs share... Dan That'll only work while the laptop is connected. He wants to work on his email while roaming with the laptop and have all the folders kept in sync. -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-)
Re: Composing a draft?
On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 05:11:47PM +0100 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Dan Boger thought: On Sun, Oct 15, 2000 at 12:51:12PM +0100, Conor Daly wrote: I don't think this would work. mutt sits waiting for the editor to return before sending the mail. If you use gvim which detaches itself from mutt, mutt decides that you've abandoned the message and aborts the send. To make mutt use gvim you need to use something like set editor='gvim -e' which tells gvim to remain within the current process until it exits rather than detaching from its parent immediately. ok, but that doesn't help you keep reading mail while you're editing a draft... I don't have a solution for this though - need some way for mutt to just go on, not waiting for the process, and not deleteing the tmpfile... then, somehow, when the editor is done, something needs to send that mail... Exactly my point... could do something like set edit_hdrs set editor='independent-process-and-send-script ' and have independent-process-and-send-script look something like #!/bin/bash gvim -e $1 mutt -sSubject somehow gathered from mutt recipient also gathered from mutt $1 # END There was mention of how to get the recipient and subject from mutt with vim in another thread here. That would do it... -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-)
Re: How can I use mutt on disconnected laptops?
On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 11:31:03PM -0700 or thereabouts, Claus Fischer wrote: I have a laptop which is sometimes disconnected from my main PC. I want to use mutt alternatingly on both systems, for the same inbox and mail folders. Does anyone have a proven method of doing that? Like that: work on main PC synchronize disconnect work on laptop connect synchronize ... [ start over ] There's a few interesting issues here... Differences arise depending on whether your main PC connects to the internet while the laptop is disconnected or not. If there's no internet connection happening, you could do something as simple as copy the more recent file over the older version in either direction. OTOH, if the main PC is receiving mail while the laptop's away, you,ll need a more sophisticated solution. I'd be thinking of something along the lines of a combination of pop, procmail and formail. For example, you could do something like cat ~/mbox | /usr/bin/formail -D 8192 msgid.cache laptop:~/mbox cat laptop:~/mbox | /usr/bin/formail -D 8192 msgid.cache ~/mbox and similarly for other folders (I don't know what the "8192" bit means above, I just copied it blindly from Telsa's .procmailrc). If you create a new folder on one machine, a script like the following should duplicate it on the other one. #!/bin/bash # Synchronise mail folders on two machines # We'll assume that somehow (NFS?) the user's laptop $HOME directory has # been mounted as $HOME/laptop on the desktop machine # First we process the mail on the desktop machine cd ~/ for MAIL_FOLDER in (./mbox `echo Mail/*`); do cat ~/$MAIL_FOLDER | /usr/bin/formail -D 8192 $MAIL_FOLDER.msgid.cache ~/laptop/$MAIL_FOLDER done # Next we process the laptop cd ~/laptop for MAIL_FOLDER in (./mbox `echo Mail/*`); do cat ~/laptop/$MAIL_FOLDER | /usr/bin/formail -D 8192 $MAIL_FOLDER.msgid.cache ~/$MAIL_FOLDER done # That's it. It's up to the user now to keep the mail folders trim to avoid # lots of old messages from being reprocessed! This should synchronise all mail folders in either direction and duplicate new folders also at the cost of reprocessing *every* email message in your possession! Note: usual disclaimers apply, this has not been tested. If it breaks, you get to keep both pieces. The "formail -D" bit should be properly researched before using it on your valuable email. 3. I need to guarantee that mutt isn't running while I do the rsync, otherwise something will be corrupted. Is it possible to gracefully terminate a running mutt? killall -QUIT mutt mutt: - kill editor - postpone currently composed message - do a `quit' (including expunge) - remove pid file - exit(0) wait for pid file to go away and rsync [ just dreaming ] I don't know if it's necessary to kill mutt using this method. I'm certainly running mutt when new mail arrives and gets added to the currently open mailbox. I think, since formail and mutt are used to getting along, there's no need to worry. That's nice because it means you can set up a cron job to keep the machines synchronised or maybe have something in the user's .login and .logout to check if the two machines are connected and if so, synchronise! If someone has experience with that situation I would appreciate scripts or comments; otherwise I'll experiment and perhaps report back. Experiment won't you... Regards, Claus Waiting to hear what happened... :-) -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275
Re: Mutt and vim enhancment
On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 09:00:05AM +0800 or thereabouts, Bevan Broun wrote: on Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 12:39:46PM -0400, Peter Solodov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it useful for someone besides me? :-) Im using it. I modified the first one to include the Subject but then the 2nd one arrived and I started to modify again but decided to wait for the finished version. There is room in my title bar for the subject, what about yours? Yes, but where do I put the function? TIA -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275
Re: Wildcards in the mailboxes command?
On Thu, Oct 12, 2000 at 10:00:31AM +0200 or thereabouts, Patric Mrawek wrote:
* David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001012 04:42]:
% mailboxes ! `cd ~/mail ; for x in * ; do echo -n '=' ; echo -n $x ' '; done`
mailboxes ! `echo ~/mail/*`
try this one in .muttrc
mailboxes `find ~/Mail -type f -print | grep -v sent | xargs`
works fine for me
Ok, so any ideas for an IMAP server then?
mailboxes `echo {server}Inbox/*`
doesn't work!
Sheesh! This Dvorak keyboard layout takes some getting used to!
www.mindprod.com/dsk.html
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Conor Daly
Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland
Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275
Re: multiple mutts
On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 02:30:07PM -0500 or thereabouts, the/eXtreme wrote: -: LOCKFILE=~/.mutt.lock Does a lock file exist for IMAP-configured mutt? When I have a mutt session up, I can't find a lock file anywhere. Do I need to be concerned with the `dotlock_program' configuration variable? My configuration and build of mutt-1.2.5 didn't create a `mutt_dotlock' binary. TIA You'll notice the previous post includes the line touch $LOCKFILE This will create such a lockfile when you run the script. mutt does not create a lockfile by default. -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275
Re: multiple mutts
On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 03:33:06PM -0500 or thereabouts, the/eXtreme wrote: -: You'll notice the previous post includes the line -: -: touch $LOCKFILE Yes, silly of me. It also helps if the luser starts the *first* mutt session using the script. Duh. Time of day, Time of day... -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275
Re: gpg: Warning: using insecure memory!
On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 01:43:48PM +0200 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Jan Houtsma thought: I dont know anything ab gpg. After installing a clean RH7.0 which includes mutt-1.2.5i-3 i always get the following warnings if i view a gpg signed message: "gpg: Warning: using insecure memory! gpg: Signature made Mon 09 Oct 2000 02:07:06 AM CEST using DSA key ID FC5C7370 gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found" Prolly gpg is not quite supported or i havent configured it yet? What do i need to suppress this. thanks, It's about doing a suid on some binary which gives it root privileges and allows it to lock memory. Otherwise your private key or passphrase or something could get written to the swap partition where someone could copy it. Or something like that... The details are in one of the documents on the gpg website... -- Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Domestic Sysadmin :-)
Re: error trying to create IMAP folder w/ mutt 1.2.5i
On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 11:45:59AM +0200 or so it is rumoured hereabouts,
Ulf Erikson thought:
Will it do all the other things I'd like it to do also? Like:
Show my IMAP mailboxes when I do a 'c ?' (All I get currently are my local
folders)
Works for me with Mutt 1.2.5. Did you add something like
mailboxes {[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ssl}INBOX
to your .muttrc? Then try to hit TAB after you go 'c?', maybe you are in
the list of files and not the list of mailboxes..
Ah, that was it. The tab key that is, I had the mailboxes set up in
.muttrc already. Still can't get 'mutt -Z' to work though...
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Conor Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Domestic Sysadmin :-)
Re: error trying to create IMAP folder w/ mutt 1.2.5i
On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 03:16:44AM +0100 or thereabouts, Brendan Cully wrote: I missed this thread... On Saturday, 07 October 2000 at 05:12, Mikko Hänninen wrote: Marc Britten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Fri, 06 Oct 2000: in the folder browser, if i hit n to make a new folder i get "Creating mailboxes is not yet supported." friends of mine have gone over mysetup and verified that it works for them on their IMAP servers. Is this a courier problem? No, it's a Mutt "problem" -- the functionality has not yet been implemented in Mutt, at least in the version you are using. I'm not sure, maybe the current CVS version has it by now, I can't remember. yes, this works in the current development version. Just hold tight (or try out the development version, which has a lot of new IMAP code but could always use more testing...) AFAIK, you can create a new folder by copying a message into one, though. yep. Can I get the dev version by HTTP / FTP or do I have to actually learn how to use CVS? Will it do all the other things I'd like it to do also? Like: Show my IMAP mailboxes when I do a 'c ?' (All I get currently are my local folders) check my IMAP mailboxes when I do a 'mutt -Z'? -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275
Fighting with M$ Exchange!
Hi Folks, I'm a recent arrival in the world of mutt. It's nice! I've even got to the stage where I'm using mutt to IMAP to our M$ Exchange server at work. My only problem though is that I must boot Windows and use M$ Outlook to set up/ change mail filters. Has anyone seen a Linux-based tool for creating / modifying M$ Exchange rules? Thanks, -- Conor Daly Met Eireann, Glasnevin Hill, Dublin 9, Ireland Ph +353 1 8064217 Fax +353 1 8064275
