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> Is anybody else getting tired of this debate? Could you fellas take
> this off-line somewhere?
No! Don't kill it now, I was there at the begining and I've come over
all parental at thought of killing such a b
On Thu, Jan 24, 2002 at 04:11:16PM -0500, Rob 'Feztaa' Park wrote:
> Alas! Preben Randhol spake thus:
> > No he didn't ask for that. He said he used lynx. I said w3m is better,
> > but it isn't when you use the browser with a screenreader then lynx is
> > better.
>
> He said "I'm looking for a br
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> He said "I'm looking for a browser that supports javascript." I don't
> know about you, but to me this is equivalent to "What browsers support
> javascript?"
Is this thread still going? You two are like a c
Alas! Preben Randhol spake thus:
> No he didn't ask for that. He said he used lynx. I said w3m is better,
> but it isn't when you use the browser with a screenreader then lynx is
> better.
He said "I'm looking for a browser that supports javascript." I don't
know about you, but to me this is equi
Rob 'Feztaa' Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 23/01/2002 (22:02) :
> The person was asking for a browser that could handle javascript. The
> one you said was 'better' doesn't support Javascript, either.
No he didn't ask for that. He said he used lynx. I said w3m is better,
but it isn't when you
Alas! Preben Randhol spake thus:
> Yes I have done it 3 times and I don't understand your point. If you
> could please be more clear when you post comments it would be nice.
> There were no questions in that paragraph.
The person was asking for a browser that could handle javascript. The
one you
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* and then Rob 'Feztaa' Park blurted
> Yes, but the same could be said for all quoted text, so why quote at
> all?
That's a good point!
A few people went a little 'foaming at the mouth' on this topic over tha
last few days but it all boils down
Alas! Benjamin Smith spake thus:
> Useful for what exactly? I don't really see anything useful below that I
> couldn't find out simply by looking at your orignal message.
Yes, but the same could be said for all quoted text, so why quote at
all?
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An error
On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Preben Randhol wrote:
> "Thomas E. Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 23/01/2002 (20:31) :
> > tsk, tsk (you should go back and read the paragraph to which you
> > responded)
>
> Yes I have done it 3 times and I don't understand your point. If you
> could please be more cle
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> * and then Christian Schoepplein blurted
>
> Is this because of the keystroke vs mouse click thing?
> I've been using more and more console apps over the last few months and
"Thomas E. Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 23/01/2002 (20:31) :
> tsk, tsk (you should go back and read the paragraph to which you
> responded)
Yes I have done it 3 times and I don't understand your point. If you
could please be more clear when you post comments it would be nice.
There were
On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, Preben Randhol wrote:
> "Thomas E. Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 23/01/2002 (19:11) :
>
> > You're not responding to his question. (w3m doesn't do javascript
>
> No I didn't say it did. I just said w3m is better than lynx.
tsk, tsk (you should go back and read the pa
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>
> > And you can add hard coded font sizes in websites to that list, I know
> > you can overide stylesheets but it's annoying to have to go to such
> > lengths to read sites like cnn.com.
>
> No, the pr
Hi Nick!
On Die, Jan 22, 2002 at 06:18:35 +0100, Nick Wilson wrote:
> > I agree 100%!!! To quote mails in the right way is helpful for anyboody
> > and not only for blind or visually handicapped persons. I'm a blind
> > computeruser and I get mor then 1000 mails the day and its really not
> >
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* David T-G said
> % Anyone remember the subject or something of that thread, I'd like to
> % have a look at it.
> The subject was 'Quoting when replying', and it got nasty around 12/17.
Whooa! That was almost as ugly a
* David T-G [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] on [22-01-02] wrote:
> Hey! On whose side are you? Oh, the betrayal!
>
> %
> % --
> %
> % Nick Wilson
> %
> % Tel:+45 3325 0688
> % Fax:+45 3325 0677
> % Web:www.explodingnet.com
> %
David,
Some people seem to be turning over a new
> And you can add hard coded font sizes in websites to that list, I know
> you can overide stylesheets but it's annoying to have to go to such
> lengths to read sites like cnn.com.
It's actually really easy to do in mozilla. Just add one line to your
prefs.js and you're done, forever. No recurrin
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* On 22-01-02 at 18:08
* Christian Schoepplein said
> I agree 100%!!! To quote mails in the right way is helpful for anyboody
> and not only for blind or visually handicapped persons. I'm a blind
> computeruser and I get mor then 1000 mails t
Hi all!
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 10:43:40AM -0500, Derek D. Martin wrote:
> This is irrelevant. Over-quoting is inconsiderate, and affects
> everyone. It causes us to have to wade through a bunch of irrelevant
> garbage to get at (and often FIND) the author's point. Quoting out of
> context (i
Alas! Nick Wilson spake thus:
> > > How do you tell if you are sending to a blind user?
> >
> > Are you blind??
>
> I'm /registered/ blind. But I see okay in reasonable light.
Good to know. Now I have to ask everybody else...
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Nick --
...and then Nick Wilson said...
%
% * On 22-01-02 at 15:06
% * Brian Clark said
%
% > * David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 22. 2002 05:21]:
% >
% > > % for, but it was the thread where someone was picking on Dave's (%)
% > > % quote prefix. (I gather this isn't the first time some
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* Brian Clark said
> * David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 22. 2002 05:21]:
>
> > % for, but it was the thread where someone was picking on Dave's (%)
> > % quote prefix. (I gather this isn't the first time someone on the
Brian --
...and then Brian Clark said...
%
% * David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 22. 2002 05:21]:
%
% > ...and then Brian Clark said...
%
% > % Hehe, no no, I meant *that exact quote prefix* :-) It'd take me
% > % forever to find the thread in the archives because I wouldn't know
% > % what t
* Preben Randhol ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 22. 2002 06:07]:
> Another annoying thing is the 10 line disclaimer from companies that
Especially when they are up top.
> this is a private e-mail and that if you have gotten it should return
> the e-mail to the company bla bla bla etc... I have alway
* David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 22. 2002 05:21]:
> ...and then Brian Clark said...
> % Hehe, no no, I meant *that exact quote prefix* :-) It'd take me
> % forever to find the thread in the archives because I wouldn't know
> % what to look
> Not so tough; just surf over to the archives site
On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Preben Randhol wrote:
> Cameron Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 21/01/2002 (22:12) :
> > You can't. It's rude anyway. The amount of time you spend trimming stuff
> > to just the relevant stuff is _more_ than outweghed by the time saved
> > to the list members as a whole,
* On 22-01-02 at 12:43
* René Clerc said
> > > Apart from the useful links, you're missing the point. Cameron was
> > > saying that the amount of time spent trimming is _outweighed_ by the
> > > time saved. That means that he means that one _should_ trim!
> >
> > This is not correct at all
* On 22-01-02 at 12:28
* René Clerc said
> Apart from the useful links, you're missing the point. Cameron was
> saying that the amount of time spent trimming is _outweighed_ by the
> time saved. That means that he means that one _should_ trim!
Thank god for that, I thought I was going mad
* Preben Randhol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [22-01-2002 12:28]:
> René Clerc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 22/01/2002 (12:26) :
> >
> > Apart from the useful links, you're missing the point. Cameron was
> > saying that the amount of time spent trimming is _outweighed_ by the
> > time saved. That means t
René Clerc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 22/01/2002 (12:26) :
>
> Apart from the useful links, you're missing the point. Cameron was
> saying that the amount of time spent trimming is _outweighed_ by the
> time saved. That means that he means that one _should_ trim!
This is not correct at all. It
* Preben Randhol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [22-01-2002 12:13]:
> Cameron Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 21/01/2002 (22:12) :
> > You can't. It's rude anyway. The amount of time you spend trimming stuff
> > to just the relevant stuff is _more_ than outweghed by the time saved
> > to the list membe
Cameron Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 21/01/2002 (22:12) :
> You can't. It's rude anyway. The amount of time you spend trimming stuff
> to just the relevant stuff is _more_ than outweghed by the time saved
> to the list members as a whole, not to mention the readability of the
> mail archiv
Brian Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 22/01/2002 (00:01) :
> It seems they're all LookOut users as well. Where the heck people get
> that crap is beyond me.
I thought the program was called LockOut ;-)
Another annoying thing is the 10 line disclaimer from companies that
this is a private e-m
Nick --
...and then Nick Wilson said...
%
% * On 22-01-02 at 09:17
% * Thomas Hurst said
%
% > Like mine? It's only 6 lines, and it's *so* useful. Honest..
%
% I think yours might be just a little much, I'm getting my arse kicked
% here about trimming, a six line attribution? That's as
Nick --
Nick Wilson said, with suitable silliness,
%
% I must admit to toying with several ideas but not coming up with
% anything I was happy enough with yet. You're right about the one line
% thing though and as soon as I can come up with something suitably silly
% I'm in.
Happy to help; fee
Derek --
...and then Derek D. Martin said...
%
o/
/o At some point hitherto, René Clerc hath spake thusly:
o/
/o > I've finally come to my senses; changed from '| ' to '> '. Now it's up
o/
/o > to that other pagan, David, to change ;)
O /
/
/ O
O /
/
/ O And there was much rejoicing... ;-)
Rob --
...and then Feztaa said...
%
% Alas! Brian Clark spake thus:
%
% > I've used clients like TheBat! before that do it as you've pointed out
% > below:
% >
% > > BC>This line is quoted text>
% > > BC>This line is quoted text>
%
% TheBat! is by far the best windows mail program I've
Brian, et al --
...and then Brian Clark said...
%
% * Jonathan Irving ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 21. 2002 18:57]:
%
% > Emacs and Pine both support per-message quote characters. I
% > think the idea is to choose something that identifies the person,
% > like:
%
% Hehe, no no, I meant *that exac
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* On 22-01-02 at 09:17
* Rob 'Feztaa' Park said
> Alas! Nick Wilson spake thus:
> > How do you tell if you are sending to a blind user?
>
> Are you blind??
I'm /registered/ blind. But I see okay in reasonable light.
- --
Nick Wilson
Tel:
* Nick Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [22-01-2002 09:20]:
> > Also, you could try to be creative with your attribution, like me
> > or others here.
>
> I must admit to toying with several ideas but not coming up with
> anything I was happy enough with yet. You're right about the one line
> thing tho
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* On 22-01-02 at 09:17
* Rob 'Feztaa' Park said
>
> TheBat! is by far the best windows mail program I've seen (unless mutt
> is available for windows and I don't know about it). It sure beats
> Netscape Mail or LookOut, anyway.
Does it suppor
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* On 22-01-02 at 09:17
* Jonathan Irving said
> Simple: defaults. Default behaviour is what most non-technical
> users end up with. I've heard it called "flashing 12:00
> syndrome", referencing the inability of most over-12-year-olds to
> pro
4:47 -0700
> Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers
>
> I agree, although I question the actual utility of dates and times in
> attributions; if people need that sort of detail shouldn't they look up
> the thread?
>
> > Also, you could try to be creative w
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* On 22-01-02 at 09:17
* Rob 'Feztaa' Park said
> Alas! Nick Wilson spake thus:
>
> > * On 21-01-02 at 23:17 Brian Foley said
> >
> > > Some of the more extreme past members of this list would have
> > > blasted you out of the water for: a
* Rob 'Feztaa' Park ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 21. 2002 20:05]:
> TheBat! is by far the best windows mail program I've seen (unless mutt
> is available for windows and I don't know about it). It sure beats
> Netscape Mail or LookOut, anyway.
Yes, it's a good client. I used SecureBat! with the iKey
No, the most annoying way is to indent using spaces, with Outlook style
replies (i.e, 2-3 lines right at the top of the message). Nice huh? :)
Several times I've found myself reading the "quoted" text thinking it's
the actual reply and wondering why it looks so familiar..
* Brian Clark ([EMAIL
_Replying to a message_
By: Rob 'Feztaa' Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Mutt Users' List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On: Monday, January 21, 2002, 16:54:47 -0700
Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers
> Alas! Nick Wilson spake thus:
>
> > * On 21-0
At some point hitherto, René Clerc hath spake thusly:
> I've finally come to my senses; changed from '| ' to '> '. Now it's up
> to that other pagan, David, to change ;)
And there was much rejoicing... ;-)
--
Derek Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Alas! Brian Clark spake thus:
> I've used clients like TheBat! before that do it as you've pointed out
> below:
>
> > BC>This line is quoted text>
> > BC>This line is quoted text>
TheBat! is by far the best windows mail program I've seen (unless mutt
is available for windows and I don't
Brian Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [21 Jan 2002 19:04 -0500]:
> * Jonathan Irving ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 21. 2002 18:57]:
> > Emacs and Pine both support per-message quote characters. I
> > think the idea is to choose something that identifies the person,
> > like:
>
> Hehe, no no, I meant *that
* Jonathan Irving ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 21. 2002 18:57]:
[...]
> Emacs and Pine both support per-message quote characters. I
> think the idea is to choose something that identifies the person,
> like:
Hehe, no no, I meant *that exact quote prefix* :-) It'd take me forever
to find the thread
Brian Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [21 Jan 2002 17:56 -0500]:
> I've seen something like this on this list in the past, *in
> jest*, in a similar thread:
>
>This line is quoted text>
>This line is quoted text>
Emacs and Pine both support per-message quote characters. I
think the idea is to
Alas! Nick Wilson spake thus:
> * On 21-01-02 at 23:17 Brian Foley said
>
> > Some of the more extreme past members of this list would have
> > blasted you out of the water for: a) using a two-line attribution at
> > the top of all your quotes
>
> Oops, I just thought it looked neater as it w
Alas! Nick Wilson spake thus:
> How do you tell if you are sending to a blind user?
Are you blind??
--
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sliced butter should be forced to wear a sign stating "This mind
intentionally left blan
* Nick Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [Jan 21. 2002 17:17]:
> You think that'll happen? I like the @ idea but I think && or could be
> pretty bad too.
Oh no, that's not the worst. I've seen something like this on this list
in the past, *in jest*, in a similar thread:
This line is quoted text>
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* On 21-01-02 at 23:17
* Brian Foley said
> I got this email, did you bounce it to mutt-users as well?
Yes, sorry about that I thought it would just end up in the thread where
it belonged.
- --
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Tel:+45 3325 0688
Fax:+45
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* On 21-01-02 at 23:17
* Brian Foley said
>
> Some of the more extreme past members of this list would have blasted
> you out of the water for:
> a) using a two-line attribution at the top of all your quotes
Oops, I just thought it looked nea
* On 21-01-02 at 23:04
* René Clerc said
> * David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [21-01-2002 18:56]:
>
> [to Nick]
> > You should change your quote char. I'd find '@' particularly annoying,
> > and nobody is using it yet.
Reckon there could be a reason there David. Hehe.
>
> I've finally com
* Nick Wilson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] on [21-01-02] wrote:
> Seeing as the sender of these next few lines didn't seem to want to send
> them to the list. Here they are in all thier glory.
I got this email, did you bounce it to mutt-users as well?
> I'm sorry guys but I feel that my messages are usua
* David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [21-01-2002 18:56]:
[to Nick]
> You should change your quote char. I'd find '@' particularly annoying,
> and nobody is using it yet.
I've finally come to my senses; changed from '| ' to '> '. Now it's up
to that other pagan, David, to change ;)
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* On 21-01-02 at 22:29
* Nick Wilson said
Seeing as the sender of these next few lines didn't seem to want to send
them to the list. Here they are in all thier glory.
- ---
Funny that your reply on 'not trimming' was hardly (if at all
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* On 21-01-02 at 22:15
* Cameron Simpson said
> |
> | How do you tell if you are sending to a blind user?
>
> You can't. It's rude anyway. The amount of time you spend trimming stuff
Rude to do what? I don't follow you.
> to just the releva
On 14:45 21 Jan 2002, Nick Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| > That would still leave you with a truckload of repeated and mostly
| > irrelevent cruft, and not only for someone using a screenreader.
| >
| > Being able to skip quotes is no excuse not to trim them; not caring
| > whether people w
"Derek D. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 21/01/2002 (18:05) :
> See above where Preben said this is not a minority problem. He was
> refering to the fact that it is a much BROADER problem than just one
> that affects minorities. Your comment is irrelevant to that argument.
> (Preben: pleas
Nick --
...and then Nick Wilson said...
%
% * On 21-01-02 at 18:27
% * David T-G said
%
% > % the 'Nick believes in over-quoting' badge. Not true, not true.
% >
% > Come, Nick... Join me... Join the dark side and piss off everyone on
% > the mutt-users list... I am your father!
%
% Ha
At some point hitherto, David T-G hath spake thusly:
> % Disagree, all this GO BACK AND READ THE THREAD! nonsense is insulting.
> % Of course I've been reading the thread.
>
> I don't think the comment is directed at you; we know you've been
> reading. I think that the argument is that leaving
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At some point hitherto, Nick Wilson hath spake thusly:
>
> > If you're not following the thread, but you suddenly decide it's
> > important, GO BACK AND READ THE THREAD! You've already received the
> > e-mails, so you should have them. If you don't
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* On 21-01-02 at 18:27
* David T-G said
> % I agree, I've been agreeing all along, I'm not sure where I've picked up
> % the 'Nick believes in over-quoting' badge. Not true, not true.
>
> Come, Nick... Join me... Join the dark side and piss
Nick, et al --
...and then Nick Wilson said...
%
% * On 21-01-02 at 18:07
% * Derek D. Martin said
%
% > If you're not following the thread, but you suddenly decide it's
% > important, GO BACK AND READ THE THREAD! You've already received the
% > e-mails, so you should have them. If you d
Nick --
...and then Nick Wilson said...
%
% I agree, I've been agreeing all along, I'm not sure where I've picked up
% the 'Nick believes in over-quoting' badge. Not true, not true.
Come, Nick... Join me... Join the dark side and piss off everyone on
the mutt-users list... I am your father!
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* On 21-01-02 at 18:07
* Derek D. Martin said
> If you're not following the thread, but you suddenly decide it's
> important, GO BACK AND READ THE THREAD! You've already received the
> e-mails, so you should have them. If you don't, there's a
At some point hitherto, Nick Wilson hath spake thusly:
> * On 21-01-02 at 16:58
> * Derek D. Martin said
>
> [Preben said:]
> > > > Nick Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 21/01/2002 (14:47) :
> > > > > people did that they don't that would make my life easier. However, if
> > > > > we spend
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* On 21-01-02 at 17:41
* Preben Randhol said
> Nick Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 21/01/2002 (17:20) :
>
> > And there's where we differ, my point was just that the line above where
> > preben decided to quote me was rather important. Is
Nick Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 21/01/2002 (16:50) :
> I think the quote is taken a little out of context.
> Bandwidth's a bugger on mailing lists huh?
If you get about 1000 overquoted mails a day, it is.
Preben
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Nick Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 21/01/2002 (17:20) :
[snipped away several quotes that should have been cut down in the
previous post]
> And there's where we differ, my point was just that the line above where
> preben decided to quote me was rather important. Is that where the
> hostil
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* On 21-01-02 at 16:58
* Derek D. Martin said
> > > Nick Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 21/01/2002 (14:47) :
> > > > people did that they don't that would make my life easier. However, if
> > > > we spend all our time worrying about every
At some point hitherto, Nick Wilson hath spake thusly:
>
> * On 21-01-02 at 15:08
> * Preben Randhol said
>
> > Nick Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 21/01/2002 (14:47) :
> > > people did that they don't that would make my life easier. However, if
> > > we spend all our time worrying abo
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* On 21-01-02 at 16:47
* Derek D. Martin said
> > Learn to use your screenreader better, and teach it to ignore or skip
> > over quote chars at the start of a new line.
>
> That's a pretty inconsiderate attitude to take, and doesn't solve t
At some point hitherto, Dave Price hath spake thusly:
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 05:25:56PM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> > to the reader by a voder. Where it's merely inconsiderate to not trim
> > quotations when replying ordinarily, when replying to a blind user it
> > becomes outright rud
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* On 21-01-02 at 15:38
* Thomas Hurst said
> * Nick Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> > How do you tell if you are sending to a blind user?
>
> You don't; quoting properly has nothing to do with who you're sending
> to, it's just basic
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* On 21-01-02 at 15:08
* Preben Randhol said
> Nick Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 21/01/2002 (14:47) :
> > people did that they don't that would make my life easier. However, if
> > we spend all our time worrying about every minority
> >
* Nick Wilson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> * On 21-01-02 at 14:40
> * Thomas Hurst said
>
> > Being able to skip quotes is no excuse not to trim them; not caring
> > whether people will simply ignore your message because it appears to
> > have no content isn't either.
>
> How do you tell i
Nick Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 21/01/2002 (14:47) :
> people did that they don't that would make my life easier. However, if
> we spend all our time worrying about every minority
> problem/consideration we'll never get *anything* done :)
Is it not a minority problem.
Preben
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Dave Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 21/01/2002 (14:25) :
> Learn to use your screenreader better, and teach it to ignore or skip
> over quote chars at the start of a new line.
There is no point in sending a load of quoted stuff to anybody. Cut it
down to relevant part before you send. This is
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* On 21-01-02 at 14:40
* Thomas Hurst said
> * Dave Price ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 05:25:56PM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> > > Where it's merely inconsiderate to not trim quotations when replying
> > > ordina
* Dave Price ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 05:25:56PM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> > Where it's merely inconsiderate to not trim quotations when replying
> > ordinarily, when replying to a blind user it becomes outright rude.
> Learn to use your screenreader better, and
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 05:25:56PM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> Remember that for many blind users these messages are being spoken
> to the reader by a voder. Where it's merely inconsiderate to not trim
> quotations when replying ordinarily, when replying to a blind user it
> becomes outright r
John Kearney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[ a big quote from Christian Schoepplein ]
[ and then a short but useful suggestion ]
Remember that for many blind users these messages are being spoken
to the reader by a voder. Where it's merely inconsiderate to not trim
quotations when replying ordinaril
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 08:48:04PM +0100, Cristian wrote:
> Hi Gary and all,
>
> why didn't I come up with this workaround? I use w3m regularly - I
> hacked my url_handler.sh into calling it when no Netscape is running
> (hardly recently) and as long as Opera refuses to take remote commands
> (al
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 03:54:33PM -0500, Dan Boger wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 12:40:36PM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 08:48:04PM +0100, Cristian wrote:
> > > On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 10:23:51AM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote:
> > > Could you automate it? Could you find o
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 12:40:36PM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 08:48:04PM +0100, Cristian wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 10:23:51AM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote:
> > Could you automate it? Could you find out whether there are more
> > than, say, 3 URLs in a message body s
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 08:48:04PM +0100, Cristian wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 10:23:51AM -0800, Gary Johnson wrote:
> > Display-hooks let you set w3m as the pager for just those messages that
> > you know have a lot of embedded URLs, e.g.,
> >
> > display-hook ~A
Hi Gary and all,
why didn't I come up with this workaround? I use w3m regularly - I
hacked my url_handler.sh into calling it when no Netscape is running
(hardly recently) and as long as Opera refuses to take remote commands
(although it says it understands them, Opera 5 and Opera 6 TP1 don't).
T
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 04:15:08PM +0100, Cristian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Mutt folks,
>
> (this idea is for the Mutt developers but since the thread came up
> here, I'm continuing here. Btw. -- sorry for my recent duplicate post.
> It won't happen again, folder-hook works for me now.)
>
On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 04:15:08PM +0100, Cristian wrote:
> There is another great use for an (optional) cursor in the internal
> pager -- you could avoid using the urlview ripper.
>
> The only feature I miss in Mutt compared to Pine 4 is just this:
> Within the ususal message view, you use up a
Hi Mutt folks,
(this idea is for the Mutt developers but since the thread came up
here, I'm continuing here. Btw. -- sorry for my recent duplicate post.
It won't happen again, folder-hook works for me now.)
There is another great use for an (optional) cursor in the internal
pager -- you could av
Hi Vincent!
On Don, Nov 29, 2001 at 01:01:31 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> Christian,
>
> Your Mail-Followup-To header is broken:
>
> Mail-Followup-To: Christian Schoepplein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> as [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't exist, though your From header is co
On 2001-11-28 21:23:27 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
>I agree with you. Perhaps there could be an optional cursor for
>the internal pager.
Any takers? I'd include such a patch with mutt pretty much
immediately if it was clean.
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* Christian Schoepplein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [011128 19:25]:
> Hi,
>
> I'm a blind computeruser who wants to use mutt. Most things are working
> very fine, I had only to change a view settings in the
> standardconfiguration to get mutt working with my special screenreading
> software (suse-blin
Christian,
Your Mail-Followup-To header is broken:
Mail-Followup-To: Christian Schoepplein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
as [EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't exist, though your From header is correct.
I don't know what the reason is. Any idea?
Perhaps your From header isn't correct bu
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