[MLO] Re: Window freezes

[Ray Emerson]

I've also noted this on 2 Windows 10 machines. One is a desktop PC running 
BitDefender 2019, the other a laptop with a corporate WebRoot install. Much 
more frequent on the laptop.

Not easily reproducible (read: I haven't figured out the steps yet!). I 
have noticed that this only happens when MLO is maximized.

I'll keep a look out if it happens again.

On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 1:44:22 AM UTC-4, Steven Beullens wrote:
>
> Anyone else experiencing problems with v5.0 on Windows 10 with an 
> unresponsive window header? The application works fine but I cannot 
> minimize, maximize or close it using the standard icons on the top right of 
> the window. Using the default Windows key shortcuts does work. It's only 
> the window header buttons.
>
> Steven
>

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Re: [MLO] Re: MyLifeOrganized for Windows 5.0 is out now!

[Jeff Smith]

nope my best solution was to lose what I did (which wasn't much) on mlo5
by finding an automatic backup just before the upgrade and restore that.
It wasn't easy but was better than what you suggested in that case.

So you are confirming that this is a very bad thing MLO is doing by
tricking people into thinking it would be simple to agree to try 5 and
then just go back to 4.x when it isn't ready. There is no warning that
all these things will happen, yet they are very aware that it will
happen. Bad choice all around.

On 9/30/2018 13:37, Stéph wrote:
> Imajeff, you’ll have to find someone you trust, with a cooy of MLO5, who can 
> convert it back for you. If there’s no sensitive information in the task 
> list, I’d be more than happy to do that for you. If you ask the developers, 
> they too may be willing to convert it for you.
>
> Regards,
> Stéphane
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Re: [MLO] Re: Feature request: Time Tracking

[Jeff Smith]

I've already seen how slowly they are trying to improve it. 10 years of
observation. MLO5 is a good example of how they leave so many problems
that slow me down but just add new problems. My software should not
consume all of my time, I need to work on actually getting things done I
needed to do in the first place.

I think it's because the platform never gets thought out and rewritten.
You can't keep making it better if you never look at the big picture of
what's wrong in the base code. What is taking too much time to manage.
If there were an underlying API then other minds could start solving
problems that shouldn't take up the companies resources and mine because
I don't need everything others need.

On 9/30/2018 07:12, zelz...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I would agree as long as support for the API by MLO is low in
> priority. I would like the programmers to improve MLO, not
> interactions with some program a subset of users prefer to use.
>
> On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 12:16:31 PM UTC-5, Ford Ford wrote:
>
> True. An API or simply increasing the commad line fuctions that
> MLO already has would allow to create many external tools that
> would give extra features without slowing MLO down.
>
> Il giorno venerdì 21 settembre 2018 16:14:10 UTC+2, imajeff ha
> scritto:
>
> I agree with zelzvga. It would be neat if MLO had API to allow
> integration but it should not have to worry about all these
> extras that get suggested from the customizable task manager
> that it is. Think hope can I improve with GTD and part of that
> is not complicate things.
>
> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018, 23:25  wrote:
>
> Consider my vote negative if we are talking about an
> /integrated /time tracker.
>
> A time tracker will add bloat and unseen complications.
> *It will also limit a very unique niche that MLO has*. No
> one else publishes a PC, android, iOS based synchronizing
> organizer that can be this customized.
>
> There are multiple time trackers, only one MLO.
>
> On Saturday, May 16, 2009 at 7:23:23 AM UTC-5, JeffH wrote:
>
> Using MLO to plan and execute projects and tasks is
> fantastic. Having
> to use a separate app to track time spent is
> frustrating, involving
> duplicate data entry, inconsistencies, etc. I believe
> time tracking
> could be integrated into MLO cleanly and
> unobtrusively, so as not to
> bother those who don't want or need it. I recently
> looked at over a
> dozen time-tracking apps, listed below, with brief
> comments. First,
> some design ideas. Throughout, when I say project, I
> mean any non-leaf
> node of the hierarchy.
>
> - Maintain a list of task or activity types (eg
> Administration,
> Coding, Maintenance, Documentation, etc.)
>
> - Maintain a list of clients.
>
> - Maintain a log of activities. Each entry includes a
> start date/time,
> end date/time, associated task id. Give the task log a
> separate tab
> next to Task Notes and Properties. By default, show
> the current date.
> Allow filtering by date; maybe show a calendar or
> drop-down calendar.
>
> - Provide a timer to accumulate time to a task. Select
> the task, right
> click, and start the timer. Maintain a MRU list of
> tasks; show on
> right-clicking the tray icon.
>
> - Provide a properties pane (or tab?) to capture
> expenses. Associate
> each expense with a project. Capture date, amount,
> vendor,
> description, paid (bool).
>
> - Provide reporting options: Summary by date (today,
> week, month),
> Detail by date, Summary by project, detail by project,
> projects by
> client (detail/summary, Client billing (paid, unpaid,
> all), Activity
> per time unit (detail/summary) (eg this week 20 hours
> coding, 10.5
> hours admin, etc.), ...
>
> - Don't need detailed financial accounting of billing.
>
> Products I reviewed:
>
> Maybe
> - Easy Time Tracking - sluggish ui, but pretty
> functional. Allows
> customized statuses for projects and tasks; task
> categories; does
> invoicing. Tray window is informative but a intrusuve.

[MLO] Re: Is there a way to print out the Hot Key list?

[pottster]

The default hot keys are listed in the MLO user guide available from the 
website at https://www.mylifeorganized.net/support.shtml#windows

If you have customized any of the hotkeys the amended list is found within 
the app at Tools/Options/General Applications Options/Hotkeys. This list is 
in a scrolling window so you would need to use a screen capture tool like 
SnagIt or FastStone Capture to capture the full list via autoscroll since 
normal text selection methods don't work.

Good luck!

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[MLO] Re: Window freezes

[Laurence Glazier]

It happens to me too. I have Microsoft Surface PC's. To be able to move the 
window, I have to exit MLO and restart the application. I use Eset antivirus. 
There is no error message, the MLO window just gets stuck in its position on 
the screen.

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[MLO] Re: Window freezes

[Alyona (MLO Support)]

Can you reproduce the issue? It would really help us investigate the issue 
if you provide us a screencast video of the bug and the logs: MLO- >Tools- 
>Options- >Troubleshooting- >Export Logs- >Send a received archive to MLO 
support.

Thank you. 

On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 11:50:33 AM UTC+3, grizz wrote:
>
> It's neither antivir nor dnd. I've that same symptoms on win 10 without 
> additional av.
>
> W dniu czwartek, 27 września 2018 07:56:00 UTC+2 użytkownik Alyona (MLO 
> Support) napisał:
>>
>> Hi Steven, 
>>
>> Similar concerns were raised in the following threads: 
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/mylifeorganized/freezing|sort:date/mylifeorganized/-qREK2i7MPU/b0JYpmzkBgAJ
>>  
>> and 
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/mylifeorganized/freezing|sort:date/mylifeorganized/Y2-07-iCLCw/4SLMDUgaGAAJ
>>
>> We suspect that the freezing issue is caused by antivirus software, or 
>> rather its "Do not disturb" functionality. Please specify which AV you are 
>> using.
>>
>> If you are using Avast/AVG please try removing this feature completely 
>> following the steps: Open AVG Internet Security > Menu > Settings > 
>> Components > Do not disturb > Click on the drop down > Uninstall Component
>>
>> Let us know if it helps or if the issue still persists so that we can 
>> help you further.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 8:44:22 AM UTC+3, Steven Beullens 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyone else experiencing problems with v5.0 on Windows 10 with an 
>>> unresponsive window header? The application works fine but I cannot 
>>> minimize, maximize or close it using the standard icons on the top right of 
>>> the window. Using the default Windows key shortcuts does work. It's only 
>>> the window header buttons.
>>>
>>> Steven
>>>
>>

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Re: [MLO] printing users guide for mlo5

[Monte Hickenlooper]

many thanks.
monte

On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 12:53 AM  wrote:

> How does one  print a user's guide for mlo5?
>
> monte hickenlooper
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[MLO] Re: Window freezes

[grizz]

It's neither antivir nor dnd. I've that same symptoms on win 10 without 
additional av.

W dniu czwartek, 27 września 2018 07:56:00 UTC+2 użytkownik Alyona (MLO 
Support) napisał:
>
> Hi Steven, 
>
> Similar concerns were raised in the following threads: 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/mylifeorganized/freezing|sort:date/mylifeorganized/-qREK2i7MPU/b0JYpmzkBgAJ
>  
> and 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/mylifeorganized/freezing|sort:date/mylifeorganized/Y2-07-iCLCw/4SLMDUgaGAAJ
>
> We suspect that the freezing issue is caused by antivirus software, or 
> rather its "Do not disturb" functionality. Please specify which AV you are 
> using.
>
> If you are using Avast/AVG please try removing this feature completely 
> following the steps: Open AVG Internet Security > Menu > Settings > 
> Components > Do not disturb > Click on the drop down > Uninstall Component
>
> Let us know if it helps or if the issue still persists so that we can help 
> you further.
>
>
> On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 8:44:22 AM UTC+3, Steven Beullens wrote:
>>
>> Anyone else experiencing problems with v5.0 on Windows 10 with an 
>> unresponsive window header? The application works fine but I cannot 
>> minimize, maximize or close it using the standard icons on the top right of 
>> the window. Using the default Windows key shortcuts does work. It's only 
>> the window header buttons.
>>
>> Steven
>>
>

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Re: [MLO] Re: Feature request: Time Tracking

[zelzvga]

I would agree as long as support for the API by MLO is low in priority. I 
would like the programmers to improve MLO, not interactions with some 
program a subset of users prefer to use.

On Saturday, September 29, 2018 at 12:16:31 PM UTC-5, Ford Ford wrote:
>
> True. An API or simply increasing the commad line fuctions that MLO 
> already has would allow to create many external tools that would give extra 
> features without slowing MLO down.
>
> Il giorno venerdì 21 settembre 2018 16:14:10 UTC+2, imajeff ha scritto:
>>
>> I agree with zelzvga. It would be neat if MLO had API to allow 
>> integration but it should not have to worry about all these extras that get 
>> suggested from the customizable task manager that it is. Think hope can I 
>> improve with GTD and part of that is not complicate things.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 20, 2018, 23:25  wrote:
>>
>>> Consider my vote negative if we are talking about an *integrated *time 
>>> tracker.
>>>
>>> A time tracker will add bloat and unseen complications. *It will also 
>>> limit a very unique niche that MLO has*. No one else publishes a PC, 
>>> android, iOS based synchronizing organizer that can be this customized.
>>>
>>> There are multiple time trackers, only one MLO.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 16, 2009 at 7:23:23 AM UTC-5, JeffH wrote:

 Using MLO to plan and execute projects and tasks is fantastic. Having 
 to use a separate app to track time spent is frustrating, involving 
 duplicate data entry, inconsistencies, etc. I believe time tracking 
 could be integrated into MLO cleanly and unobtrusively, so as not to 
 bother those who don't want or need it. I recently looked at over a 
 dozen time-tracking apps, listed below, with brief comments. First, 
 some design ideas. Throughout, when I say project, I mean any non-leaf 
 node of the hierarchy. 

 - Maintain a list of task or activity types (eg Administration, 
 Coding, Maintenance, Documentation, etc.) 

 - Maintain a list of clients. 

 - Maintain a log of activities. Each entry includes a start date/time, 
 end date/time, associated task id. Give the task log a separate tab 
 next to Task Notes and Properties. By default, show the current date. 
 Allow filtering by date; maybe show a calendar or drop-down calendar. 

 - Provide a timer to accumulate time to a task. Select the task, right 
 click, and start the timer. Maintain a MRU list of tasks; show on 
 right-clicking the tray icon. 

 - Provide a properties pane (or tab?) to capture expenses. Associate 
 each expense with a project. Capture date, amount, vendor, 
 description, paid (bool). 

 - Provide reporting options: Summary by date (today, week, month), 
 Detail by date, Summary by project, detail by project, projects by 
 client (detail/summary, Client billing (paid, unpaid, all), Activity 
 per time unit (detail/summary) (eg this week 20 hours coding, 10.5 
 hours admin, etc.), ... 

 - Don't need detailed financial accounting of billing. 

 Products I reviewed: 

 Maybe 
 - Easy Time Tracking - sluggish ui, but pretty functional. Allows 
 customized statuses for projects and tasks; task categories; does 
 invoicing. Tray window is informative but a intrusuve. 

 - Timeless Time & Expense - Seems to have everything, but pretty 
 awkward. Version 3 coming soon, free upgrade, Allows expense tracking. 
 UI seems sluggish here too. Tray control but no window. 

 Almost 
 - AllNeticWorkingTimeTracker: very clean ui. has tray app for start/ 
 stop. Doesn't have task categories (activities). Reporting not great. 

 - TimePanic - interesting. activity centric. Allows projects + 
 subprojects; no expense support; 

 Definitely not 
 - FruitFul 

 - Office Time - has projects and categories, but no tasks. Multiple 
 windows confusing. 

 - Responsive Time Logger - pretty rich feature set. Expensive. Tray 
 app doesn't allow task switching (per screen shot). 

 - Complete Time Tracking - kind of cool, compact ui; no activities; 

 - Time Shadow 

 - Time Tracker 

 - ya Timer - http://www.nbdtech.com/yaTimer/Help/ - kind of cool, no 
 task notes 

 - WHID - sourceforge 

 - TimeSheets MTS - pretty heavy duty - requires manually entered 
 project and task ids - 

 - Fanurio - http://www.fanuriotimetracking.com/ - Java based. no tasks 

 That just scratches the surface. There are TONS of tools out there, 
 none with an MLO's highly tuned look and feel, most very awkward, 
 heavy, sluggish. AllNetic comes closest, but lacks functionality. I 
 would easily fork over more $ for an integrated MLO implementation. 

 Anybody else?
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[MLO] Tips for tasks (and their dependents) that can no longer be completed

[Nick Clark]

Depending on how important it is to record the non-completion I'll either 
delete the task or move it to a failed tasks folder which is marked as Hide in 
ToDo lists. I might ask add a note regarding the reason for failure. 

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