Re: [neonixie-l] Re: How close together do a controller and crystal need to be?

2020-12-27 Thread Adrian Godwin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velocity_factor On Sun, Dec 27, 2020 at 10:05 PM Paul Andrews wrote: > Hmm. My recollection from high school physics was that the speed of > propagation along a wave guide was around 90% the speed of light - > presumably limited by the dielectric. Signals along a

Re: [neonixie-l] Interesting Nixie counter at auction

2021-01-31 Thread Adrian Godwin
This (free) software takes PCB artworks created in inkscape and generates manufacturing files. https://github.com/boldport/pcbmode Some examples here : https://github.com/boldport/circuit-board-photos On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 11:07 PM Mac Doktor wrote: > > On Jan 31, 2021, at 5:51 PM, Mac

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Another new nixie maker

2021-06-10 Thread Adrian Godwin
He's posted a manufacturing process video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv01SKiYJz4 On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 2:17 PM Bill Notfaded wrote: > And it has a QR code inside the tube! > > Bill > > On Monday, June 7, 2021 at 1:40:03 PM UTC-7 Dekatron42 wrote: > >> Nice! >> >> I really like that he

Re: [neonixie-l] Today's Catch!

2021-06-20 Thread Adrian Godwin
That unit on the right is amazing. What is it ? A DVM ? On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 12:43 AM tntmod54321 wrote: > absolutely gorgeous, nice finds > > On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 7:36 PM martin martin wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> I helped a friend clean out his garage today. Some of these items have

Re: [neonixie-l] Today's Catch!

2021-06-21 Thread Adrian Godwin
The one to the right has a decimal point, which would suggest voltage. But it has a lot of precision for something that old. Maybe it's a digital readout for something like a machine tool or a microscope positioning system ? The 'space-age' format might be appropriate for a something like an

[neonixie-l] CRT or magic eye ?

2021-06-18 Thread Adrian Godwin
What's this device ? It's more like a CRT than a VFD but is it really a magic eye ? 3 grids (or perhaps 2 grids and a shoot-through anode) seems too complicated for just a lamp. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203331148618 > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: I bit the bullet bought an NL-7094

2021-06-08 Thread Adrian Godwin
Electrophoresis supplies are pretty handy. I got a smallish one by Shandon that limits at up to 400V and 100mA. It worked a treat to fix a nixie I had with cathode poisoning. On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 4:04 PM Bill Notfaded wrote: > It's Paul Andrews I was referring to... I'm not at home right now

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Colorful neons

2021-03-28 Thread Adrian Godwin
Big Clive mentioned these in a youtube video recently. Although the colour is obviously due to the phosphor, he was unsure whether the gas is actually neon. Mercury vapour would seem to be more useful to excite the phosphor and it's hard to see an orange glow (though that may be because of the

Re: [neonixie-l] OT: How to convert composite video into TTL?

2021-04-11 Thread Adrian Godwin
ronics might not work at the > lower NTSC frequency? Or is there a mechanical impediment, like the > windings of the CRT's yoke? Thank you! > > Jens > > On 2021-04-11 7:19 p.m., Adrian Godwin wrote: > > It sounds a bit of a stretch - 15kHz to 19kHz. You could try running the >

Re: [neonixie-l] OT: How to convert composite video into TTL?

2021-04-09 Thread Adrian Godwin
It's easy enough to extract the sync signals, as you've seen. It may not be particularly difficult to modify the TTL input to analog, or to create a TTL level signal if you don't need a grey-scale. On many general-purpose monitors like that they could often be built for either standard - the

Re: [neonixie-l] OT: How to convert composite video into TTL?

2021-04-12 Thread Adrian Godwin
On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 1:34 PM Robert G. Schaffrath < robert.schaffr...@gmail.com> wrote: > locking on). NTSC (Never Twice the Same Color) was a bit of an issue with > needing Color and Hue controls that adjusted the TV's > To complete the trio : SECAM is Something Essential Contrary to the

Re: [neonixie-l] best method for pin cleaning?

2021-04-14 Thread Adrian Godwin
There's a type of nail file - actually a buffer, I think - which has a similar very fine abrasive. There are no visible grains of abrasive and the file appears to be a smooth pink or white (according to the grade) material. They're sometimes used by model rail enthusiasts to clean the track

Re: [neonixie-l] OT: How to convert composite video into TTL?

2021-04-14 Thread Adrian Godwin
ave a > composite input usually (but x/y deflection setup). I am trying to build a > luggable computer (think Osborne I). > > Jens > > On 2021-04-13 9:05 p.m., Adrian Godwin wrote: > > Could you use an old 'scope ? Or would it be too big ? > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 10:57 P

Re: [neonixie-l] OT: How to convert composite video into TTL?

2021-04-13 Thread Adrian Godwin
Could you use an old 'scope ? Or would it be too big ? On Tue, Apr 13, 2021 at 10:57 PM jb-electronics wrote: > Hey all, > > I am looking for a 5"-6" monochrome CRT, preferable green or amber, with > composite video input. If anybody has one for sale, please let me know! > > Best wishes > Jens

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie porn

2021-04-20 Thread Adrian Godwin
The way I understood it, it was their whole stash of them. They wanted to get Fran to do something cool with them rather than keep them in their cupboard. An attitude I can well understand as my piles of coolstuff grow ever bigger (no, I don't have any giant Nixies :) Fran has a big interest in

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie porn

2021-04-20 Thread Adrian Godwin
for it. On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 6:09 PM Nick Andrews wrote: > Standing by for Adrian's "free to a loving home" listing of surplus cool > stuff... > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 11:38 AM Adrian Godwin > wrote: > >> The way I understood it, it was their whole stash of them

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie porn

2021-04-20 Thread Adrian Godwin
On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 12:19 AM Mac Doktor wrote: > > > Yep, yep, yep. The only console video game I ever owned is a real oddball, > Atari Breakout. It's 100% just like the actual arcade game plus some other > modes. I say "is" because I still have it in the original box with all > parts and

Re: [neonixie-l] OT: How to convert composite video into TTL?

2021-04-16 Thread Adrian Godwin
rightness issue as well as on the frequency > modification I would be very grateful! > Best wishes > Jens > > On 2021-04-11 10:41 p.m., Adrian Godwin wrote: > > The line oscillator has to run close to the line frequency and is then > phase-locked to it by the horizontal hold me

Re: [neonixie-l] OT: How to convert composite video into TTL?

2021-04-11 Thread Adrian Godwin
). It looks an awful lot alike NTSC >> to me, can somebody confirm? >> >> Best wishes >> Jens >> >> >> >> >> On 2021-04-10 12:28 a.m., Adrian Godwin wrote: >> >> It's easy enough to extract the sync signals, as you've seen. It may

[neonixie-l] restoring GR-116D

2021-02-16 Thread Adrian Godwin
I have an old Racal-Dana counter in which the most significant digit has areas that are dark. I'm putting this down to cathode poisoning, and want to try restoring it. There are some other peculiarities : that digit usually starts working properly if I touch the anode with a DVM probe (but fails

Re: [neonixie-l] VFD filament drive

2021-08-20 Thread Adrian Godwin
I mean to try this on a device I'm building, but won't an H-bridge driver do ? It will provide an average potential of half the drive voltage giving the ability to place a grid or anode at a small negative potential, and if the filament requirement is less than the easy 5V it can be reduced using

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: new giant tubes from Dalibor

2021-09-04 Thread Adrian Godwin
Is there anybody making VFDs in small quantities ? I'm wondering if it's possible to make the anodes and pins on PCB material and just the grids and cathodes using the techniques from Nixies. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To

Re: [neonixie-l] OT: Epic fives

2021-10-19 Thread Adrian Godwin
It always surprised me that the inverted 2 is used. The cost saving must be tiny, given that only the character itself is re-used (once it's had supports added it's probably unique) and it's only 1 of 10 characters. On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 7:36 AM Marcin Adamski wrote: > nah, they were the

Re: [neonixie-l] Where to get PCBs from, some companies blocked by PayPal and credit card issuers......

2021-12-25 Thread Adrian Godwin
On Sat, Dec 25, 2021 at 2:20 AM ZY wrote: > > Also I recall in the past when they were BatchPCB they would clean the > board edges. They don't do that anymore, meaning I have to individually > dremel and clean the breaking points of each pcb, which is an annoyance to > do safely if you have a

Re: [neonixie-l] The quinn of numitrons IV-13... detronized!

2021-10-31 Thread Adrian Godwin
I'm no photographer, but I have the same or similar problem trying to take photos of LED installations. I get a dim background and overexposed leds, consequently no colours. I think the problem is that the autoexposure adjusts for the average level, which is correct for neither on a high-contrast

Re: [neonixie-l] It lives again. Pic No. 1

2021-07-19 Thread Adrian Godwin
You don't like it laced with waxed cotton ? On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 12:15 PM Joe Croft wrote: > How I love point to point wiring! PCBs can never replace the beauty of > equipment like that! > > -joe > > On Sun, 2021-07-18 at 18:14 -0700, Instrument Resources of America wrote: > > For those of

Re: [neonixie-l] OT: Secret Life of Components

2022-04-01 Thread Adrian Godwin
Hunkin is a delight. The man's like Heath-Robinson or Rube Goldberg. I've been a fan since his cartoon series in The Observer magazine, 'The rudiments of wisdom'. He also has an arcade on a pier in Southwold, Suffolk, and another in Holborn, London starring some of his amazing and amusing

Re: [neonixie-l] Is it just me?

2022-01-25 Thread Adrian Godwin
I assume it's to try to generate a panic to make you buy it rather than scam you for multiple postages. But it often causes me to avoid them because I want more than one, or want to come back for more if I like it. On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 8:56 PM Nick Andrews wrote: > Sellers on Amazon have

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Neons for all!

2022-04-12 Thread Adrian Godwin
I've got a VFD clock to build sometime. It's a multidigit tube with wires at both ends. I thought I'd extend and strengthen the wires to support the glass by soldering them into fine brass tubing as used by modelmakers. It'll probably turn out a mess because of all the different radii but might be

Re: [neonixie-l] Your vote please...

2022-04-24 Thread Adrian Godwin
On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 3:59 PM Adrian Pardini wrote: > > Restore, then turn it into a clock (I'm thinking of something like > Oscistudio) > Seconded. It would be good to have it fully working but you'll never use it. Maybe add a PIR-based auto shutoff as was described here recently to preserve

Re: [neonixie-l] Noon to be dekatron spinner owner

2022-04-25 Thread Adrian Godwin
> > > On Monday, April 25, 2022 at 11:45:22 AM UTC-4 Robert G. Schaffrath wrote: > >> "Magic Eye" tubes are some of my earliest memories of interesting >> displays when I was a child. My maternal grandparents had a Dumont TV >> (didn't everyone LOL?) that used a 6AL7 eye tube for tuning the built

Re: [neonixie-l] What kind of display is this?

2022-05-12 Thread Adrian Godwin
So it's a thermionic character-generator ROM ? On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 4:31 PM Nicholas Stock wrote: > It's a 'monoscope'reads off letters on the end plate... > > http://ed-thelen.org/comp-hist/CK1414.pdf > > On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 8:27 AM jb-electronics < > webmas...@jb-electronics.de>

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon signs

2022-05-12 Thread Adrian Godwin
In the region of 30 dead .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBeSKL9zVro=3s On Thu, May 12, 2022 at 8:04 PM Mac Doktor wrote: > > On May 12, 2022, at 1:17 PM, gregebert wrote: > > > I was really good at processing. 8D > > And you survived to tell about it. Bombarding is pretty dangerous, and

Re: [neonixie-l] Label Makers

2022-06-08 Thread Adrian Godwin
I have used some of the Dymo products (not the old embossing type, though they're popular for their retro charm). They work well if you get the paper-based labels but the plastic labels are poor on all but plastic surfaces. If you fold them in half to mark a wire they unfold and unstick

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Gloat and request

2022-07-25 Thread Adrian Godwin
On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 11:00 PM gregebert wrote: > Nice find. How much of the DMM seems to be working ? > > It seems pretty good except for the batteries and some mechanical parts around the stand. It's reading OK on DCV and ohms, haven't gone through all of it. Someone on eevblog has found me

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Gloat and request

2022-07-24 Thread Adrian Godwin
Thanks, yes it is the right sort of thing (I actually need some with PCB spills on both sides, though that isn't obvious from my photo). Oddly, ebay seems to find similar ones but I can't see anything unique in the name that specifies the form. On Sun, Jul 24, 2022 at 2:36 PM J Forbes wrote: >

Re: [neonixie-l] VFD Filament Current

2022-09-14 Thread Adrian Godwin
Using DC for the filament means there is more accelerating voltage at one end than the other and results in a noticeable difference in brightness. I have wondered if it could be solved without a transformer by driving the filament with a h-bridge. On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 9:02 AM Richard Scales

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 14-digit nixie calculator project with clock function

2022-10-02 Thread Adrian Godwin
I will be interested to see how that works out. I have an old (aka obsolete) but fairly large resin printer, but the materials I've used so far aren't very attractive as outer cases - featureless grey or off-white. FDM is also poor : if you can make a feature of the flaws, as with the shimmer

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 14-digit nixie calculator project with clock function

2022-10-03 Thread Adrian Godwin
I used to work on Canon machines for my father's business in the '70s. They were mostly 12 or 14 digit. I wonder why they used so many digits in an era when they were so expensive ? 8 or maybe 10 seemed to be enough in the LED era. On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 9:39 AM Dave ZL3FJ <2c...@silverbears.nz>

Re: Re: [neonixie-l] Bubble Lights and other Christmas Lights of interest

2022-12-09 Thread Adrian Godwin
Interesting to read about these old-school suppliers. In the UK, the supplier of all things cheap, tacky and seasonal (as well as miscellaneous electrical the rest of the year) was Pifco, with products usually made in Hong Kong. Did they reach other parts of the world or were they just a brit

[neonixie-l] flicker-flame lamps

2022-12-12 Thread Adrian Godwin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyYjnV99wfM Anyone able to answer how these lamps work and why they're so unstable ? The answer by 'Butanik' sounds plausible but IANAP (I am not a physicist). -adrian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l"

Re: [neonixie-l] Any interest in IV-9 numitron clock kit?

2022-11-20 Thread Adrian Godwin
Are they these bubble lights ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTDtyFaAZy8 On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 1:07 PM Mike Mitchell wrote: > >> Terry, I remember those bubble lights at grandparents farm. I had >> started to look into buying some many years ago, but never did... >> >> >> -- You

Re: [neonixie-l] I asked ChatGPT to do a 500 word paper about nixie tubes...

2023-01-24 Thread Adrian Godwin
The examples I've read 'feel' very plagiarised. They read like those web pages put out there to attract google hits and, thereby, accidental advertising views - very much as thoughj ripped from wikipedia or advertising copy. At best, I would think they pull a bunch of paragraphs from different

Re: [neonixie-l] Nixies in Stanley Kubrick's "A Clockwork Orange" (1971)

2023-01-18 Thread Adrian Godwin
I think the smaller one is a Racal https://i.ebayimg.com/thumbs/images/g/nAsAAOSwt7FjBehE/s-l1600.jpg The larger might be an Advance. On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 7:37 PM Audrey wrote: > I noticed these aswell, surely it's HP gear. > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2023, 2:20 PM Jon D. wrote: > >> During the

Fwd: [RacalDana] [neonixie-l] Nixies in Stanley Kubrick's "A Clockwork Orange" (1971)

2023-01-18 Thread Adrian Godwin
nts TF1417, the date is about correct for it to be so. George G6HIG Dover UK On Wednesday, 18 January 2023, 23:35:19 GMT, Adrian Godwin < artgod...@gmail.com> wrote: I think the smaller of these counters is a Racal 835. Does anyone recognise the larger one ? -- Forwarded message --

Re: [RacalDana] [neonixie-l] Nixies in Stanley Kubrick's "A Clockwork Orange" (1971)

2023-01-18 Thread Adrian Godwin
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Any factories in the world still actively mass producing nixie tubes?

2023-02-19 Thread Adrian Godwin
I think Dalibor is more than just a hobby and art producer. He has quite the factory there. But there are no customers left consuming volume quantities. On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 3:08 PM Christian Riise Wagner < c.riisewag...@gmail.com> wrote: > From what I've read a couple of places, it seems

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: AC VFD Filament Driver Question

2023-04-15 Thread Adrian Godwin
I agree 100kHz seems high, but I don't see any downside if you can drive that OK. I also see no need for a filter : the only effect I can imagine is either too low (certainly not at 100k) or possibly a beat frequency with the multiplexing which i'd avoid carefully (or zero beat i.e. in sync, but

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: unpoison a IN-1

2023-04-21 Thread Adrian Godwin
When I wanted a higher voltage supply to refresh some tubes, I found an electrophoresis supply on ebay (Shandon Vokam 400-100). It provides up to 400V at 100mA with voltage/current metering and did a good job for me. I think it cost me about £40. On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 9:19 PM Benoit Tourret

Re: [neonixie-l] Need advice on a new scope...

2023-04-21 Thread Adrian Godwin
I went though a series of digital scopes before I found one I was really happy with. All were second-hand. I had a 16500A, later upgraded to a 16500B. I didn't ever get the LAN option. On the positive side, it's a proper logic analyser with loads of inputs, clock and state triggering : the

Re: [neonixie-l] OT: New 'Secret Life Of Components" series from Tim Hunkin

2023-04-01 Thread Adrian Godwin
I love Tim's work and have been following these recent series avidly. He also runs an amusement arcade on a pier in Southwold, and has some machines in a shop in Holborn, London. His cartoons go back even further, though - I first came across him in a cartoon series in the Observer magazine called

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Neonixie Spam Messages

2023-04-09 Thread Adrian Godwin
There is a suggestion that google are placing more and more stringent requirements on email senders in order to push users onto a small number of providers such as google themselves and make it more difficult to run your own mailservers. I did see a number of mails from mailing lists in the spam

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: EEV E727G - what's that?

2023-02-08 Thread Adrian Godwin
These things are similar tech but for pixels rather than 7-segment : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AclwH64eAkU On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 12:06 AM gregebert wrote: > I'm guessing that CRT-style manufacturing, where phosphor is deposited on > the tube-face, was well-established technology in the

Re: [neonixie-l] Common way to drive VFD displays in 2023?

2023-06-09 Thread Adrian Godwin
reproject/VFD_Clock_IV_27M_27_ESP8266_WiFi_universal_board_Right_Rev_B_c3d57047.html > > пятница, 9 июня 2023 г. в 20:02:31 UTC+3, Adrian Godwin: > >> I stash away parts for projects like that from time to time. Often not >> very well researched and just look suitable, pending me looking more >> carefully into t

Re: [neonixie-l] Common way to drive VFD displays in 2023?

2023-06-09 Thread Adrian Godwin
I found your other project now, https://www.pcbway.com/project/shareproject/W9504101AS1C172_Gerber_PCB_IV_27M_L_Rev_B_a90c6c3b.html So I see that uses the PT6311 too. On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 6:37 PM Adrian Godwin wrote: > Thanks, yes, that's also taking advantage of the double-ended t

Re: [neonixie-l] ScopeClock with teensy4.0

2023-06-10 Thread Adrian Godwin
I think I have an unused teensy 3.6. It may take some time to track it down but I'd happily swap it for a 4.1 if that simplifies things for you. On Sat, Jun 10, 2023 at 5:03 PM David Forbes wrote: > Here is the schematic of the SCTV rev E, which uses the Teensy 4.1. > > > On Sat, Jun 10, 2023

Re: [neonixie-l] Common way to drive VFD displays in 2023?

2023-06-09 Thread Adrian Godwin
I stash away parts for projects like that from time to time. Often not very well researched and just look suitable, pending me looking more carefully into the project. With that in minds, I've got a few IV-27M tubes, which interest me because they have signal wires at both ends, and I'm imagining

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-12-08 Thread Adrian Godwin
Here's another approach, not really a viable retrofit to a nixie unless an extra electrode fixed to the glass might work ? https://youtu.be/y2_dTEXptZQ?t=227 On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 9:12 PM Jeff Walton wrote: > > Here is a closeup of the tube with a UV light source assisting... 395nM > LEDs.

Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie Tic Tac Toe

2024-04-07 Thread Adrian Godwin
Wow. The chessboard is epic. On Sun, Apr 7, 2024 at 10:02 PM Mac Doktor wrote: > https://www.etsy.com/listing/253733048/nixie-oxo-board-diy-kit-round-in-7 > > > Terry Bowman, KA4HJH > "The Mac Doctor" > > https://www.astarcloseup.com > > "By the end of Chuck Statler's 'Rock Videos' of Devo we