Re: caught between a rock and a hard place: new libtool versioning

2006-08-18 Thread Wes Hardaker
> "TA" == Thomas Anders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: TA> It's still the most likely cause. Any volunteers willing to join me fighting TA> 64-bit compiler warnings? I won't get far w/o some old-timer's help. I'm willing to help review what you run into. Each case needs to be considered careful

Re: caught between a rock and a hard place: new libtool versioning

2006-08-18 Thread Thomas Anders
Wes Hardaker wrote: > TA> My vote is still for a gap of 1, reserved for emergencies > TA> (major/security issues). > > I'll even suffer and say a gap of 2 may even make sense. I could probably stand it. > Of course, it's too late for 5.2,5.3 anyway so we're only talking > about new stuff (5.4 an

Re: caught between a rock and a hard place: new libtool versioning

2006-08-18 Thread Wes Hardaker
> "DS" == Dave Shield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DS> libwombat.so.1 DS> libwombat.so.1.3 DS> libwombat.so.1.3.6.1 DS> Isn't that exactly the sort of approach needed for this situation - DS> later libraries on a given patch branch should be "mostly compatible" DS> with earlier ones? DS> But

Re: caught between a rock and a hard place: new libtool versioning

2006-08-18 Thread Wes Hardaker
> "TA" == Thomas Anders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: TA> So let's find a compromise for a realistic position here. How many TA> releases are we even doing in a branch? We've EOLed 5.1.x after 5.1.4, TA> so even if we would have introduced incomatible changes for *each* TA> release in that branc

Re: caught between a rock and a hard place: new libtool versioning

2006-08-18 Thread Thomas Anders
Robert Story wrote: > On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:41:32 +0100 Dave wrote: > DS> I must admit that I'm drawn to Wes' original position - a patches > DS> branch shouldn't include incompatible changes, so ought to continue > DS> with the same library number throughout. > > I agree too. The hardline posit

Re: caught between a rock and a hard place: new libtool versioning

2006-08-18 Thread Thomas Anders
Dave Shield wrote: > I must admit that I'm drawn to Wes' original position - a patches > branch shouldn't include incompatible changes, so ought to continue > with the same library number throughout. > In which case I'd suggest using '54' for the 5.4.x branch. >(Still relatively large, but not

Re: caught between a rock and a hard place: new libtool versioning

2006-08-18 Thread Robert Story
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 14:41:32 +0100 Dave wrote: DS> I must admit that I'm drawn to Wes' original position - a patches DS> branch shouldn't include incompatible changes, so ought to continue DS> with the same library number throughout. I agree too. The hardline position would be that a bug that cou

Re: caught between a rock and a hard place: new libtool versioning

2006-08-18 Thread Dave Shield
On 18/08/06, Robert Story <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So Dave, do you really think we should go this route (eg 540), or were you > just throwing it out to see what the reaction would be? Why Robert, I'm shocked to the deepest core of my being that you could even *begin* to contemplate that I migh

Re: caught between a rock and a hard place: new libtool versioning

2006-08-18 Thread Robert Story
On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 01:02:00 +0200 Thomas wrote: TA> Dave Shield wrote: TA> > On 17/08/06, Robert Story <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: TA> >> And I'm still waiting for comments from Thomas and Dave, and anyone TA> >> else who has an opinion. TA> > TA> > OK - I'm going to be slightly naughty, and propo

Re: caught between a rock and a hard place: new libtool versioning

2006-08-17 Thread Wes Hardaker
> "DS" == Dave Shield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DS> The library version for release 5.4 should be 540. holy cow batman, that number is larger than can fit in a char! One of the reasons I think that +10 is too large is that I'm just not comfortable increasing our library version number on t

Re: caught between a rock and a hard place: new libtool versioning

2006-08-17 Thread Thomas Anders
Dave Shield wrote: > On 17/08/06, Robert Story <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> And I'm still waiting for comments from Thomas and Dave, and anyone >> else who has an opinion. > > OK - I'm going to be slightly naughty, and propose a completely new > numbering scheme. > > The library version for rele

Re: caught between a rock and a hard place: new libtool versioning

2006-08-17 Thread Dave Shield
On 17/08/06, Robert Story <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And I'm still waiting for comments from Thomas and Dave, and anyone > else who has an opinion. OK - I'm going to be slightly naughty, and propose a completely new numbering scheme. The library version for release 5.4 should be 540. That would

Re: caught between a rock and a hard place: new libtool versioning

2006-08-17 Thread Robert Story
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:07:02 -0700 Wes wrote: WH> > "TA" == Thomas Anders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: WH> WH> Robert> So, what I proposed is that we leave a little wiggle room in WH> Robert> the versioning. [...] WH> WH> TA> Since 5.4 is approaching, we finally need to come up with a WH> TA>

Re: caught between a rock and a hard place: new libtool versioning

2006-08-17 Thread Wes Hardaker
> "TA" == Thomas Anders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Robert> So, what I proposed is that we leave a little wiggle room in Robert> the versioning. Can't do much about 5.1 and 5.2 - they are Robert> already sandwiched (well, 5.1 isn't yet, but it's about to Robert> me. More on that in a sec). Bu

Re: caught between a rock and a hard place: new libtool versioning

2006-08-15 Thread Thomas Anders
Wes Hardaker wrote: > Robert> So, what I proposed is that we leave a little wiggle room in > Robert> the versioning. Can't do much about 5.1 and 5.2 - they are > Robert> already sandwiched (well, 5.1 isn't yet, but it's about to > Robert> me. More on that in a sec). But we can make room for 5.3. I

Re: caught between a rock and a hard place: new libtool versioning

2006-02-03 Thread Wes Hardaker
some background material, here are the Robert> comments regarding updating the versions from Makefile.top: Ug. Remind me again who convinced me this was a good thing to do? The libtool versioning system has *so* many problems. multiple branch support does appear to be one of the worst. sigh...

caught between a rock and a hard place: new libtool versioning

2006-02-02 Thread Robert Story
So, we've done the 'right' thing with respect to libtool versioning now, but we seem to have painted ourselves into a corner. Starting with some background material, here are the comments regarding updating the versions from Makefile.top: # use libtool versioning the way they r

Re: libtool versioning

2005-09-12 Thread Wes Hardaker
> On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 17:49:16 +0200, Thomas Anders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > said: Thomas> OK, so 8 is just reserved for 5.1.x "just in case"? I'd be Thomas> fine with that, as opposed to change 5.1.x immediately (which Thomas> also Dave and Jochen voted against). Did we reach consensus Thom

Re: libtool versioning

2005-09-06 Thread Thomas Anders
Robert Story wrote: On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 17:49:16 +0200 Thomas wrote: TA> OK, so 8 is just reserved for 5.1.x "just in case"? I'd be fine with TA> that, as opposed to change 5.1.x immediately (which also Dave and Jochen TA> voted against). Did we reach consensus here? =:o Well, the issue is wh

Re: libtool versioning

2005-09-06 Thread Robert Story
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 17:49:16 +0200 Thomas wrote: TA> OK, so 8 is just reserved for 5.1.x "just in case"? I'd be fine with TA> that, as opposed to change 5.1.x immediately (which also Dave and Jochen TA> voted against). Did we reach consensus here? =:o Well, the issue is whether or not there is a

Re: libtool versioning

2005-09-06 Thread Thomas Anders
Robert Story wrote: On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 23:14:43 +0200 Thomas wrote: TA> Why jump up to c:r:a==9:0:0? Because that's what Wes proposed. Initially, I thought of just going to 6:0:0, since everything currently uses lib*.so.5, but if you look at the previous version, you'll see that 5 is determined

Re: libtool versioning (was: Re: CVS: net-snmp Makefile.top,5.17.2.3)

2005-09-06 Thread Robert Story
On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 23:14:43 +0200 Thomas wrote: TA> Robert Story wrote: TA> > move to libtool recommended versioning scheme TA> TA> Why jump up to c:r:a==9:0:0? Because that's what Wes proposed. Initially, I thought of just going to 6:0:0, since everything currently uses lib*.so.5, but if you lo

libtool versioning (was: Re: CVS: net-snmp Makefile.top,5.17.2.3)

2005-09-05 Thread Thomas Anders
Robert Story wrote: Modified Files: Tag: V5-2-patches Makefile.top Log Message: move to libtool recommended versioning scheme Why jump up to c:r:a==9:0:0? +Thomas -- Thomas Anders (thomas.anders at blue-cable.de) --- SF.Net email