Re: [NetBehaviour] Maecenas

A piece about the "runningness" of code art: http://pallthayer.dyndns.org/stealthiscodeart/index.php?id=13 On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 12:43 PM Anthony Stephenson wrote: > > > > > > nothing > > #nuttin { > font-family: "Arial Black", Gadget, sans-serif; > font-size:

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I just read this about women in Blockchain I get the feeling that simply "blockchain everything" ain't all that… For better #inclusion stats, see new @tech_we_trust & @holochain refering to this article from the spring:

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i just read hito steyerl's chapter in "artists re:thinking the blockchain", about art as an alternative currency, & the potential & problems therein. i recommend it (it's not long, & it's also funny) h : ) On 19.10.2017 17:51, Edward Picot wrote: > Rob, > > As far as I'm concerned your help

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how about all the men on this list take it on to tweet/talk about this, and any other incidents - big or small - that they're aware of? it isn't only women's responsibility to be constantly trying to draw attention to the problem, it's also men's responsibility to stop standing by silently letting

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> On 20 Oct 2017, at 01:04, marc.garrett wrote: > > What a soulless slug this person must be. haha - thanks for that Gretta, if you like we can tweet something humilating via female pressure account, which i am co-running i am sick of letting this stuff slip,

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> Currently writing a PhD at Birkbeck University, London > https://birkbeck.academia.edu/MarcGarrett > Just published: Artists Re:thinking the Blockchain > Eds, Ruth Catlow, Marc Garrett, Nathan Jones, & Sam Skinner > Liverpool Press - http://bit.ly/2x8XlMK > > Sent with ProtonMai

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iverpool Press - http://bit.ly/2x8XlMK Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. > Original Message > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Maecenas > Local Time: 18 October 2017 11:52 AM > UTC Time: 18 October 2017 10:52 > From: gretta.elise.l...@gmail

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The Maecenas thing has nothing to do with making art more accessible. It's about making investing in art more accessible. It's strictly about art as commodity rather than artifact. Speaking of non-existent artwork, the site I posted recently "Steal This CodeArt" celebrates the notion of

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Rob, As far as I'm concerned your help would be greatly appreciated. I've had several looks at Ethereum, but I don't feel at all confident that I could actually implement something and make it work. Your coloured art coins look as if they at least halfway there. Do I gather that you created

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//www.furtherfield.org >> >> Furtherfield Gallery & Commons in the park >> Finsbury Park, London N4 2NQ >> http://www.furtherfield.org/gallery >> Currently writing a PhD at Birkbeck University, London >> https://birkbeck.academia.edu/MarcGarrett >> Just publis

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On Wed, 18 Oct 2017, at 03:52 AM, Gretta Louw wrote: > Had another frustrating (yet, fundamentally unsurprising) incident > since I sent that email in which a museum director matter-of-factly > told me that all of the greatest artists in history were men Gn. > and

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an Jones, & Sam Skinner Liverpool Press - http://bit.ly/2x8XlMK Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. > Original Message > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Maecenas > Local Time: 16 October 2017 2:11 PM > UTC Time: 16 October 2017 13:11 &g

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Yes I can help if anyone is interested. Precedent-wise there's - http://interaccess.org/event/2017/bitcoin-ethereum-and-conceptual-art Or my own - http://robmyers.org/art-coins-coloured/ But neither of these are *nothing*. :-) - Rob. On Sun, 15 Oct 2017, at 10:36 AM, Edward Picot wrote: >

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it means that immaterial / non-existent artworks by women artists are doubly invisible, since so much [visible/material] art by women is anyway invisible in the patriarchal art world ... h : ) (emerging from an intense 4 days at the faces 20th anniversary in graz, where

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Body Art was both male and female, Gina Pane, Collette, Marina Abramovich, etc. but also Vito Acconci, Dennis Oppenheim, Genesis P. Orridge, but also Hannah Wilke, etc. A pretty mixed group. Most of the hard-core conceptualists were male, but there are also Adrian Piper, the Guerilla Girls,

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It’s interesting to me that artists working with immaterial / non-existent artworks in the past are so overwhelmingly male, but I don’t know yet what it means… http://www.modernedition.com/art-articles/absence-in-art/the-invisible-artwork.html

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Great! - I'm not sure where you go with it after that, though. You could offer something non-existent for sale on OpenBazaar easily enough. That would be one option. What appealed to me, though, was the idea of selling shares in a non-existent work of art, in the hope that the shares would

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Not sure this is the best tool https://etherpad.net/p/MarlyStudiedTheQuotations but a place to start On 15/10/17 16:15, ruth catlow wrote: I'd be up for thinking this one through. Let's do it. On 13/10/17 20:34, Edward Picot wrote: Oops! Apologies for posting this twice. I thought the first

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I'd be up for thinking this one through. Let's do it. On 13/10/17 20:34, Edward Picot wrote: Oops! Apologies for posting this twice. I thought the first one hadn't worked. On 13/10/17 19:10, Edward Picot wrote: Can't we do something with this? Couldn't we create a conceptual work of art that

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Oops! Apologies for posting this twice. I thought the first one hadn't worked. On 13/10/17 19:10, Edward Picot wrote: Can't we do something with this? Couldn't we create a conceptual work of art that didn't actually exist at all - we could use some ideas from Curt Cloninger's 'Essay About

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Can't we do something with this? Couldn't we create a conceptual work of art that didn't actually exist at all - perhaps we could use some ideas from Curt Cloninger's 'Essay About Nothing' to represent it - and market fractions of it via the Blockchain?

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Can't we do something with this? Couldn't we create a conceptual work of art that didn't actually exist at all - we could use some ideas from Curt Cloninger's 'Essay About Nothing' to represent it - and market shares in it via the Blockchain? Proceeds to Furtherfield, unless the value went

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Administration tokens sound like a good way of funding art then. ;-) - Rob. On Thu, 12 Oct 2017, at 07:10 AM, Anthony Stephenson wrote: > Everyone knows the real money is in administration ;-) > > On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 7:00 AM, requ...@netbehaviour.org> wrote:>> >> >>> >> >>> I have a

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Everyone knows the real money is in administration ;-) On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 7:00 AM, wrote: > > >>> > >>> I have a question brewing - that I want to run by everyone - about > >>> the value of art and artists now and in the future. > >>> > -- -

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Hi Annie, yes, I am but the problem is that these factors lead to who can make what work, massively impacting the landscape of art that’s available to be seen, made, experienced etc. > On 11. Oct 2017, at 23:01, Annie Abrahams wrote: > > value of art now and in the

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archiving has become an art, i think, blockchain is also an archive, artists can very well (continue) focusing on experimenting with archiving vs ephemerality, loss and chaos will continue. collecting art might also have become an art for that matter, building on loss and chaos.. i think art and

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value of art now and in the future . ? @ Ruth, as soon as art becomes something else than a very personal quest, it becomes something else, an economical, political, social, family asset and then it's interest can only be discussed in that particular frame @Gretta in my opinion you talk

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Ha hah! what do you mean by "value", ruth? value to whom? monetary value, cultural value, nostalgic value, personal value ... ?? value to anyone with a stake in the question and all of the above kinds of value and more (please proliferate) & then, what do you mean by "art" and "artists"

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On Wed, 11 Oct 2017, at 12:58 AM, ruth catlow wrote: > Perfectly put Helen! > Art reframed as a new asset class for fractional ownership ain't my > idea of utopia. """Marly studied the quotations. Pollock was down again. This, she supposed, was the aspect of art that she had the most

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it is all ephemeral, but/and archiving (something, somehow) is still important. but only in moderate proportions. On 11.10.2017 04:42, Rob Myers wrote: > "Look upon my [net]works, ye mighty..." > > Here's a list of dead blockchains. > > >From 2014. > >

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what do you mean by "value", ruth? value to whom? monetary value, cultural value, nostalgic value, personal value ... ?? & then, what do you mean by "art" and "artists" ... h ;) On 11.10.2017 10:51, Gretta Louw wrote: > I’ve been spending a lot of time puzzling over social media lately and >

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I’ve been spending a lot of time puzzling over social media lately and think (horrifyingly) that the value of the latter is increasingly measured in instagram followers - we’re not yet at the point of openly sponsored posts, but indirectly I think it’s already happening… > On 11. Oct 2017,

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Perfectly put Helen! Art reframed as a new asset class for fractional ownership ain't my idea of utopia. I have a question brewing - that I want to run by everyone - about the value of art and artists now and in the future. If anyone can tell me what that question is I'd be very interested

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"Look upon my [net]works, ye mighty..." Here's a list of dead blockchains. >From 2014. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=588413.0 The list has only grown since then. I was recently asked to exhibit a project from two years ago that I couldn't because the service it relied on was no

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On 09/Oct/17 02:22, helen varley jamieson wrote: agree. thank goodness my art is mostly ephemeral & can't be stuck with a financial pin like a dead butterfly ... Hah, thanks for that little reminder! Let's hear it for ephemeral networked art ("you had to be there" was the best reply I ever

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agree. thank goodness my art is mostly ephemeral & can't be stuck with a financial pin like a dead butterfly ... On 07.10.2017 02:29, Alan Sondheim wrote: > > I noticed this - > > "Maecenas touts itself as a blockchain platform that, according to its > creators, will democratise access to fine

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I noticed this - "Maecenas touts itself as a blockchain platform that, according to its creators, will democratise access to fine art. For the first time, the Maecenas website enthuses, technology will allow investors, collectors and owners to exchange shares in paintings and sculptures