Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerationism

Hi Ruth I couldn't agree more. Of course there are areas which for all sorts of reasons M didn't have anything to say about, and there were things about which they were plain wrong. I'm not interested in a cult or religion.My point is about baby and bathwater or, more, about not doing work

Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerationism

Yes Michael, and this is profoundly poetic. All human traditions, values and communities are dissolved in an acid bath of everlasting agitation and uncertainty. What this passage does not describe though is a situation where the wider ecologies of non-human planetary life, upon which we

Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerationist aesthetics

Gretta, These points are very well made, and they chime with the sense of exhaustion and suspicion I have heard expressed by many people (who are not full time intellectuals) in connecting to the bunch of Accelerationist stances, concepts and strategies. I respond very positively to your

Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerationism

Absolutely agree with this Ruth. The imperialist and colonialist attitudes that dominate most contemporary, western thinking are extended, of course in exaggerated form, into thinking about other species, non-human structures etc. The anthropocene is colonialistic. On this, I would highly

Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerate Marx [Was: Re: Accelerationism]

Hi Rob, everyone, yes - I chose that particular passage because it is so clear. It raises the question "What's new?". The historically progressive role of the bourgeoisie in terms of constantly revolutionising production is an absolute given in Marx. Equally given and ubiquitous is his back of

[NetBehaviour] aesthetics examples ... forked from : Re: Accelerationist aesthetics

Ok let's discuss concrete art works, activities etc - let's leave for a moment the theorethical philipoli stuff In this discussion we have until now Ruth's work http://gtp.ruthcatlow.net/ on time: human time, life time, computertime, scientific time, stone time and Rob's examples in his article

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Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerationism

I agree and the problem precisely is acceleration; the biosphere doesn't adapt well to accelerated change, as the plights of sealions, walrus, migrant birds, ocean lives, indicate. If anything, a form of holding-back, learning to listen, listening, is necessary. The fundamental problem I

Re: [NetBehaviour] aesthetics examples ... forked from : Re: Accelerationist aesthetics

Yes Annie, > Ok let's discuss concrete art works, activities etc - let's leave for a moment the theorethical philipoli stuff More examples would be good. > In this discussion we have until now Ruth's work http://gtp.ruthcatlow.net/ on time: human time, life time, computertime, scientific

Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerationism

The crux, again, is this - you say - I doubt the capabilities of our species are any more than any other in the ability to alter the fundamentals of Life. - but from everything I've read and researched, this just isn't true. The disagreement is deep; for one thing I don't feel guilty, but a

Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerationism

Some of the epistemic accelerationists are interested in the work of the philosopher Robert Brandom, who talks about rational, revisable norms. There's been some criticism of that from the point of view of "Risk Society" (Suhail Malik in Collapse Journal VIII). I'm uncomfortable about

Re: [NetBehaviour] My name is [Your Name Here] and I am an Accelerationist

On April 21, 2016 10:27:26 AM PDT, ruth catlow wrote: > >This is less about speed (as distinct from Futurism) than it is about >rates of change. > >The technologies that we use are bound up with with advanced >capitalism. >We watch our political and social

Re: [NetBehaviour] aesthetics examples ... forked from : Re: Accelerationist aesthetics

It just occurred to me that this artwork has already been suggested by Kurt Vonnegut in Rabo Karabekian's "Windsor Blue Number Seventeen". On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 2:18 PM Pall Thayer wrote: > Based on my understanding of Accelerationism, I would think that the ideal >

Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerationism

learning to listen, listening, is necessary. The fundamental problem I think is that we're blind when it comes to ecosystems, energy, micro- biomes, and so forth. The fundamentals of mycology are being rewritten as we discuss, and what's emerging are whole universes of ignorance. Meanwhile we

Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerationism

sounds good to me, the idea of unmastery resonates - thanks - On Sun, 24 Apr 2016, John Hopkins wrote: "21. We declare that only a Promethean politics of maximal mastery over society and its environment is capable of either dealing with global ...snip... it discovers only in the

Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerationism

While the original Nietzschean wish for capital to play itself out, I’m thinking that the (Left) Accelerationism of the past twenty years might have more to do with a flash on the possibility to "Seize the Means of Production". With the popularization of computing and cybernetics, some might have

Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerationism

Can you say more? On Sun, 24 Apr 2016, Pall Thayer wrote: Alan: But isn't that the whole idea behind left-acceleration? On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 9:46 AM Alan Sondheim wrote: I agree and the problem precisely is acceleration; the biosphere doesn't adapt

Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerationism

You know well that the diff. between this and the Perm. for example is this is the result of a particular species running amuck. And with 40-50 % of ocean life scheduled to disappear, etc. as a result of climate, microspherules, etc., the situation is a mess. Yes, there will be something

Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerationism

Hi Pall, Here's the crux of the problem: " whilst we cannot predict the precise result of our actions, we can determine probabilistically likely ranges of outcomes. What must be coupled to such complex systems analysis is a new form of action: improvisatory and capable of executing a design

Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerationism

"21. We declare that only a Promethean politics of maximal mastery over society and its environment is capable of either dealing with global ...snip... it discovers only in the course of its acting, in a politics of geosocial artistry and cunning rationality. A form of abductive

Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerationism

Alan: But isn't that the whole idea behind left-acceleration? On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 9:46 AM Alan Sondheim wrote: > > I agree and the problem precisely is acceleration; the biosphere doesn't > adapt well to accelerated change, as the plights of sealions, walrus, > migrant

Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerate Marx [Was: Re: Accelerationism]

In terms of the economic analysis very little. In terms of the wider "left" regarding that economic analysis as relevant or basing any real political ambition on it, an awful lot. That's what contemporary left accelerationism is a critique of. The project outlined in "Inventing The Future"

Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerationism

>From Manifesto for an Accelerationist Politics ( http://criticallegalthinking.com/2013/05/14/accelerate-manifesto-for-an-accelerationist-politics/ ): "21. We declare that only a Promethean politics of maximal mastery over society and its environment is capable of either dealing with global

Re: [NetBehaviour] aesthetics examples ... forked from : Re: Accelerationist aesthetics

Based on my understanding of Accelerationism, I would think that the ideal "Accelerationist" artwork would be work that you get typical art-investors to pay a shit-load of money for but that is inherently ephemeral so that no portion of the original "investment" can ever grow or even be recouped.

Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerationism

Hi Alan - You know well that the diff. between this and the Perm. for example is this is the result of a particular species running amuck. And with 40-50 % of ocean life scheduled to disappear, etc. as a result of climate, microspherules, etc., the situation is a mess. Yes, there will be

Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerationism

Death to the ludicrous, imperialist notion of 'mastery'! I lean more towards Alan's thoughts on the role/impact of humans but think that this is probably besides the point because, yes, we are all heading towards an end and a new beginning and more ends anyway. I'm the meantime, though, this

Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerationism

I agree with Alan. The human species has evolved to the point where it is no longer adapted to its environment. Humans now seek to adapt the environment to the species. That is not working. If the human species was to become extinct today that would be the best thing that could happen to the

Re: [NetBehaviour] My name is [Your Name Here] and I am an Accelerationist

My name is Bishop Zareh and I don't know much about the topic, but like what I have read so far. I really connected with the 3D Additivist Manifesto and its description of a Junk Body, the body left behind by technology and obsolescence - the biological equivalent of Koolhaus' Junk Space - a

Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerationism

Nope - don’t buy it. Quackery… best Simon Simon Biggs si...@littlepig.org.uk http://www.littlepig.org.uk http://amazon.com/author/simonbiggs http://www.unisanet.unisa.edu.au/staff/homepage.asp?name=simon.biggs http://www.eca.ed.ac.uk/school-of-art/simon-biggs > On 25 Apr 2016, at 03:36,

Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerationism

I worry about dilettantes as much as master, for example people working in bioart potentially releasing organisms into the environment without understanding the chemical flows of biomes and organisms (no one understands all of this today!). One of the things I've learned to respect is the

[NetBehaviour] the wake

the wake http://www.alansondheim.org/twisted8.jpg http://www.alansondheim.org/thewakes.mp3 http://www.alansondheim.org/memento07.jpg the keyboard is limited: one note at a time, no 'return' (i.e. holding down C, then F, then releasing F, doesn't sound C again), but the clack of fingers and

Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerationism

Oh, and let's revive the dilettantes! No more supposed experts, would-be 'masters'. Surely no one who uses this language - even in relation to ostensibly abstract problems or inanimate matter - has read and understood anything about intersectional feminism, digital colonialism and the corrupt

Re: [NetBehaviour] Accelerationism

"The soul of wit, is the very body of untruth." -Aldous Huxley So sharp? So definitive? Is there not room for debate? at least can you e-lab-or-ate? Bz On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 6:15 PM, Simon Biggs wrote: > Nope - don’t buy it. Quackery… > > best > > Simon > > > *Simon